[01:15] <bluesabre> Unit193: you want to be the sponsoree for the things on xfce.html?
[01:16] <Unit193> Unless they break! :P
[01:29] <bluesabre> you get your name on all of them then ;)
[01:29] <Unit193> Hah, thanks.
[01:32] <Noskcaj> Unit193, Yelp is ubuntu-desktop stuff, which is pretty hard to get changes. I'll have a look though
[01:33] <Unit193> You did the last merge, talked a bit to Mica too.
[01:33] <Noskcaj> reading the backlog, maybe not that easy
[01:42] <Unit193> pleia2: Heh, your Wily Warewolf looks a little too cuddily there! ;)
[01:44] <Unit193> bluesabre: I presume you saw https://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thunar/news/20150506T220421Z.html land.
[01:46]  * bluesabre has now subscribed to that ML
[01:47] <Unit193> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-xfce-devel/2015-May/thread.html ?
[01:51] <bluesabre> supposedly I'm already on that list
[01:52] <bluesabre> wonder if I have a broken filter somewhere
[01:53] <bluesabre> I'll finish up the syncs in my packageset in the morning
[01:53] <bluesabre> haven't a hard time staying on task :)
[01:53] <bluesabre> and typing
[01:53] <bluesabre> *having
[01:53] <bluesabre> :D
[01:54] <bluesabre> night all
[01:54] <Unit193> G'nighty!
[02:21] <pleia2> fluffy werewolf <3
[02:27] <Unit193> :)
[02:27] <drc> https://www.google.com/search?q=fluffy+werewolf&client=ubuntu&hs=t7G&channel=fs&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=PnBNVYXOHIbutQXH54HIDw&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1123&bih=741#imgrc=soWL3OD4GmzCzM%253A%3BMITWhuZB4i3jbM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ffc00.deviantart.net%252Ffs70%252Fi%252F2012%252F207%252F0%252F3%252Fwerewolf_octavia___by_ridgetail95-d58pg75.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fridgetail95.deviantart.com%252Fart%252FWerewolf-Octavia-316955201%3B900%3B643
[02:27] <drc> woah...sorry :(
[02:29] <drc> And with that faux pas I'm out :(
[02:37] <Logan> noooooo
[02:38] <Logan> Unit193: thoughts on what I mentioned in #ubuntu-devel?
[02:43] <Unit193> Hmm?
[02:44] <Logan> Unit193: thoughts on what I mentioned in #ubuntu-devel? :P
[02:47] <Unit193> Sure! :P
[02:47] <Logan> :|
[02:51] <Unit193> Don't like the new dep it'd bring, but udd is the logical choice. :/
[02:53] <Unit193> Well...  Not too bad for python3-psycopg2 actually...
[02:55] <Unit193> Logan: Could join 'em in #debian-qa.
[02:56] <Logan> I just don't know if I like the idea of querying a database every time you need to find the source package
[02:56] <Unit193> How fast is it?
[02:59] <Unit193> What's the PTS use?
[03:15] <Logan> Unit193: 0m0.906s
[03:36] <Logan> Unit193: I'm sleeping soon, but feel free to comment on Bug 1453330 :)
[03:37] <Unit193> Whaaat?
[04:06] <Logan> Unit193: what? :P
[08:14] <elfy> assuming I've done it properly - dailies are now up 
[08:15] <Hudsonkem> anybody there?
[08:16] <elfy> yes
[08:16] <Hudsonkem> :) about "tearing", any expect?
[08:17] <elfy> you want #xubuntu - that's the support channel
[08:17] <Hudsonkem> no, ^^, just asking if is there a plain about that
[08:18] <Hudsonkem> beta code of "xfwm4"
[08:20] <brainwash> Hudsonkem: maybe, but not until 15.10 (or even 16.04)
[08:24] <Hudsonkem> got it thx
[08:25] <Hudsonkem> do you know if 15.10 come with kernel 4.0.2 stable?
