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grenddaftykins: seems so00:00
grendbusy box built in sheel00:00
grendshell00:00
daftykinsdo you have a Live DVD/USB to hand?00:00
grendsomewhere yes00:00
daftykinsit'd be handy if you could come back from a live session to check that disks health00:00
AR45http://paste.debian.net/174108/00:00
daftykinsany action before knowing if it's ok will likely trash your system00:00
grenddaftykins: so boot life and check hdd state00:01
grendlive00:01
daftykinsyep come on here and i'll give you the commands00:01
daftykinsAR45: look at lines 130 and 13100:02
daftykinsit thinks one is HDMI1 and has 1920x1080, but then HDMI2 it sees 2560x1080 O_O00:02
AR45Hm it isn't HDMI it's DVI.00:03
daftykinsyeah yeah, details :P00:03
daftykinsAR45: can you run "xrandr | pastebinit" ?00:03
daftykinsbe right back00:04
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AR45http://paste.ubuntu.com/11052502/00:04
daftykinsAR45: so identical displays you say, just one is HDMI and one is DVI straight off the motherboard?00:07
AR45yes00:07
daftykinsok one sec00:07
daftykinsAR45: try: xrandr --output HDMI2 --mode 1920x108000:09
AR45daftykins: just so you know the default resolution is 2560 x 108000:10
abdo_loshevening00:10
daftykinsAR45: wait what, so that one is correct but the one that is @ 1920x1080 is wrong?00:10
AR45Yes00:11
AR45The monitor that is displaying at 1920x1080 is connected via DVI00:11
AR45The one at 2560 x 1080 is being displayed00:12
daftykinsAR45: alright, that is a weird resolution. try "xrandr --addmode HDMI1 2560x1080"00:12
AR45on the hdmi00:12
daftykinsAR45: are you using a dual-link DVI cable?00:12
AR45It's called 21:9 aspect ratio00:12
pkzipenfuse has written a very large temp file (200 gig or so). how can i find out where?00:13
pkzipit is not in /tmp00:13
daftykinsuse find / -size blah blah00:13
AR45daftykins: I don't think so.00:13
pkzipdaftykins, i dont know the size00:13
EriC^pkzip: find / -size +140G00:13
daftykinsAR45: that'll be your problem then, unless this works on another OS?00:13
pkzipEriC^, thx00:14
EriC^np00:14
abdo_loshcaja 1.8 : i think the drag+drop issue i was having last night has been fixed by some update pushed tonight.. ftchew00:15
daftykinsAR45: read the writing on the DVI cable and see if it has single/dual link or a value of 160/165MHz - which would make it single link00:15
abdo_loshUSB mouse freezinf sporadically issue remains00:15
daftykinsfor the chewbacca?00:16
dawiissshi guys00:16
daftykinshi00:16
dawiissswhich one of you uses hexchat for irc?00:16
daftykinsjust ask your actual question00:16
dawiisss........00:16
pkzipwasnt there a program like hog or so which shows the largest files on the hd?00:16
dawiisssIs there a way to minimize hexchat to tray in ubuntu??00:17
OerHeks!info baobab00:18
ubottubaobab (source: baobab): GNOME disk usage analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.2-1ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 153 kB, installed size 900 kB00:18
daftykinsdawiisss: if there is, is it not in its' settings?00:19
dawiisssdaftykins: nope00:19
OerHeksdawiisss, just click on the '-'00:19
daftykinsdawiisss: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45793/xchat-disappearing-after-minimize-to-tray00:19
daftykinsgoogle #100:19
AndyDavis!websocketd > AndyDavis00:20
daftykinsAR45: so?00:20
AR45daftykins: nope00:20
dawiisssdaftykins: That's for the old version new version doesn't contain the tray options at all00:21
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shome2Hey all00:21
EriC^hey00:23
daftykinsAR45: er nope to what?00:23
daftykins1) does another OS work fine? 2) identify the cable?00:23
AR45It's Ubuntu and I just bought the cable from the store00:26
shome2Do you guys find that kde seems to be a resource hog ?00:29
daftykinsAR45: so no writing? no packaging detailing whether it's single or dual link? honestly given this is your problem, you don't seem to be helping me out as much as vice versa ;)00:29
shome2More so than unity anyway.00:29
AR45daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11052790/00:30
daftykinswhat's this?00:31
AR45daftykins: here00:32
AR45http://paste.ubuntu.com/11052814/00:32
AR45maybe this is better00:32
daftykinsok so there's an error with my syntax00:34
daftykinsAR45: you _need_ to find out if this cable is single or dual link. there's no point messing around with commands otherwise, it simply won't work00:34
AR45I have DVI-D00:35
daftykinshttp://www.naplestech.com/images/DVI-dual-link-vs-single-link.jpg00:35
daftykinsyou're just typing irrelevant things to me now00:35
AR45Dual Link00:35
EriC^there's no error with the syntax, hdmi1 doesn't have that output00:35
EriC^hdmi2 worked00:35
AR45some times i feel ruhtarded00:36
daftykinswell you're staying silent instead of asking when you don't understand, so there's that00:37
daftykinsah yeah the wrong commands are being run there00:37
EriC^AR45: are you trying to get that resolution on hdmi1?00:37
AR45NO! It's connected via a DVI-D -Dual Link Port.00:38
AR45The other is connected via the HDMI Port.00:38
daftykinsi'm asking you to look at the cable XD00:38
daftykinsnot the port00:38
daftykinsEriC^: yeah identical displays, one HDMI, one DVI - the DVI shows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11052502/00:39
daftykinsthat it doesn't have the same top res (we're looking to get 2560x1080 on both)00:39
AR45It's Single actually.00:39
daftykinson the cable?00:39
daftykinsyeah so this is never going to work00:39
daftykinssingle link cannot carry greater than 1920x1080, you need to take it back to the shop and exchange it00:39
AR45I paid $20 bucks for this cable.00:39
EriC^i bought an hdmi cable the other day, and when i came home it was a mini hdmi on one end, i feel your pain00:40
daftykinshehe, doh!00:41
Mark___Hi there. after 5 hours I have now given up. I am trying to install guest additions on Ubuntu within a virtual box.. and I am completely stumped.. anyone have experience in doing this?00:44
EriC^click on devices > insert guest additions iso00:44
limacharlieMark___, whats going on?00:44
nith1210ls00:45
EriC^then open the file manager and it should be there, open a terminal and run sudo ./Vbox-Linux-.....sh00:45
limacharlieMark___, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-a-virtualbox-vm00:45
limacharlieMark___, that's a pretty straight forward resource.00:46
aaasI used git to clone some files to a directory, this directory is on a samba (cifs) share on a freenas nfs,  The parent directory is set to 'drwxrwxrwx',  tmp files are set to '-r--rw-r--' by git.  I get 'permission denied' errors when i try and delete these files (when I try running git, or just a simple rm)... if I set the file to +w I can delete it, but everything online tells me that it's the parent directory which determines whether I can de00:46
aaaslete a file, with deleting files in other directories (maybe it's a freenas/cifs problem?)  is there anything else that controls whether i can delete a file besides permissions/ownership?00:46
EriC^aaas: type lsattr /path/to/file00:46
EriC^ps i only read your last sentence and half of your first00:47
Mark___Thanks for sending those answers, I should have been more clear, I am unable to install guest aditions for some reason, THis is the only error that I can find.. "The headers for the current kernal were not found"00:47
aaasEriC^ "lsattr: Operation not supported While reading flags on <filename>00:48
EriC^Mark___: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic00:48
EriC^aaas: sudo lsattr00:48
aaasEriC^ thanks ...same error00:48
Mark___Thanks Eric I have tryed that but let me try again in case I overlooked something00:48
EriC^aaas: you're welcome00:49
aaasEriC^ but same error...any other suggestions00:49
Mark___It says I am already on the latest version00:50
EriC^type uname -r00:50
Mark___3.16.0-30-generic00:51
Mark___Not sure what that means :D00:51
EriC^aaas: type ls -l /file and paste here00:51
daftykinsthat's your kernel version.00:51
EriC^Mark___: ok, type apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic | grep Installed00:51
aaas-r--rw-r-- 2 user user 4076 May  9 17:10 efe01d0742c4f9c5215e91bd5b63344f853f8700:51
zardainhey guys00:52
Mark___Im not going to be able to paste in here cause of the clipboard isn't sharing properly00:52
daftykinslo00:52
EriC^Mark___: ok, just tell us the version00:52
EriC^wait what00:52
EriC^Mark___: oh nevermind00:52
zardainis there any way to dl torrents from terminal?00:53
Mark___3.13.0.52.5900:53
daftykinszardain: why? headless server?00:54
EriC^Mark___: type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.16.0-30-generic00:54
Mark___Cool sounds awesome let me try :)00:55
grendin one ubuntu there is hidden god00:55
SchrodingersScat!info rtorrent | zardain00:55
ubottuzardain: rtorrent (source: rtorrent): ncurses BitTorrent client based on LibTorrent from rakshasa. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.2-1 (vivid), package size 553 kB, installed size 1482 kB00:55
zardainthank you guys I will try it00:56
Mark___ahhh it still says its already on the newest version00:56
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EriC^Mark___: try sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso00:57
Mark___Also already at the newest version00:58
EriC^did you try rebooting?00:58
Mark___Let me try again... Have been rebooting a lot :)00:59
ubuntuser13how to create a custom repository from a linux repositories?00:59
Mark___same thing :'( the headers for the current running kernal were not found01:01
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nith1210ubuntuser13: You're probably looking for apt-mirror, apt-cacher or mini-dinstall depending on what you want.01:02
Mark___Is there no where that I can get a Ubuntu VDI with guest additions already installed?01:03
ubuntuser13nith1210: Actually, i want a custom repository based on my native language and want to create this from puppy tahr repository.01:04
EriC^^Mark___: are the headers in /usr/src?01:05
Mark___EriC^^: Yea they are the linux headers and the virtualbox headers01:07
grenddaftykins: i have booted from live cd, before that I run check hd option and nothing is there :)01:07
EriC^^for the 3.16 kernel?01:07
EriC^^3.16.0-3001:07
nith1210ubuntuser13: I recommend mini-dinstall then. Puppy Linux is not an officially supported flavor so this isn't really the right place to find help.01:08
EriC^^Mark___: ^^01:09
grendfolks how can I check state of hd? like fix bad sectors if any? as when I boot from hd it says cant find init01:09
grendand so on :D01:09
ubuntuser13nith1210: ok i understood. is there any way to create a custom menu in software center. by which on can filterate search according to one's choice or add packages.01:10
Mark___EriC^^: Im at a loss ;)01:10
EriC^^Mark___: type ls -ld /usr/src/*3.16.0-30*01:11
nith1210ubuntuser13: sorry, I don't know. I don't use the software center.01:11
ubuntuser13nith1210: ok, anyways thanks for help.01:12
Mark___EriC^^: it comes up with 2 linux headers the plain on and the generic one01:13
EriC^^ok, that's odd01:14
EriC^^Mark___: maybe try reinstalling? type sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-headers-3.16.0-30-generic01:14
Mark___EriC^^: Should I try install Guest Additions again ?01:17
EriC^^yeah01:17
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daftykinsgrend: sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit01:18
adsjlkdkwhats the terminal command that shows whats taking up ram01:19
EriC^ps aux ?01:19
Mark___EriC^: Same Thing01:20
EriC^Mark___: are you running 14.10?01:20
adsjlkdkEriC^: no it was top i think01:20
adsjlkdkyes its top01:20
Mark___Ubuntu hates me today :|01:20
jellowadsjlkdk: htop01:21
adsjlkdkno its top01:21
EriC^adsjlkdk: same thing01:21
EriC^Mark___: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:22
django_Hello all01:22
django_I used a flash drive to install ubuntu on my pc01:22
django_and i wanna use that flash drive again..how can i reset it to not be used as a way for installing ubuntu01:22
BhaalAnyone know when a deb package of Qt 5.5 might be available?  I'm stuck in 15.04 with the Qt xinerama bug01:22
EriC^django_: repartition and make a filesystem01:22
django_EriC^, you the man ty!01:23
nith1210Bhaal: If you're willing to take a risk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting01:24
explodes  why does my terminal tweak out sometimes01:24
EriC^django_: np01:24
Bhaalnith1210: I am! :)01:25
EriC^explodes: what do you mean?01:25
jellowexplodes: are you greping binaries? sometimes that can cause terminal to go funny. If that is what you mean.01:25
nith1210explodes: random flickering occurs with some nvidia cards (like mine) as well.01:25
explodessometimes windowed applications do it too01:25
Bhaalnith1210: Thank you, I've been searching and couldn't find any debs, much appreciated!01:25
