[00:29] <gunndawg_> Thinking of firing up a virtual machine to do some testing. What do you guys recommend? VMWare or Virtual Box?
[00:55] <gunndawg_> any suggestions? VMWare or Virtual Box?
[01:11] <OerHeks> gunndawg_, KVM
[01:11] <OerHeks> or virtualbox
[01:38] <Dragnslcr> gunndawg_: the libvirt tools are very helpful
[01:54] <gunndawg_> Dragnslcr: so you're saying dont use vmware or virtual box?
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> gunndawg_: kvm has worked well for me
[02:19] <gunndawg_> I'll look into it. Would really like to get a VM up
[02:20] <Dragnslcr> virt-install is good for creating a VM, then you can use virsh to manage it
[02:21] <Dragnslcr> They're both part of libvirt, which is a wrapper library for kvm
[02:30] <gunndawg> so I installed KVM
[02:30] <gunndawg> and the GUI tool
[02:31] <gunndawg> setting up the VM I have selected the ISO and OS type (linux) but it wants a Version. I am installing and testing Arch. Not sure what version to select for Arch
[03:45] <cjwelborn> gunndawg: I usually end up searching to find out which Linux Kernel version the distro is based on.
[03:50] <deee> hi
[03:51] <deee> hey  buddy need some help
[03:51] <deee> i just installed the kubuntu 15
[03:51] <deee> am a noob
[03:51] <deee> perhaps i want the windows bootloader as default and not the grub
[03:51] <deee> how do i do tha
[03:52] <deee> that*
[03:56] <deee> guys
[03:56] <deee> anyone
[04:05] <juacom99> dee so you got a double boot in your PC and you want windows to be selected as default i i'm geting it right?
[04:15] <KrakenSkulls> hi. I installed Kubuntu last night. Really liking the new look. I am having an issue with the fonts though. They are pretty fuzzy. I enabled anti-aliasing, is there anything else I can do? Specifically terminal looks janky
[04:16] <KrakenSkulls> maybe I need to install some other ones? It doesn't seem to come with too many monospaced ones
[04:23] <cjwelborn> KrakenSkulls: I use DejaVu Sans Mono for code, but also look at sub-pixel rendering under your font settings. If you pick the correct one it makes a big difference. It did for me anyway.
[04:24] <KrakenSkulls> cjwelborn: thanks! I just tried playing around with subpixel and tried RGB. looks a lot better in firefox
[04:25] <cjwelborn> KrakenSkulls: Also the 'Hinting Style' makes a big difference with 'fuzziness' or when they are too 'sharp'.
[04:26] <cjwelborn> KrakenSkulls: I'm no expert, but the hinting style basically handles how fonts are smoothed out. You can make them bolder, sharper, blurrier, etc.
[04:26] <KrakenSkulls> do you have to restart the app to see the difference?
[04:26] <cjwelborn> KrakenSkulls: yes
[04:27] <KrakenSkulls> cjwelborn: ahh no wonder!
[04:32] <KrakenSkulls> cjwelborn: BitStream Vera Sans Mono is my favorite coding font. it's free online. gonna give it a whirl now
[04:34] <cjwelborn> KrakenSkulls: cool. fonts are a touchy subject (just like editors) when it comes to programmers. :) As long as it's readable to you.
[04:35] <KrakenSkulls> well it's gotta be monospaced, and there aren't very many of those. Terminal 9pt on Windows is also rad
[04:36] <KrakenSkulls> probably some joker out there who uses Comic Sans though
[04:42] <KrakenSkulls> i solved a weird sound issue by accident last night and i'll divulge the solution for free. i had event sounds but no youtube audio. i had to bring up the mixer, then right click at the top of the correct volume slider. a popup appears and you select "move to <device>", basically reassigning the output to the correct audio device
[04:43] <KrakenSkulls> never would have found that weird hiden popup if i wasnt totally frustrated and just randomly clicking around
[05:19] <shantanu> hi
[06:51] <baizon> hi, i have a question, but im not sure if its a bug. Since my update 14.10 -> 15.04 my audio is different. But i cant tell if its better or worse, its just different. Can someone give me some explanation or show me the right direction where to find some info about it?
[06:54] <KrakenSkulls> baizon:  click on the volume icon in the system tray, then click mixer
[06:54] <baizon> KrakenSkulls: yes, got it
[06:54] <KrakenSkulls> baizon: from there go to settings, and Audio setup
[06:55] <baizon> KrakenSkulls: yes, also got it
[06:55] <KrakenSkulls> baizon: i donno, between that and select master channel, you should be able to change what needs to be changed
[06:55] <baizon> ok, will try that, thanks
[06:56] <KrakenSkulls> maybe it's playing in mono and not stereo
[07:01] <baizon> KrakenSkulls: indeed, it changed to "line-out"
[07:01] <baizon> thank you :)
[07:06] <KrakenSkulls> baizon: awesome!
