[04:09] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Grooveshark-to-Be-Removed-from-Ubuntu-Touch-480487.shtml
[06:10] <morphis> ogra_, rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11021064/ .. its going to work
[06:35] <cylonmath2> Guys for some reason, my phone's battery lasts much much longer. I would say she spends the nights with a %5 battery loss, previously it was like %40 loss. Is this only because I turned off 3G?
[06:40] <ulrichard> Why can't I start the video player from the terminal like so :  mediaplayer-app video:///home/phablet/Videos/2015_SpeedFlyingAndermatt_phone.mp4
[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[08:07] <mardy> what is the component responsible for bringing up the incoming call dialog?
[08:08] <mardy> (bug 1453004 is currently assigned to ubuntu-ux, but it's actually a bug in some component)
[08:41] <jgdx> mardy, you could file against canonical-devices-system-image instead of ubuntu-ux.
[08:41] <mardy> jgdx: thanks, I'll move it there
[08:44] <SturmFlut> Interesting, the bq E4.5 seems to identify as "device::ro.product.name=occam;ro.product.model=Nexus 4;ro.product.device=mako" via ADB
[08:44] <ogra_> SturmFlut, yeah, there is a bug open for that ...
[08:44] <SturmFlut> ogra_: Oh, great
[08:48] <ogra_> bug 1297927
[08:56] <mardy> greyback: hi! I'm watching now the UOS session about unity8 in desktop mode. About your QtCreator demo, does that mean that now it's possible to run QWidget based apps in unity8 without passing via xmir?
[08:57] <greyback> mardy: it's possible, but there's lots of window-management corner cases we need to fix up. That demo was using not-yet-landed code
[09:00] <cousteau> a bit of speculative conversation:  would it be possible to develop an Android APK compatibility layer?  I imagine this would be similar to Wine for running Windows programs
[09:00] <cousteau> (so not everything would just "run natively" but would need some back-ends and compatibility layers)
[09:01] <ogra_> cousteau, thats surely possible, but you would have to ship the whole layer inside your click package
[09:01] <cousteau> maybe the word was "feasible", not "possible"
[09:02] <cousteau> ogra_, do you mean that it should be shipped per app, rather than as a single emulator-ish app?
[09:02] <ogra_> click apps cant see each other ... (or much of the system) so each apk app would have to ship it
[09:03] <ogra_> there is a bitcoin app in the store i think ... thats shipping a whole java layer
[09:04] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy No Socks Day! 😃
[09:04] <cousteau> oh, there's no java package for ubuntu touch just like there is for ubuntu desktop?
[09:04] <ogra_> there are debs ... you could use the binaries from there inside your click
[09:05] <ogra_> but no, click packages do not work like debs ...
[09:05] <cousteau> anyway, I guess the solution could be to have a single "Android app" and have the .apk installed inside that
[09:05] <ogra_> with the switch to snappy (which is supposed to happen in ~6 months) it will be possible to have a framework package
[09:05] <cousteau> oh, that sounds better :)
[09:05] <ogra_> that could then provide a systemwide framework for your app
[09:06] <ogra_> until then, you will have to fully bundle all deps in your click package
[09:06] <cousteau> having all apps be self-contained sounds like an elegant and clean solution but may not be very optimal
[09:07] <cousteau> but still, as I said there could be a single Android app and have the .apk install inside it
[09:08] <cousteau> although that would probably not be "transparent" enough for the user, since ideally one would want the app switcher to display all instances of running Android apps, not just a single one
[09:09] <cousteau> and I'm not sure if the app switcher restricts each package to a single "window" or if they can spawn several windows
[09:11] <cousteau> Touch doesn't have a Back button/gesture like Android, right?
[09:12] <morphis> cousteau: https://code.google.com/p/gentroid/ might be interesting for you
[09:12]  * cousteau is thinking that maybe swipe from left/right should be app-specific gestures such as back/menu or back/forward
[09:13] <morphis> last time I looked at it some of the code was missing so not able to reproduce that from the existing source
[09:13] <cousteau> ouch
[09:15] <cousteau> has it been considered to add "swipe from corners" as extra gestures?  Or would that overcomplicate things?
[09:16] <cylonmath2> do we have chance to use swipe typing?
