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[18:08] <PaulW2U> summaries finished
[18:20] <pleia2> :D
[18:20] <pleia2> thanks PaulW2U
[18:50] <pleia2> this is a good issue <3
[18:52] <PaulW2U> Yes, more community, less Canonical :)
[18:52]  * pleia2 nods
[18:56]  * pleia2 unhelpfully adds two more press articles
[18:57] <pleia2> I can write summaries after doing stats ;)
[19:16] <pleia2> Unit193: link check? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue416
[19:16] <pleia2> and sent to the editors early \o/
[19:25] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~gustavosantaremsilva borked, http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Ubuntu-15-10-to-Be-Called-Wily-Werewolf-ff480096.shtml borken.
[19:26] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/gsilva that's what he links to even.
[19:27] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~gsilvapt there
[19:31] <PaulW2U> Unit193: Fixed both links. Try again?
[19:35] <Unit193> Oh right.  Yep, just the usual now, PaulW2U.
[19:50] <PaulW2U> Thanks
[22:09] <ahoneybun> pleia2: hello
[22:09] <pleia2> o/ ahoneybun
[22:10] <ahoneybun> check this out: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6zAAODZFwQ2SGJCQ1YxRE1IaUU/view?usp=sharing
[22:10] <pleia2> what is it?
[22:11] <ahoneybun> a talk for SELF I'm thinking of doing
[22:11] <pleia2> ah
[22:11] <ahoneybun> about Documentation
[22:12] <pleia2> might be worth discussing with the broader ubuntu-doc community, but I think consolidation would be tough sell
[22:12] <pleia2> each team already has contributors who are well-versed in their specific formats, and Ubuntu still pulls a fair amount from Gnome (which is why they use Mallard)
[22:12] <pleia2> it's a lot of work to move to a new format, and I just don't see the teams having it
[22:13] <ahoneybun> Mallard?
[22:13] <pleia2> ubuntu desktop docs are written in Mallard
[22:13] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[22:13] <ahoneybun> I've been focusing on online formats
[22:14] <pleia2> ubuntu server is still in docbook (same as xubuntu)
[22:14] <ahoneybun> I have xubuntu as xml
[22:14] <ahoneybun> must be docbook = xml
[22:14] <pleia2> docbook is a type of xml
[22:14] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[22:14] <pleia2> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/index.html <-- official online desktop docs generated from Mallard
[22:14] <ahoneybun> thanks or the correction
[22:15] <pleia2> just like docs.xubuntu.org are generated from docbook
[22:15] <ahoneybun> Ubuntu Deskop Docs - Mallard = HTML
[22:15] <pleia2> help.ubuntu.com/community/ is a moinmoin wiki, but most of it isn't well maintained and the docs team doesn't see it as a priority
[22:16] <pleia2> well, Mallard, DocBook, LaTeX, etc can all generate HTML
[22:16] <ahoneybun> Xubuntu - DocBook
[22:16] <pleia2> Ubuntu Desktop Docs: Mallard
[22:16] <pleia2> Ubuntu Server Docs: DocBook
[22:16] <pleia2> Xubuntu Docs: DocBook
[22:16] <ahoneybun> I've been looking at Sphinx and reStructuredText
[22:17] <ahoneybun> since it can be outputed at HTML, PDF, and eBook
[22:17] <pleia2> that's what OpenStack is moving toward, but there are a lot of paid people working on doing the transition from DocBook, it's a huge project that's taking them months
[22:17] <Unit193> Sphinx is used by a lot of Python projects.
[22:17] <pleia2> DocBook can too :) that's how the server docs are relased
[22:18] <pleia2> Unit193: yeah
[22:18] <ahoneybun> the main reason I see using a single language is that many projects can help each other out
[22:18] <ahoneybun> using one language contributation is much easier
[22:18] <pleia2> ahoneybun: again, a discussion for #ubuntu-doc, but transitioning to that is a huge, huge project
[22:18] <pleia2> it may be easier, but you need buy in from everyone involved, and it's a ton of work :(
[22:18] <ahoneybun> oh did not know you meant to move it over ther
[22:20] <pleia2> it's particularly hard for Ubuntu desktop docs since they still copy stuff over from Gnome+Mallard, so every cycle there's the extra work of translating to RST
[22:20] <pleia2> in addition to the initial transition, which all teams would have to do
[22:21] <pleia2> they struggle to have enough volunteers to even review documentation for updates, let alone all that other work
[22:46] <ahoneybun> whois pleia2
[22:46] <ahoneybun> lol
[22:47] <Unit193> /
[22:52] <ahoneybun> got it thanks Unit193
[22:53] <Unit193> Heh. :)