[07:08] <carlos> intervac
[08:38] <muntrue> Hi there, hope there is someone that can help me. I am trying to launch XCOM from steam (kubuntu 14.04) but its just not launching
[08:39] <muntrue> Here is the steam log http://paste.ubuntu.com/11039886/
[10:12] <noaXess> hello..
[10:12] <noaXess> testing upgrade from 14.10 to 15.04... now.. on 14.10 i used wicd for managing networks.. .. so now in 15.04 it's installed, but can't see any tray icon and network-manager is also available..
[10:13] <noaXess> how to switch to wicd as default network manager?
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:17] <Zevs> hello world
[11:19] <niki_bo> hello world
[12:10] <jayson> utfu
[12:10] <jayson> test
[12:10] <Guest80651> ping
[14:00] <doudou> hi
[14:01] <doudou> can some help me ??
[14:51] <zamazan4ik> hi
[14:52] <zamazan4ik> pls tell me about stability of plasma 5.3
[14:52] <legodude> hey, having kwallet trouble w/ 15.04, never really used before, but korganizer says it cant access kwallet, and trying to run the walletmanager gets me "kwalletmanager(8359)/kdeui (Wallet): The kwalletd service has been disabled "
[15:12] <surfs^> Hi all.
[15:12] <surfs^> How do I disable desktop effects in Kubuntu 15.04 with Plasma 5?
[15:15] <noaXess> tried to upgrade to 15.04 form 14.10 witha asus a76n notebook, dual grafic intel/nvidia, ssd... no luck.. also plasma 5 seams to be not all redy for dayli use
[15:19] <BluesKaj> noaXess, dual grafic intel/nvidia  expalins it , install nvidia-prime
[15:20] <noaXess> i got it ready to work.. but sometimes on boot, it says checking device and then.. system start stopped... maybe also other probs..
[15:21] <BluesKaj> surfs^, kmenu>computer>system settings>desktop behaviour>desktop effects
[15:22] <noaXess> BluesKaj: have you successfull yupgrade fro 14.10?
[15:30] <noaXess> BluesKaj: back now in vivid..
[15:32] <noaXess> BluesKaj: you mean, i should install nvidia-prime now?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> noaXess, yes my upgrade from 14.10 was successful
[15:33] <noaXess> nvidia-prime already installe
[15:47] <kallecarl> surfs^: "How do I disable desktop effects in Kubuntu 15.04 with Plasma 5?"
[15:48] <kallecarl> system settings > desktop behavior > desktop effects
[15:48] <kallecarl> turn them all off
[15:48] <BluesKaj> the intel/nvidia dual gpu system is not easy to setup , and on 15.04 I have no idea other than nvidia-prime, noaXess
[15:48] <kallecarl> you may want to fuss with display and monitor > compositing
[15:52] <BluesKaj> kallecarl, I assumed he knew what to do once he got to desktop effects :-)
[15:53] <kallecarl> BluesKaj: didn't see your reply
[15:53] <kallecarl> apologies
[15:54] <BluesKaj> np
[16:21] <dougl> How can I tell what BT adaptor is in my notebook?
[16:21] <dougl> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03) this is the combo device I put in.
[17:26] <Eslar> Hey there
[17:26] <Eslar> anyone around who could give me a hand?
[17:51] <danielle31> hi all. I'm using the new kubuntu 15.04; love it so far. when I go to send an encrypted message using KMail, I get the error "It was not possible to create a message composer." This only happens using an identity I have set GPG up with. It doesn't happen using an identity I haven't. Any idea what's wrong?
[18:10] <metallic> Hello! I have just met the program "nice" on the shell. What is it useful for? :/
[18:12] <kallecarl> danielle31: https://osdir.com/ml/kdepim-bugs/2013-12/msg00018.html https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332167 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328311
[18:14] <kallecarl> metallic: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+nice+command
[18:17] <metallic> kallecarl: I actually expected someone to tell why would someone use such program but I clicked on one of the links your search gave and now I think no more that this program is useless
[18:17] <metallic> thanks :)
[18:17] <metallic> also... "let me google it for you"? XD
[18:18] <kallecarl> metallic: the way I know about it is someone told it to me
[18:18] <kallecarl> nice is a way to set priorities if some process is interfering with another
[18:19] <metallic> kallecarl: by interfering what do you mean? I understand that it is a way to set the "urgency" of a process
[18:19] <metallic> is it not?
[18:19] <kallecarl> metallic: maybe you want your music player to have priority over everything else
[18:19] <kallecarl> but some indexing program is interfering
[18:19] <kallecarl> making music not play correctly
[18:19] <kallecarl> most users don't need this
[18:20] <kallecarl> particularly on Kubuntu
[18:20] <kallecarl> applications respect each other pretty much
[18:20] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, you shouldn't really need to use nice on a normal desktop computer
[18:20] <metallic> mmm... really?