[09:18] <cousteau> that way you'd add 4 extra features, and could free "swipe left/right" for application-specific actions.  Swipe left looks like an intuitive gesture for "go back", and swipe right could open a narrow menu on the right
[09:22] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: i think the usermetrics stuff may have been fixid in vivid
[09:22] <tsdgeos> pete-woods: have you had a look at the bug oSoMoN filed today/yesterday?
[09:22] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, nope, I’m seeing that on vivid-proposed
[09:22] <oSoMoN> wait, actually I’m seeing it on image #199, I’ll update to the latest now and see if it fixes it
[09:23] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: ah, then it may be it's the apps fault, i want to remember usermetrics introduced a way to give the text in english+catalog so the translation would be on run time instead of in insert time
[09:23] <tsdgeos> but i may be dreaming :D
[09:23] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: so i gather the talk went well yesterday? full house?
[09:24] <pete-woods> tsdgeos: yeah, that feature works, but only for system installed clicks
[09:24] <pete-woods> I can't find a way of accessing the user's list of packages without actually being that user
[09:25] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, it went ok, there were about ~25 attendees (I had the impression there were more after the talk for the free beer and pizzas though)
[09:26] <tsdgeos> lol
[09:26] <tsdgeos> that's weird, there were more than 50 people signed up at the meetup page
[09:26] <tsdgeos> i guess that's bound to happen when signing up is "free"
[09:26] <oSoMoN> yeah, I know, but the organizers told me it’s not uncommon for about 1/3 of the attendees to not show up
[09:27] <oSoMoN> but it went well and they’re all a friendly crowd
[09:37] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, nope, updating to the latest image in devel-proposed (#207 on krillin) didn’t fix the issue
[09:42] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: oh sure, once the db is broken it'll be broken i guess
[09:42] <tsdgeos> i mean the text is already there in catalan
[09:43] <tsdgeos> it can't automatically be fixed to french
[09:43] <tsdgeos> anyway pete-woods is your man fr usermetrics
[09:44] <oSoMoN> ok, thanks for triaging the bug
[09:53] <brunch875> GAH! Wake up this morning and do my toilet-newspaper routine on my uphone.
[09:53] <brunch875> El Pais talks about the convergence project with Microsoft and how others have tried and failed
[09:53] <brunch875> pointing at ubuntu edge
[09:53] <brunch875> it made me grind my teeth
[09:54] <popey> heh
[09:56] <brunch875> Ironically El Pais should know better since it's the only spanish news scope
[10:00] <mpt> Where can I report bugs on the NearBy scope? It isn’t listed on <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers>, and <https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=nearby+scope+site%3Abugs.launchpad.net> doesn’t seem to show any Nearby-specific bugs
[10:01] <davmor2> brunch875: technically Edge did fail but the concepts didn't and live on as this UOS has clearly shown :)
[10:02] <brunch875> Yeah, what I mean is that article pointed how convergence died with Edge
[10:03] <davmor2> brunch875: so correct them and point them at the UOS videos so they can get it right :)
[10:04] <brunch875> Already have! Left a comment there. I would contact the author directly but I don't think it's possible
[10:04] <popey> mpt: poke cwayne i think
[10:05] <popey> mpt: when you find out, let me know, i have a couple to file
[10:05] <brunch875> Cooke's videos are great to see convergence working
[10:06] <davmor2> mpt: hanloon project I think
[10:07] <mpt> davmor2, judging by cwayne’s assigned bugs list, that looks right :) Thanks
[10:09] <mpt> popey, added. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers?action=diff&rev2=66&rev1=65>
[10:09] <popey> mpt: thats no good, its private
[10:10] <popey> avengers should really only link to public bug projects
[10:11] <mpt> It’s public on <http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html>, why does it need to be private on Launchpad?
[10:12] <popey> the code isn't public, that's the problem
[10:12] <popey> we had this with the today scope
[10:12] <popey> I'm sure there are others
[10:13] <popey> mpt: → victorp
[10:15] <mpt> That doesn’t mean the entire project needs to be private … Launchpad itself was for years a public LP project with private code
[10:18] <popey> I agree with you.