nith1210Bhaal: np, best of luck. Don't forget to report any bugs you find.01:26
explodesnith1210: yea i have nvidia, flickering is per-window, right?01:26
adsjlkdkwhat torrent client do you guys use01:26
_cpo__hi01:26
explodesadsjlkdk: transmission01:26
explodeshas gui, web01:26
django_EriC^, which file system: fat32, ntfs or exFAT?01:26
_cpo__i'm searching a free usenet server... for several years it was possible to talk about politics, philosophy and so on in usenet.:-)01:26
_cpo__thanks!01:26
nith1210explodes: Yup. It's annoying and there was a bug open... let me see if I can find it.01:27
_cpo__or is it dead?01:27
EriC^django_: fat32 if you want01:28
explodes_cpo__: usenet exists it's widely used for filesharing now01:28
daftykinsgrend: got it?01:28
grendyes01:29
grendgoing to rest and perhaps try soon01:30
grendty01:30
_cpo__explodes: are there alternatives?01:30
funyunhi. how can i fix this error? Err http://ubuntu.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net utopic-backports/universe amd64 Packages 404  Not Found [IP?01:30
funyuncan i replace that with something?01:30
nith1210explodes: Sorry, can't seem to find it. You can find talk about the bug and similar on launchpad.net. I think it had to do with redraws specifically and it's not compiz (same bug on KDE)01:31
explodes_cpo__: http://usenet.com/ they're usually about $10/mo01:31
explodesnith1210: cool. thanks man01:31
explodesnith1210: lol this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-346/+bug/131436701:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1314367 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-346 (Ubuntu) "10de:0cbc [HP EliteBook 8540w] Flickering with Ubuntu 14.04 and nvidia driver" [High,Triaged]01:32
nith1210explodes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/88866601:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 888666 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "terminal doesn't refresh properly with nvidia-current drivers" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:32
nith1210explodes: found it. I've experience the same with gnome-shell, kde, and unity.01:33
_cpo__explodes: thanks!01:33
explodeswerd01:33
BhaalGah, ppa.launchpad seems to be taking a snooze01:33
daftykinsgrend: reset? what... my commands are meant to give you a link for you to paste here01:33
funyunhi. how can i fix this error? Err http://ubuntu.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net utopic-backports/universe amd64 Packages 404  Not Found [IP?01:34
nith1210anyone know anything about dpkg-source and why it can't find a file to patch which pops and pushes fine with quilt?01:34
ticamaiI'm having an issue with my machine. Fresh install, I install the nvidia drivers, reboot, and I'm left with a system that won't boot into graphical mode.01:34
ticamaiTrying to launch lightdm manually gives me an error about there being no alternatives for x86_64-linux-gnu_gfxcore_cfg01:35
tagwolfwhich nvidia drivers? the restricted package one via the gui?01:35
Mark___EriC^: Thanks for the help! But its still not happening. I'm giong to try remote in. I can't work on this tiny screen any more.01:35
ticamainvidia-current via apt-get01:35
daftykinsfunyun: contact OVH for correct mirrors, not an ubuntu problem i'm afraid.01:35
funyundaftykins: can't i use some ubuntu source?01:35
tagwolfwhat card do you have?01:35
ticamaiGTX 75001:35
daftykinsticamai: which card, which ubuntu version and which driver version?01:35
daftykins750 Ti?01:35
ticamaiJust 75001:36
ticamaino Ti01:36
tagwolffollow this doc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Ubuntu_14.04_and_up01:36
ticamai14.0401:36
daftykinsfunyun: not given it's likely a VPS, no01:36
ticamaihm. I have no idea how to copy that from my console window into links...01:36
explodesgit status01:36
daftykinsfunyun: you pay them for it, so demand their support :)01:36
ticamaiThis is literally my only machine and it's not working01:36
explodesoehy01:36
tagwolf=/01:36
tagwolfsec..01:36
tagwolfsudo ubuntu-drivers devices01:37
daftykinsticamai: which nvidia driver version did you install?01:37
tagwolfsudo apt-get install [nvidia-version]01:37
tagwolfsuggested is: nvidia-331-updates01:37
ticamaiI used nvidia-current, which is nvidia-331 i believe01:37
ticamaioh, wait, last time i used 331 directly01:37
tagwolfmake sure your kernel is updated and then reboot first01:38
ticamaiThis is a fresh install from disk01:38
explodesnvidia-349 is out01:38
ticamaiupdated as installed01:38
explodesif you use edgers...01:38
tagwolfdo a full apt-get update then apt-get upgrade first01:38
tagwolfand update your kernel, then reboot, then do the nvidia install01:38
tagwolfif it fails after that pm me01:38
ticamaialright01:38
tagwolfgood luck! no worries. I've had to do this hundreds of times before >.<01:39
tagwolfworst case. in links download directly from nvidia01:39
tagwolfit'll compile it from your kernel src, and that always worked for me01:40
tagwolflet me link you in case you lose this01:40
tagwolfhttp://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/340.32/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.32.run01:41
BhaalIs it just me or is ppa.launchpad.net not responding?01:41
Bhaal(via apt-get)01:41
tagwolfthat's the one you want if the repo version fails01:41
BhaalAhhhh it's back01:41
OerHekstagwolf, that would be not wise, as you need to re-install with any new kernel :-(01:42
OerHeksnot the ubuntu way, so to say01:42
tagwolfyea. but the repo version often has a lot of problems with newer cards01:42
guest-i75iIdHelp a newbie please01:43
tagwolfI should file a bug report. But I just assumed ubuntu was limited in which binary version they pushed01:43
ticamaiI've had this same os version running with this same hardware perfectly fine before. Then I played around with Windows 10 for a bit, then it became unbootable when I tried to install virtualbox, so now I'm back to this01:43
Ender_Wigginim having a hell of a time with samba and setting up a network path for my 2nd NTFS HDD on ubuntu 14.04. Anyone know about this issue?01:44
tagwolfpastebin yer smb config?01:44
tagwolfand df output01:44
guest-i75iIdInstalled ubuntu 14.04 lts with kubuntu GUI. I cannot log in. The username I set up with the password I set up does not work.01:44
Ender_Wigginstandby, gonna swtich IRC client to my ubuntu machine01:45
OerHekssamba and ntfs ..01:45
Ender_WigginOerHeks, ths is my hell. haha01:46
Ender_Wigginbeen reading up on several posts, seems to be a common issue with 14.0401:46
OerHeksYou cannot set permissions on ntfs, that would be your issue, i think you need to mount ntfs the right way for that.01:46
daftykinstagwolf: manual download borks for people on kernel updates, not usually a good move01:46
Ender_Wigginbrb setting up IRC on my ubuntu01:47
tagwolfI agree. It would mean needing to recompile binary on each kernel upgrade01:47
tagwolfbut as he only has shell, cant copy/paste, and needs computer up asap, it's a failsafe to get him running for now01:47
daftykinsas would be a package install (:01:48
tagwolfI personally prefer having the latest nvidia driver from them. But that's one of a select few things I'll manage myself01:48
Ender_Wigginguest-i75iId pastebin.com/PLeAqdWu01:50
tagwolfdaftykins, his first attempt at pkg stopped him from being able to launch lightdm. I gave him steps to try again after updating everything else os wise. and only if that fails to grab straight from nvidia.01:50
Ender_Wigginguest-i75iId http://pastebin.com/PLeAqdWu01:50
Ender_Wigginsorry01:50
tagwolfbut if you can help him get the repo version working then all the power!01:50
tagwolfEnder_Wiggin: mount output too please!01:51
Ender_Wigginthe two values I've changed is "workgroup = MSHOME" from "WORKGROUP" and added the last 3 lines before ##### Networking #####01:51
Ender_Wiggintagwolf, can ya tell me how to do that please?01:51
Ender_Wiggin<---- noob01:51
tagwolfEnder_Wiggin: this samba conf is default..01:51
tagwolfyou have to add the share into it01:51
daftykinsuser seems to have disappeared ^_^01:51
tagwolfhttps://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-configuration01:52
Ender_Wiggintagwolf i changed 1 value and added 3 lines before networking, starts with "what naming service"01:52
tagwolfyou need to add a viable share. that doc goes over the steps. try that first!01:52
guest-i75iIdInstalled ubuntu 14.04 lts with kubuntu GUI. I cannot log in. The username I set up with the password I set up does not work01:52
Ender_Wigginkk standby01:52
tagwolfthe path variable will be the path to your ntfs disk mount01:53
Ender_Wigginim assuming the workgroup variable isn't "EXAMPLE" and the security variable isn't "USER"? haha01:54
Ender_Wigginuser*01:54
Ender_Wiggintagwolf, I do not have a string that says "security = " in my conf either it seems01:57
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excelsiorahi01:58
excelsioraI'm back01:59
excelsiorais there a smaller font than Terminus 12x6?01:59
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Ender_Wiggintagwolf, on that article you sent me, when I do step 3, should my path match the path I used in step 2.2, or should I use /srv/samba/share for step 3?02:06
stanford_droneOur startup got funded! We're building a personal gaming flying robot. Does anyone know computer vision or Artificial Intelligence? Do you want to come to shenzhen, china from July to October, and work with us?02:08
gallyneroHi02:10
OerHeksstanford_drone, this is ubuntu support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for other stuff02:11
stanford_droneok, thanks02:11
gallyneroSorry for my bad english, how to i can add a external node to ubuntu cloud?02:12
gallyneroOr only accept local nodes?02:12
Ender_Wiggin_tagwolf, ping <302:13
Ender_Wiggin_on that article you sent me, I set the path on step 2.2 to the directory of my NTFS HDD, should I repeat that path variable in step 3?02:14
Ender_Wiggin_https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-configuration02:15
Ender_Wiggin_nvmd got it, gonna try02:15
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daftykinsah you're gonna have some permissions fun sharing direct from NTFS02:16
Ender_Wiggin_daftykins is there any easier way around it for sharing to Win 8.1?02:16
Ender_Wiggin_(and OS X)02:17
Ender_Wiggin_I dont mind reformating, etc. its a new drive.02:17
secnulldevoh yah02:17
secnulldevmy uncle molests me please help me escape02:17
secnulldevcall 91102:17
Ender_Wiggin_I noticed my shares on my Ext4 drive work for Win 8.102:18
secnulldevplease help02:18
secnulldevthis is his computer02:18
daftykinsif it's permanently going to live under a Linux host, format it for EXT402:18
secnulldevcall 91102:18
secnulldevhe shows men pictures of me on here02:18
Ender_Wiggin_will it still be sharable to Win 8.1/OS X?02:18
secnulldevon here02:19
secnulldevHELP02:19
secnulldevHELP02:19
daftykinsit doesn't matter which OS it gets shared to, it's samba02:19
explodesis this a troll?02:19
Ender_Wiggin_^02:19
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secnulldevHELP PLEASE02:19
explodeswhen did he join02:19
daftykinsexplodes: i'll give you one guess.02:19
explodesdaftykins: maybe?02:19
daftykinsjust ignore it.02:19
Ender_Wiggin_daftykins, should I reset my samba conf to default then?02:19
secnulldevbefore he gets back02:19
daftykinsdepends what you've done so far.02:20
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Ender_Wiggin_https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-configuration02:20
Ender_Wiggin_all that stuff, up to step 3, got leaking mem error02:20
secnulldevme makes me put his pee pee in my mouth02:20
secnulldevand it tastes bad02:20
secnulldevhelp02:20
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secnulldevnone of you care???02:21
OerHekssecnulldev, we don't call 911.02:21
secnulldevcall police02:21
secnulldevplease02:21
secnulldevplease02:21
secnulldevhe puts his pee pee inside me02:22
secnulldevin my butthole02:22
compdocI called 911 - they are on the way02:22
secnulldevit hurts!02:22
secnulldevouch02:23
secnulldevOUCH02:23
secnulldevhe shoves it in hard02:23
secnulldevreally really hard02:23
secnulldevouch02:23
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secnulldevhelp02:23
secnulldevCALL 91102:23
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explodesWhy no mute02:23
zyklon_helo02:23
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daftykins!ops02:24
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Ender_Wiggin_daftykins, whats the best way to go about reformatting the drive to EXT4?02:24
daftykinsrun gparted02:24
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excelsiorahi02:30
Ender_Wiggin_daftykins, would "disks" work just as well as gparted? kinda got lost in that menu haha02:31