[18:20] <kallecarl> metallic: it's the Truth
[18:20] <kallecarl> especially if you don't know what it does...better to not mess with it
[18:21] <Dragnslcr> The basic idea is that if you have two programs that can both use 100% of the CPU, you can use nice to control what percentage each program gets to use
[18:21] <metallic> That's what I was thinking to use "nice" for
[18:21] <kallecarl> what programs are using 100% CPU
[18:21] <Dragnslcr> So you could set one program to get 75% of the CPU and the other to get 25% of the CPU
[18:22] <metallic> kallecarl: sometimes I have several things working at the same time and I really would like to set priority on them
[18:22] <Dragnslcr> But a normal desktop computer shouldn't generally be running multiple programs that are that CPU-intensive
[18:22] <kallecarl> okay be careful though
[18:23] <kallecarl> metallic: what Dragnslcr said
[18:23] <metallic> I will, I learned a new thing :)
[18:23] <kallecarl> yes when you run Kubuntu you are automatically nice to the max
[18:23] <metallic> According to my shell the default nice value is 0 :/
[18:24] <metallic> not -20
[18:24] <Dragnslcr> Yup, 0 is considered normal
[18:24] <metallic> Dragnslcr: I meant that for me it is not set "to the maximum"
[18:24] <metallic> )
[18:25] <kallecarl> everyone here is nice B^)
[18:25] <Dragnslcr> No, because everything set to -20 is no different than everything set to 0
[18:25] <Dragnslcr> Everything would still have the same priority
[18:26] <kallecarl> metallic: what are you referring to with "I have several things working at the same time" and you want to set priority
[18:27] <kallecarl> what things? if there's a conflict, it's likely to call for other remedies than setting nice values
[18:28] <kallecarl> okay gotta go... metallic, you're in good hands with Dragnslcr
[18:29] <metallic> kallecarl: Sometimes I have several programs running which require machine resources and I clearly need some more than others. For instance, if I am GNUPLOT for viewing and performing operations on differential equations or such things, meanwhile I have things like the e-mail client, web browser and IRC client and running
[18:29] <metallic> I use*
[18:30] <metallic> The web browser is not so urgent to me, I may need to watch some documentation from time to time. The truth is that I don't think I am going to this this command much
[18:31] <metallic> going to need*
[18:38] <kallecarl> metallic: try it out...you might learn another new thing...also ksysguard (GUI) or top (CLI) will tell you CPU%, there may not be a need to set new nice levels
[18:39] <metallic> When the time comes for me to set priorities on my running programs I will see :)
[18:39] <Dragnslcr> metallic: in that case, you could set your plotting to a lower priority (e.g. renice it to 5), so that the other programs can more easily get the small amount of CPU time that they need
[18:40] <Dragnslcr> But I would only do it if the web browser and email client are noticably unresponsive
[18:40] <metallic> wait, so if I want GNUplot to have more resources I should diminish its niceness? :/
[18:40] <Dragnslcr> No, but none of those other programs require much CPU time
[18:40] <metallic> My laptop is not a very potent machine hehe
[18:40] <Dragnslcr> And you typically want those kinds of programs to be more responsive
[18:41] <Dragnslcr> It doesn't really matter if an hour-long computation takes an extra 10 seconds to finish
[18:42] <metallic> mmm... Well, you sure know more than me
[18:43] <Dragnslcr> I have Konversation taking less than 1% of the CPU. Firefox is taking 16%, but Firefox isn't known for being overly efficient with resource usage
[18:43] <Dragnslcr> I don't have an email client running at the moment, but I doubt it will be using more than 1-2% most of the time
[18:44] <metallic> I guess I should see the amount of resources programs use when I face such situations, as you said
[18:45] <metallic> Thanks to both of you :) Dragnslcr kallecarl, I keep on reading kubuntu's help
[18:46] <Dragnslcr> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_04_03.html#sect_04_03_05_01 has a brief description
[18:50] <metallic> Well, I got the idea, "better do not touch" XD
[18:54] <Ab3L> hi everybody
[19:01] <dougl> Hi
[19:08] <droftware> Do I have to build KDE SC on my system if I am already running Kubuntu ,to do any development activities?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> droftware, best to ask in #kubuntu-devel
[19:57] <metallic> Dragnslcr: I have been taking a look to the link you gave me, I think it suits me perfectly. Thanks, you gave more than you thought
[19:57] <danielle31> kallecarl: thanks thats the bug I'm getting. it looks like it was pushed into 4.12. but I'm using KDE plasma 5.22 in kubuntu :-S
[19:58] <Dragnslcr> No problem, metallic
[21:22] <noaXess> in 15.04 i want use wicd as my default network manager.. how to set it a default?
[21:22] <noaXess> and how to remove network-manager.. that i can get wicd tray back?
[21:30] <LogicalDash> I accidentally merged some contacts in the Telepathy contact list that I shouldn't have. How do I split them back up?
[21:31] <LogicalDash> ...there was a damn button for it
[21:31] <LogicalDash> >_<
[21:47] <kbandicoot> sup people
[21:49] <kbandicoot> exit