[10:32] <mpt> Reported bug 1453091 on making the project public (the bug report is private because of the bug itself)
[10:32]  * mpt pats ubot5 on the head
[11:05] <mpt> I wonder what the “Nearby” scope looks like in the village of Sviača, Belarus
[11:05] <mpt> Maybe I could expense the flights + bus + tractor ride to find out? :-)
[11:06] <mpt> (Or anywhere that isn’t a city covered by Time Out, basically)
[11:13] <SturmFlut> mpt: I think at least the "NearBy Wikipedia articles" part would show the "Belarus" article
[11:36] <cwayne> mpt, sturmflut2 it would still probably have stuff from yelp/wiki articles sure
[11:36] <cwayne> I live in not-a-city so I don't see nearly as much as when im travelling, but tbh it's still been really useful
[12:06] <pete-woods> pitti: if you could see it in your heart to get my dbusmock MR into the vivid overlay PPA, I would be eternally grateful! it'd be very nice to be able to land my bugfixes to indicator-network with tests enabled :)
[12:06] <pete-woods> (https://github.com/martinpitt/python-dbusmock/pull/9)
[12:06] <pitti> pete-woods: heh; sorry; UOS, apport security vuln, stuff just keeps coming :(
[12:07] <pitti> pete-woods: ah, that's a simple one indeed; the other two are much larger
[12:07] <pete-woods> pitti: sure, I understand you're busy. obviously I'd prefer to self-serve the release with citrain, but you're my bottleneck here :)
[12:07] <pitti> pete-woods: btw, why does that block you? packages can always ship their own mocks
[12:08] <pete-woods> pitti: I know, but I don't want to have to start copying the whole template and maintaining a separate copy
[12:08] <pitti> (or set/update the status at runtime, like this MP)
[12:08] <jgdx> ^ this :p
[12:08] <pitti> ok
[12:08] <pete-woods> pitti: and seriously, other people's tests need to be fixed if they depend on the broken rsn flags thing that's there at the moment
[12:08] <jgdx> pitti, did you see that subtle comment
[12:09] <pitti> jgdx: I did :)
[12:09] <jgdx> :p
[12:09] <jgdx> pitti, qa has said they can help out reviewing
[12:09] <jgdx> just fyi
[12:09] <pete-woods> is there much that QA can do, besides check a few packages' tests still pass?
[12:10] <pete-woods> it's not like dbusmock has "user" users
[12:10] <jgdx> they can look at the code too
[12:11] <pete-woods> but are QA intimately familiar with network manager / ofono internals?
[12:11] <pete-woods> I kinda wish I wasn't :p
[12:11] <jgdx> you and me both
[12:12]  * pitti looks at the pull requests while some builds/tests are running
[12:12] <pete-woods> :D
[12:12] <jgdx> http://i.imgur.com/u02K30c.png
[12:13] <pete-woods> pitti: I checked that jgdx's branch doesn't break my indicator-network tests, btw
[12:13] <pete-woods> and they still work afterwards
[12:13] <jgdx> the bribe helped
[12:13] <pitti> ah, good; you mean https://github.com/martinpitt/python-dbusmock/pull/6 ?
[12:13] <pete-woods> pitti: yep, that one
[12:14] <pete-woods> with any luck there shouldn't be a huge amount left to implement in there
[12:14] <pete-woods> expect another PR with secret agent support at some point, then I really think we've covered about everything the phone does
[12:16] <jgdx> then we start on the ofono mock
[12:17] <pete-woods> yeah, we still need to be able to test sim unlock cancel
[12:17] <pete-woods> seriously cannot figure out how to get that working
[12:18] <jgdx> pete-woods, kenvandine expanded our ofono template with some pin locking functionality. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/view/head:/tests/autopilot/ubuntu_system_settings/tests/ofono.py#L120
[12:19] <SturmFlut> Might be interesting for some: http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/08/hacking-ubuntu-touch-part-4-developer-mode-and-ADB/
[12:21] <pete-woods> jgdx: hrm, kinda looks like a lot of the high level logic in there should have actually moved into the template
[12:21] <jgdx> pete-woods, that's the plan.
[12:21] <pete-woods> oh wait
[12:21] <pete-woods> that's the template
[12:21] <pete-woods> but a copy
[12:21] <jgdx> oui
[12:21] <pete-woods> right, this is why I want the PRs in core dbusmock, not in each individual's project
[12:22] <pete-woods> free stuff for me!
