| dholbach | good morning | 07:01 |
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| Halacs | hi | 08:32 |
| Halacs | morning | 08:32 |
| Halacs | somebody know where are can find a snappy ubuntu core iso to install it my bare metal servers? BTW what is the difference between snappy ubuntu core and ubuntu core (without snappy)? | 08:33 |
| Halacs | I try to ask, but I am affraid everybody is sleeping right now | 08:34 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy No Socks Day! 😃 | 09:04 |
| tbr | Halacs: just a new user, but afaiu just core is deb based, while snappy core has all that stuff for app separation etc and no debs | 09:09 |
| tbr | Halacs: if your bare metal machine has traditional BIOS, then you can just use the x86_64 image | 09:10 |
| tbr | Halacs: if it only has UEFI, then you'll have to wait until they fix that | 09:10 |
| tbr | and by 'just use the image' I mean you can just dd it to a drive | 09:11 |
| Halacs | I have an IBM Balde Center H, and to be honest, currently I dont know whether is is UFI or not, but I will try this | 09:12 |
| Halacs | but, could you give me a link for the image you mentioned? | 09:12 |
| Halacs | just for sure | 09:12 |
| tbr | http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ubuntu-15.04-snappy-amd64-generic.img.xz | 09:14 |
| Halacs | thanks tbr! | 09:14 |
| tbr | just uncompress & write that to a disk or a usb device and boot it | 09:15 |
| Halacs | okay, thanks, I will try it | 09:17 |
| dduffey | anyone have a dhcp-server snap app? | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | dduffey, i would take a look at webdm ... not dhcp but avahi ... | 13:06 |
| ogra_ | shouldnt be hard to deduct how to roll a dhcp server snap from that | 13:06 |
| dduffey | ogra_, what I want to do is setup a small snappy dhcpd server so all my other snappy devices will get an IP address from that server | 13:06 |
| dduffey | ogra_, ah, I see | 13:07 |
| utlemming | do we have an apparmor guide to debugging on Snappy? I'm having problems with NodeJS not playing well. | 13:17 |
| alecu | sergiusens: hi! is the webdm package only released on armhf? I can't find it with "snappy search" on my amd64 kvm | 13:30 |
| alecu | Chipaca: too ^ | 13:31 |
| Chipaca | alecu: it's only released for rolingas | 13:32 |
| * alecu gets a new haircut | 13:32 | |
| alecu | Chipaca: how can I enable rolingas? | 13:33 |
| alecu | is it a separate channel, or an installation option.... | 13:34 |
| Chipaca | alecu: not sure whether you can easily switch; at image creation time, it's something like: sudo ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --channel edge --output 386.img --developer-mode --enable-ssh --device generic_i386 | 13:34 |
| alecu | great, thanks. | 13:34 |
| alecu | kyrofa: ^ | 13:34 |
| alecu | Chipaca: no luck. I created the image with that command, booted it in kvm, but still snappy search can't find webdm | 13:44 |
| alecu | Chipaca: I check the channel.ini, and it says: | 13:45 |
| alecu | channel: ubuntu-core/rolling/edge | 13:45 |
| alecu | any ideas? | 13:45 |
| beuno | maybe it's only available for armhf? | 13:49 |
| * beuno looks | 13:49 | |
| beuno | Supported architectures: | 13:50 |
| beuno | 64-bit x86, ARM | 13:50 |
| beuno | so no | 13:50 |
| beuno | Supported releases: | 13:50 |
| beuno | rolling-core | 13:50 |
| sergiusens | alecu: I have no idea why you can't find it. | 13:52 |
| sergiusens | alecu: https://search.apps.ubuntu.com/api/v1/package/webdm | 13:53 |
| sergiusens | beuno: did me pushing a new version for only rolling automatically unpublish 0.5 for 15.04? It was one of the things I wanted to test | 13:54 |
| beuno | sergiusens, it did, because the store only shows one version of an app atm | 13:54 |
| sergiusens | beuno: is that by design? | 13:54 |
| sergiusens | or just something missing? | 13:55 |
| beuno | sergiusens, by design originally, and now that's changed with snappy | 13:55 |
| beuno | so there's an item in the backlog to change that | 13:55 |
| sergiusens | beuno: that's fine then, or else we will be living confusing times | 13:56 |
| sergiusens | beuno: I guess I can just tick 15.04 then or else I'll get a bunch of people asking for the link | 13:56 |
| beuno | today you wouldn't be able to install a specific version, for example | 13:56 |
| beuno | sergiusens, indeed | 13:56 |
| beuno | we'll have channels soon to allow you to do releases better ) | 13:56 |
