| didrocks | good morning | 05:51 |
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| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 05:54 |
| didrocks | hey pitti | 05:54 |
| seb128 | hey didrocks pitti & desktopers | 06:17 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 ! | 06:18 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 06:19 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:22 |
| willcooke | Ballot spoiling day \o/ | 07:22 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 07:23 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke, happy voting! | 07:24 |
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| Laney | hey hey! | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:05 |
| Laney | GREAT | 08:05 |
| Laney | i just put an X in a box | 08:05 |
| Laney | actually 4 boxes | 08:05 |
| seb128 | X? | 08:06 |
| Laney | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32618577 | 08:06 |
| seb128 | oh | 08:07 |
| seb128 | why 4 boxes? | 08:07 |
| Laney | local elections are happening too | 08:08 |
| Laney | we have 3 people for that | 08:08 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 08:08 |
| Laney | heeeeeeeeeeeey didrocks | 08:08 |
| Laney | how are you seb128 & didrocks? | 08:09 |
| Laney | spring is back today | 08:09 |
| seb128 | Laney, good, watching some UOS sessions I couldn't attend to yesterday | 08:09 |
| Laney | nice | 08:09 |
| seb128 | content-hub & gsettings ones | 08:09 |
| willcooke | Laney, did you watch Charlie Brooker last night? | 08:09 |
| seb128 | weather is changing here | 08:09 |
| Laney | I got a notification on my phone about a content hub demo | 08:09 |
| Laney | no idea why | 08:09 |
| didrocks | Laney: good weather as well here | 08:09 |
| Laney | willcooke: nope, was out eating sushi | 08:10 |
| didrocks | Laney: yeah, seems Ken invited the world to the session :) | 08:10 |
| Laney | worth iplayering? | 08:10 |
| willcooke | Laney, if you like his stuff, yes - certainly is | 08:10 |
| didrocks | didn't yet, will do | 08:10 |
| Laney | I heard there was a thing on BBC4 which was two hours of footage of a canal boat going along | 08:11 |
| * Laney wants to watch this | 08:11 | |
| Laney | http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05t7kc1/all-aboard-the-canal-trip | 08:11 |
| willcooke | Laney, yes! I read it got twice as many viewers than normal at that slot | 08:11 |
| Laney | we went on a canal boat holiday last year | 08:12 |
| Laney | totally on board with this | 08:12 |
| seb128 | Laney, are you working on merging/updating rhythmbox (I think I saw some commits going by) | 08:17 |
| Laney | just got this: | 08:17 |
| Laney | Subject: rhythmbox_3.2.1-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable, unstable | 08:17 |
| Laney | so, yup | 08:17 |
| seb128 | going to do the merge for Ubuntu as well then? | 08:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, in which case please include https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/1452542 | 08:18 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1452542 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox-mozilla should be suggested not recommended" [Undecided,New] | 08:18 |
| seb128 | or maybe we should just stop building that plugin | 08:18 |
| Laney | hmm | 08:20 |
| Laney | probably makes sense | 08:20 |
| Laney | larsu: yo, you around? fancy casting a look over bug | 08:21 |
| Laney | SIGH | 08:21 |
| Laney | bug #1447224 ? | 08:21 |
| ubot5 | bug 1447224 in totem (Ubuntu) "Regression: Unable to select audio or subtitle tracks" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447224 | 08:21 |
| Laney | it's menu related :-) | 08:21 |
| seb128 | could be a Trevinho thing as well | 08:22 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ^ | 08:22 |
| Laney | no | 08:22 |
| Laney | well | 08:22 |
| Laney | I think it is our traditional menubar patch being wrong | 08:22 |
| seb128 | seems simular to bug #1435348 | 08:22 |
