[05:51] <didrocks> good morning
[05:54] <pitti> bonjour didrocks
[05:54] <didrocks> hey pitti
[06:17] <seb128> hey didrocks pitti & desktopers
[06:18] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[06:19] <didrocks> re seb128
[07:22] <willcooke> morning all
[07:22] <willcooke> Ballot spoiling day \o/
[07:23] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:24] <didrocks> hey willcooke, happy voting!
[08:04] <Laney> hey hey!
[08:05] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:05] <Laney> GREAT
[08:05] <Laney> i just put an X in a box
[08:05] <Laney> actually 4 boxes
[08:06] <seb128> X?
[08:06] <Laney> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32618577
[08:07] <seb128> oh
[08:07] <seb128> why 4 boxes?
[08:08] <Laney> local elections are happening too
[08:08] <Laney> we have 3 people for that
[08:08] <didrocks> morning Laney
[08:08] <Laney> heeeeeeeeeeeey didrocks
[08:09] <Laney> how are you seb128 & didrocks?
[08:09] <Laney> spring is back today
[08:09] <seb128> Laney, good, watching some UOS sessions I couldn't attend to yesterday
[08:09] <Laney> nice
[08:09] <seb128> content-hub & gsettings ones
[08:09] <willcooke> Laney, did you watch Charlie Brooker last night?
[08:09] <seb128> weather is changing here
[08:09] <Laney> I got a notification on my phone about a content hub demo
[08:09] <Laney> no idea why
[08:09] <didrocks> Laney: good weather as well here
[08:10] <Laney> willcooke: nope, was out eating sushi
[08:10] <didrocks> Laney: yeah, seems Ken invited the world to the session :)
[08:10] <Laney> worth iplayering?
[08:10] <willcooke> Laney, if you like his stuff, yes - certainly is
[08:10] <didrocks> didn't yet, will do
[08:11] <Laney> I heard there was a thing on BBC4 which was two hours of footage of a canal boat going along
[08:11]  * Laney wants to watch this
[08:11] <Laney> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b05t7kc1/all-aboard-the-canal-trip
[08:11] <willcooke> Laney, yes!  I read it got twice as many viewers than normal at that slot
[08:12] <Laney> we went on a canal boat holiday last year
[08:12] <Laney> totally on board with this
[08:17] <seb128> Laney, are you working on merging/updating rhythmbox (I think I saw some commits going by)
[08:17] <Laney> just got this:
[08:17] <Laney> Subject: rhythmbox_3.2.1-1_amd64.changes ACCEPTED into unstable, unstable
[08:17] <Laney> so, yup
[08:17] <seb128> going to do the merge for Ubuntu as well then?
[08:18] <seb128> Laney, in which case please include https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/1452542
[08:18] <seb128> or maybe we should just stop building that plugin
[08:20] <Laney> hmm
[08:20] <Laney> probably makes sense
[08:21] <Laney> larsu: yo, you around? fancy casting a look over bug
[08:21] <Laney> SIGH
[08:21] <Laney> bug #1447224 ?
[08:21] <Laney> it's menu related :-)
[08:22] <seb128> could be a Trevinho thing as well
[08:22] <seb128> Trevinho, ^
[08:22] <Laney> no
[08:22] <Laney> well
[08:22] <Laney> I think it is our traditional menubar patch being wrong
[08:22] <seb128> seems simular to bug #1435348
[08:22] <seb128> but maybe similar bugs in the different toolkit implementations
[08:23] <seb128> or maybe a bug in the indicator...
[08:23] <larsu> Laney: cool bug
[08:24] <larsu> I'll have a look
[08:24] <larsu> also, good morning everyone
[08:24] <Laney> hey!
[08:24] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:24] <larsu> good, good. Found a *very* nice flat yesterday
[08:24] <larsu> hoping we'll get it
[08:24] <seb128> hey larsu! wie gehts?
[08:25] <larsu> seb128: great! (see above ;) )
[08:25] <larsu> how are you guzs
[08:25] <seb128> larsu, oh, another nice one? ;-)
[08:25] <Laney> awesome
[08:26] <larsu> :)
[08:27] <Laney> is it in a good location?
[08:31] <larsu> Laney: yes! Next to a park in Neukölln. Actually close to where dholbach lives
[08:31] <larsu> we don't have it yet though
[08:31] <larsu> applied for it last night
[08:32] <ochosi> good luck then! :)
[08:33] <larsu> thanks
[08:33] <ochosi> i presume the park is not hasenheide?