[12:23] <pitti> jgdx: please run the full test suite -- pep8 is barfing like mad
[12:23] <jgdx> pitti, hm, ok
[12:23] <pitti> jgdx: (fixing now, but would be easier in the future)
[12:23] <pete-woods> jgdx: you need to run it once with ./setup test
[12:24] <pete-woods> jgdx: and again with python setup test
[12:24] <pete-woods> # tests must succeed for Python 2 and 3
[12:24] <pete-woods> ./setup.py test
[12:24] <pete-woods> python setup.py test
[12:24] <pete-woods> see do-release
[12:25] <jgdx> pitti, oh my
[12:28] <mpt> SturmFlut, Wikipedia’s Belarus article doesn’t have coordinates (too large, I guess), so probably not
[12:28] <pitti> jgdx: ok, got it fixed
[12:29] <jgdx> pitti, thanks. I gotta configure my editor properly. Sorry bout that
[12:29] <pitti> jgdx: no worries, just for next time
[12:29] <jgdx> pitti, yup
[12:31] <SturmFlut> mpt: Oh, interesting. I somehow assumed every country had a set of coordinates.
[12:37] <mpt> SturmFlut, most countries (or at least, the countries that most people are in at any moment) would be too large for that to be useful
[12:53] <pitti> jgdx, pete-woods: FYI, https://tracker.debian.org/news/683190; I'll sync it into wily this evening, when it gets imported into LP
[12:54] <pete-woods> pitti: the vivid overlay PPA would be the most helpful, if that's possible :)
[12:54] <pete-woods> as it will help me land a fairly good set of bugfixes there
[12:54] <pitti> pete-woods: we can sync from wily to that PPA, can't we?
[12:54] <pitti> or do we need magic version numbers there?
[12:54] <pete-woods> pitti: I have absolutely no idea. I have no package rights, etc
[12:54] <pitti> pete-woods: what and where is the overlay PPA?
[12:54] <pete-woods> as long as some version of it ends up in the overlay PPA, via whatever means, that's good for me
[12:55] <pitti> can/should people just upload there, or does that need to go through the train/spreadsheet?
[12:55] <pete-woods> pitti: phone images are now produced from vivid + "overlay PPA"
[12:55] <pete-woods> pitti: I don't know about upload rights. I have no rights anywhere, so citrain is everything for me
[12:55] <pete-woods> pitti: but you probably have more packge-fu than me, so I don't know if that applies to you or now=t
[12:55] <pete-woods> not
[12:56] <ogra_> pitti, nobody is exactly sure what the plan for landing is, development is supposed to all happen in vivid now so that wily is free for snappy work ... perhaps the syncing will only happen in the other direction
[12:56] <pitti> ogra_: well, I can also upload a ~vivid backport to a PPA, if (1) someone tells me where that is, and (2) that it's okay to upload there
[12:56] <ogra_> sil2100, ^^^ or do you know more yet ?
[12:57] <pete-woods> pitti: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay/ubuntu vivid main
[12:57] <pete-woods> is what's on the phone now
[12:58] <pete-woods> that's about the limit of my knowledge
[12:58]  * pitti looks at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay
[12:58] <pitti> ok, there are CI train landings, but apparently also direct uploads
[12:58] <pete-woods> so there are some manual uploads
[12:59] <pete-woods> must be great to be able to totally skip the QA process :p
[12:59] <pete-woods> (sarcasm)
[12:59] <pitti> eek -- there are packages which are newer than in wily
[12:59] <ogra_> lots :)
[12:59] <pete-woods> this is where trunk dev for phone-centric stuff is happening, so I guess that makes sense
[12:59] <pitti> didn't that cause the very mess that we got when updating from rtm to utopic and vivid?
[13:00] <Tm_T> hi
[13:00] <Tm_T> I'm currently in Happy Hacking Day event in Helsinki
[13:00] <ogra_> pitti, well, it will  be synced somehow :)
[13:00] <pitti> anyway, if it's ok to upload there, I'm happy to; otherwise, as dbusmock isn't set up for auto-landing, what needs to happen?
