[00:03] <hallyn> zul: all right, screw it.  systemd in the container doesn't want to restart jobs.  ship it!
[01:19] <Abe_> hey, i booted the ubuntu server installation iso from a usb flash drive but it's trying to detect and mount a cd-rom, possible to do it to the usb flash drive?
[02:33] <zul> hallyn: first thing monday
[14:30] <collizion> Odd. I've got a 14.04.2 server (fresh install) where resolvconf isn't creating any entries in /etc/resolv.conf. The symlink exists, and it will place the "this file gets clobbered by resolvconf" header in it every time, but it won't insert the nameservers specified in /etc/network/interfaces.
[14:50] <Patrickdk>  well, then your /etc/network/interfaces isn't set right
[14:51] <collizion> Patrickdk: Please enlighten me as to how you came to that conclusion, considering the ubuntu installer configured it itself, and I haven't touched those lines.
[14:53] <Patrickdk> what does any of that have to do with it?
[14:53] <collizion> Patrickdk: ... The Ubuntu installer configured the contents of /etc/network/interfaces, and one would assume the installer knows how to do it properly. Thus your statement that it isn't set right seems a bit presumptuous.
[14:53] <Patrickdk> heh?
[14:54] <Patrickdk> there are only two options
[14:54] <Patrickdk> resolvconf is broken
[14:54] <Patrickdk> or /etc/network/interfaces is not right
[14:54] <Patrickdk> both resolvconf and installer can have bugs
[14:54] <Patrickdk> and someone has to tell the installer what to put into it
[14:54] <Patrickdk> be it dhcp or static config
[14:54] <collizion> Patrickdk: Then it would seem that resolvconf isn't functioning properly in this instance.
[14:55] <Patrickdk> heh? I can't claim that, I cannot see your interfaces file
[14:55] <collizion> Patrickdk: You haven't asked to see it, either. You're making assumptions.
[14:55] <Patrickdk> yes, due to the lack of supplied infomation
[14:55] <Patrickdk> what did you want me to say? nothing?
[14:55] <Patrickdk> and let you not have any help at all?
[14:56] <Patrickdk> based on the information supplied, your /etc/network/interfaces is probably not right
[14:56] <collizion> Patrickdk: Or... ya know... Ask. That's why there's a question mark on your keyboard. "Hey, I'd like to help. Can I see your interfaces file?"
[14:56] <Patrickdk> na, no point, you told me twice it's perfect
[14:56] <Patrickdk> and can't be wrong
[14:57] <Patrickdk> and you never asked for help
[14:57] <collizion> Patrickdk: I think you need to get some sleep or take a vacation or something.
[14:57] <Patrickdk> so why would I respond assuming you wanted that
[15:04] <collizion> Patrickdk: if you're curious, the answer seems to be that if there is a secondary IP address specified for the interface in /etc/network/interfaces, resolvconf seems to latch on to that stanza for configuration rather than the previous. Because there isn't any DNS information specified for the secondary entry, it sets an empty /etc/resolv.conf file.
[15:06] <collizion> Does Ubuntu prefer a specific method for adding a secondary IP address other than the iproute2 method of adding a second "iface eth0 inet static" stanza with just an address?
[15:08] <Patrickdk> that is not valid
[15:09] <collizion> Patrickdk: It works just fine in terms of setting the addresses, but resolvconf doesn't like it.
[15:09] <collizion> Manual /etc/resolv.conf it is.
[15:09] <Patrickdk> ya, cause the parser is forgiving, but resolvconf isn't as much
[15:10] <Patrickdk> iface eth1:7020 inet static
[15:13] <collizion> Patrickdk: I believe that interface aliases are deprecated.
[15:14] <Patrickdk> likely
[15:14] <Patrickdk> but then the arp command has been deprecated for >10years
[15:14] <Patrickdk> and ip neigh has been deprecated for 5years
[15:14] <Patrickdk> so there is no non-deprecated to do proxyarp or arp stuff anymore in linux
[15:15] <collizion> Patrickdk: iproute2 is fine with multiple stanzas with the same interface name, treats them as one. resolvconf just doesn't like it all. I think the present alternative is to add up/down lines to the interface stanza so that ip addr adds/deletes the secondary IP on ifup/ifdown.
[15:15] <collizion> Patrickdk: Which did solve the issue.
[15:15] <Patrickdk> yes, you can do ip addr add
[15:15] <Patrickdk> that works
[15:15] <Patrickdk> but if you atleast use depreciated ifconfig, like lots of tools still use
[15:15] <Patrickdk> you will never see it
[15:16] <Patrickdk> unless you use, label eth0:xxxx
[15:16] <Patrickdk> and then your back to aliases
[15:16] <collizion> Patrickdk: It's fixed/working now without using an alias.
[15:16] <Patrickdk> but then, ifconfig is depresiated too
[19:22] <ReScO> hey people!
[19:42] <collizion> sup
[19:58] <arcsky> anyone know a mangment tool for my ubuntu servers like windows SSCM ?
[19:59] <bekks> Whats "SSCM"?
[19:59] <Patrickdk> bash
[20:00] <Patrickdk> puppet?