| ubot5 | bug 1435348 in appmenu-qt5 (Ubuntu) "qtcreator recently used file/project submenu empty" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1435348 | 08:22 |
| seb128 | but maybe similar bugs in the different toolkit implementations | 08:22 |
| seb128 | or maybe a bug in the indicator... | 08:23 |
| larsu | Laney: cool bug | 08:23 |
| larsu | I'll have a look | 08:24 |
| larsu | also, good morning everyone | 08:24 |
| Laney | hey! | 08:24 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:24 |
| larsu | good, good. Found a *very* nice flat yesterday | 08:24 |
| larsu | hoping we'll get it | 08:24 |
| seb128 | hey larsu! wie gehts? | 08:24 |
| larsu | seb128: great! (see above ;) ) | 08:25 |
| larsu | how are you guzs | 08:25 |
| seb128 | larsu, oh, another nice one? ;-) | 08:25 |
| Laney | awesome | 08:25 |
| larsu | :) | 08:26 |
| Laney | is it in a good location? | 08:27 |
| larsu | Laney: yes! Next to a park in Neukölln. Actually close to where dholbach lives | 08:31 |
| larsu | we don't have it yet though | 08:31 |
| larsu | applied for it last night | 08:31 |
| ochosi | good luck then! :) | 08:32 |
| larsu | thanks | 08:33 |
| ochosi | i presume the park is not hasenheide? | 08:33 |
| seb128 | Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gtk/lp1444174/+merge/256311 is also something you might want to merge in? | 08:33 |
| larsu | oh, isn't that already in? | 08:34 |
| seb128 | larsu, dunno, the mp is not set as merged | 08:34 |
| Laney | not for the SRU, but will be for W | 08:35 |
| larsu | can I W yet or is it too early? | 08:35 |
| Laney | W exists | 08:36 |
| * Laney is a happy W user | 08:36 | |
| * seb128 too | 08:37 | |
| seb128 | not a lot of changes yet though | 08:37 |
| Laney | nope I didn't break all your scrollbars yet | 08:37 |
| didrocks | oh session-migration patches, nice! | 08:38 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:38 |
| larsu | Laney: yes you did (I'm on ww) | 08:38 |
| Laney | oh man ww, all bets are off | 08:38 |
| seb128 | Laney, larsu, speaking of scrollbars, just though about that ... do you know how is unity7/dash using those, and what happens once we update gtk? does the dash get gtk scrollbars for free? does it keep using o-s through some hack? | 08:40 |
| larsu | seb128: it uses its own thing. Doesn't even listen to the gsettings key | 08:42 |
| Laney | I think it probably does it via nux & doesn't use o-s at all | 08:42 |
| Laney | or some other own thing | 08:42 |
| Laney | (still works here) | 08:42 |
| seb128 | k, good | 08:42 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's a nux widget | 08:43 |
| seb128 | I was unsure if they would d/l open, reuse some of the components | 08:44 |
| seb128 | if not, good | 08:44 |
| Laney | Trevinho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/1430059 is similar to the above and is for you (you got assigned), please look | 08:44 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1430059 in lyx (Ubuntu) "LyX menu is not updated by indicator-appmenu in mode unity-all-menus" [High,Confirmed] | 08:44 |
| seb128 | dlopen even | 08:44 |
| didrocks | the assets are in /usr/share/nux/4.0/UITextures/ | 08:44 |
| * didrocks patched that in a past life :p | 08:44 | |
| seb128 | we should perhaps change that implementation to look like the new GTK one? | 08:44 |
| Laney | you nuxpert | 08:44 |
| seb128 | or is GTK going to look similar to o-s? | 08:45 |
| didrocks | Laney: unfortunately, I know too much about nux I would ever have like :p | 08:45 |
| Laney | hopefully we'll theme it to look similar | 08:45 |
| didrocks | seb128: changing assets is fine and easy (just generate tga files), changing size and behavior… I would say we shouldn't as everything is absolutely positionned | 08:46 |
| larsu | Laney, seb128: we can, but we won't get the out-of-window experience | 08:46 |
| didrocks | and so, we can enter a world of pain, knowing that nux isn't going to be the way forward | 08:46 |
| Laney | sure | 08:47 |