| * sergiusens creates an image from scratch to see if he sees what alecu is seeing | 13:57 | |
| sergiusens | beuno: \o/ | 13:57 |
| alecu | sergiusens: I used the cmdline that chipaca pasted earlier, then started it with: | 13:57 |
| alecu | kvm -m 768 -redir :8090::80 -redir :8022::22 386.img | 13:57 |
| alecu | then I sshd into it, sudo snappy update, snappy search | 13:58 |
| sergiusens | alecu: you don't need to run update to search though ;-) | 13:58 |
| alecu | sergiusens: I tried search first, and when it didn't find anything I muscle memoried apt-get update | 13:59 |
| alecu | but I see what you mean | 13:59 |
| sergiusens | alecu: alias kvm_snappy | 13:59 |
| sergiusens | alias kvm_snappy='kvm -m 1500 -redir :8022::22 -redir :8080::8080 -redir :4200::4200' | 13:59 |
| sergiusens | that's what I use ;-) | 13:59 |
| alecu | nice | 13:59 |
| sergiusens | alecu: I can't reproduce http://paste.ubuntu.com/11026375/ | 14:01 |
| sergiusens | just created a fresh image | 14:01 |
| beowulf | boo | 14:02 |
| sergiusens | alecu: I know, Chipaca told you to create an i386 image; there's no webdm for 386! | 14:02 |
| alecu | sergiusens: what command did you use to create it? | 14:02 |
| alecu | ah! | 14:02 |
| beowulf | my snappy as vmware image workflow seems to be broken now :( | 14:02 |
| sergiusens | alecu: sudo ubuntu-device-flash core rolling --output amd64.img --developer-mode --channel edge | 14:02 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: how so? | 14:02 |
| alecu | sergiusens: I'll try that, thanks a bunch! | 14:02 |
| sergiusens | np | 14:03 |
| alecu | sergiusens: you don't use "--enable-ssh"? | 14:03 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: converting i get a error message/warning: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11026387/ | 14:04 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: and vmware fails to ubuntu-core boot with that vmdk | 14:04 |
| beowulf | PXE-E53: No boot filename received | 14:05 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: you are seeing kpartx issues | 14:05 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: clear the mappings (quickest is to reboot ubuntu) | 14:05 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: does that make me special? do i get a badge | 14:06 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: yes, I'll reboot ubuntu.... *whistles* | 14:06 |
| sergiusens | @reviewlist | 14:35 |
| nothal | https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-core-launcher/unshare/+merge/258367 | No reviews (1 day old) | 14:35 |
| nothal | https://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/webdm/disabled-install-buttons-for-oem-types/+merge/258621 | No reviews (less than a day old) | 14:35 |
| nothal | https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/snappy/install.yaml/+merge/256925 | Needs Information: 1, Needs Fixing: 1 (16 days old) | 14:35 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: added a comment to your MP | 14:40 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: good spot, ta | 14:43 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: Chipaca https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/webdm/queryPackageNames/+merge/258639 | 14:57 |
| sergiusens | hmmm | 14:58 |
| * sergiusens resubmits | 14:58 | |
| beowulf | sergiusens: you want me to take that and put search back? | 14:59 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: which might not happen today, as i'm still trying to get a working ubuntu-core | 15:00 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: no worries, I also have an improvement to make to that MP | 15:01 |
| Chipaca | @reviewlist | 15:13 |
| nothal | https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-core-launcher/unshare/+merge/258367 | No reviews (1 day old) | 15:13 |
| nothal | https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/webdm/queryPackageNames/+merge/258640 | No reviews (less than a day old) | 15:13 |
| nothal | https://code.launchpad.net/~jamesodhunt/snappy/install.yaml/+merge/256925 | Needs Information: 1, Needs Fixing: 1 (16 days old) | 15:13 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: know what this means? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11027355/ | 15:13 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: do you have the latest snappy? | 15:14 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: how did this all start to happen? | 15:14 |