[08:33] <seb128> Laney, https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gtk/lp1444174/+merge/256311 is also something you might want to merge in?
[08:34] <larsu> oh, isn't that already in?
[08:34] <seb128> larsu, dunno, the mp is not set as merged
[08:35] <Laney> not for the SRU, but will be for W
[08:35] <larsu> can I W yet or is it too early?
[08:36] <Laney> W exists
[08:36]  * Laney is a happy W user
[08:37]  * seb128 too
[08:37] <seb128> not a lot of changes yet though
[08:37] <Laney> nope I didn't break all your scrollbars yet
[08:38] <didrocks> oh session-migration patches, nice!
[08:38] <seb128> :-)
[08:38] <larsu> Laney: yes you did (I'm on ww)
[08:38] <Laney> oh man ww, all bets are off
[08:40] <seb128> Laney, larsu, speaking of scrollbars, just though about that ... do you know how is unity7/dash using those, and what happens once we update gtk? does the dash get gtk scrollbars for free? does it keep using o-s through some hack?
[08:42] <larsu> seb128: it uses its own thing. Doesn't even listen to the gsettings key
[08:42] <Laney> I think it probably does it via nux & doesn't use o-s at all
[08:42] <Laney> or some other own thing
[08:42] <Laney> (still works here)
[08:42] <seb128> k, good
[08:43] <didrocks> yeah, it's a nux widget
[08:44] <seb128> I was unsure if they would d/l open, reuse some of the components
[08:44] <seb128> if not, good
[08:44] <Laney> Trevinho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/1430059 is similar to the above and is for you (you got assigned), please look
[08:44] <seb128> dlopen even
[08:44] <didrocks> the assets are in /usr/share/nux/4.0/UITextures/
[08:44]  * didrocks patched that in a past life :p
[08:44] <seb128> we should perhaps change that implementation to look like the new GTK one?
[08:44] <Laney> you nuxpert
[08:45] <seb128> or is GTK going to look similar to o-s?
[08:45] <didrocks> Laney: unfortunately, I know too much about nux I would ever have like :p
[08:45] <Laney> hopefully we'll theme it to look similar
[08:46] <didrocks> seb128: changing assets is fine and easy (just generate tga files), changing size and behavior… I would say we shouldn't as everything is absolutely positionned
[08:46] <larsu> Laney, seb128: we can, but we won't get the out-of-window experience
[08:46] <didrocks> and so, we can enter a world of pain, knowing that nux isn't going to be the way forward
[08:47] <Laney> sure
[08:47] <seb128> right, at the same time we can't degrade the unity7 user experience too much
[08:47] <seb128> it's still going to be the dev desktop for the next LTS
[08:48] <larsu> indeed. I'll have a patch for you guys to look at soon
[08:48]  * larsu is still struggling with some transparency issues
[08:49] <didrocks> if we found someone working on it, good, just be aware that it's not going to be trivial and we can get a bunch of regressions which is degrading the user experience
[08:50] <didrocks> so don't count on that being just a week hack
[08:50] <seb128> didrocks, don't underestimate Trevinho :-)
[08:51] <seb128> he knows that code, he wrote it, I'm sure he could do tweaks in a week
[08:53] <didrocks> let's see :)
[08:54] <didrocks> (I still think we degrade more the user experience by not having the same scrollbar in our default set of apps)
[08:55] <seb128> degrade requires to start from a situation and lower it
[08:55] <seb128> which we don't have today
[08:56] <seb128> so we don't really degrade anything on the apps front
[08:56] <didrocks> well, the o-s in the dash doesn't look like the one in our apps already
[08:56] <didrocks> so how is it degrading?
[08:56] <seb128> the thumb looks identical to me
[08:56] <seb128> so identical that I though they might be dlopening o-s to load the widget
[08:56] <didrocks> ah, you mean the thumb
[08:56] <seb128> yes
[08:56] <didrocks> not the scrollbar itself
[08:56] <seb128> right
[08:57] <didrocks> so, I don't know how the thumb is done
[08:57] <didrocks> it can be a dlopen
[08:57]  * didrocks was talking about the scrollbar only
[08:59] <seb128> I see
[08:59] <seb128> I was speaking about the interactive part of the scrollbars
[08:59] <seb128> I don't find it shocking that the scrollbar/position looks different from apps since the dash looks different from an app
[08:59] <seb128> they have different visual identities
[09:00] <seb128> it would be weird to have a grey gtk scrollbars in a transparent dash
[09:00] <didrocks> I find the thumb out of place though with this dash visual identity
[09:00] <didrocks> you have a grey thumb on top of it (I never use the mouse to interact with it, so didn't notice)
[09:04] <seb128> yeah
[09:06] <didrocks> unity-shared/PlacesOverlayVScrollBar.cpp
[09:06] <didrocks> they are redrawn it seems
[09:08] <seb128> cool
[09:17] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, I saw that bug.
