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bluesabrewill sync those things in the morning04:21
bluesabrecame home and fell asleep04:22
bluesabreand now I'm going back to sleep04:22
bluesabreso night all04:22
Unit193G'night.04:25
ochosimorning all06:10
ochosibluesabre: i think the mirror mode in xfce4-display-settings might need another look. i just booted up the 15.04 live system and while my two displays are mirrored (which seems like a pretty good default setting), the display settings dialog is showing the mirror option greyed out/insensitive and disabled07:37
ochosielfy: so i have a clean 15.04 system again now, i'll start digging into the xfpm issue07:46
ochosihmm, uncool, i can't reproduce the problem :'(07:50
ochosiit built and installed fine and now the plugin is displaying just fine and i get all the warning output you didn't get07:50
Unit193ochosi: Mmm, I see.10:29
ochosiso yeah, i dunno, it seems easy enough to backport, then again, it's not a huge problem if we don't10:34
bluesabreochosi: yeah, I'll take a look at that this weekend11:08
bluesabreat some point I'd like to get my wife a monitor so I can have a second one to work with at all times11:08
bluesabre*a new monitor11:08
ochosithat sounds like a good plan11:20
ochositwo monitors really increase the productivity in my experience11:20
ochosibluesabre: either way, you said you were gonna merge the greeter branches?11:20
ochosii think the more crucial one i linked to before in #shimmer is ok to merge, since it has been externally tested by someone who had that exact problem11:21
ochosithe other (more cosmetic one) about the infobar i can test and report back11:21
ochosii guess first i'll have to try to reproduce the issue11:21
ochosiUnit193: so just to be sure, you don't see the grey panel issue with Numix in 15.04?11:24
Unit193If I look I do.11:25
Unit193If I don't look, I don't see it.11:25
ochosik :)11:25
ochosiwell, the readability is not ideal11:25
ochosibut that's a more general issue with the transparent panel in Numix when it works as it should too11:25
ochosiit's not at all failure-proof, but actually setting all background elements in the greeter to transparent looks quite nice11:31
ochosi(failure proof in the readability sense)11:31
bluesabreochosi: yeah, that's the plan11:40
bluesabrework time, bbl11:57
bluesabredid one sync this morning11:58
bluesabrebad sean11:58
bluesabre>.<11:58
ochosibluesabre: well one is better than none12:02
ochosihave a nice day!12:02
lderanbluesabre: do not regret getting my 2nd monitor. tho it barely fits on my desk at home :P12:05
bluesabreI use two at work, its a good experience12:15
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Unit193For anyone asking, xubuntu-core was named that sometime before trusty for Xubuntu, and was following a naming scheme created in 2010. :P21:55
mrkrampsand you do not want to switch to Xubuntu Basic?21:55
Unit193Well, not against it, but don't want to do the effort of renaming just because Ubuntu named something 'Core' now as well.21:57
drcThe sue them, claiming Prior Art....21:59
mrkrampsactually i do not care about the naming, i know what is meant and i am just happy to see you found a simple solution for the default applications discussion22:01
drcCahnging names in mid-stream is not fun...Just ask Ikey Doherty, the creater of EvolveOS...er...Solus Project.22:01
Unit193drc: Or, trying to make the upgrade path work for the rename, changing it everywhere, and keeping a smooth transition? :P22:02
drcWell, it was in beta (alpha really, imo), so that made it a bit easier.22:04
drcI think he had more problems with social media accounts :)22:04
mrkrampsand the domains22:05
mrkrampsbtw. did you shutdown the 4.10 PPA for 12.04?22:06
Unit193Me specifically?  No, but yes it was shut down.  Xubuntu Precise went EOL.22:07
mrkrampsok, thanks for the information22:07
Unit193!precise-#xubuntu22:07
ubottuXubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) reached End-of-Life April 26, 2015: http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-12-04-end-of-life/22:07
ochosiUnit193: i had already written a paragraph about our naming being done earlier than ubuntu, but in the end it felt too petty so i kicked the paragraph out22:11
Unit193Sure, makes sense.  drc also noted that there is no GUI software manager, and perhaps we should have noted that (I agree, in hindsight. :P )22:12
mrkrampshell, no USC?! =D22:12
Unit193Hah, that's not core, that's frilly.22:13
ochosiwell yeah, the default software could've been listed22:20
ochosibut anyway, i think the announcement was ok, all in all22:20
ochosialrighty, gotta go, i'll be pretty much offline for a week now22:20
ochosiso enjoy your time, peeps!22:20
ochosiand have a productive meeting on tuesday22:21
ochosii'll set up some blueprints when i'm back, if any of you wanna start on that (sorry i didn't manage today), feel free to go ahead22:21
Unit193ochosi: Yep, decent indeed.  Have fun!22:22
Unit193Also, size breakdown: http://paste.openstack.org/show/MS3PjOASmkgPCbxg65xS22:22
Unit193Noskcaj: Can you convince darkxst to fix yelp to only suggest gnome-user-guide?22:24
micahgnot likely, recommends is appropriate22:25
micahgit's its documentation isn't it?22:26
Unit193micahg: 'yelp' is a help viewer, gnome-user-guide is the manual for GNOME.  Other applications use yelp to display help (evince, etc)22:27
micahgisn't yelp part of core GNOME?22:27
micahghence, it's its documentation?22:27
Unit193'yelp' is the help browser for GNOME, but ships its own documentation it the yelp package.22:28
micahgoh, if it ships its own docs separately, than suggests would be fine22:28
Unit193And even, the default page is help:ubuntu-help/index which isn't even in suggests.22:29
micahgISTR fixing that before actually22:30
Unit193:/22:31
Unit193micahg: It's kind of large, and useless to Xubuntu.22:31
micahg * Recommend gnome-user-guide. Closes: #528017.22:33
micahgdebian bug 52801722:34
ubottuDebian bug 528017 in yelp "yelp: Help -> Contents does not work" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/52801722:34
micahghaha, that's why it's there :)22:34
micahgif the facts on the ground have changed, so should the recommends :)22:34
Unit193There is no 'help' menu...22:34
Unit193...That I can see.22:34
Unit193F1 is non-act.22:35
Unit193Maybe in GNOME it does, and of course when you open yelp it's expecting ubuntu-docs to be installed, but it's not actually any sort of issue that it isn't.22:37
micahgoh, haha, maybe that's what I fixed22:37
Unit193I wish blacklists worked better. :/22:37

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