| sergiusens | mvo: ideas? ^ | 15:14 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: on 14.04 i did udf, and vmware couldn't but the vmdk build from that img, so i've upgraded... and now i see this | 15:15 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: trusty? | 15:15 |
| beowulf | now on 15.04 | 15:15 |
| sergiusens | oh | 15:15 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: which ppa should i be using? | 15:17 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: snappy-dev/tools | 15:17 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: hullo hullo hullo! | 15:18 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: hi! | 15:20 |
| jdstrand | unfortunately, I need to step away for a few minutes. but ask in backscroll and I'll get back to you in a bit | 15:21 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: sure. It's about https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-core-launcher/unshare/+merge/258367 | 15:23 |
| mvo | sergiusens: meh, I thought we had fixed all the "exit status without further info " issues, is this u-d-f build against latest stable (or unstable) of u-d-f ? I wonder if that helps | 15:24 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: apparmor complains, not about unshare(2), but about mount | 15:24 |
| sergiusens | mvo: I think beowulf is on whatever is on vivid | 15:25 |
| sergiusens | mvo: and yeah, we didn't fix all the exit status messages which kind of sucks a bit :-/ | 15:25 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: mvo: i initially added ppa:snappy-dev/beta, i don't know if that matters (looked at wrong docs) | 15:26 |
| sergiusens | mvo: maybe he is just on an out of date u-d-f (I hope it's that) | 15:26 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: mvo: i hope/plan to get to that next week | 15:26 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: using beta should be fine | 15:26 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: mvo: i expect your first few days back are going to be spent reviewing :) | 15:26 |
| beowulf | sergiusens: mvo anything i can try to get a working img? | 15:27 |
| sergiusens | beowulf: mvo I suspect snappy unpack is failing for some reason | 15:29 |
| sergiusens | but that is just gut feeling | 15:29 |
| mvo | beowulf: hm, I am not sure, maybe a rebuild against a up-to-date snappy | 15:31 |
| sergiusens | mvo: does it fail for you using what's in the ppa? | 15:34 |
| mvo | sergiusens: against what version is u-d-f in the ppa build? | 15:34 |
| mvo | sergiusens: I need to check, give me a sec | 15:34 |
| sergiusens | mvo: Built-Using: golang (= 2:1.3.3-1ubuntu4), golang-ar (= 0.0~git20150512-0ubuntu2), golang-go-flags (= 0.0~git20141007-1), golang-gocheck (= 0.0~bzr20131118+85-2), golang-goconfigparser (= 0.2-0ubuntu1), golang-juju-loggo (= 0.0~git20150318-0ubuntu1), golang-pb (= 0.0~git20131219-1), golang-yaml.v2 (= 0.0~git20150225-0ubuntu1), ubuntu-snappy (= 1.0-1+424~ubuntu15.04.1) | 15:35 |
| Chipaca | 424 is not latest | 15:36 |
| sergiusens | Chipaca: no, it was until last night | 15:36 |
| Chipaca | i mean, 439 is what's in the ppa from last night | 15:36 |
| Chipaca | *ancient* :-p | 15:36 |
| mvo | sergiusens: I think r436 has some important error reporting fixes | 15:39 |
| mvo | having that would be good | 15:39 |
| sergiusens | mvo: I can trigger a rebuild, we have recipes for everything now ;-) | 15:39 |
| mvo | that would be cool | 15:39 |
| sergiusens | mvo: Chipaca to bookmark https://code.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/+recipes ;-) | 15:39 |
| mvo | yay! you found it! | 15:40 |
| sergiusens | mvo: btw https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/goget-ubuntu-touch/bump_upstream/+merge/258651 | 15:45 |
| sergiusens | or the recipe will fail... | 15:45 |
| sergiusens | mvo: and I've been thinking about snappy build and releases and rolling and haven't come up with anything smart yet, maybe we need to add the base release to packages.yaml | 15:46 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: what is the denial? I may be surprised if seccomp likes it too | 16:30 |