Ender_Wiggin_<-noob =/02:31
daftykinsuse whatever works for you02:31
Ender_Wiggin_kk02:31
Ender_Wiggin_The drive is 2TB, should I do MBR/DOS or GPT?02:33
daftykinsdoesn't matter02:33
excelsioraso, any good examples of dotfiles out there?02:33
daftykinswhat do you mean?02:34
daftykinsthere are plenty of files that begin with . in your ~02:34
excelsioraI'm trying to set up my customizations so I can easily pick up on a fresh Ubuntu install where I leave off, and was wondering about best practices in that regards, so if there's a good example to learn from... please point it out to me!02:35
daftykinscan't say i have a clue what you're speaking of :)02:36
Ender_Wiggin_daftykins brb power cycling everything.02:36
daftykinsyeah no need to update me all evening, Ender_Wiggin_02:36
excelsioraAndyDavis: you there?02:36
excelsiorawant to see what I did?02:36
daftykinsyou know, often people spend more time setting up a clean install routine than it takes to actually just do it normally.02:36
excelsiorayeah, but then I have something I've put together thoughtfully.02:37
ObrienDavethere's a clean install routine? never knew ;P02:37
excelsiorawhy does the default pyclean not work recursively?02:37
excelsioraI had to write my own02:37
AndyDavisexcelsiora, excuse me oh double untundras02:38
excelsiora?02:38
excelsioraok02:38
excelsioraAndyDavis: I stuck this in my .bashrc: echo -e "\\e]PC6495ed"02:39
AndyDaviswhy two ecp char ?02:41
excelsiorait works02:41
AndyDavisbut why two esp char02:41
AndyDavisbut that is awesome that it is working !02:42
AndyDavisSuper funkadora awesome02:42
excelsioraI'll see if I can find my reference02:43
AndyDaviswoops /me sucks used a word that had odra in it02:43
* AndyDavis ducks 02:43
ObrienDaveokaaaaaaaaaay02:44
jack3Hello.  Just created .nanorc  in home/myname   and put a couple commands in it.   Logged off shell, then back on.  There is no difference.. the commands do not seem to be taking effect.   What't the trick to getting .nanorc to work?02:46
Ender_Wiggindaftykins, im getting "the disk drive /DIRECTORY/ is not ready or not present after mounting it and rebooting.02:48
Ender_Wigginwhen i choose skip, it let's me mount it though, but upon restart i get the same error02:48
Ender_Wigginits on the Ubuntu splash screen02:49
Ender_Wiggin"/DIRECTORY/" is just a placeholder for actual directory02:49
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: did you attempt to edit /etc/fstab with the now ext4 formatted drive?02:51
Guest64249exit02:51
excelsioraAndyDavis: anyways, just google my solution, look for the linux blog, probably second result02:51
Ender_Wiggindaftykins, don't think so. Just created the partition and mounted.02:52
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/fstab02:52
Ender_Wigginkk02:53
Ender_Wigginhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11054442/02:55
Ender_Wigginah shit something in there is NTFS-3g02:56
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: see line 10? that's what your disk *was*, correct?02:56
daftykinsdon't swear :>02:56
Ender_Wigginsorry02:56
Ender_Wiggincorrect, the disk was NTFS02:56
daftykinstype "sudo nano /etc/fstab" in the terminal, put a # in front of line 10, then press ctrl+O then ctrl+X to save and exit02:56
daftykinsalthough now you need a new line to permanently mount the disk now that it's ext402:57
daftykinsin fact avoid pressing ctrl+X, and go to the end of the file to add a new line02:57
daftykinsi'll need another: "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"02:58
Ender_Wigginok did what ya first said, added # saved and exited02:59
apollondmahello :)02:59
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: ok run the above02:59
apollondmadoes anyone here have exp with submitting Ubuntu Software packages to the developer page?03:00
daftykinsnot me03:00
apollondmauploading?03:00
apollondmadang :(03:00
apollondmashell coders?03:01
daftykinsyou would find them in #bash03:01
apollondmalol cool tahnk you daftykins :D03:01
apollondmaexit03:02
Ender_Wigginseems to be showing EXT4 now03:03
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: i take it it's the 2TB?03:03
Ender_Wigginyeah the WD20EZRX03:03
Ender_Wiggin(first one)03:04
daftykinsalright so you can use the same mount point as last time, so open up "sudo nano /etc/fstab" again03:04
daftykinsin a second terminal, run "sudo blkid" and copy the UUID for /dev/sda103:04
Ender_Wiggink03:04
Soapubuntukillshi03:05
Ender_Wiggink03:05
SoapubuntukillsIm new to ubuntu and just installed xchat03:05
daftykinsso essentially you want "UUID=blah   /media/atreyu/backup_001   ext4   defaults,user    0   2"03:05
Soapubuntukillshow do i open the configuration window03:05
daftykinsSoapubuntukills: ok. well this channel is the support channel only, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic03:05
daftykinsto configure what?03:06
Soapubuntukillsto join a another network03:06
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daftykinsSoapubuntukills: that's more a 'how to use xchat' kind of question03:07
Ender_Wiggindaftykins how do I replace the UUID in /fstab?03:07
Ender_Wigginonly letting me copy and paste on new line03:08
daftykinscopy it by selecting, then right mouse click to paste in03:08
Soapubuntukillsnvm guys03:08
Soapubuntukillsgot it03:08
Soapubuntukillsok, how do i open a terminal window with root in ubuntu03:08
Ender_Wigginok got it03:08
Ender_Wigginsaved and exited03:09
BhaalI cannot get steam running, cannot get an i386 libgcrypt11 package to install and steam needs it :/03:10
Ender_Wiggindaftykins, reboot and test it?03:10
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: nah no need, first up show me a "mount | pastebinit"03:11
ptrzdoes anyone know how to turn off a ThinkPad's wifi indicator light? I can't find anything online, and my friend's just incessantly blinks, which is super distracting.03:12
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: do "sudo umount /dev/sda1" then "sudo mount -a"03:12
Ender_Wiggindone03:13
apollondmawhat rooms are available for linux devs? Im new lol03:15
apollondma..is anyone online?03:15
Ender_Wiggino703:15
apollondmao7?03:16
Ender_Wigginsalute haha03:16
apollondmaah lol salute ;)03:16
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: is it mounted now?03:16
Ender_Wigginnegative03:16
apollondmawho is admininstrating this room?03:17
daftykinsthe ops are.03:17
apollondmaops?03:17
Ender_Wigginoperators03:17
apollondmaah duh lol are they canonical?03:18
Ender_Wigginthey'll only log in to OP when needed.03:18
Ender_WigginLeast, most rooms work that way on freenode03:18
daftykinsapollondma: no, volunteers03:18
daftykinsone or two might be staff but it's not a given03:18
Ender_Wiggindaftykins, what should I do next?03:19
daftykinswell, did it error on the above command(s)?03:19
Ender_Wigginnaw03:19
daftykinsrun "mount" on its' own and see if you see /dev/sda1 listed as mounted03:20
apollondmaok cool cool thankyou guys ;)03:21
ircshillhello. I was hoping someone could help me out with something very basic. I shouldn't need to ask for help but here I am.03:21
Ender_Wiggindont get sda1 listed, should I mount via Disks?03:21
ircshillI just want to set up an IRC server I can easily use..03:21
ircshill*IRC client03:21
apollondmawhat issues are you having?03:22
daftykinsthis isn't really IRC client support.03:22
apollondmayeah this is for Ubuntu OS support03:22
Ender_Wiggindaftykins, im gonna attempt mount via Disks and reboot to see if I get the same error03:23
ircshillI am just looking for general advice on what irc client to get. I tried getting one and it was too technical03:23
Ender_Wiggindaftykins ran it on Disks and Mount now shows /sda103:23
daftykinsircshill: you best tell us which so we don't just repeat then03:24
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: yeah that doesn't achieve anything though, it needs to work from the /etc/fstab entry03:24
apollondmadoes anyone know if the packages for Ubuntu Software center can be custom built as far as directory paths? like when the debian file is compressed and built, can the directories be whereever we like?03:24
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: maybe "pastebinit /etc/fstab" again so i can check it, or sure reboot to confirm03:24
ircshillhm.. trying to find out which03:24
apollondmais there a debian room?03:25
daftykinsare you serious?03:25
daftykinsit's called #ubuntu03:25
apollondmadebian isn't only on ubuntu tho, and its select to its own build03:26
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: yeah you didn't add that line at all...03:26
Ender_Wigginlol sorry03:26
daftykinsapollondma: your sentence doesn't make sense, ubuntu is based on debian.03:26
Ender_Wiggini changed 10 UUID03:26
apollondmalol dont apologize, this is why these rooms are here, for questions ;)03:26
Ender_Wigginis there another line I need to add?03:27
apollondmait is, but debian is a different item, Ubuntu is built on debian architecture, but its not the some thing in one item.03:27
jdqxanyone else mining ethereum?03:28
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: what i said earlier: so essentially you want "UUID=blah   /media/atreyu/backup_001   ext4   defaults,user    0   2"03:28
daftykinsadd that *new* line to the bottom03:28
Ender_Wiggingot it03:28
apollondmalol this is a support room jdqx..03:28
apollondmahey, if anyone here is a shell wiz.. you should visit linuxghost.zohosites.com because you can submit your scripts to be added to the repo by default :D its a good way to get yur code into the eyes of people you'd like to post as clientel..03:30
daftykinsnot really a place to advertise03:32
daftykinstake it to #ubuntu-offtopic for... off topic :)03:32
whallzhow do i change drivers from propietary nvidia to nouveau from the terminal?03:33
whallzi cannot start x03:33
daftykinssudo apt-get purge nvidia*03:33
apollondmaare you referring to proccessing drivers?03:33
daftykinsi think you just made that up03:34
apollondmalol i didnt see daftykins post, hes got the right answer :P03:34
apollondmayeah using purge sounds like it would be the best thing to do03:35
whallzty03:35
daftykinsglad we're in agreement03:35
apollondmalol :P03:35
Ender_Wiggindisk is alo showing as mounted03:35
apollondmayou seem like you know yur stuff :P03:35
dreamonI want to use ubuntu printer server on local netwerk to use without password asking.. what do I have to chance in standard settings of cupsd.conf03:35
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: err you need to remove the hash and are you sure that's the current UUID?03:35
Ender_Wigginurgggh dang it haha03:36
daftykinssudo blkid to check03:36
whallzand how do i install fresh nvidia drivers after purge?03:36
whallznvidia-current is the good one? :)03:36
daftykinswhallz: what card first03:36
daftykinsno03:36
whallzgeForce 820M03:36
Ender_Wiggindaftykins remove # on line 14?03:37
daftykinsoh dear, so mobile03:37
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: yup03:37
ircshillgeneral question here - is adding the PPA from hexchat considered safe?03:37
daftykinsisn't hexchat in the default repos?03:37
whallzdaftykins: its an acer laptop03:37
daftykins!info hexchat03:37
ubottuhexchat (source: hexchat): IRC client for X based on X-Chat 2. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.1-2 (vivid), package size 386 kB, installed size 1195 kB03:37
daftykinswhallz: which ubuntu?03:37
whallz14.0403:37
daftykinshrmm wonder if 331 supports your 820M... here's to finding out03:38
whallzlinux 3.16.0-37-generic03:38
daftykinswhallz: sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime03:38
ircshilli'll install it from the software centre, NP03:38
whallzdaftykins: ok thanks03:38
Ender_Wiggindaftykins, i rebooted and didnt get the error. disk is mounted, should i still remove the #?03:38
daftykinsyes.03:39
Ender_Wigginkk03:39
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Ender_Wiggink gonna reboot and double check03:40
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Ender_Wigginok that problem is resolved, gonna test a network path for the new formated drive03:42
Ender_Wiggindaftykins, Im still not able to connect to the drive from Win 8.103:43
daftykinswhat is your process?03:43
daftykinsas in what are you doing03:43
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Ender_Wiggingoing to Network>Server>Backup_001 (the Ext4 drive) and get that error03:44
daftykinsit's kinda pointless PMing me all these links XD nothing is private to you03:44
Ender_Wigginsorrry haha03:44
daftykinswhat does the share look like in smb.conf?03:45
Ender_Wigginwhats the command to access that again? /etc/samba/smb.conf?03:46
daftykinspastebinit it03:46
Ender_Wigginah i think i uninstalled samba... lol03:47
whallzdaftykins: nvidia-331 did the trick, i'm downloading openarena to test it03:47