[09:18] <Laney> ok, as long as it is in the pile ;-)
[09:19] <Trevinho> seb128,Laney about that gtk build fix I actually proposed this months ago upstream (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744086) but Ryan never approved it (and neither larsu did) :°(
[09:22] <didrocks> WHAT
[09:22] <didrocks> pep8 is passing there
[09:22] <didrocks> not in utopic…
[09:22] <seb128> Trevinho, sorry about that
[09:22] <larsu> Trevinho: !windows == unix?
[09:22] <larsu> not sure we want that
[09:22] <Trevinho> larsu: in that context it is
[09:22] <Trevinho> larsu: considering that gtk-launch is working in all !unix stuff
[09:23] <Trevinho> err, unix
[09:24] <larsu> Trevinho: gtk-launch doesn't work on windows, does it?
[09:26] <Trevinho> larsu: no, it doesn't... but it's build everywhere else and it does require gio-unix
[09:26] <Trevinho> built
[09:30] <larsu> Trevinho: it does? Makefile.am doesn't mention that and gtk-launch.c has a lot of #ifdef G_OS_UNIX
[09:30] <larsu> I haven't looked in detail, but it looks like I can build it without
[09:31] <Trevinho> larsu: it can't built without gio-unix on unix...
[09:33] <larsu> Trevinho: oh right, it doesn't do HAVE_GIO or whatever
[09:33] <larsu> meh, fine by me
[09:33] <larsu> would get a 2nd opinion from mclasen though
[09:34] <Trevinho> larsu: I asked on #gtk+ some times, no feedback
[09:35] <larsu> Trevinho: I'll put up a review so that we generate some bug mail ;)
[09:36] <Trevinho> :)
[09:36] <Trevinho> thanks
[09:36] <Trevinho> larsu: not sure it merges cleanly right now btw... it has a couple fo months
[09:37] <larsu> Trevinho: it applies, but is missing the have_gio_unix line from the mir backend which was added later. Commenting on that
[09:41]  * Trevinho knew that he had to push to master directly :P
[09:48] <larsu> Trevinho: err don't.
[09:48] <larsu> ;)
[09:48] <Trevinho> larsu: no, I'm a good guy
[09:50] <Trevinho> larsu: how I update a patch with git bz?
[09:51] <larsu> Trevinho: git bz apply <bug nr>; HACK; git commit --amend; git bz attach -e <bug nr> HEAD
[09:51] <larsu> it'll mark the old patch as obsolete if it has the same title
[09:51] <larsu> but drops you in an editor to make those kinds of changes
[09:51] <larsu> bbiab
[09:51] <Trevinho> larsu: yeah, I only missed the last command (I did the first two)..
[13:13] <willcooke> qengho, do you know about this ppa:  https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta
[13:13] <willcooke> what's the relationship with our ppa, if any?
[13:14] <willcooke> I also read on the ML that "Widevine loading has been fixed so you can play Netflix on Cr."
[13:14] <willcooke> is that real?!
[13:26] <larsu> don't let desrt know this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11009497/
[13:27] <didrocks> larsu: didn't know we had such a service, nice!
[13:27] <larsu> didrocks: for the timezone completion thing in u-c-c
[13:28] <larsu> didrocks: it's pretty shitty though
[13:28] <didrocks> ah?
[13:28] <larsu> "Toront" gives 0 results
[13:28] <jcastro> hi guys, what package/library handles copy and paste buffers for X? I believe I'm stuck with an out of date package due to PPA adventures and my copy and paste behavior is busted.
[13:28] <larsu> didrocks: "Toronto" 12 or so
[13:29] <didrocks> larsu: how dare you partially name Toronto! It's all or nothing :p
[13:29] <didrocks> what? search completion?
[13:29] <didrocks> ;)
[13:29] <larsu> ya
[13:29] <larsu> so, kind of important to get close names correct
[13:29] <larsu> s/close/partially typed/
[13:52] <seb128> jcastro, unsure, maybe tjaalton can help you
[14:00] <EphraimMB> What does unity 8 look like now for the desktop?