| Chipaca | [Fri May 8 16:31:01 2015] audit: type=1400 audit(1431102661.774:53): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mount" info="failed mntpnt match" error=-13 profile="/usr/bin/ubuntu-core-launcher" name="/tmp/" pid=1928 comm="ubuntu-core-lau" flags="rw, private" | 16:31 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: sneakily, I do it before seccomp | 16:31 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: is it possible to do it before apparmor? right now things are quite clean wrt apparmor rules-- we don't allow any mounts, umounts or remounts | 16:32 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: bah. i do it before loading seccomp for the target executable, but i guess it's run under a seccomp of its own? | 16:32 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: that said, we could probably craft a rule that is acceptable | 16:32 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: i think the launcher is run under apparmor already | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | the launcher is not | 16:33 |
| jdstrand | the launcher does the equivalant of an 'aa-exec' | 16:33 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: then what is debian/usr.bin.ubuntu-core-launcher ? | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | iirc, it do an aa_change_onexec | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: oh, yes | 16:34 |
| Chipaca | :) | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: right, the launcher does run under a profile, for some reason I read the above denial as an app denial, but it is a launcher denial | 16:34 |
| jdstrand | sorry | 16:34 |
| Chipaca | yep yep, it's the launcher itself | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | yep, I'm there now | 16:35 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: mount rules are tricky, hold on a sec | 16:35 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: i do two mounts, fwiw | 16:36 |
| Chipaca | well, you can see 'em in the mp | 16:36 |
| jdstrand | mount options=(rw private) -> /tmp/, | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: can you add the above to /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.ubuntu-core-launcher, then do: sudo apparmor_parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.ubuntu-core-launcher | 16:38 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: actually we should change that (feel free to test it for now while I get the other other one) | 16:42 |
| Chipaca | [Fri May 8 16:43:50 2015] audit: type=1400 audit(1431103430.829:55): apparmor="DENIED" operation="mount" info="failed flags match" error=-13 profile="/usr/bin/ubuntu-core-launcher" name="/tmp/" pid=1942 comm="ubuntu-core-lau" srcname="/tmp/snaps.1000/hello-world.canonical/1.0.15/tmp/" flags="rw, bind" | 16:44 |
| Chipaca | ^ advanced to the second mount :) | 16:44 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: mount options=(rw bind) /tmp/snaps.[0-9]*/**/tmp/ -> /tmp/, | 16:45 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: \ooooooooo/ | 16:46 |
| jdstrand | yay! | 16:46 |
| jdstrand | so feel free to add those to the profile with a comment | 16:46 |
| jdstrand | fyi, I asked Tyler to review the mp. he'll be back on monday | 16:47 |
| jdstrand | (he looked really hard at the launcher before) | 16:47 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: excellent; i'll wait for his review | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: for Tyler's context, in the commit for the above profile changes, can you add the denials? | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | the commit log that is | 16:48 |
| Chipaca | i'll get mvo or sergiusens to +1 the basic code | 16:48 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: sure | 16:48 |
| jdstrand | cool | 16:49 |
| jdstrand | thanks | 16:49 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: thank you! | 16:50 |
| beowulf | 'night all o/ | 16:51 |
| Chipaca | beowulf: have a good weekend! | 16:52 |
| Chipaca | jdstrand: there | 16:52 |
| jdstrand | Chipaca: great, thanks again :) | 17:03 |
| Chipaca | mvo: sergiusens: log juggling done, for now at least | 17:22 |
| Chipaca | mvo: perhaps now the parallel between logger and interacter is more obvious :) | 17:22 |
| Chipaca | mvo: and then again, perhaps you were right and i was overthinking it :) | 17:22 |
| mvo | Chipaca: heh, I like what I see in the branches! simple and does all we need for now, I guess one more for the error logging will come later(?). but yeah, the similarities are striking now, I wonder how to combine the log and the progress, maybe we can have a "human-friendly" log that omits all the crazy timestamps(?) | 17:25 |
| Chipaca | mvo: i think the one for error logging is up already | 17:25 |