| seb128 | right, at the same time we can't degrade the unity7 user experience too much | 08:47 |
| seb128 | it's still going to be the dev desktop for the next LTS | 08:47 |
| larsu | indeed. I'll have a patch for you guys to look at soon | 08:48 |
| * larsu is still struggling with some transparency issues | 08:48 | |
| didrocks | if we found someone working on it, good, just be aware that it's not going to be trivial and we can get a bunch of regressions which is degrading the user experience | 08:49 |
| didrocks | so don't count on that being just a week hack | 08:50 |
| seb128 | didrocks, don't underestimate Trevinho :-) | 08:50 |
| seb128 | he knows that code, he wrote it, I'm sure he could do tweaks in a week | 08:51 |
| didrocks | let's see :) | 08:53 |
| didrocks | (I still think we degrade more the user experience by not having the same scrollbar in our default set of apps) | 08:54 |
| seb128 | degrade requires to start from a situation and lower it | 08:55 |
| seb128 | which we don't have today | 08:55 |
| seb128 | so we don't really degrade anything on the apps front | 08:56 |
| didrocks | well, the o-s in the dash doesn't look like the one in our apps already | 08:56 |
| didrocks | so how is it degrading? | 08:56 |
| seb128 | the thumb looks identical to me | 08:56 |
| seb128 | so identical that I though they might be dlopening o-s to load the widget | 08:56 |
| didrocks | ah, you mean the thumb | 08:56 |
| seb128 | yes | 08:56 |
| didrocks | not the scrollbar itself | 08:56 |
| seb128 | right | 08:56 |
| didrocks | so, I don't know how the thumb is done | 08:57 |
| didrocks | it can be a dlopen | 08:57 |
| * didrocks was talking about the scrollbar only | 08:57 | |
| seb128 | I see | 08:59 |
| seb128 | I was speaking about the interactive part of the scrollbars | 08:59 |
| seb128 | I don't find it shocking that the scrollbar/position looks different from apps since the dash looks different from an app | 08:59 |
| seb128 | they have different visual identities | 08:59 |
| seb128 | it would be weird to have a grey gtk scrollbars in a transparent dash | 09:00 |
| didrocks | I find the thumb out of place though with this dash visual identity | 09:00 |
| didrocks | you have a grey thumb on top of it (I never use the mouse to interact with it, so didn't notice) | 09:00 |
| seb128 | yeah | 09:04 |
| didrocks | unity-shared/PlacesOverlayVScrollBar.cpp | 09:06 |
| didrocks | they are redrawn it seems | 09:06 |
| seb128 | cool | 09:08 |
| Trevinho | Laney: yeah, I saw that bug. | 09:17 |
| Laney | ok, as long as it is in the pile ;-) | 09:18 |
| Trevinho | seb128,Laney about that gtk build fix I actually proposed this months ago upstream (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744086) but Ryan never approved it (and neither larsu did) :°( | 09:19 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 744086 in .General "configure.ac: Pull gio-unix dependency for all unix builds" [Normal,New] | 09:19 |
| didrocks | WHAT | 09:22 |
| didrocks | pep8 is passing there | 09:22 |
| didrocks | not in utopic… | 09:22 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, sorry about that | 09:22 |
| larsu | Trevinho: !windows == unix? | 09:22 |
| larsu | not sure we want that | 09:22 |
| Trevinho | larsu: in that context it is | 09:22 |
| Trevinho | larsu: considering that gtk-launch is working in all !unix stuff | 09:22 |
| Trevinho | err, unix | 09:23 |
| larsu | Trevinho: gtk-launch doesn't work on windows, does it? | 09:24 |
| Trevinho | larsu: no, it doesn't... but it's build everywhere else and it does require gio-unix | 09:26 |
| Trevinho | built | 09:26 |
| larsu | Trevinho: it does? Makefile.am doesn't mention that and gtk-launch.c has a lot of #ifdef G_OS_UNIX | 09:30 |
| larsu | I haven't looked in detail, but it looks like I can build it without | 09:30 |
| Trevinho | larsu: it can't built without gio-unix on unix... | 09:31 |
| larsu | Trevinho: oh right, it doesn't do HAVE_GIO or whatever | 09:33 |