Ender_Wigginnvmd i do have it03:47
whallzis there a good benchmarking tool for testing hardware and driver performance?03:47
daftykinswhallz: running nvidia-settings to look at the options should be good too03:48
whallzdaftykins: ok03:48
Ender_Wigginshould I put nano in for the pastebinit?03:50
Ender_Wigginor just "sudo /etc/samba/smb.conf | pastebinit"?03:50
bobweavercat the name of then file03:51
daftykinsnope03:51
daftykinsall wrong :P03:51
bobweaverthen the name of the html p;lace03:51
daftykins"pastebinit /file"03:51
bobweaverfailed wrote it03:51
phunyguybobweaver: can we help you with something?03:51
bobweaver./pastebinit <name/of/and/path > |pastebinit03:51
Ender_Wigginstandby03:52
daftykinsbobweaver: no there is no ./ either03:52
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bobweaverpaperbags.... maybe you have it set in you echo $PATH03:52
daftykinsphunyguy: i think this guy needs ejecting03:53
daftykinsbad advice++03:53
Ender_Wigginhttp://pastebin.com/7hV3xHe703:53
phunyguybobweaver: last warning. Help please, or stay silent.03:53
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: err so i'm not seeing a share definition, how did you set up the share?03:54
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Ender_Wigginunder files GUI, right click on the drive>properties>local network share>"share this folder" share name: "backup_001" "allow others to create and delete files in this folder" "guest access"03:55
daftykinsah yeah i wouldn't do that03:55
Ender_Wiggin=P03:55
daftykinsyou're going to want to go back through that and check it, too03:56
Ender_Wigginwant me to uncheck them?03:56
daftykinswell i can only offer a guaranteed way that i do it03:56
Ender_Wiggini will take that way then!03:56
Ender_Wiggin=P03:56
bobweaveror so we say !03:57
Ender_Wigginill do whatever ya say daftykins, whats the best way?03:57
daftykinssudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.orig03:58
daftykinsthat keeps a backup of the file before edits03:58
daftykinssudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf03:58
daftykinssec getting some example config04:00
daftykinsyou'll be adding this to the very end of the file04:00
Ender_Wigginis it ok to use geddit?04:02
Ender_Wiggingedit*04:02
daftykinsit is if you know how to run GUI apps as root correctly04:02
daftykinsi.e. with gksu/gksudo04:02
Ender_Wigginyeah gksu gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf04:03
daftykinsnano is a lovely text editor, keeps things simple04:03
N3X15I still can't tell the difference between pico and nano.04:03
Ender_Wiggink ill stick to nano then04:03
aeon-ltdfor real there's a text editor called pico?04:04
N3X15Yeah, ran into it in some installation guide04:04
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11055239/04:04
aeon-ltdnano pico, now we need micro04:04
Ender_Wiggindaftykins, ad a space after last line in smb.conf?04:05
daftykinsmmhmm04:05
Ender_Wigginsave and exit?04:05
daftykinsmmhmm04:06
Ender_Wigginor title it different?04:06
Ender_Wigginkk04:06
daftykinsnow run "testparm" to confirm it's ok04:06
daftykinsobviously you needed to change a lot of those to suit your setup04:06
Ender_Wigginoh... lol04:06
Ender_Wigginderp04:07
* daftykins facepalms04:07
daftykins:P04:07
Ender_Wiggingot it04:07
Ender_Wiggincan comment be anything?04:07
daftykinsyeo04:08
daftykinsp04:08
daftykinsHere be dragons!04:08
Ender_Wigginlol k got it04:08
Ender_Wigginya need pastebin of testparm?04:09
daftykinsnah just check it complains of no errors04:09
Ender_Wigginloaded services OK04:09
Ender_WigginROLE_STANDALONE04:09
daftykinsgive it a restart04:09
Ender_Wigginoh lol... didnt hit inter04:09
Ender_Wigginenter*04:09
Ender_Wigginkk04:10
Ender_Wiggingonna test it in a sec, one last issue, I SWEAR!04:10
Ender_WigginI have to reboot twice everytime I boot up.04:10
daftykinswhy o004:10
Ender_WigginI get to the purple screen after BIOS and i lose monitor connection, when I reboot I get the GNU GRUB menu to choose Ubuntu/advanced options for ubuntu/etc04:11
Ender_Wiggincould be a driver issue?04:11
Ender_Wiggini ran an update after clean install of 14.04, not sure if it updated my NVIDIA drivers or not04:12
daftykinsdoesn't it just sort itself out?04:12
daftykinstbh i'm a fan of one task at a time04:12
Ender_Wigginyeah after I reboot 2x haha... just doesn't seem natural? I guess?04:12
Ender_Wigginhaha04:12
Ender_Wigginkk04:12
Ender_Wigginhmm i cant even access the computer at all on my Win 8.1.. should I reboot that machine too?04:13
daftykinsnah04:14
daftykinsinstead of using the browsing, directly enter \\IP of ubuntu machine\sharename04:14
tax_can someone point me into the right direction for some help with chrubuntu?04:15
reisio\\\, ew04:15
daftykinstriple? wat04:15
reisio\\, ew04:15
reisiotax_: /msg alis list *chr*bunt*04:15
daftykinsoh shoo!04:15
reisioshoo-in04:15
daftykins:D04:15
Ender_Wigginsame issue04:16
daftykinsas in the windows error message pic?04:17
daftykinsis the windows 8 machine in a homegroup?04:17
Ender_Wigginyeah04:17
Ender_Wigginstandby04:17
Ender_Wigginyep04:18
daftykinsi'd remove it from that04:18
Ender_Wiggink04:18
daftykinsi personally use full passworded access on shares though, no guest usage, no homegroups04:18
daftykinswindows file sharing is a fickle beast04:19
Ender_Wiggini dont mind doing password access04:19
daftykinswell, see what happens after this04:19
Ender_Wigginleft home group, got same error04:19
daftykinsreboot the win boxen this time04:20
Ender_Wigginshould i leave the homegroup on my other Win box too?04:20
daftykinseventually perhaps but best to just focus on getting one working04:21
angelleguys I would have a question04:21
Ender_Wiggink brb04:21
angelletrying to install application and it says04:21
angelleinstallation ended prematurely......04:21
angelleany advice?04:21
SCRIPTHALPAnyone available to help with an init script?04:22
Ender_Wiggindaftykins back04:22
daftykinsyou might be better off in #bash04:22
Ender_Wigginme?04:22
SCRIPTHALPhmm alright I'll go check it out04:22
SCRIPTHALPThanks04:22
Ender_Wigginnvmd04:23
Adam___hi, i want to know which is the best way to encrypt my whole disk including ubuntu installation? does ubuntu's default encryption encrypt everything when i select it in installation? or it just encrypt ubuntu installation folders only? (sorry i'm new to ubuntu)04:23
Ender_Wiggincurses!04:23
Ender_Wigginhaha04:23
Ender_Wiggini can access the computer over the network, but not the new share on the 2nd harddrive04:23
Ender_Wigginhaha04:23
Ender_Wigginshares on my 1st HDD are accessable04:23
zerowaitstateAdam___ there is an option for full disk encryption04:24
Adam___i want the best encryption04:24
reisioAdam___: it asks you which you want04:24
Ender_Wiggindaftykins, i also cannot access the Win8 box from Ububtu, if that helps.04:24
reisioencryption is a sliding scale, and "the best" is arguably pointless04:25
Ender_Wigginwell not specific shares04:25
SCRIPTHALPyeah you should probably research kinds of encryption for the one you think is best04:25
SCRIPTHALP#my2ceents04:25
reisiowhen you encrypt data, you are not actually attempting to protect your data from professionals04:25
angellereisio I'm still waiting for an answer on Windows04:25
zerowaitstatefull disk encryption puts the whole system in a LUKS volume04:25
reisiobecause professionals are not stopped by encryption at all04:25
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: hrmm edit the config to read guest = no, then run "sudo smbpasswd -a username" (where username = your ubuntu username) then create a password for it04:25
reisioyou're just trying to protect your data from amateurs/casual eyes with encryption04:25
zerowaitstatereisio depends04:25
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: ideally you make the username identical on your Windows and ubuntu box, then you make the above password the same as your Windows one04:25
angellereisio!04:25
reisioangelle: <looks>04:25
reisiozerowaitstate: nope04:25
angellewhat about me?04:25
reisioangelle: just relax, as you can see I'm talking in many channels :p04:26
angelleI'm not important at all isn't it?04:26
daftykinsangelle: oh shush04:26
Adam___zerowaitstate: reisio: then what is the reason for encryption being an option ?04:26
Ender_Wigginok, also i just attempted to connect to the same Win8 shares on my other Win7, had to input creditentials and it worked04:26
Ender_Wiggin(win 7 is different box too)04:26
zerowaitstateAdam___ disk encryption protects data at rest.  I.e., when comp is powered off.  it doesn't protect against attack on a live system04:27
reisioAdam___: lot of amateurs out there04:28
raspberrypifani have an ubunt live cd and two hfs plus disks which i want ot mount with RW but no matter what i cant04:28
raspberrypifanthey keep mounting as reado nly04:28
Adam___zerowaitstate: yes thats what i want, i can protect myself from online attacks by firewalls, but came here to talk about best encryption in your views?04:28
Ender_Wiggindaftykins, for the guest = no, that's in the line you asked me to add right? it's already at "guest OK = no"04:28
zerowaitstateprofessionals with phys access will attempt to image RAM before allowing power off04:28
reisioAdam___: and they're defeated by the least encryption, so the most is fairly irrelevant04:28
Adam___zerowaitstate: reisio: i just want a verdict :)04:29
reisioAdam___: about what?04:29
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: despite my example looking like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11055239/04:29
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: listen, what timezone are you in?04:29
Ender_WigginPST04:29
SCRIPTHALPHaI.04:30
Ender_Wigginhold on....04:30
Adam___reisio: about which way is the most safest way and harder to break? i want full disk encryption04:30
zerowaitstatefull disk encryption is useful in case of theft of the comp.  otherwise it is no different than running without04:30
Ender_WigginROFL yeah was looking at the [print] variables haha04:30
Ender_Wigginnvmd lol04:30
Ender_Wigginstandby04:30
zerowaitstatefull disk in LUKS typically uses AES04:30
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Adam___zerowaitstate: reisio: i heard aes 256 is the best encryption available at the moment?04:31
daftykinspersonally i think the world are welcome to pics of my cat.04:32
zerowaitstateAES is good.  the jury is still out on whether it is best.  ask #crypto04:32
Ender_Wiggindaftykins ok done04:32
raspberrypifanhelp plz04:32
Ender_Wigginset up password04:32
daftykinsraspberrypifan: question plz04:32
reisioAdam___: nope04:32
raspberrypifani have an ubunt live cd and two hfs plus disks which i want ot mount with RW but no matter what i cant04:32
reisioAdam___: and you're not listening, you don't need the best04:32
Ender_Wigginwe're so close daftykins, I can taste it!04:33
reisioAdam___: it'll slow down your OS for no benefit04:33
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: ok what happens if you open an explorer window and edit the address bar to read \\IP of server\share ?04:33
daftykinsmaybe try it across more than the one PC just to see what it gets up to04:33
Adam___reisio: then what do you suggest?04:33
reisioAdam___: whatever Ubuntu uses by default for full disk will suffice04:34
Ender_WigginYOU ARE A GOD AMONGST MEN04:34
reisiorealistically, using encfs or ecryptfs on your home dir will suffice04:34
raspberrypifanhow do i get it to r/w the hfs plus drive04:34
Ender_Wigginall hail our new overloard daftykins!!!!!04:34
daftykins\o/04:34
Ender_WigginTHANKS!04:34
daftykinsmy first act is to make reisio wear a penguin suit 24/704:34
Ender_WigginI seriously hope you get paid to do this for a living, you're too good not to be getting $$$ for this04:35
reisiothe kind of people who _can_ get information from your /tmp/ or from swap or from your RAM _aren't stopped by encryption anyway_04:35
reisiodaftykins: too late04:35
Adam___reisio: i want to encrypt my whole disk, and whole data, images, documents, and everything on disk04:35
Tax89Anyone able to answer some questions about installing churbuntu04:35
reisioAdam___: that's an option during install, IIRC04:35
Tax89or send me to the right channel?04:35
reisioTax89: already did?04:35
Ender_Wigginthanks so much man!04:35
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angelle:(04:35
Ender_Wiggin<333304:35
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: haha, thanks. well not paid for being in here, but i do do it in real life04:35
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: enjoy!04:35
Adam___reisio: which encryption does default ubuntu use?04:35
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: oh try creating a file because there might still be permissions fun to overcome04:36
Ender_Wigginkk04:36
reisioAdam___: probably some aes with luks04:36
