[08:08] <vip> hi ho
[10:22] <soee> Riddell: ping
[10:36] <ovidiu-florin> soee: Riddell is on hollydays
[10:36] <soee> ovidiu-florin: ok thanks for the info
[10:36] <ovidiu-florin> ;)
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:03] <soee> BluesKaj: can you confirm one bug and comment https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347466 ?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> soee, on 15.04?
[12:14] <BluesKaj> soee, on 15.10 here now, show desktop is fine here though
[12:21] <soee_> BluesKaj: when screen is locked you dont see minimized apps ?
[12:21] <soee_> btw BluesKaj how the upgrade to 15.10 went ?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> the upgrade went very well, there are few new packages so the OS is still mostly 15.04 IMO
[12:23] <ari-tczew> hi, is there anyone who uses konversation on vivid?
[12:24] <soee_> ari-tczew: yes
[12:24] <BluesKaj> I don't lock screens or use 'show desktop', soee_ as a rule
[12:24] <ari-tczew> soee_: how it looks on your plasma? is everything visible?
[12:25] <BluesKaj> ari-tczew, yes, I'm talking to you on it :-)
[12:25] <soee_> ari-tczew: i cant complain :)
[12:25] <BluesKaj> working fine here too, ari-tczew
[12:26] <BluesKaj> ari-tczew, plasma 5.2? or 5.3
[12:26] <ari-tczew> soee_, BluesKaj: I'm having trouble with maximize a window
[12:27] <ari-tczew> BluesKaj: 5.2.2, fresh vivid install
[12:27] <soee_> what kind of problem ?
[12:27] <soee_> ari-tczew: also upgrade to Plasma 5.3 and Application 15.04
[12:28] <ari-tczew> soee_: from extra ppa? 
[12:30] <soee_> ari-tczew: backports https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[12:30] <BluesKaj> ari-tczew, suggest you install 5.3 with this ppa, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[12:30] <BluesKaj> oops :-)
[12:31] <ari-tczew> soee_: look on screenshot, I see no buttons on bottom http://imgur.com/jJxiqR8
[12:31] <ari-tczew> like Apply, OK or whatever
[12:31] <ari-tczew> (konversation settings)
[12:32] <soee_> ari-tczew: than minimize a bit this window, you have very small sceen
[12:32] <soee_> *screen
[12:33] <ari-tczew> soee_: it doesn't matter
[12:33] <soee_> huh ? :)
[12:33] <ari-tczew> soee_: sorry, this is a screenshot after maximize http://imgur.com/7M3ji3k
[12:34] <ari-tczew> I see no top and bottom
[12:34] <soee_> ari-tczew: becouse your panels are configured to cover apps
[12:35] <BluesKaj> ari-tczew, have you updated and upgraded since your install?
[12:35] <soee_> go to panel settings and check if "Applications go below" option is checked
[12:37] <ari-tczew> soee_: huh, I've to change language. There is checked "always visible".
[12:38] <ari-tczew> BluesKaj: the software is up-to-date
[12:38] <ari-tczew> I'll try to install plasma 5.3 from kubuntu-ppa
[12:38] <soee_> ari-tczew: the problem you have only with onversation ?
[12:39] <ari-tczew> soee_: I think so
[12:39] <BluesKaj> ari-tczew, ok , I know it's the obvious question , but I have to ask it. 
[12:39] <soee_> ari-tczew: so one more thing click on window dectioation More Actions -> Special Application Settings and check in each tab
[12:40] <soee_> if you have any special rules defined for this app
[12:43] <ari-tczew> soee_: after fresh install, I've copied config file from backup of /home/
[12:43] <ari-tczew> maybe there is a bug
[12:47] <ari-tczew> from ~/.kde/share/config/konversationrc:
[12:47] <ari-tczew> Height 900=541
[12:47] <ari-tczew> Width 1440=830
[12:48] <ari-tczew> have you such setting there, as well?
[12:48] <soee_> ari-tczew: try to backup this config and remove
[12:49] <ari-tczew> soee_: I'll update packages from kubuntu-ppa repo first
[13:47] <ari-tczew> soee_: I've updated vivid to the kubuntu-ppa. Still the same error.
[13:48] <ari-tczew> I've tried to delete config file (~/.config/konversationrc) and reproduce bug again. Still exists :/
[13:49] <ari-tczew> I can change the width of window, but height no
[14:14] <ari-tczew> soee_, BluesKaj: Problem fixed (workaround) by forcing a size for a certain window. However, I guess that problem is related to having min. 2 panels.
[15:52] <ovidiu-florin> hello sick_rimmit
[15:52] <ovidiu-florin> wellcome back to the interwebs
[16:19]  * sick_rimmit Tada..
[16:20] <sick_rimmit> I am here really, just been doing DIY for my Wife :-)
[16:20] <sick_rimmit> ovidiu-florin: Hello there
[16:24] <mparillo> ari-tczew: I have the same problem with Konversation on my netbook. I cannot see the apply button when I configure Konversation.
[16:25] <ari-tczew> mparillo: how many panels do you have?
[16:25] <mparillo> ari-tczew: Sometimes I can get the mouse pointer to become a four-cornered star (I am sorry, I am uncertain how I get it that way), and I can drag the configuration window up off my screen until I can see the apply button.