| mvo | Chipaca: but I may talk nonsesens, haven't really thought this through yet | 17:25 |
| Chipaca | mvo: but maybe you're talking about a different one | 17:25 |
| Chipaca | oh | 17:26 |
| Chipaca | oooooh | 17:26 |
| mvo | Chipaca: I was thinking if all the logging in lp:~chipaca/snappy/die-LogError-die is covered in the followups | 17:26 |
| Chipaca | mvo: I'D ALREADY FORGOTTEN | 17:26 |
| * Chipaca hides in shame | 17:26 | |
| mvo | ha! at least I'm not the only one with a memory like a goldfish :P | 17:26 |
| * mvo hugs Chipaca | 17:26 | |
| Chipaca | mvo: there :) | 17:31 |
| Chipaca | mvo: is the target for https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/snappy/selftest-failover/+merge/258655 the right one? | 17:33 |
| thesheff17 | is this what people are using for pip and snappy? http://www.wefearchange.org/2015/04/creating-python-snaps.html | 17:54 |
| sergiusens | Chipaca: are you going to be around for a while longer? | 18:44 |
| mvo | Chipaca: ups, its not, I updated the MP, silly me | 19:04 |
| sergiusens | mvo: Chipaca mind taking a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/webdm/oemBrokeFix/+merge/258681 ? | 19:24 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: I am going to be around a while, now | 19:36 |
| sergiusens | Chipaca: heh, if you would of replied sooner I would of taken the complicated approach to fix https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/webdm/oemBrokeFix/+merge/258681 :-P | 19:37 |
| sergiusens | now I await the needs fixings ;-) | 19:37 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: ah, i haven't top-approved | 19:37 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: what was the complicated approach? | 19:37 |
| sergiusens | Chipaca: extend packageYaml in snappy and add an interface to get the branding | 19:38 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: at this stage, what's another spot on the liger | 19:38 |
| Chipaca | ... wait, ligers don't have spots | 19:38 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: top-approved | 19:39 |
| sergiusens | Chipaca: thunder cats you mean? | 19:39 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liger | 19:40 |
| mvo | holly cow, I learned something new today (again!) | 19:42 |
| Chipaca | mvo: no, that's Auðumbla | 19:56 |
| Chipaca | or maybe Gavaevodata | 19:56 |
| sergiusens | mvo: what is this version number's granularity btw ? 1.4.0.0.2 ? | 20:02 |
| mvo | sergiusens: we have support for "-" so 1.4.0-2 | 20:02 |
| mvo | sergiusens: maybe I'm not understanding the question actually | 20:02 |
| sergiusens | mvo: so many dots, that's all :-) | 20:03 |
| mvo | I think its a artifcat from the old days when we did not have a "-" | 20:03 |
| mvo | so many dots where used to simulate the packaging version | 20:03 |
| * Chipaca is going to make packages versioned “.”, “..”, “...”. Because the docs say I can. | 20:04 | |
| Chipaca | mvo: does selftest have tarmac? | 20:06 |
| Chipaca | or otherwise auto-merge? | 20:06 |
| mvo | I don't think so | 20:06 |
| Chipaca | mvo: i don't think i'm going to manage to review your selftest branches today though | 20:07 |
| Chipaca | not with any kind of proper testing | 20:07 |
| sergiusens | mvo: I think it does, but it doesn't any sanity checks | 20:08 |
| sergiusens | confirmed, it's there | 20:10 |
| mvo | aha, ok | 20:10 |
| mvo | having the selftest in tarmac and building a image etc would be cool, but I'm too tired to even think about this | 20:10 |
| mvo | (i.e. as test run it on a fresh image) | 20:10 |
| * mvo will vanish into bed soon | 20:11 | |
| Chipaca | mvo: by "snappy install typo", you mean a snappy install of a package that can't be found? | 20:13 |
| Chipaca | mvo: if so, yes, we log those | 20:13 |
| Chipaca | will reply on the mp, go to bed :) | 20:14 |
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| sergiusens | Chipaca: one last one please https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/webdm/policies/+merge/258686 | 20:16 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: go | 20:17 |
| mvo | Chipaca: yes, that, its fine, just wanted to check :) | 20:18 |
| * mvo waves | 20:18 | |
| sergiusens | Chipaca: i'll bbl, which means you should nt even be here btw ;-) | 20:30 |
| mhall119 | does snappy require root to install? I thought we got away from that with click. | 22:25 |
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