[13:00] <ogra_> pitti, the final policy just hasnt been decided yet afaik
[13:00] <Tm_T> will show up Ubuntu phone to the audience in an hour, also will try put finnish national broadcasting companys news to Ubuntu phone
[13:01] <Tm_T> I might come and ask things about scopes, just FYI (:
[13:01] <pitti> ogra_: ok; since I don't seem to be the first one and this is just a QA tool (not on the image) -- stick finger in ear, dput, run away? :-)
[13:01] <Mister_Q> Tm_T: great :)
[13:01] <ogra_> pitti, i would say yes, but the final word should be sil2100's
[13:02] <ogra_> (probably at lunch)
[13:02] <sil2100> Uploads needed to the overlay?
[13:02] <sil2100> Let me backlog a bit
[13:02] <ogra_> sil2100, test fixes only
[13:03] <sil2100> pitti: the overlay PPA follows the same rules as the archive - we have strict requirements for QA sign-off, but if a package is not directly used in the touch images then it can be published directly by a core-dev as anywhere else :)
[13:03] <pitti> sil2100: syncing a wily package into the PPA (or uploading a ~vivid backport) for dbusmock
[13:04] <pitti> sil2100: right, for dbusmock (test dependency only, not on images)
[13:04] <sil2100> pitti: I would say it's safe to land, if anything goes wrong we'll see by tests failing ;p
[13:05] <pitti> sil2100: right -- or, in pete-woods's case - succeeding :)
[13:07] <pitti> pete-woods: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+sourcepub/5046790/+listing-archive-extra
[13:07]  * pitti bbiab
[13:08] <pete-woods> pitti: woot! thanks!
[14:14] <cwayne> mardy, pingaling, is there any way to use an account-plugin with 'password' method with libaccounts-glib?
[14:23] <ulrichard> Why can't I start the video player from the terminal like so :  mediaplayer-app video:///home/phablet/Videos/2015_SpeedFlyingAndermatt_phone.mp4
[14:31] <dobey> ulrichard: short answer: security. you can't run gui apps directly from the terminal due to the way confinement works.
[14:31] <ulrichard> dobey, are there any workarounds?
[14:32] <dobey> i'm not quite sure how to pass a url via cli
[14:32] <ogra_> you could start a local ssh server and ssh to localhost ... that might work (not sure if graphical output works that way though)
[14:33] <dobey> it needs to go through url-dispatcher, but i don't know how to do that via cli on the phone
[14:33] <dobey> ogra_: probably don't want to play video over ssh -X though :)
[14:33] <ogra_> no, not -X indeed :)
[14:37] <jgdx> bfiller, kenvandine, mpt, just kicked off a build for the apn editor. Look for 0.3+15.04.20150508-ppa3
[14:38] <kenvandine> jgdx, thx
[14:38] <jgdx> bfiller, should fix most of the focus issues.
[14:38] <kenvandine> jgdx, how about the active/preferred check?
[14:38] <jgdx> kenvandine, coming as soon as it's done
[14:38] <kenvandine> ok
[14:38] <kenvandine> thx!
[14:43] <dobey> ogra_: well, you can't connect to mir without going through the proper channels, whether you're using Terminal app, adb shell, or ssh.
[14:44] <ogra_> dobey, you only need socket access though
[14:45] <dobey> ogra_: yes, which is why you need the tools to launch apps
[14:45] <Elleo> ulrichard: mediaplayer-app /path/to/your/file.mp4 --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/mediaplayer-app.desktop
[14:45] <ogra_> well, mediaplayer works from adb
[14:48] <mpt> jgdx, what was the address of the PPA? I lost it when I closed the hangout
[14:50] <jgdx> mpt, http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/ppa/ubuntu
[14:51] <ulrichard> Elleo: That seems to work, but if I include video:// in the path, it starts the media player, and shows something like an hourglass. Without video:// It says opening the file failed.
[14:53] <jgdx> mpt, I'm not sure my instructions are good for this ppa
[14:54] <jgdx> mpt, hm, no they are. But you might have to also install the following packages: libqofono-qt5-0 qtdeclarative5-ofono0.2
[14:54] <jgdx> kenvandine, ^? Those are in the ppa you said
[14:55] <brunch875> Hello!