zerowaitstatemy guess is AES-CBC or AES-GCM04:37
Ender_Wigginread/write works in both directions04:37
Ender_Wigginthanks!04:37
Adam___zerowaitstate: reisio: and how powerfull is that? i mean government can break it?04:37
Ender_Wigginhmm04:38
Ender_Wigginhaha04:38
Ender_Wigginany suggestions on how to allow me to access my Win8 shares from my Ubuntu?04:38
Ender_WigginI can see them like before, just dont have perms04:38
raspberrypifanRW hfs plus on live usb?04:38
daftykinsraspberrypifan: can't be done.04:39
daftykinsdata will die.04:39
raspberrypifanwhat data?04:39
daftykinsdata on the HFS+ volume =|04:39
reisioAdam___: no, if the government or anyone else could break it simply, it wouldn't be the default04:39
zerowaitstateI was right.  it's AES-CBC04:39
raspberrypifanwhy? supposedly if you use hfsprogs it can be done04:39
daftykinsraspberrypifan: no it's not supported and experimental04:39
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: err, go to the properties of the share and explicitly add your username to the permissions and give you full control04:40
angellereisio you spend more time on Ubuntu than on Windows04:40
raspberrypifanwell sadly ubuntu is the only OS that will read my broken os x drive but then i cant keep the info to another hfs plus drive04:40
zerowaitstateAdam___ if they could then Come would not be complaining04:40
reisioangelle: you don't answer my questions04:40
zerowaitstateComey04:40
raspberrypifandoes any distro have full hfs plus RW support04:40
daftykinsraspberrypifan: no.04:40
zerowaitstateHFS blows04:41
daftykinsraspberrypifan: you should take the data off and not use a mac drive anymore04:41
reisioraspberrypifan: http://www.sysresccd.org/ ?04:41
Ender_Wigginunder the permissions tab, I get "the permissions of "workstation(smb)" could not be determined.04:41
Ender_Wigginno options to input username/pwd04:42
daftykinsthat's properties in windows 8, of the folder on the windows PC, yeah?04:42
Adam___zerowaitstate: reisio: ok please answer me this time, i'm going to install ubuntu 15.04 now, and if i select use whole disk when it ask to select disk and select encryption there, it will encrypt my whole disk? or just ubuntu installation folders?04:42
raspberrypifanwell thats all i have avaiable,04:42
Ender_Wigginthe properties box is in Ubuntu of a Win8 share04:42
raspberrypifanreisio: but will the system rescue cd usb boot from a mac. somehow only ubuntu work04:43
zerowaitstatethe whole root volume04:43
Ender_WigginThe win7 shares worked fine, just had to input username/pw04:43
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: no you can't configure permissions and settings on a remote share that isn't working :D04:43
Ender_Wigginwell i mean i can see the shares lol04:43
Ender_Wigginjust cant open the directory04:43
angellesomeone asked me something?04:43
daftykinsdoubt it04:43
zerowaitstateI can't speak to swap04:43
daftykinsswapwhisperer04:44
angelleit shows green symbol that means someone asked me something04:44
angellebut to lazy to scroll up all the way to the top04:44
Ender_Wigginin ubunbtu, it lists all the shares under that machine, just wont let me get into them04:44
angelleso whoever asked me anything04:44
angellecould you please repeat?04:44
Ender_Wigginboth properties of the machine itself and the shares say the same error04:44
reisioAdam___: IIRC it offers two options: one is full disk, the other is /home/ only04:45
reisioAdam___: I'm sure you can be trusted to choose the one of those two that you prefer04:45
daftykinsEnder_Wiggin: eh i think i'm spent for tonight04:45
Ender_Wigginhaha ok thanks04:45
daftykinsi'd probably confirm with the CLI utility 'smbclient'04:45
daftykinswhich may need installing04:45
Guest13479THERE'S WATER ON MY LAPTOP KEYBOARD I NEED HELP NOW TO AVOID ANYTHING04:46
Adam___zerowaitstate: reisio: when i installed ubuntu yesterday, in first installation it asked for full encryption, then when it asked me to give my username and password it also asked me to encrypt home folder, that confuses me, if first i did the full disk encryption then it shouldn't have asked me about encrypting home folder?04:46
daftykinsGuest13479: and what makes this an ubuntu question? :)04:47
Ender_Wiggink04:47
Guest13479JUST GIVE AN ANSWER YOU FUCKING ASPERGER CUCKBOY04:47
reisioAdam___: that does sound confusing04:48
reisioGuest13479: okay: 4204:48
daftykinsi'll have you know i do not suffer from that social skill affliction04:48
Guest13479for installing ubuntu you do04:48
zerowaitstateAdam___: folder encryption is tied to user login.  full disk isnt04:48
a7i3nyikes04:48
daftykinsbeats being such a loser you troll on IRC :(04:48
Johnny_Linuxohluh04:49
zerowaitstatetechnically I guess it might be possible to run both, but I don't know why you would want to in most cases04:49
CarlFKGimp has 3 windows: image, layers, toolbox.   none have "always on top" checked, but the layers & toolbox don't get out of thew ay when I click on another app, like Firefox (or pidgin, where I am chatting)04:50
xanguaCarlFK: you can enable the single windows mode in the Windows menu04:51
CarlFKxangua: that helps, but not what I was looking for.  when I select window, it should come to the top.04:53
Ender_Wiggindaftykins fixed it04:56
daftykinsgo team!04:56
igkph。04:56
Ender_Wiggindaftykins my share from ubunbtu you helped me create is just called "sharename" anyway to change that?04:56
Ender_WigginPromise thats the last thing!04:57
Ender_Wiggin=304:57
xanguago team venture!04:57
daftykinshahaha04:57
daftykinsyeah you change [sharename] to something else04:57
Ender_Wiggingot it! thanks04:57
daftykinswith no spaces04:57
daftykinsxangua: adventure? 8D04:57
Ender_Wigginty ty04:58
Ender_Wigginill ask someone else later bout the double reboot issue04:58
Ender_Wiggino7 thanks again! see ya05:00
daftykins\o05:00
leiminghi05:00
daftykinsLO05:01
daftykinsoops lo05:01
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mdufforWhat is the best way to organize the launcher along the left side of the Ubuntu desktop?  Is there a good shelf extension?  As it is, with 43-ish icons, the auto-expand approach it uses by default is kinda crap.05:03
xanguaif by ubuntu deskto you mean Unity, there are no "gnome shell extensions" for it05:03
reisiomduffor: what would you prefer?05:03
xanguaand I would just learn to use the launcher mduffor05:03
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mdufforWell, the default Unity launcher doesn't deal with lots of icons well.  The first 18-20 or so are displayed fine, with the rest bunched up at the bottom.  The bunched icons are not well managed, because if you put your cursor over the launcher, move the cursor down, and then move the cursor off, the icons shift around so that when you move back onto the launcher you are over a different icon.  Contrast this with OSX or some of the05:06
mduffor other Linux toolbars where if you move your cursor on or off of the bar at the same location you get the same app.05:06
mdufforxangua: Is there more to the launcher than just moving your cursor over it and then moving the cursor up and down to scroll the icons?  I understand how to use it, it is just lousy.05:07
mdufforSince Ubuntu got rid of hierarchical menus and moved to the search utility, discoverability has suffered.05:08
mdufforShelves would at least allow putting graphics apps together, or tucking the configuration apps away that I use infrequently05:09
xanguamduffor: you can actually see the categories in the Apps tab05:10
xangua(filter results)05:11
xanguaso you can see internet apps in internet, graphic apps in graphics, and so one, ass always ;)05:12
mdufforBut even with the filter results, you still need to enter a search term for it to display anything, right?05:14
angelleguys05:14
angelleshould I install Ubuntu over windows 10?05:14
xanguaif you want to angelle05:14
Ben64only you can decide that05:14
daftykinsdoes 'over' in this sentence mean as a preference, or 'over' as in overwrite?05:15
angelleif I was your lover or wife or gf what would you say?05:15
daftykinsi would say stop acting weird on freenode05:15
xanguait would be her choice, I'm not her owner05:15
Johnny_LinuxD`oh!05:15
angellebut you would give an advice to your liver wouldn't you?05:15
angellelover.05:16
daftykinsmy liver gets what i feed it and nothing more05:16
Johnny_Linuxel oh el05:16
angelleI meant lover05:16
mdufforxangua: So to see what Graphics apps I have, I click on the Search icon, click on Applications, click to open Filter results, click to select graphics, then click on see more results, and have to scroll because the icons are so huge and in a grid view.  That's much clunkier than a hierarchical menu IMHO.05:16
angellewhat's the newest version of Ubuntu?05:17
daftykins15.0405:17
angellethe last one I tried was I think Ubuntu 1105:17
angelleor 1205:17
daftykinsok05:17
angellei think 15 has finally that 3d thing isn't it?05:17
xanguamduffor: then install the appmenu indicator thing05:17
xanguahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available05:17
angellewhat are pros and cons of installing Ubuntu?05:18
Johnny_Linuxsecurity, for one05:18
daftykinsangelle: either do it if you want to try it, or don't - i don't see any reason to be asking all these deep questions05:19
daftykinsyou can even try it *without* installing05:19
angellelook I have to know before using it right?05:19
xanguado or do not, there is no try05:19
daftykinsangelle: not really05:19
angelleit's just like with buying car I won't be driving it around for days to find out the if I like it or not05:19
daftykinse.g. i bet you never asked this of Windows :>05:19
angelleI have to buy05:19
daftykinsi disagree with that05:20
angellethat's why I came here to ask what are the pros and cons of installing Ubuntu 1505:20
cfhowlettangelle, so try the live boot session without installing.  problem solved.05:20
daftykinsangelle: download, put on USB flash drive, boot, test... everyone wins05:20
cfhowlettangelle, why ask?  just test it for yourself.  easy.  also: YOU'RE the user.  YOUR opinion is what matters.05:20
daftykinscfhowlett: +105:21
angelledaftykins wins?05:21
angelleare you saying everybody use wins?05:21
angellewindows?05:21
daftykinssigh. i'm beginning to think you're just a timewasting troll05:21
cfhowlettangelle, of course that's not what he said.  don't be thick. don't troll05:21
daftykins!manual | angelle anyway read here for more.05:22
ubottuangelle anyway read here for more.: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/05:22
angelledaftykins stop calling people trolls for asking technical questions about Ubuntu05:22
angelleOK?05:22
daftykinsyou are not asking anything technical.05:22
cfhowlettangelle, your question has been asked/answered repeatedly.  time to move on.05:23
angellewhat are pros and cons of installing Ubuntu 15?05:23
angellenow you can answer daftykins05:23
cfhowlett!ubuntu | angelle read the wiki.05:23
ubottuangelle read the wiki.: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com05:23
daftykinsangelle: no, i am done with you.05:23
angelleyour done?05:24
angelleyou're the troll05:24
cfhowlettas am I.  one more name added to /ignore.05:24
angelleI asked simple questions and you refuse to answer05:24
angellethat's not nice daftykins05:24
daftykinsyep a troll that hangs around and gives help for free, how dare i05:24
daftykinsoh grow up you pathetic excuse for a human being05:24
angelleyou didn't give any help05:24
angelleI asked you didn't answer.05:24
daftykinsi have deemed you unworthy.05:25
daftykinsbye bye05:25
xanguadaftykins: you are gona explode D: pls no05:25
daftykinsg'night fellow helpers o/05:25
angelledaftykins we dint really need you in our channel05:25
angellego join windows.05:25
daftykinsplease stop trolling.05:26
mdufforangelle: Ubuntu is a decent distribution of Linux.  If you are interested in running Linux, Ubuntu makes it easy to try it out.  Ubuntu has the standard stuff you'd expect in an OS, but probably won't run some of the Windows apps you may be used to.  Sometimes there are alternatives to these apps that may get the job done for you.05:26
angellewill blackberry desktop manager run in Ubuntu?05:27
mdufforangelle:  Ubuntu is free to try out, and you can try it out without having to install over your existing OS.  But you'll need to test it yourself to see if it suits your needs or not.05:27
mdufforI'm unfamiliar with blackberry desktop manager.  You'll need to google for that answer.05:27
angellemduffor you're really way more professional than daftykins05:28
angelleI have to go now because of my bf is bothering me I think he wants a sex05:30
angelleI will come back in an hour or two05:30
angelletake care guys05:30
bert88stacan anyone help me with a shellscript05:33
dreamonI want to use ubuntu printer server on local network to use without password asking.. what do I have to chance in standard settings of cupsd.conf?05:33
