didrocksgood morning05:51
pittibonjour didrocks05:54
didrockshey pitti05:54
seb128hey didrocks pitti & desktopers06:17
pittibonjour seb128 !06:18
didrocksre seb12806:19
willcookemorning all07:22
willcookeBallot spoiling day \o/07:22
seb128hey willcooke07:23
didrockshey willcooke, happy voting!07:24
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Laneyhey hey!08:04
seb128hey Laney, how are you?08:05
Laneyi just put an X in a box08:05
Laneyactually 4 boxes08:05
seb128why 4 boxes?08:07
Laneylocal elections are happening too08:08
Laneywe have 3 people for that08:08
didrocksmorning Laney08:08
Laneyheeeeeeeeeeeey didrocks08:08
Laneyhow are you seb128 & didrocks?08:09
Laneyspring is back today08:09
seb128Laney, good, watching some UOS sessions I couldn't attend to yesterday08:09
seb128content-hub & gsettings ones08:09
willcookeLaney, did you watch Charlie Brooker last night?08:09
seb128weather is changing here08:09
LaneyI got a notification on my phone about a content hub demo08:09
Laneyno idea why08:09
didrocksLaney: good weather as well here08:09
Laneywillcooke: nope, was out eating sushi08:10
didrocksLaney: yeah, seems Ken invited the world to the session :)08:10
Laneyworth iplayering?08:10
willcookeLaney, if you like his stuff, yes - certainly is08:10
didrocksdidn't yet, will do08:10
LaneyI heard there was a thing on BBC4 which was two hours of footage of a canal boat going along08:11
* Laney wants to watch this08:11
willcookeLaney, yes!  I read it got twice as many viewers than normal at that slot08:11
Laneywe went on a canal boat holiday last year08:12
Laneytotally on board with this08:12
seb128Laney, are you working on merging/updating rhythmbox (I think I saw some commits going by)08:17
Laneyjust got this:08:17
LaneySubject: rhythmbox_3.2.1-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable, unstable08:17
Laneyso, yup08:17
seb128going to do the merge for Ubuntu as well then?08:17
seb128Laney, in which case please include https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/145254208:18
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1452542 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox-mozilla should be suggested not recommended" [Undecided,New]08:18
seb128or maybe we should just stop building that plugin08:18
Laneyprobably makes sense08:20
Laneylarsu: yo, you around? fancy casting a look over bug08:21
Laneybug #1447224 ?08:21
ubot5bug 1447224 in totem (Ubuntu) "Regression: Unable to select audio or subtitle tracks" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144722408:21
Laneyit's menu related :-)08:21
seb128could be a Trevinho thing as well08:22
seb128Trevinho, ^08:22
LaneyI think it is our traditional menubar patch being wrong08:22
seb128seems simular to bug #143534808:22
ubot5bug 1435348 in appmenu-qt5 (Ubuntu) "qtcreator recently used file/project submenu empty" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143534808:22
seb128but maybe similar bugs in the different toolkit implementations08:22
seb128or maybe a bug in the indicator...08:23
larsuLaney: cool bug08:23
larsuI'll have a look08:24
larsualso, good morning everyone08:24
Laneyhow's it going?08:24
larsugood, good. Found a *very* nice flat yesterday08:24
larsuhoping we'll get it08:24
seb128hey larsu! wie gehts?08:24
larsuseb128: great! (see above ;) )08:25
larsuhow are you guzs08:25
seb128larsu, oh, another nice one? ;-)08:25
Laneyis it in a good location?08:27
larsuLaney: yes! Next to a park in Neukölln. Actually close to where dholbach lives08:31
larsuwe don't have it yet though08:31
larsuapplied for it last night08:31
ochosigood luck then! :)08:32
ochosii presume the park is not hasenheide?08:33
seb128Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gtk/lp1444174/+merge/256311 is also something you might want to merge in?08:33
larsuoh, isn't that already in?08:34
seb128larsu, dunno, the mp is not set as merged08:34
Laneynot for the SRU, but will be for W08:35
larsucan I W yet or is it too early?08:35
LaneyW exists08:36
* Laney is a happy W user08:36
* seb128 too08:37
seb128not a lot of changes yet though08:37
Laneynope I didn't break all your scrollbars yet08:37
didrocksoh session-migration patches, nice!08:38
larsuLaney: yes you did (I'm on ww)08:38
Laneyoh man ww, all bets are off08:38
seb128Laney, larsu, speaking of scrollbars, just though about that ... do you know how is unity7/dash using those, and what happens once we update gtk? does the dash get gtk scrollbars for free? does it keep using o-s through some hack?08:40
larsuseb128: it uses its own thing. Doesn't even listen to the gsettings key08:42
LaneyI think it probably does it via nux & doesn't use o-s at all08:42
Laneyor some other own thing08:42
Laney(still works here)08:42
seb128k, good08:42
didrocksyeah, it's a nux widget08:43
seb128I was unsure if they would d/l open, reuse some of the components08:44
seb128if not, good08:44
LaneyTrevinho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/1430059 is similar to the above and is for you (you got assigned), please look08:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1430059 in lyx (Ubuntu) "LyX menu is not updated by indicator-appmenu in mode unity-all-menus" [High,Confirmed]08:44
seb128dlopen even08:44