[14:03] <larsu> seb128: do you have the bug number for the datetime completion bug?
[14:03]  * larsu cannot find it
[14:04] <larsu> or Laney?
[14:05] <larsu> I guess we used bug #1440157 for that? (it's slightly different)
[14:05] <seb128> larsu, yeah, that one
[14:06] <Laney> sorry I didn't see it
[14:06] <Laney> looks right
[14:06] <larsu> ok. Who wants to review? :P
[14:07] <larsu> finally got around to finish the patch
[14:07] <larsu> also found the actual issue
[14:08] <Laney> what component is it in?
[14:08] <larsu> timezonemap
[14:08] <larsu> creating the mr right now
[14:08] <Laney> interesting
[14:08] <Laney> thought it was a soup bug
[14:09] <larsu> that's what I thought, but turns out it had a good reason for keeping those connections open:
[14:10] <Laney> k, i'll look soon, have some other MPs from the redhat guy to review too
[14:10] <larsu> the input stream was never closed
[14:10] <Laney> need to arrange to get mail for this
[14:11] <larsu> Laney: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/timezonemap/lp1440157/+merge/258506
[14:11] <Laney> nooooooooooooo
[14:11] <Laney> it's libtimezonemap
[14:11] <larsu> why no?
[14:11] <Laney> or is it the other one?
[14:11] <Laney> wait
[14:11] <Laney> there's a bad one and a good one
[14:12] <larsu> well this is the one that u-c-c links against...
[14:12] <Laney> ah no this is the good one
[14:12] <larsu> (I think)
[14:12] <Laney> one's a fork of the other one or something
[14:12] <larsu> ugh
[14:12] <larsu> glad we have our processes down :)
[14:13] <Laney> asked for ev to delete it
[14:13] <larsu> thanks
[14:15] <Laney> will you file a bug on the geoname server about the completion being dodgy?
[14:15] <larsu> sure. Do you know the name of the component?
[14:16] <larsu> there's already bug #1197969
[14:16] <Laney> i think it's https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames
[14:16] <seb128> it is
[14:16] <larsu> ah thanks, I'll add that to the bug report
[14:16] <seb128> there are a few related bugs
[14:16] <Laney> not sure if anyone works on this actively
[14:16] <Laney> so if we want it fixed ...
[14:17] <seb128> e.g https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames/+bug/769166
[14:17] <seb128> or bug #1043843
[15:11] <qengho> Hi all. May I have a sponsor to upload chromium-browser to wily from this PPA? https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/ubuntu/stage
[15:19] <willcooke> qengho, hey - did you see my question from earlier?  Up there ^^ :)
[15:22] <qengho> Er, I heard a beep but didnt see the cause.
[15:23] <willcooke> forgive copy & paste...
 qengho, do you know about this ppa:  https://launchpad.net/~saiarcot895/+archive/ubuntu/chromium-beta
 what's the relationship with our ppa, if any?
 I also read on the ML that "Widevine loading has been fixed so you can play Netflix on Cr."
[15:23] <willcooke> * xclaesse_ (~xclaesse@modemcable154.55-37-24.static.videotron.ca) has joined #ubuntu-desktop
 is that real?!
[15:24] <qengho> willcooke: oh, saikrishna. Yeah, a community member. Does great stuff. There's no strong relationship between his PPA and mine. We trade ideas, except he doesn't have to care about legalities I do. :)
[15:24] <willcooke> gotya
[15:24] <willcooke> So the widevine stuff is not going to meet our Cr any time soon I expect
[15:26] <qengho> willcooke: Right, we probably won't ever be able to distribute widevine without Legal Dept working out the details.
[15:26] <willcooke> thx
[15:26] <seb128> qengho, the upload is a pocket copy right?
[15:26] <qengho> seb128: yes.
[15:26] <seb128> qengho, I can do that
[15:27] <qengho> seb128: thanks!
[15:27] <seb128> qengho, yw!
[15:28] <seb128> qengho, 42.0.2311.135-1ubuntu1.1160 is correct right?
[15:29] <qengho> seb128: Yes. Verified.
[15:30] <seb128> thanks
[15:30] <seb128> copied
[15:30] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/42.0.2311.135-1ubuntu1.1160
[19:45] <willcooke> quittin' time
[19:45] <willcooke> brutal few days.  So day off tomorrow.
[19:45] <willcooke> ta ta