[16:25] <ari-tczew> Cause I guess problem is related to panels
[16:25] <mparillo> One physical screen on my netbook not connected to an external monitor. I have not really used activities on Plasma 5, and never used virtual desktops on KDE.
[16:26] <mparillo> For me it is that the configuration panel for Konversation has no scrollbar, so it is taller than my netbook screen.
[16:26] <ari-tczew> mparillo: No, I don't mean screens. I mean panels.
[16:27] <ari-tczew> Did you add more? Default is one panel created.
[16:27] <mparillo> I only have the default panel at the bottom.
[16:28] <ari-tczew> mparillo: OK, than it's not related to panels.
[16:28] <ari-tczew> mparillo: You can try to set a fix resolution for configuration window of konversation.
[16:30] <mparillo> I did not know I could do that, but as I said, somehow I got my mouse to be able to drag the configuration window up so the top half was off-screen, and I could see the Cancel, Apply and OK buttons.
[16:30] <ari-tczew> Anyway it's not normal.
[16:31] <ovidiu-florin> sick_rimmit: doing "DIY for your wife" that has a bunch of meanings
[16:32] <ari-tczew> mparillo: Click right-mouse-button on the top of Configure window -> More activities -> Additional window configuration
[16:32] <sick_rimmit> ovidiu-florin: lol
[16:32] <sick_rimmit> ovidiu-florin: How you doing today ?
[16:32] <ari-tczew> mparillo: then you can set a fix size of window (2nd option)
[16:33] <ovidiu-florin> writing an article about migrating from LVM to BTRFS
[16:33] <ovidiu-florin> just finished the romanian version
[16:33] <ovidiu-florin> I was just starting to translate to english
[16:36] <mparillo> ari-tczew: Very cool, thank you.
[16:39] <ari-tczew> mparillo: You're welcome.
[16:50] <ovidiu-florin> "document myself" or "documment myself"  ?
[16:50] <ovidiu-florin> one or 2 'm's?
[16:50] <ahoneybun> one
[16:50] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[16:52] <ovidiu-florin> is there an english expression for starting to study seriously?
[16:54] <ahoneybun> study hard, 
[16:54] <ahoneybun> for one
[16:55] <ahoneybun> wait
[16:55] <ahoneybun> there is a word, can't think of the spelling
[16:57] <ahoneybun> "I began studying rigorously"
[16:57] <ahoneybun> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rigorous
[16:58] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: translation from romanian expression: https://translate.google.ro/#ro/en/m-am%20pus%20cu%20burta%20pe%20carte
[16:58] <ovidiu-florin> :))))
[16:59] <ahoneybun> what the
[16:59] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[17:00] <ovidiu-florin> direct translation would actually be I've put my belly on the book
[17:28] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: where's that guy that helped you with your css? Rob, his nick was something with E
[18:15] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: eth something
[18:16] <ahoneybun> Etriaph
[20:33] <ovidiu-florin> Etriaph: ping
[20:33] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: ping
[20:33] <ahoneybun> png
[20:34] <ovidiu-florin> can you please review an article before I publish it?
[20:35] <ahoneybun> sure
[20:35] <ovidiu-florin> http://ovidiu.geekaliens.com/en/2015/05/09/migrating-from-lvm-to-btrfs/
[20:35] <ovidiu-florin> pass: review
[20:37] <ahoneybun> After I’ve been using LVM = After using LVM
[20:38] <ahoneybun> and performed all sorts = and performing all sortss
[20:40] <ahoneybun> I’m not going to write here a tutorial with what’s BTRFS  =Like I said earier this is not a tutorial on how to use BTRFS 
[20:40] <ovidiu-florin> good catch
[20:41] <ahoneybun> ,but I’m telling you, give it a try = I'm just encouraging you to give it a spin
[20:42] <ahoneybun> Either I’ve asked them or I’ve read somewhere that they haven’t declared it stable, even though they have been using it for a while and I’ve even heard that some companies use it in production.  'this would be a run on sentence ex. very long sentence
[20:43] <ahoneybun> writing a better one
[20:45] <ahoneybun> From reading and asking developers about it both result in "It's not stable". Though companies are using it on their production systems.
[20:45]  * ahoneybun moves this to PM
[20:45] <ovidiu-florin> why?
[20:45] <ovidiu-florin> spam
[20:45] <ovidiu-florin> yeah, you're right
[21:32] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: Hey, sorry, block BBQ going on today, not always at my desk
[21:32] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: What's up?
[21:32] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: Oh, sorry, just read, one sec
[21:37] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: It looks just fine at the time I viewed it.  Are you running BTRFS full time now?
[21:52] <ovidiu-florin> Etriaph: yes, for some time now
[21:55] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: I'm assuming you're enjoying it?  :D
[21:56] <ovidiu-florin> so far, yes
[22:00] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: Is it much of a speed improvement over LVM?
[22:04]  * Etriaph is thinking of it for his SSD too.
[22:04] <Etriaph> bbiab, need to transport salad.
[22:06] <ovidiu-florin> Etriaph: I have no idea
[22:06] <ovidiu-florin> I haven't tested that
[22:14] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun, Etriaph published :D
[22:18] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: Keep raising awareness ovidiu-florin; I have a site going online in Sept. for all the different kinds of code I write, and promoting KDE.
[22:27] <ovidiu-florin> awesome, send us the link