| larsu | meh, fine by me | 09:33 |
| larsu | would get a 2nd opinion from mclasen though | 09:33 |
| Trevinho | larsu: I asked on #gtk+ some times, no feedback | 09:34 |
| larsu | Trevinho: I'll put up a review so that we generate some bug mail ;) | 09:35 |
| Trevinho | :) | 09:36 |
| Trevinho | thanks | 09:36 |
| Trevinho | larsu: not sure it merges cleanly right now btw... it has a couple fo months | 09:36 |
| larsu | Trevinho: it applies, but is missing the have_gio_unix line from the mir backend which was added later. Commenting on that | 09:37 |
| * Trevinho knew that he had to push to master directly :P | 09:41 | |
| larsu | Trevinho: err don't. | 09:48 |
| larsu | ;) | 09:48 |
| Trevinho | larsu: no, I'm a good guy | 09:48 |
| Trevinho | larsu: how I update a patch with git bz? | 09:50 |
| larsu | Trevinho: git bz apply <bug nr>; HACK; git commit --amend; git bz attach -e <bug nr> HEAD | 09:51 |
| larsu | it'll mark the old patch as obsolete if it has the same title | 09:51 |
| larsu | but drops you in an editor to make those kinds of changes | 09:51 |
| larsu | bbiab | 09:51 |
| Trevinho | larsu: yeah, I only missed the last command (I did the first two).. | 09:51 |
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| willcooke | qengho, do you know about this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta | 13:13 |
| willcooke | what's the relationship with our ppa, if any? | 13:13 |
| willcooke | I also read on the ML that "Widevine loading has been fixed so you can play Netflix on Cr." | 13:14 |
| willcooke | is that real?! | 13:14 |
| larsu | don't let desrt know this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11009497/ | 13:26 |
| didrocks | larsu: didn't know we had such a service, nice! | 13:27 |
| larsu | didrocks: for the timezone completion thing in u-c-c | 13:27 |
| larsu | didrocks: it's pretty shitty though | 13:28 |
| didrocks | ah? | 13:28 |
| larsu | "Toront" gives 0 results | 13:28 |
| jcastro | hi guys, what package/library handles copy and paste buffers for X? I believe I'm stuck with an out of date package due to PPA adventures and my copy and paste behavior is busted. | 13:28 |
| larsu | didrocks: "Toronto" 12 or so | 13:28 |
| didrocks | larsu: how dare you partially name Toronto! It's all or nothing :p | 13:29 |
| didrocks | what? search completion? | 13:29 |
| didrocks | ;) | 13:29 |
| larsu | ya | 13:29 |
| larsu | so, kind of important to get close names correct | 13:29 |
| larsu | s/close/partially typed/ | 13:29 |
| seb128 | jcastro, unsure, maybe tjaalton can help you | 13:52 |
| EphraimMB | What does unity 8 look like now for the desktop? | 14:00 |
| larsu | seb128: do you have the bug number for the datetime completion bug? | 14:03 |
| * larsu cannot find it | 14:03 | |
| larsu | or Laney? | 14:04 |
| larsu | I guess we used bug #1440157 for that? (it's slightly different) | 14:05 |
| ubot5 | bug 1440157 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "WARNING **: Could not connect to geoname lookup server: Operation was cancelled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440157 | 14:05 |
| seb128 | larsu, yeah, that one | 14:05 |
| Laney | sorry I didn't see it | 14:06 |
| Laney | looks right | 14:06 |
| larsu | ok. Who wants to review? :P | 14:06 |
| larsu | finally got around to finish the patch | 14:07 |
| larsu | also found the actual issue | 14:07 |
| Laney | what component is it in? | 14:08 |
| larsu | timezonemap | 14:08 |
| larsu | creating the mr right now | 14:08 |
| Laney | interesting | 14:08 |
| Laney | thought it was a soup bug | 14:08 |
| larsu | that's what I thought, but turns out it had a good reason for keeping those connections open: | 14:09 |
| Laney | k, i'll look soon, have some other MPs from the redhat guy to review too | 14:10 |
| larsu | the input stream was never closed | 14:10 |
| Laney | need to arrange to get mail for this | 14:10 |
| larsu | Laney: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/timezonemap/lp1440157/+merge/258506 | 14:11 |