didrocksthe assets are in /usr/share/nux/4.0/UITextures/08:44
* didrocks patched that in a past life :p08:44
seb128we should perhaps change that implementation to look like the new GTK one?08:44
Laneyyou nuxpert08:44
seb128or is GTK going to look similar to o-s?08:45
didrocksLaney: unfortunately, I know too much about nux I would ever have like :p08:45
Laneyhopefully we'll theme it to look similar08:45
didrocksseb128: changing assets is fine and easy (just generate tga files), changing size and behavior… I would say we shouldn't as everything is absolutely positionned08:46
larsuLaney, seb128: we can, but we won't get the out-of-window experience08:46
didrocksand so, we can enter a world of pain, knowing that nux isn't going to be the way forward08:46
seb128right, at the same time we can't degrade the unity7 user experience too much08:47
seb128it's still going to be the dev desktop for the next LTS08:47
larsuindeed. I'll have a patch for you guys to look at soon08:48
* larsu is still struggling with some transparency issues08:48
didrocksif we found someone working on it, good, just be aware that it's not going to be trivial and we can get a bunch of regressions which is degrading the user experience08:49
didrocksso don't count on that being just a week hack08:50
seb128didrocks, don't underestimate Trevinho :-)08:50
seb128he knows that code, he wrote it, I'm sure he could do tweaks in a week08:51
didrockslet's see :)08:53
didrocks(I still think we degrade more the user experience by not having the same scrollbar in our default set of apps)08:54
seb128degrade requires to start from a situation and lower it08:55
seb128which we don't have today08:55
seb128so we don't really degrade anything on the apps front08:56
didrockswell, the o-s in the dash doesn't look like the one in our apps already08:56
didrocksso how is it degrading?08:56
seb128the thumb looks identical to me08:56
seb128so identical that I though they might be dlopening o-s to load the widget08:56
didrocksah, you mean the thumb08:56
didrocksnot the scrollbar itself08:56
didrocksso, I don't know how the thumb is done08:57
didrocksit can be a dlopen08:57
* didrocks was talking about the scrollbar only08:57
seb128I see08:59
seb128I was speaking about the interactive part of the scrollbars08:59
seb128I don't find it shocking that the scrollbar/position looks different from apps since the dash looks different from an app08:59
seb128they have different visual identities08:59
seb128it would be weird to have a grey gtk scrollbars in a transparent dash09:00
didrocksI find the thumb out of place though with this dash visual identity09:00
didrocksyou have a grey thumb on top of it (I never use the mouse to interact with it, so didn't notice)09:00
didrocksthey are redrawn it seems09:06
TrevinhoLaney: yeah, I saw that bug.09:17
Laneyok, as long as it is in the pile ;-)09:18
Trevinhoseb128,Laney about that gtk build fix I actually proposed this months ago upstream (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744086) but Ryan never approved it (and neither larsu did) :°(09:19
ubot5Gnome bug 744086 in .General "configure.ac: Pull gio-unix dependency for all unix builds" [Normal,New]09:19
didrockspep8 is passing there09:22
didrocksnot in utopic…09:22
seb128Trevinho, sorry about that09:22
larsuTrevinho: !windows == unix?09:22
larsunot sure we want that09:22
Trevinholarsu: in that context it is09:22
Trevinholarsu: considering that gtk-launch is working in all !unix stuff09:22
Trevinhoerr, unix09:23
larsuTrevinho: gtk-launch doesn't work on windows, does it?09:24
Trevinholarsu: no, it doesn't... but it's build everywhere else and it does require gio-unix09:26
larsuTrevinho: it does? Makefile.am doesn't mention that and gtk-launch.c has a lot of #ifdef G_OS_UNIX09:30
larsuI haven't looked in detail, but it looks like I can build it without09:30
Trevinholarsu: it can't built without gio-unix on unix...09:31
larsuTrevinho: oh right, it doesn't do HAVE_GIO or whatever09:33
larsumeh, fine by me09:33
larsuwould get a 2nd opinion from mclasen though09:33
Trevinholarsu: I asked on #gtk+ some times, no feedback09:34
larsuTrevinho: I'll put up a review so that we generate some bug mail ;)09:35
Trevinholarsu: not sure it merges cleanly right now btw... it has a couple fo months09:36
larsuTrevinho: it applies, but is missing the have_gio_unix line from the mir backend which was added later. Commenting on that09:37
* Trevinho knew that he had to push to master directly :P09:41
larsuTrevinho: err don't.09:48
Trevinholarsu: no, I'm a good guy09:48
Trevinholarsu: how I update a patch with git bz?09:50
larsuTrevinho: git bz apply <bug nr>; HACK; git commit --amend; git bz attach -e <bug nr> HEAD09:51
larsuit'll mark the old patch as obsolete if it has the same title09:51
larsubut drops you in an editor to make those kinds of changes09:51
Trevinholarsu: yeah, I only missed the last command (I did the first two)..09:51
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willcookeqengho, do you know about this ppa:  https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta13:13
willcookewhat's the relationship with our ppa, if any?13:13
willcookeI also read on the ML that "Widevine loading has been fixed so you can play Netflix on Cr."13:14