[08:26] <brainwash> you mean 4.2, probably
[08:26] <Hudsonkem> 4.0.2-040002-generic :D
[08:27] <elfy> Hudsonkem: watch the kernel team meetings - they are usually weekly https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[08:28] <elfy> currently wily is still more or less vivid 
[08:28] <Hudsonkem> haha 
[08:32] <Hudsonkem> going here, cya good morning :P
[10:46] <bluesabre> good morning folks
[10:46] <elfy> hi bluesabre 
[10:50] <bluesabre> hey elfy
[10:52] <elfy> bluesabre: not sure on your thoughts re package testing this cycle - mine are - it was a waste of time setting it up last cycle 
[10:53] <bluesabre> yeah, did a lot of prep for so few people doing anything with it
[10:53] <elfy> we'd be better off concentrating on images 
[10:53] <elfy> and just mail list fairly often - making sure people wily tag bug reports when they report something
[10:54] <bluesabre> yeah, good idea
[10:55] <elfy> personally I think we get more traction from pinging the social media 
[10:57] <bluesabre> yeah, we've got a pretty strong following on twitter and g+
[10:57] <elfy> right - didn't know that - don't really follow either much
[10:58] <elfy> if that's where the following is - makes sense to go there :D
[10:58] <bluesabre> mhm
[11:00] <bluesabre> going to upload a thunar package to -staging in a little bit
[11:00] <bluesabre> want to make sure this bug isn't present https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1014632
[11:00] <elfy> I've not got any ppa's set up yet
[11:00] <bluesabre> I'll check myself, but if you want to review it too... :)
[11:01] <elfy> will do :)
[11:01] <elfy> well - currently I see all the partitions - both unmounted and mounted ones
[11:02] <elfy> has someone said it's back? 
[11:03] <bluesabre> no, but we're investigating if we can use the debian version and drop our patch
[11:03] <elfy> aah - right 
[11:04] <elfy> well - as soon as the ppa's have wily I'll grab them
[11:04] <bluesabre> yup
[11:05] <bluesabre> uploaded to -staging to vivid and wily, should be built before too long
[11:05] <elfy> okey doke 
[11:05] <bluesabre> thanks :)
[11:10] <bluesabre> when you do test, be sure to remove udisks2
[11:11] <bluesabre> and restart
[11:11] <bluesabre> for good measure :)
[11:11] <elfy> ok :)
[11:38] <bluesabre> !info automake wily
[11:38] <bluesabre> :'(
[11:38] <bluesabre> Unit193333333333333
[11:50] <bluesabre> elfy: maybe don't remove udisks2
[11:50] <bluesabre> since gvfs seems to depend on it nowadays
[11:51] <bluesabre> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[11:51] <bluesabre>   gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-daemons gvfs-fuse software-center udisks2
[11:51] <bluesabre> :\
[11:51] <bluesabre> I wonder if something else pulls in gvfs in the seed
[11:56] <bluesabre> it is pulled with the seed at least
[11:56] <bluesabre>  * (gvfs-fuse)			# let non-GNOME apps see GVFS via fuse
[11:56] <bluesabre>  * (gvfs-backends)      # otherwise no network tab
[11:57] <bluesabre> I think... still not sure what the parentheses do
[11:57] <bluesabre> Unit193: halp
[12:03] <bluesabre> anyway, current sync status
[12:03] <bluesabre> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11042420/
[14:57] <Unit193> bluesabre: Nono, the point is *thunar* doesn't need udisks directly because it uses gvfs, and it is gvfs that uses udisks.
[14:58] <Unit193> bluesabre: And those mean recommeneds.
[15:12] <Unit193> bluesabre: http://paste.openstack.org/show/UA3hc2buFKnBaeH5BXnF
[17:09] <Unit193> slickymaster: https://unit193.net/xubuntu/docs/C/appendix-packages.html needs updating for wily, as do the ents.
[18:21] <Unit193> Logan: Pokepoke?
[18:49] <Logan> Unit193: yo
[18:49] <Unit193> Awesome!
[18:50] <Unit193> Perhaps this?  https://sigma.unit193.net/source/dvdstyler_2.9.2-0ubuntu1.dsc  The one in there now is pretty foobered so I heard.
[18:50] <Logan> wat
[18:51] <Unit193> Fixes lots of bugs, not sure how usable the one in Ubuntu is right now even.  This package is native to Ubuntu, so I get to change more. :D
[19:06] <Unit193> Logan: It's only in the ubuntustudio-video task and in universe so low impact, and also poked studio about it.