| Laney | nooooooooooooo | 14:11 |
| Laney | it's libtimezonemap | 14:11 |
| larsu | why no? | 14:11 |
| Laney | or is it the other one? | 14:11 |
| Laney | wait | 14:11 |
| Laney | there's a bad one and a good one | 14:11 |
| larsu | well this is the one that u-c-c links against... | 14:12 |
| Laney | ah no this is the good one | 14:12 |
| larsu | (I think) | 14:12 |
| Laney | one's a fork of the other one or something | 14:12 |
| larsu | ugh | 14:12 |
| larsu | glad we have our processes down :) | 14:12 |
| Laney | asked for ev to delete it | 14:13 |
| larsu | thanks | 14:13 |
| Laney | will you file a bug on the geoname server about the completion being dodgy? | 14:15 |
| larsu | sure. Do you know the name of the component? | 14:15 |
| larsu | there's already bug #1197969 | 14:16 |
| ubot5 | bug 1197969 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Date and Time config missing cities" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1197969 | 14:16 |
| Laney | i think it's https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames | 14:16 |
| seb128 | it is | 14:16 |
| larsu | ah thanks, I'll add that to the bug report | 14:16 |
| seb128 | there are a few related bugs | 14:16 |
| Laney | not sure if anyone works on this actively | 14:16 |
| Laney | so if we want it fixed ... | 14:16 |
| seb128 | e.g https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames/+bug/769166 | 14:17 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 769166 in Baltix "Geonames location search results aren't accurate enough" [Undecided,New] | 14:17 |
| seb128 | or bug #1043843 | 14:17 |
| ubot5 | bug 1043843 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "When a location name is typed in the text box on 'Where are you page', drop down list doesn't always show right location names" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043843 | 14:17 |
| qengho | Hi all. May I have a sponsor to upload chromium-browser to wily from this PPA? https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage | 15:11 |
| willcooke | qengho, hey - did you see my question from earlier? Up there ^^ :) | 15:19 |
| qengho | Er, I heard a beep but didnt see the cause. | 15:22 |
| willcooke | forgive copy & paste... | 15:23 |
| willcooke | <willcooke> qengho, do you know about this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta | 15:23 |
| willcooke | <willcooke> what's the relationship with our ppa, if any? | 15:23 |
| willcooke | <willcooke> I also read on the ML that "Widevine loading has been fixed so you can play Netflix on Cr." | 15:23 |
| willcooke | * xclaesse_ (~xclaesse@modemcable154.55-37-24.static.videotron.ca) has joined #ubuntu-desktop | 15:23 |
| willcooke | <willcooke> is that real?! | 15:23 |
| qengho | willcooke: oh, saikrishna. Yeah, a community member. Does great stuff. There's no strong relationship between his PPA and mine. We trade ideas, except he doesn't have to care about legalities I do. :) | 15:24 |
| willcooke | gotya | 15:24 |
| willcooke | So the widevine stuff is not going to meet our Cr any time soon I expect | 15:24 |
| qengho | willcooke: Right, we probably won't ever be able to distribute widevine without Legal Dept working out the details. | 15:26 |
| willcooke | thx | 15:26 |
| seb128 | qengho, the upload is a pocket copy right? | 15:26 |
| qengho | seb128: yes. | 15:26 |
| seb128 | qengho, I can do that | 15:26 |
| qengho | seb128: thanks! | 15:27 |
| seb128 | qengho, yw! | 15:27 |
| seb128 | qengho, 42.0.2311.135-1ubuntu1.1160 is correct right? | 15:28 |
| qengho | seb128: Yes. Verified. | 15:29 |
| seb128 | thanks | 15:30 |
| seb128 | copied | 15:30 |
| seb128 | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/42.0.2311.135-1ubuntu1.1160 | 15:30 |
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| willcooke | quittin' time | 19:45 |
| willcooke | brutal few days. So day off tomorrow. | 19:45 |
| willcooke | ta ta | 19:45 |
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