attlasbotcan someone help me get my fn keys working on xubuntu??05:52
JervacAnyone know to solve the black window problem with steam?06:01
Lem2hi all, recently started using 15.04 and seem to be having pulseaudio issues, particularly with mpd. pulseaudio seems to be getting started twice (lightdm starts it), then mpd will start another instance06:04
Lem2brb06:07
mobeousHey guys. Is there a way to change my laptop to ubuntu touch?06:07
mobeousOr can I do a fresh install?06:08
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colin_hello06:15
lotuspsychje!touch | mobeous06:16
ubottumobeous: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch06:16
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mobeousubottu: now you're just being rude06:18
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l9ubottu: i need too run a os windowed, can that be done and how ?06:24
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multidexhi ubuntu people06:30
michaelrosequestion on various discussions I hear people saying somehow the transition to snappy packages will eliminate dependency problems, does anyone actually have those?07:00
michaelroselarger question does anyone think snappy packages are a great idea07:03
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mikodoI've made a mess of my gufw and ufw ... I want to stop it and go with Ubuntu's that is installed for my one and only machine. Can I shut it off, then reboot, and will Ubuntu's default firewall settings kick it07:27
mikodo*kick in07:27
gallyneroIn ubuntu cloud, i can add external nodes or only accept local network nodes?07:28
mikodo^^^ shut off Gufw I meant, and then reboot07:29
Fjorgynnmorning07:30
Fjorgynnohai07:38
xchatterWhich program can I use to print business cards?07:46
xchatterIs there anything that comes with Ubuntu?07:46
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mvk when i install an application in /opt, what chmod should i give that directory?07:54
lotuspsychjexchatter: normally you can use libreoffice to do that08:00
MonkeyDustxchatter  or inkscape08:01
jellowmvk: 755? (rwx, xr,xr). Don't think really matters08:03
xchatterlotuspsychje, thx08:06
xchatterlotuspsychje, with libre office writer ?08:10
murosaiare all debian packages based on a compiled upstream version of the software or is it possible that some packages have some usermade patches?08:11
kypehey guys, im new to ubuntu and now im stuck on the workspace switcher08:12
kypeIs there any way to get back to one desktop08:13
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toqozkype: dont you just click workspace 1 or something?08:14
kypetoqoz: No it doesnt work08:15
jellowkype: ctrl-alt <arrow keys>?08:15
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MonkeyDustkype  install unity-tweak, use it to change the number of desktops08:16
kypejellow: The cursor moves - but it doesnt zoom in on the one desktop08:16
kypeAh it was a bug, when dragging windows across workspaces08:18
kypehad to restart ubuntu08:18
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murosaican i use a package from debian repo? it seems that debian has applied some pathches to the package that ubuntu has not done08:26
MonkeyDustmurosai  don't mix software sources08:28
hiexpoMonkeyDust, he's in debian trying to get help the also08:37
hiexpo^there08:37
ikoniathen it stops in here08:40
cykingi'm trying to understand the instructions for my bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1453391  Which specific kernel to they want me to test?08:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1453391 in linux (Ubuntu) "Very slow Qualcomm Atheros AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 Gigabit or Fast Ethernet (rev b0)" [Medium,Incomplete]08:40
hiexpoholla ikonia08:42
cykingdoes it mean i should test v4.1-rc2-vivid ?08:43
yorwosguyz just wondering , if i changed my mac adress for a few hours , and then realised i had lost the original mac adress to revert later , is there any way to see my mac adress history or something ? (i had saved it in a txt ,i finally found it, just curious if i hadnt been able to find it at all)09:00
ikoniawho see the history ?09:01
EriC^^yorwos: if you reboot it'll change back anyways09:01
yorwosohhh i didnt know that , cool thanx eric :)09:01
EriC^^np :)09:01
yorwosim off ..take care cya09:06
SVCR3D-SHVD0WSthis isint really a ubuntu issue but im at my wits end and cant find anyhelp anywhere.. if someone can tell me what i am supsoed to do to fix this... http://pastebin.com/SKStxjkQ09:11
ikoniait's complaining something is missing - investiate what09:13
MonkeyDustSVCR3D-SHVD0WS  it's snort error, that's some intrusion detection tool09:15
MonkeyDustit's a*09:15
MonkeyDustSVCR3D-SHVD0WS  do you want to install that?09:16
SVCR3D-SHVD0WSyea ive been trying to configure it for the past 3 days and have been doing alright until this error 2 days ago, ive searched through google for the past 2 days now09:27
SVCR3D-SHVD0WSand yes, yes i deffintly do lol MonkeyDust09:28
ikoniamaybe talk to the snort guys09:28
ikoniaor use an official ubuntu install and guide09:28
SVCR3D-SHVD0WSikonia, i know the snort channel is utterly useless, there the only people that havent replied... im clutching for straws at this point aha09:30
ikoniait is not useless09:30
ikoniaeither use snort guide - or use an official ubuntu install09:31
SVCR3D-SHVD0WSand i looked through the guide and used the search function on my pc on the guide- couldent find anything to trouble shoot it, i have already went through it.. the only thing i think it could be is the file libsf_dce2_preproc.so is corupted or missing something crucial09:32
ikoniaeither use snort guide - or use an official ubuntu install09:32
SVCR3D-SHVD0WSnot the guide that was helpfull but the snort channel not so much09:32
Trudkohi guys is there some decent and easy to setup support for voice commands on ubuntu? Something like turn on turn off run command ?09:39
HewloThereHi guys. I'm having serious issues. I'm on Ubuntu 15.04 and I don't know if I'm retarded or not but I can't seem to install Java.09:39
HewloThereI tried apt-get install default-jre, I tried downloading the file from the Java website but I have no idea how to install it?09:40
ikoniaI'd try to explain a bit better than that09:40
HewloThereNote, I cannot restart my PC.09:41
ikoniaI'd try to explain a bit better than that09:41
AR45clear09:41
HewloThereBasically, how can I install a file that came from a tar.gz file?09:41
AR45Im sorry.09:41
ikoniaHewloThere: that is not what you asked, you asked how to install java09:41
ikoniaAR45: no problem09:41
HewloThereI'm completely new to Ubuntu desktop.09:41
ikoniaHewloThere: https://help.ubuntu.com is an excellent introduction09:42
ikoniaanswers a lot of basic first time user questions and situations09:42
HewloThereYes. And I am installing Java, but I cannot figure out how to do it from the tar.gz.09:42
ikoniadon't use a tar.gz09:42
ikoniause the ubuntu package manager09:42
ikoniaand read https://help.ubuntu.com for an introduction to the basics09:42
webmobsterHi, I installed ubuntu with brtfs last night, but installer seems to have mucked up my fstab a bit, does anyone know how to safetly remove a brtfs subvolume mounted to the same mount pount as a normal partition? /dev/sdb1 on /home type btrfs (rw,subvol=@home) /dev/sdb2 on /home type btrfs (rw)09:59
anandhhi friends10:04
anandhi am facing problem in detecting my mobile device from the usb port10:05
anandhcouldnt able to mount the device10:05
anandhis the error .. as i am a newbie10:05
anandhcan any one help to detect it10:06
ikoniamost of the time it will because it can't mount/detect it as an mtp device (could be other things) but that is the most common cause10:06
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anandhikonia, so wat is the solution?10:07
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cristian_canandh, what ubuntu release?10:11
anandh1210:11
cristian_canandh, 12.04?10:13
anandhyes10:13
anandhit is 12.0410:13
anandh:)10:13
cristian_canandh, 14.04 supports mtp devices better10:13
anandhok u mean uprading will surely help10:14
cristian_canandh, anyway, you can also set your device in msc mode, if available10:14
anandhwhat is msc mode and how to set it10:14
cristian_canandh, you can try in live mode10:14
cristian_canandh, mass storage class, you can set it in you device10:14
anandhcristian_c,  I am sorry buddy , but i am totally unaware about the modes you are talking about10:15
anandhok10:15
cristian_canandh, it's an android setting10:15
anandhoh k10:15
cristian_cbut it's an ubuntu channel, so...10:15
anandhit should be done in my device it self right?10:15
cristian_cyes, if available10:15
anandhokay .. thanks for your feedback ...10:16
cristian_cchanging from mtp to mass storage10:16
anandhi will try setting that option if not found will upgrade to ubuntu 1410:16
cristian_canandh, 14.04 is good for mtp mode too10:16
anandh:)10:16
cristian_canandh, you can try 14.04 in live mode, to be sure10:16
cristian_cwithout installing it10:17
anandhlive mode ?10:17
cristian_canandh, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install10:17
cristian_chttps://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/latest/u/img/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install/image-tryubuntubeforeyouinstall-1.jpg10:18
anandhi understand you are talking about some kind of virtualiztion environment10:18
cristian_canandh, no no10:18
anandhok10:18
cristian_canandh, read to the link10:18
anandhi mean without installing can explore the ubuntu1410:19
cristian_c'try ubuntu' instead of 'install ubuntu'10:19
anandhany ways thanks a ton i will first read the link10:19
cristian_cok10:19
anandhyes :)10:19
anandhgot it10:19
ePiratHello10:37
ePiratWhere to go for ubuntu kernel related stuff? is there a special channel?10:37
MonkeyDustePirat  try #ubuntu-kernel10:38
ePiratthx10:38
attlasbotwhat are some must have applications for ubuntu10:48
amazonhi guys10:48
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MonkeyDustattlasbot  a file browser and an internet browser10:49
amazonhow high is the commission ubuntu receives on each product bought through the ubuntu amazon app10:49
amazon?10:49
bekks0€.10:50
amazonbekks hows that. they create ref links or not?10:50
MonkeyDustamazon  what brings you here?10:51
amazonmonkeydust just wanted to know. i bought 200e worth of stuff on amazon through the app to donate the commission yo ubuntu and was wondering how high it is10:52
ozkanla noliye10:53
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MonkeyDustozkan  it works, we see you10:54
SCHAAP137ozkan, #ubuntu-tr10:54
ozkankendine bak la daha onu düzgün yazamıyo10:54
ozkanorospu çocuğu10:55
amazonmonkey dust do u know how high it is?10:55
ozkansikerim götünü10:55
SCHAAP137türk kanalı10:55
bekks!tr | ozkan10:55
ubottuozkan: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.10:55
ozkanne10:55
SCHAAP137biz Türk dili anlamıyorum10:55
ozkannasıl oda değiştiriliyor10:55
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SCHAAP137time for another espresso10:56
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Johnny_Linuxohluh10:58
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cristian_cozkan, please use #ubuntu-tr channel10:58
amazonhow high is the commission ubuntu receives on each product bought through the ubuntu amazon app10:59
ozkankonuÅŸma lan10:59
ikoniadelta9410:59
amazoni dont speak turk very well speak english orusbucucu11:00
ikoniadelta9411:00
amazonping ikonia11:00
Fjorgynnanyone using cryptsetup?11:01
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Trudkohi guys is there some decent and easy to setup support for voice commands on ubuntu? Something like turn on turn off run command ?11:14
MonkeyDustTrudko  you mean speech recognition?11:15
vitimitiTrudko, what about this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/194378/how-do-i-install-and-use-voice-commands11:16
uporothi all! my touchpad is not right worked.how i can restart touchpad driver without reboot ubuntu ?11:16
MonkeyDust!touch | uporot11:18
ubottuuporot: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch11:18
uporotis not worked touchpad on my netbook11:19
uporotthis is mouse11:19
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HoloIRCUser2hello11:22
zilHi there11:23
zilMy sound has stopped working11:23
zilI've tried uninstalling pulseaudio11:23
ziland reinstalling it11:23
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zilI've tried renaming the .config/pulse folder and restarting11:24
faazhi,i have configured WordNet after that it said: Installation directory: /usr/local/WordNet-3.0 but i see no WordNet file in /usr/local ,whats the problem?11:24
zilI'm not sure what else to do, there is no speaker icon11:25
