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* PaulW2U summaries to go - 5 | 11:39 | |
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PaulW2U | summaries finished | 18:08 |
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pleia2 | :D | 18:20 |
pleia2 | thanks PaulW2U | 18:20 |
pleia2 | this is a good issue <3 | 18:50 |
PaulW2U | Yes, more community, less Canonical :) | 18:52 |
* pleia2 nods | 18:52 | |
* pleia2 unhelpfully adds two more press articles | 18:56 | |
pleia2 | I can write summaries after doing stats ;) | 18:57 |
pleia2 | Unit193: link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue416 | 19:16 |
pleia2 | and sent to the editors early \o/ | 19:16 |
Unit193 | https://launchpad.net/~gustavosantaremsilva borked, http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Ubuntu-15-10-to-Be-Called-Wily-Werewolf-ff480096.shtml borken. | 19:25 |
Unit193 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/gsilva that's what he links to even. | 19:26 |
Unit193 | https://launchpad.net/~gsilvapt there | 19:27 |
PaulW2U | Unit193: Fixed both links. Try again? | 19:31 |
Unit193 | Oh right. Yep, just the usual now, PaulW2U. | 19:35 |
PaulW2U | Thanks | 19:50 |
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ahoneybun | pleia2: hello | 22:09 |
pleia2 | o/ ahoneybun | 22:09 |
ahoneybun | check this out: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6zAAODZFwQ2SGJCQ1YxRE1IaUU/view?usp=sharing | 22:10 |
pleia2 | what is it? | 22:10 |
ahoneybun | a talk for SELF I'm thinking of doing | 22:11 |
pleia2 | ah | 22:11 |
ahoneybun | about Documentation | 22:11 |
pleia2 | might be worth discussing with the broader ubuntu-doc community, but I think consolidation would be tough sell | 22:12 |
pleia2 | each team already has contributors who are well-versed in their specific formats, and Ubuntu still pulls a fair amount from Gnome (which is why they use Mallard) | 22:12 |
pleia2 | it's a lot of work to move to a new format, and I just don't see the teams having it | 22:12 |
ahoneybun | Mallard? | 22:13 |
pleia2 | ubuntu desktop docs are written in Mallard | 22:13 |
ahoneybun | oh ok | 22:13 |
ahoneybun | I've been focusing on online formats | 22:13 |
pleia2 | ubuntu server is still in docbook (same as xubuntu) | 22:14 |
ahoneybun | I have xubuntu as xml | 22:14 |
ahoneybun | must be docbook = xml | 22:14 |
pleia2 | docbook is a type of xml | 22:14 |
ahoneybun | oh ok | 22:14 |
pleia2 | https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/index.html <-- official online desktop docs generated from Mallard | 22:14 |
ahoneybun | thanks or the correction | 22:14 |
pleia2 | just like docs.xubuntu.org are generated from docbook | 22:15 |
ahoneybun | Ubuntu Deskop Docs - Mallard = HTML | 22:15 |
pleia2 | help.ubuntu.com/community/ is a moinmoin wiki, but most of it isn't well maintained and the docs team doesn't see it as a priority | 22:15 |
pleia2 | well, Mallard, DocBook, LaTeX, etc can all generate HTML | 22:16 |
ahoneybun | Xubuntu - DocBook | 22:16 |
pleia2 | Ubuntu Desktop Docs: Mallard | 22:16 |
pleia2 | Ubuntu Server Docs: DocBook | 22:16 |
pleia2 | Xubuntu Docs: DocBook | 22:16 |
ahoneybun | I've been looking at Sphinx and reStructuredText | 22:16 |
ahoneybun | since it can be outputed at HTML, PDF, and eBook | 22:17 |
pleia2 | that's what OpenStack is moving toward, but there are a lot of paid people working on doing the transition from DocBook, it's a huge project that's taking them months | 22:17 |
Unit193 | Sphinx is used by a lot of Python projects. | 22:17 |
pleia2 | DocBook can too :) that's how the server docs are relased | 22:17 |
pleia2 | Unit193: yeah | 22:18 |
ahoneybun | the main reason I see using a single language is that many projects can help each other out | 22:18 |
ahoneybun | using one language contributation is much easier | 22:18 |
pleia2 | ahoneybun: again, a discussion for #ubuntu-doc, but transitioning to that is a huge, huge project | 22:18 |
pleia2 | it may be easier, but you need buy in from everyone involved, and it's a ton of work :( | 22:18 |
ahoneybun | oh did not know you meant to move it over ther | 22:18 |
pleia2 | it's particularly hard for Ubuntu desktop docs since they still copy stuff over from Gnome+Mallard, so every cycle there's the extra work of translating to RST | 22:20 |
pleia2 | in addition to the initial transition, which all teams would have to do | 22:20 |
pleia2 | they struggle to have enough volunteers to even review documentation for updates, let alone all that other work | 22:21 |
ahoneybun | whois pleia2 | 22:46 |
ahoneybun | lol | 22:46 |
Unit193 | / | 22:47 |
ahoneybun | got it thanks Unit193 | 22:52 |
Unit193 | Heh. :) | 22:53 |
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