willcookeis that real?!13:14
larsudon't let desrt know this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11009497/13:26
didrockslarsu: didn't know we had such a service, nice!13:27
larsudidrocks: for the timezone completion thing in u-c-c13:27
larsudidrocks: it's pretty shitty though13:28
larsu"Toront" gives 0 results13:28
jcastrohi guys, what package/library handles copy and paste buffers for X? I believe I'm stuck with an out of date package due to PPA adventures and my copy and paste behavior is busted.13:28
larsudidrocks: "Toronto" 12 or so13:28
didrockslarsu: how dare you partially name Toronto! It's all or nothing :p13:29
didrockswhat? search completion?13:29
larsuso, kind of important to get close names correct13:29
larsus/close/partially typed/13:29
seb128jcastro, unsure, maybe tjaalton can help you13:52
EphraimMBWhat does unity 8 look like now for the desktop?14:00
larsuseb128: do you have the bug number for the datetime completion bug?14:03
* larsu cannot find it14:03
larsuor Laney?14:04
larsuI guess we used bug #1440157 for that? (it's slightly different)14:05
ubot5bug 1440157 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "WARNING **: Could not connect to geoname lookup server: Operation was cancelled" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144015714:05
seb128larsu, yeah, that one14:05
Laneysorry I didn't see it14:06
Laneylooks right14:06
larsuok. Who wants to review? :P14:06
larsufinally got around to finish the patch14:07
larsualso found the actual issue14:07
Laneywhat component is it in?14:08
larsucreating the mr right now14:08
Laneythought it was a soup bug14:08
larsuthat's what I thought, but turns out it had a good reason for keeping those connections open:14:09
Laneyk, i'll look soon, have some other MPs from the redhat guy to review too14:10
larsuthe input stream was never closed14:10
Laneyneed to arrange to get mail for this14:10
larsuLaney: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/timezonemap/lp1440157/+merge/25850614:11
Laneyit's libtimezonemap14:11
larsuwhy no?14:11
Laneyor is it the other one?14:11
Laneythere's a bad one and a good one14:11
larsuwell this is the one that u-c-c links against...14:12
Laneyah no this is the good one14:12
larsu(I think)14:12
Laneyone's a fork of the other one or something14:12
larsuglad we have our processes down :)14:12
Laneyasked for ev to delete it14:13
Laneywill you file a bug on the geoname server about the completion being dodgy?14:15
larsusure. Do you know the name of the component?14:15
larsuthere's already bug #119796914:16
ubot5bug 1197969 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Date and Time config missing cities" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/119796914:16
Laneyi think it's https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames14:16
seb128it is14:16
larsuah thanks, I'll add that to the bug report14:16
seb128there are a few related bugs14:16
Laneynot sure if anyone works on this actively14:16
Laneyso if we want it fixed ...14:16
seb128e.g https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames/+bug/76916614:17
ubot5Ubuntu bug 769166 in Baltix "Geonames location search results aren't accurate enough" [Undecided,New]14:17
seb128or bug #104384314:17
ubot5bug 1043843 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "When a location name is typed in the text box on 'Where are you page', drop down list doesn't always show right location names" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104384314:17
qenghoHi all. May I have a sponsor to upload chromium-browser to wily from this PPA? https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage15:11
willcookeqengho, hey - did you see my question from earlier?  Up there ^^ :)15:19
qenghoEr, I heard a beep but didnt see the cause.15:22
willcookeforgive copy & paste...15:23
willcooke<willcooke> qengho, do you know about this ppa:  https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta15:23
willcooke<willcooke> what's the relationship with our ppa, if any?15:23
willcooke<willcooke> I also read on the ML that "Widevine loading has been fixed so you can play Netflix on Cr."15:23
willcooke* xclaesse_ (~xclaesse@modemcable154.55-37-24.static.videotron.ca) has joined #ubuntu-desktop15:23
willcooke<willcooke> is that real?!15:23
qenghowillcooke: oh, saikrishna. Yeah, a community member. Does great stuff. There's no strong relationship between his PPA and mine. We trade ideas, except he doesn't have to care about legalities I do. :)15:24
willcookeSo the widevine stuff is not going to meet our Cr any time soon I expect15:24
qenghowillcooke: Right, we probably won't ever be able to distribute widevine without Legal Dept working out the details.15:26
seb128qengho, the upload is a pocket copy right?15:26
qenghoseb128: yes.15:26
seb128qengho, I can do that15:26
qenghoseb128: thanks!15:27
seb128qengho, yw!15:27
seb128qengho, 42.0.2311.135-1ubuntu1.1160 is correct right?15:28
qenghoseb128: Yes. Verified.15:29
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willcookequittin' time19:45
willcookebrutal few days.  So day off tomorrow.19:45
willcooketa ta19:45

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