zilI'm using ubuntu 14.04 LTS11:25
zilI'm unable to run pulseaudio device chooser11:28
attlasbothow do you install pip3 on ubuntu 15.0411:28
Fjorgynn:D11:30
Fjorgynnwhat is pip3?11:30
attlasbotpython packaging11:31
* TengokuNoIsan sneaks in and leaves a platter of chocolate sriracha bacon11:32
SienteHello guys, when I try to install kubuntu or ubuntu my installation is always crashing: http://www.azlatev.com/snapshot1.png11:47
BluesKajHey folks11:51
faazwhy do i have no file in instalation directory after ./configure ?11:51
EriC^^faaz: ?11:54
EriC^^faaz: what are you trying to install?11:54
uporotwhat server best use on ubuntu? for php dev11:56
MonkeyDustuporot  14.04 lts11:57
nith1210uporot: It's a question of preference but your two strongest options are probably Apache2 and Nginx. I believe Apache2 to be easier to get started.11:58
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nith1210!apache > uporot12:00
ubottuuporot, please see my private message12:00
uporotok!12:00
nith1210!php > uporot12:00
ubottuuporot, please see my private message12:00
nith1210And I'll stop, hope that helps :)12:00
uporotubottu, tnx)12:03
uporotnith1210 , thx12:03
wuschLORhi there I#m trying to make kate dafault editor for git instead of vim or nano - but git config --global core.editor 'kate' doesnt work12:28
wuschLORactualy it just works when kate is not open12:29
SienteGuys, when I try to install kubuntu or ubuntu my installation is always crashing: http://www.azlatev.com/snapshot1.png12:33
bhangotahow to fix mouse's cursor blinking in ubuntu 15 ?12:33
bhangotaIt starts randomly disappearing and flickering a lot.12:35
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rainbowwarriorhello how do i enable my webcam and mic in Ubuntu 15.04 for firefox and adobe flash please ?12:49
cristian_crainbowwarrior, http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/it/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html12:52
cristian_csorry12:53
cristian_crainbowwarrior, http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html12:53
rainbowwarriorcristian_c thank you12:53
ikoniadepending on flash is just going to cause you problems12:53
cristian_crainbowwarrior, the second link12:53
ikoniait's pretty much dead for linux in real terms12:53
rainbowwarriorikonia ok thank you12:54
rainbowwarriorcristian_c,  got it thank you12:54
[976497]A[ubuntu 14.04] how to create another user with his home directory?12:55
cristian_crainbowwarrior, if you access to a website that requests you webcam (and mic), right click on flash content and select Flash settings to check webcam support and permissions12:55
rainbowwarriorcristian_c , ok thank you12:56
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Lokust_hi12:57
rainbowwarriorcristian_c , ikonia got it working it wanted me to give it permission manually12:59
cristian_cgood13:04
danielDaniel hello13:04
nith1210Siente: While installing, was there a checkbox or something which indicated it would download extra packages or upgrade during the installation?13:11
ikoniayes there is13:11
ghostkidhello everybody13:12
Fjorgynnand you to13:12
Sientenith1210, yes13:13
nith1210Siente: please try again and this time ensure that it is unchecked. (though I imagine #kubuntu could help more).13:13
Sientenith1210, but I have the same problem with ubuntu too13:13
nith1210Siente: yup, it has the same checkbox. Try without that checked and run updates after it's installed.13:14
Sientenith1210, it's not only with kubuntu I've tried to install ubuntu as well and again my installation is crashing13:14
Fjorgynnthat's bad13:14
Sientenith1210, there are 2 checkbox I should let them unchecked?13:14
nith1210Siente: You'll have to remind me specifically what they say, sorry.13:14
Fjorgynnone is for updating the system and one is for installing flash, mp3 and such13:15
Sienteyes13:15
Fjorgynnyes leave atleast "update" unchecked13:15
nith1210Ahh, yes, uncheck them both. You can install them later.13:15
Sienteokay13:15
Fjorgynnwhen you have installed linux you will get a prompt saying "There are a lot of updates"13:16
ghostkidwhat we could talk about?13:16
Fjorgynnghostkid: LUKS and cryptsetup13:16
Sienteokay13:16
ikoniathe channel topic is ubuntu technical support, please try to keep to that topic please13:18
delgoshelp13:18
delgos#help13:19
Fjorgynnikonia: isn't it that what we are talking about here?13:19
FjorgynnHow to install Ubuntu without failing and crashing the installation?13:19
ikonialooks like it13:19
ikoniawhat part is it crashing, what version and arch of ubuntu are you using?13:19
Fjorgynnikonia: ask Siente13:20
Fjorgynn14:33:11 < Siente> Guys, when I try to install kubuntu or ubuntu my installation is always crashing: http://www.azlatev.com/snapshot1.png13:20
SienteI tried ubuntu 14.04.02 and 15.04 and kubuntu 15.0413:21
tewardwhat architecture?  amd64?  i386?  armhf?  powerpc?  etc.13:21
tewardSiente: ^13:21
Siente6413:21
Fjorgynndoes ubuntu still support powerpc?13:21
tewardFjorgynn: still worth asking, you know.  :P13:21
Fjorgynn:P13:21
ikoniaPPC is pretty much dead13:21
FjorgynnDebian is supporting everything, even the FOrd Model T, I know that.13:22
ikoniathere is a community port and the lubuntu guys try to put effort into it - but it's just not there13:22
nith1210Siente: Any luck?13:26
Sientenith1210, I haven't tried yet, because I am going to install it on this pc on another partition13:26
nith1210Siente: Ahh, ok13:26
ivan_guys13:29
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Guest38961guys13:29
Guest38961i need help13:29
nith1210!help13:30
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:30
Sientenith1210, I am going to do it now13:30
Guest38961!help13:30
TengokuNoIsanCRAP!13:30
TengokuNoIsanNo one move!13:30
TengokuNoIsanI dropped a contact lens!13:30
* TengokuNoIsan searches13:30
Guest38961I cant run skype it always crash13:30
* TengokuNoIsan hears a crunch from under Guest38961's foot!13:31
TengokuNoIsanNOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!13:31
nith1210!offtopic | TengokuNoIsan13:31
ubottuTengokuNoIsan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:31
faazhi,welcome fereydoon :)13:34
jellowGuest25578: does it output anything? do you have a .skype folder in your home folder?13:35
jellow!skype | jellow13:36
ubottujellow, please see my private message13:36
kate_Hi guys13:40
kate_I have problem upgrading my ubuntu 12.04 to version 14.0413:40
kate_While upgrading I get the error "Third party sources disabled"13:41
kate_What shoul I do now?13:41
kate_should*13:41
kate_Can anyone please help?13:43
kate_I have problem upgrading my ubuntu13:44
kate_:'((13:44
nith1210kate_: Are you using the gui or the terminal to do this?13:45
kate_I m using the gui13:45
kate_nith1210_13:45
jellowkate_: just re-enable them once you've finished upgrade13:45
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kate_jellow_: Beside the upgrading problem, I can t even update ubuntu13:47
jellowkate_: apt-get update does not work?13:48
kate_jellow_: Nope!13:49
jellowkate_: can you paste the output on pastebinit of apt-get update?13:49
kate_jellow_: Here's the error:13:51
kate_Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Translation-en          Get:7 http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex [1,540 B]               Fetched 1,099 kB in 2min 6s (8,698 B/s)        W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/main/i18n/Index  No Hash entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Index  E: Some index files failed13:51
jellow!paste | kate_13:51
ubottukate_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:51
ubuntuser13libreoffice: extension manager: exception in sychronize. how to solve this?13:52
cfhowlettkate apt-get update DOES work ... it's just that particular package that's failing.  try a different mirro13:52
bazhangor just comment out the google mirror13:52
kate_I pasted in pastebin :D13:53
bazhangubuntuser13, try the libreoffice channel for that13:53
ubuntuser13bazhang: Thanks13:53
kate_jellow_: How can you see my text now?13:54
auronandacekate_: you need to post the url here13:54
kate_jellow_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11062305/13:55
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kate_auronandace_13:55
gosh<kate_> i see you.. i'm super new, i hope you get this message13:55
goshis this a support forum for ubuntu users?13:55
cfhowlettgosh, it is.  ask your questions13:56
kate_gosh: Yeap13:57
goshi want to install xubuntu on my new computer, which has no os. i wonder how to do it in such a way that will let me install windows later on if i want to.13:57
cfhowlettgosh, install windows first13:57
xanguagosh: install windows first would be easier13:58
xangua!dualboot13:58
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot13:58
auronandacegosh: installing windows is separate, you'd need to make sure you partition your harddrive in advance, but windows will overwrite your bootloader13:58
goshthats easy. but atm i dont have windows.13:58
jellowkate_:  can you open the program Synaptic?13:58
jellowkate_:  System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager13:59
goshauronandace if i find out how to install xubuntu before windows while partitioning my harddrive, will windows later on still overwrite xubuntu?14:01
goshauronandace: if i find out how to install xubuntu before windows while partitioning my harddrive, will windows later on still overwrite xubuntu?14:01
faazwhy do i see no installation directory on /usr/local after ./configure?14:02
auronandacegosh: if you install windows to the partition you choose then xubuntu will be untouched, but you will need to reinstall the bootloader14:02
faazi am trying to install wordnet on ubuntu 14.0414:03
kate_jellow: Sorry I cannot find it. Is it in "System Settings" under System part?14:03
auronandacegosh: windows will always assume it is the only operating system and put its bootloader first ignoring anything else14:03
huijaais that an irc-chat ?14:04
jellow!wordnet | faaz14:04
cfhowletthuijaa, this is ubuntu support.  topic is ubuntu.14:04
kate_jellow: Guess I do not have it installed14:04
huijaaow thanks.... i have ubuntu mate on my pi214:04
faazjellow, yes wordNet14:04
bazhang!info wordnet14:05
ubottuwordnet (source: wordnet): electronic lexical database of English language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.0-33 (vivid), package size 54 kB, installed size 173 kB14:05
kate_jellow: Should I install it?14:05
auronandacekate_: synaptic is not installed by default anymore14:05
huijaaok see ya later...14:05
jellowfaaz: It is in repo http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/wordnet , there a reason you don't install that version?14:06
goshauronandace: could you help me understand better: it is possible to install xubuntu before windows, but i will have to deal with reinstalling the bootloader so that what won't happen?14:07
kate_auronandace: I m installing it by the way14:07
jellowkate_: hmm do you have ubuntu software center in main menu?14:08
auronandacegosh: windows will always overwrite the bootloader, that is why it is recommended to install it first, you can't avoid windows overwriting the bootloader if you install after any OS14:08
cfhowlettgosh, if you install windows after ubuntu, windows *WILL* overwrite the bootloader.  deal with it.14:08
kate_jellow: yes14:08
goshauronandace: :)14:09
jellowkate_: Ubuntu Software Center : >> Edit, Software Sources and then disable the PPAs in "other Software" tab ?14:09
[976497]A[ubuntu 14.04] how to create another user together with his home directory?14:12
SchrodingersScat!adduser | [976497]A14:12
ubottu[976497]A: To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "sudo" - See !sudo14:12
cfhowlett!adduser | [976497]A14:12
kate_jellow: You mean I should uncheck all the PPAs?14:13
auronandace[976497]A: check out system settings > user accounts if you want a gui way of doing it14:13
[976497]Aadduser is not creating additional directory in home folder14:13
jellowkate_: Yes you can re-enable them once you've finished upgrading your system.14:13
auronandacekate_: keep in mind that you should only use a PPA that corresponds to the release you are running14:14
faazjellow,i am trying to install WordNet-3.0.14:15
[976497]Aauronandace: I don't want a gui way and adduser command is not adding additional directory.14:15
kate_jellow: Is the PPA: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/stable actually lead me to failure?14:15
jellowkate_: Package manager was only warning that it could not find it, I don't think it could have affected upgrade14:16
faazjellow, i have resently upgrated my ubuntu and my updates are not complete can this be the resaon that i have no instalation directory on /usr/local after ./configure?14:17
