=== m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [09:07] morning boys and girls. [09:08] morning mammals [09:09] morning zmoylan-pi [09:09] o/ [09:10] :) [10:14] morning [10:20] morning mappps [10:44] whats the best lightweight linux desktop? - i am about to install linux on my mum's computer, it is quite old and she does not know much about computers, i waswondering which one is best [10:44] lubuntu is very light and easy on ram [10:45] but best is a variable term and means different things to different people [10:45] xubuntu is what i use on ancient netbook [10:46] yeah i tried lubuntu but the wifi and speakers would not work - on the first intel macbook [11:02] * SuperEngineer has found Ubuntu Mate runs faster & lighter on an old oldbook than Xubuntu did [11:03] *netbook [11:04] & just realised that he/she has asked on several channels - then left after asking - hmmm [11:11] yup [11:21] that's... not good... http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/15/05/10/0936213/enterprise-ssds-powered-off-potentially-lose-data-in-a-week [11:41] zmoylan-pi, don't seee what your complaining about! You gret to keep all your, personal valued stuff & system for up to a week! :D [11:42] and if the police raid your gear for copyright infringement and have a backlog... :-P [11:45] Ah, the totalitarian state discussions [11:45] It does seem the double-whammy doesn't it [11:46] Starve all the poor people and keep all the technorati under surveillance [11:47] well... then you get off scot free & get to bust the police for harassment - with the compensation you could buy yourself a real storage system! ;) [11:47] Barely a whiff of the protests outside Downing Street reported on the BBC [11:49] awilkins, really, still relying on beeb for unbiased news? signed, yours truely, anonymous [hint] [11:49] the bbc is good for reporting on things NOT in the uk [11:50] Oh, no, not since I was in a 50,000 person protest that they reported by putting the camera at a low angle across a narrow road to make it look like a mothers meeting and then gave it a 2 minute slot on the local news [11:51] I FOIAed the coppers for their survellance chopper footage to give an true idea of the scale of the crowd and they go tback to me 6 months later with some terrible stills from what was probably a building surveillance camera [11:51] With a 640x480 CCD in it [11:51] awilkins, unfair! it's budget cuts! they probably couldn't afford a tripod ;) [11:52] or a camera man [11:52] Those choppers have super-HD video cams [11:52] or an unbiased view [11:53] Yeah. The protest movements need to start putting teams on the roofs and flying drones with GoPro cams over the crowd [11:53] It's a sad thing but they need to take care of their own journalism [11:54] Maybe not OVER the crowd [11:54] Last thing they need is a drone falling on someone's head [11:54] Give an excuse to ban them [11:55] Bet the coppers are starting to use drones to monitor protests though [11:56] * SuperEngineer coughs & finds cough sounds like a reminder that this is a family friendly channel, not a political awareness channel [11:57] * penguin42 doesn't think there's anything against politics is there? [11:58] "against politics"? [11:58] lol [11:59] awilkins, I highly recommend the Greg Proops proopcast [aka podcast] for a real look at life [12:00] Well, unless you consider the Tories to not be "family friendly" [12:00] :-P [12:02] * awilkins listens to proopcast on "Pies" [12:08] :) [13:24] right, first important step to making the next batch of chocolate sorbet; finished the previous batch [13:42] it's hard work but someone has to do it... [14:16] hmm, I think I'm going to have to get kitchen scales that have more precision; 1g precision when trying to measure 2g of xanthum gum and 8g of cornflour isn't very good [14:20] there's a shop on moore street that sells scales and cigarette lighters... for no reason connected whatsoever... :-P [14:21] haha [15:32] ello folks [15:35] * penguin42 is watching a BBC programme on the insides of chocolate factories - worrying amount of human interaction with the chocolate [15:35] human interaction with chocolate! [15:35] you can't beat chocolate airated by natural waterfall [15:36] you could whip it I guess [15:36] a decent lash of a whip [15:37] diddledan: Well this is a factory, and they've still got humans just checking the boxes over after the robots (unglobved) and loading the fillings into machines (without gloves) and picking duds off the lines (ungloved) [15:37] :-o [15:37] humans shouldn't be involved. oompa loompas are much more qualified [15:38] Do oompa's have common cold too ? [15:38] nothing common about it! [15:39] very upper-class, my colds [15:40] lol @ mailing list: "I'm doing this through the mailing list as it's not a specific bug report but rather just a general bad mood my phone has developed!" [16:00] Thorntons have got a wonderful machine for making easter eggs - spins the eggs in all directions === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [20:42] can't believe i got sucked in to http://www.reddit.com/r/thebutton [20:43] do you are now dougal in father ted in the cockpit... [20:46] I hope by "sucked in" you don't mean you pressed it [21:11] foobarry, i've not pushed it yet [21:13] damn it.. it got to 11seconds [21:13] then somebody pushed the button [21:13] fool [22:01] evenin [22:08] damnit. power went out for a few seconds [22:09] my APC UPS is moaning (via a red light) that I need to replace the flattery [22:11] i need to get a UPS for this PC [22:11] server closet has UPS [22:11] diddledan: d'aww :( [22:12] can't even get a battery for mine anymore so it's whole unit replacement time if i care to [22:12] :-( [22:12] booo [22:12] well there are some on ebay and amazon but i'm not so sure... [22:13] i thin they're labelled as reconditioned [22:13] yeah that doesn't sound good [22:13] +k [22:14] I donno how long lead-acid really do last [22:15] FFS! [22:15] did it again [22:15] more about how they are stored / duty cycles etc [22:15] next time, i'm sure power will go out properly [22:15] the lcd output says the battery was "installed feb 2012" [22:15] to be honest the software has started periodically losing contact with the USB attached APC UPS, so likely it's gonna die anyway [22:17] what batteries does it take? [22:18] some proprietary thing [22:19] http://www.bechtle.co.uk/medias/uazSVaIeVcKx24M9CBYV58-30.jpg [22:19] like that [22:21] ah [22:21] 'tis a pretty old APC Back-UPS RS 800 [22:21] what. that's two jelly cells with some adapter. [22:21] propbablly two standard seal lead acids in that pack [22:21] mmhmm [22:22] i should probably turn off the mains sometime and see what it does [22:22] i had to replace every other one i got at the same time [22:24] that looks like two standard batteries stuck together [22:25] "standard"? [22:25] lead acid cells perhaps === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away