[19:09] <Logan> Unit193: I'll take a look
[19:12] <Logan> Unit193: dpkg-source: error: file ./dvdstyler_2.9.2-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.xz has size 8312 instead of expected 8316
[19:12] <Logan> download problem, maybe?
[19:12] <Logan> I'll try it again
[19:12] <Logan> no, same thing
[19:13] <Unit193> Noticed I removed a build-dep used in a d/rules "hack" but not the hack itself.  Redownload the .dsc?
[19:13] <Unit193> (In the packaging I did earlier I removed the hack as well, but..)
[19:13] <Logan> worked, thanks
[19:14] <Unit193> Sorry.
[19:15] <Logan> I forgive you
[19:17] <Logan> ugh
[19:18] <Logan> my Ubuntu VM keeps using WAY more memory than it's supposed to
[19:18] <Unit193> Limiting isn't working?  Can't chroot what you need?
[19:21] <Logan> I allocate 2 GB of memory to the VM
[19:21] <Logan> right now the vmware-vmx process on my Mac is using 11.87 GB of RAM
[19:22] <Unit193> Geeez..
[19:22] <Logan> I never had this problem with VirtualBox
[19:22] <Logan> might just switch back to it
[19:24] <Logan> but it didn't work properly with my Retina display
[19:24] <Logan> :|
[19:24] <Unit193> Try the beta?
[19:25] <Logan> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/10860?cversion=0&cnum_hist=4
[19:25] <Logan> unresolved
[19:25] <Logan> anyway, your dvdstyler runs
[19:26] <Logan> I can't test it fully because I don't have an optical drive or a blank DVD
[19:26] <Logan> but I'm sure it's better than what's there
[19:26] <Unit193> Yep, so kn ome says.
[19:26] <Unit193> (Built it for him)
[19:28] <Logan> looks good for me, I'll upload
[19:28] <Logan> *to me
[19:29] <Unit193> Great!  Thanks.
[19:32] <Logan> Unit193: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dvdstyler/2.9.2-0ubuntu1
[19:33] <Unit193> \o/
[21:51] <Logan> Unit193: https://communities.vmware.com/message/2505485#2505485 (in case it interests you) :P
[21:52] <Logan> it's crazy how much it uses
[21:53] <Unit193> Nice!
[21:53] <Unit193> Geeeez.
[21:53] <Logan> I got my license for VMware Fusion through my school, and thus it doesn't have a support license
[21:54] <Unit193> Eh, but that's not a small bug.
[21:54] <Unit193> That's the cookie monster going to town on your ram.
[21:54] <Logan> heh, yep :P
[21:54] <Logan> I just wish I could file a support ticket
[21:54] <Logan> community forums usually don't lead to...results
[21:55] <Unit193> Can't file bugs then?
[21:56] <Logan> right
[21:56] <Logan> silly non-open source model :P
[22:22] <elaurens> Hey everyone. I'm a new linux user and wanted to say hi :)
[22:23] <Unit193> Howdy.
[22:23] <Unit193> Logan: I've seen bugtrackers for closed source applications! :P
[22:23] <elaurens> Everything good so far. Got everything set up
[22:24] <elaurens> First steps into leaving my Windows administration background behind and trying to move towards linux administration 
[22:26] <elaurens> Still trying to figure out how I can make my contribution to this community
[22:27] <elaurens> Not a coder, but could do help with translation (Dutch/French) and bug testing
[22:27] <drc> elaurens: start here   http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[22:27] <elaurens> Is there a particular way to sign up for those?
[22:27] <elaurens> Great. Ty :)
[22:29] <elaurens> I've already been there but didn't read up to the part where I need to contact the team's leaders
[22:29] <elaurens> Will do that
[22:30] <Unit193> slickymaster does docs, and that's one of the things needing some translators.
[22:35] <elaurens> Thx for the tip. Will contact him/her.
[23:24] <Unit193> Logan: So how afraid are you of delta and "breaking" GPL are you? :D
[23:24] <Logan> wat
[23:33] <Unit193> Kind of would like to add TLS support to Icecast2, but GPL2.
[23:34] <Unit193> Seems wget doesn't have the exception, but appears to link against OpenSSL.