[14:56] <Elleo> ulrichard: does the video play when launched normally from the gallery/video scope?
[14:57] <ulrichard> yes
[14:57] <Elleo> ulrichard: not sure what's up then, pretty sure I've played videos that way when testing in the past
[14:58] <jgdx> kenvandine, active+preferred thing done
[15:04] <kenvandine> jgdx, they are in the same ppa
[15:48] <elopio_> mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/reminders-app/update_token/+merge/258646
[15:50] <mzanetti> elopio_, \o/
[15:50] <mzanetti> elopio_, will wait for jenkins to run over it, then approve. thanks so much
[15:53] <elopio_> mzanetti: I couldn't confirm that all the tests pass, my machines gets crazy. But at least the new token is valid. Ping me if you see something weird.
[15:53] <mzanetti> ack
[16:20] <sturmflut2> What are the other advantages of phablet-shell besides using the correct terminal size and optionally copying the .bashrc?
[16:23] <ogra_> it supports everything ssh supports ... like ctrl chars in nano ;)
[16:24] <ogra_> (which adb doesnt, it doesnt integrate with termcap at all)
[16:24] <sturmflut2> Ah, that's a good point
[16:27] <sturmflut2> ogra_: Hm, the Ctrl chars also work with "adb shell" here.
[16:28] <ogra_> in nano ?
[16:28] <sturmflut2> ogra_: Jep
[16:28] <ogra_> try to edit something and exist
[16:28] <ogra_> exit
[16:28] <cwayne> nah, try to exist :P
[16:28] <sturmflut2> haha
[16:29] <sturmflut2> ogra_: Okay, this is strange. I start nano, edit the text, press Ctrl+x, tell it to save the modified buffer, and when it comes to the filename, I can't press "Enter" at the end.
[16:30] <ogra_> right
[16:30] <ogra_> thats adb :)
[16:30] <sturmflut2> Geniuses: Only at Google
[16:58] <sturmflut2> ogra_: Any known problems/disadvantages with phablet-shell?
[18:08] <kenvandine> jgdx, bfiller, mpt: libqofono is now published for vivid in the overlay, so i deleted it from the phablet-team PPA
[18:53] <jgdx> kenvandine, awesome
[20:41] <AZby> Tcastihola buenas
[20:43] <AZby> pues alguien sabe porque el móvil se queda buscando wifi y no cambia a 3G... El aquaris ubuntu
[20:43] <AZby> ?
[20:44] <AZby> hay algunas cosas que no van del todo bien y me gustaría saber si a alguien le pasa lo mismo
[20:45] <AZby> no?
[20:45] <AZby> nadie?
[20:45] <AZby> 😐
[20:45] <jgdx> AZby, not everyone in here speak Spanish.
[20:47] <AZby> sorry
[20:49] <jgdx> AZby, I see wifi and 3g. Are you describing this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1435328
[22:03] <Tm_T> hi, I have issues installing click now
[22:03] <Tm_T> which blocks whole ubuntu-sdk install http://paste.ubuntu.com/11032622/
[22:06] <OerHeks> Tm_T, maybe answer #3 is any help ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2276928
[22:09] <Tm_T> OerHeks: oo thanks your google-fu was mightier than mine
[22:09]  * Tm_T is stuck with lynx
[22:09] <OerHeks> I just found it with the last part, "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/click_0.4.38.5_amd64.deb"
[22:10] <OerHeks> maybe worth a bugreport ?
[22:10] <Tm_T> yeah
[22:31] <belkinsa> Hello all, the Ubuntu Touch version 15.04 r2 image number 20150413 on Nexus 7 doesn't allow me to download and install updates after a system update.
[22:44] <mark32> planning to install ubuntu touch on nexus 7 , also have a slimport connector with me, will I get the ubuntu desktop on my external display when I connect the nexus 7 with ubuntu to the display ?
[22:45] <mark32> nexus 7 2013*
[22:45] <belkinsa> Oh, mine is  Nexus 7 2013 also
[22:47] <mark32> belkinsa: any idea if desktop feature available on latest ubuntu touch
[22:47] <mark32> ?
[22:47] <belkinsa> I don't know, I'm a new user of Ubuntu Touch too.