Sientenith1210, hello I've tried to install ubuntu 14.04.02 offline and it's crashing again ?14:19
caprurohi14:19
fausthi14:20
faustis it true that ubuntu "desktop" will switch to snappy as PM ?14:20
nith1210Siente: Are you still on the installed version?14:20
nith1210Siente: or rather, are you still one the live session14:21
Sientenith1210, no14:21
kate_jellow: I unchecked all the PPAs, now should run apt-get update?14:21
jellowfaaz: I don't know why would ./configure create /usr/local? usually it is just a matter of ./configure && make && make install. You can manually move things to /usr/local/src but should not make difference14:22
muhajirulala :v14:22
muhajirkimochi :v14:22
auronandacefaaz: why are you compiling wordnet when it is in the repos?14:22
jellowkate_: yes14:22
muhajirikkeh ikkeh kimochi :v14:22
muhajiroppai :v14:22
muhajirikkeh ikkeh kimochi yamate kudasai :v14:23
muhajiroppai daisuki :v14:23
muhajir<b> bello </b>14:23
nith1210Siente: When you start up your live session, go to the "try" option. You should be able to use an IRC client from there and I can help you directly14:23
nith1210Siente: Otherwise, it's a long and arduous guess and check.14:24
muhajirkimochiii :v14:24
jellowfaaz: version 3.0-26.1 wordnet is in repo just confirm that is not what you want?14:25
faazauronandace, i dont know what is repos?14:25
auronandacefaaz: repositories14:25
auronandacefaaz: you use a package manager to manage the software on your system, the software is stored in a repository14:26
kate_jellow: This time, I got the same warning and more errors!14:26
auronandacefaaz: this is the way most linux distros install software which is quite different to the windows approach14:26
auronandace!software | faaz14:27
ubottufaaz: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents14:27
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jellowfaaz: you could try running sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install wordnet-gui14:28
ghutzriopHi I mounted a smb share with nautilus on ubuntu 15.04. how do I access the files by terminal? /run/user/1000/gvfs is empty14:28
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kate_jellow: Here's the output, I pasted in pastebin.14:28
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jellowkate_: we need the pastebin link.14:29
kate_jellow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11062834/14:29
faazjellow,my updates are not complete yet its for the first time and takes time so i stoped it and trying to install wordnet14:30
auronandacekate_: you have more than one package manager running14:30
faazafter ./configure i get his message :WordNet is now configured    Installation directory:               /usr/local/WordNet-3.0 ,but dont have this directory.14:31
cfhowlett!aptlock | kate_14:31
ubottukate_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »14:31
bazhangfaaz, finish the update, install wordnet from ubuntu sources, no reason at all to compile it14:32
auronandacekate_: if you are trying to run apt-get while you have synaptic or the software centre open you will get that lock message14:32
kate_auronandace: how to know that there is two running?14:32
bazhangfaaz, going outside package management means you have to manually upgrade it every time14:32
kate_auronandace: aha14:33
Sientenith1210, okay I'll do it are you still there?14:38
muhajirchimori14:38
jellowfaaz: I can help you compile it but your really update system and use the package manager ..14:38
muhajirhey14:38
muhajirwhat's up14:38
bazhangmuhajir, stop that14:38
muhajiryeah?14:38
bazhangthis is ubuntu support only muhajir14:38
muhajiroh i am sorry14:39
muhajiri am new to irc14:39
kate_auronandace: I closed software center, also I was installing synaptic, but I still got the lock message after updating14:39
bazhangmuhajir, take that chat somewhere else14:39
cfhowlettkate_, I sent you the !aptlock message.  read and heed14:39
kate_auronandace: Is it possible that synaptic is running?14:39
[976497]Awhen using adduser command additional user folder in home directory doesn't appear. why?14:40
kate_cfhowlett: where is it?14:40
cfhowlett!aptlock | kate_14:40
auronandacekate_: if you are sure that there is nothing else doing package management then try doing what the message says in !aptlock14:40
cfhowlett[976497]A, user has to login to initiate the /home creation process14:41
Zaitzev[976497]A: useradd -m USERNAME14:42
[976497]Acfhowlett: what command is initiating /home creation process?14:42
capruro[976497]A: you must use useradd -m [username]14:42
[976497]Aok, i'll try14:42
ajxier_Hi14:42
ajxier_Anyone with dual boot and preinstaled windows 8?14:42
ZaitzevI have dualboot on this laptop yes14:43
ajxier_did you lost something?14:43
Zaitzevno14:43
faazi can let the update finish and then install wordnet it takes time so i wanted to have wordnet sooner dont know how14:44
ajxier_Zaitzev: can you tell me where did you found tutorial about resize ntfs safe?14:44
bazhangfaaz, thats a very bad idea14:44
auronandacefaaz: updates don't take too long unless you have a slow internet connection14:44
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sondacan anyone tell me good note taking app for ubuntu14:45
sondai should be able to write anywhere14:46
ZaitzevEvernote via wine :)14:46
sondainstant search facility should be there14:46
sondai don't want to use wine14:46
cfhowlett+1 evernote14:46
ikoniagedit?14:46
auronandacefaaz: package managers are used to manage software on your system for a reason, trying to install things without a package management system (such as compiling) makes it very difficult to keep things up to date. I'm sure you don't want to compile every single update manually14:47
Zaitzevajxier_: I never did that14:47
ajxier_Zaitzev: I don't understand you14:47
ajxier_you just said  yo did14:47
ajxier_Are you with dual boot?14:47
ZaitzevI said I got Windows 8 and Ubuntu dual boot14:47
sondanot gedit14:48
ZaitzevI never stated that I found a tutorial on ntfs resizing ;)14:48
sondalike onenote14:48
ajxier_Zaitzev: how did you do that?14:48
sondai should be able to write anywhere14:48
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bazhang!equivalents | sonda14:48
ubottusonda: A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant14:48
Zaitzevajxier_:  Well, I formatted the drive first and foremost, since I like to start fresh when doing anything OS14:48
ikoniawrite anywhere ?14:48
ikoniayou want a note taking app - that you can write antwhere ???14:49
ajxier_Zaitzev: I have warrnaty..14:49
ikoniawhat's wrong with a simple text editor ?14:49
bazhanghe wants some 'portable app'14:49
ikoniaportable ?14:49
ikoniaportable to what ?14:49
Zaitzevajxier_: Read through this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported14:49
cfhowlettcross platform > portable14:49
ZaitzevIf he installs it on a laptop it's portable :D14:49
bazhangread the link I gave you sonda14:49
ikoniagvim14:49
ikoniayou can use that on both14:49
faazok but i was scared not to be able to install WordNet on ubuntu 14.04 at all and need to chang to 12.0414:50
ikoniaisn't there a nano port too14:50
ajxier_Zaitzev: I'm about reading this14:50
sondabut i don't find note taking app there14:50
bazhangfaaz, just complete the update, no need to completely change version, whihc will means many many more updates14:51
ajxier_sonda: go to ubuntu ubuntu software14:51
jellowfaaz: you can compile just better you use package manger, just create the directory that ./configure wants14:51
bazhang!info wordnet | faaz install this14:51
ubottufaaz install this: wordnet (source: wordnet): electronic lexical database of English language. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.0-33 (vivid), package size 54 kB, installed size 173 kB14:51
faazbazhang, i dont know what do you mean by these signes : !blabla | blabla14:54
akronixhi, what's up with eclipse? there has been past years without being updated to the main repository!!!14:54
auronandacefaaz: that is a message to the bot to tell you something14:54
auronandace!bot14:54
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | Make a clone of me: /msg ubottu botclone14:55
bazhangfaaz, complete the update: STEP ONE14:55
faazbazhang,ok ok :)14:55
bazhangfaaz sudo apt-get install wordnet : step two14:55
akronixand there's no even a ppa to add for this14:55
bazhang!eclipse14:56
kate_auronandace: the output of apt-get update:14:56
kate_http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063090/14:56
bazhangakronix, what does their website have14:56
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kate_auronandace: Are you still there?14:57
kate_jellow: Are you there?14:58
auronandacekate_: it seems you still haven't disabled the chrome repo14:58
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OerHeksDees Iran ( ir.archive.ubuntu.com)  allow you to use chrome?14:59
OerHeks*does14:59
ikoniaallow you ? it's a website15:00
bazhangchrome is a google product/repo15:00
bazhangnot in the ubuntu repos, in other words15:00
kate_auronandace: software center do not launch, I don t know why15:00
OerHeksikonia, i noticed that, but direct download from google servers i mean.15:01
jellowkate_: can you open terminal15:01
kate_auronandace: I think the problem stems from sofware center15:01
kate_jellow:15:01
kate_yes15:01
jellowkate_: do you have pastebinit installed?15:02
jellow!info pastebinit | kate15:02
ubottukate: pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4-4 (vivid), package size 14 kB, installed size 164 kB15:02
ikoniabecause it is on google servers15:02
kate_Is it the same "pastebin"?15:03
jellowkate_: yes will be faster to help you if you have it installed15:03
auronandacekate_: pastebinit is just a commandline tool so you can paste to a pastebin directly from the terminal15:04
kate_auronandace: How to install it?15:05
auronandacekate_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit15:05
jellowkate_: close software manager and synatpic15:05
kate_jellow: ok ;)15:05
sachin I JUST installed the ubuntu studio15:05
sachinwant to know short cut kes15:06
sachinkeys15:06
sachinhow to get ubuntu studio shortcut keys15:07
bazhangsachin shortcut keys for what exactly15:07
harriswhat is the dd command to burn iso to usb15:07
sachingeneral15:08
kate_jellow: I get Unment Dependencies error, while installing pastebinit15:08
sachinfor termimal15:08
sachinfile folder15:08
sachinetc15:08
jellowkate_: pastebin the full error and the command you ran15:08
bazhangsachin,  are you referring to bash commands in the terminal?15:08
sachinexactly15:08
sachini just switched to ubuntu studio from lubuntu15:09
bazhangsachin, those are not ubuntu studio related15:09
auronandaceharris: sudo dd if=/wherever/iso/is of=/wherever/devicename/of/usb15:09
sachinso how to go15:09
bazhangsachin, you need to some reading up on that, theres no way possible to list every bash command here on irc15:10
kate_jellow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063289/15:10
auronandaceharris: so if your usb is /dev/sdb then: sudo dd if=/home/username/Downloads/whatever.iso of=/dev/sdb15:10
sachingive me link15:10
bazhanglink to what sachin15:10
auronandaceharris: it is very important you get the device name correct or you could overwrite something badly15:11
sachinfrom where to read15:11
sachinthe commands15:11
bazhanghttp://www.tldp.org  <-- sachin15:11
kate_jellow: I assert that the software center does not launch and I don t have synoptic15:12
jellowkate_: first things first I recommend you take a backup of important files before upgrading.15:12
kate_jellow: Yes, of course... but what is the problem now15:13
kate_?15:13
kate_let me give u the link for update output:15:13
VoyageI just upgraded to latest kubuntu. I have one external display that I only use. Not the laptop one. I do not see how to disable or turn of the laptop display (there was a checkbox before in the display setting in the older kubuntu.15:14
edvaldoscruzBoa tarde a todos. Alguém sabe me dizeronde localiza a pasta do relógio no sistema do ubuntu ?15:14
kate_jelow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063337/15:14
kate_jellow:15:14
nith1210kate_: /msg ubottu !spanish15:14
bekks!br | edvaldoscruz15:14
ubottuedvaldoscruz: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.15:14
nith1210woops,15:14
sachinits too much bazhang15:15
edvaldoscruzok15:15
kate_jellow: Are still with me?15:15
sachini mean i have to read a lot15:15
bazhangsachin, there are other places on the internet for that, its not an ubuntu specific issue so search for it15:15
auronandacekate_: you still have the chrome repo in there15:15
sachinyes right15:16
sachinthank you very much will go on it now15:16
sachingood day15:16
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nith1210kate_: check out the folder /etc/apt/sources.list.d. Do you have "google-chrome.list" ?15:16
sachinif i want to mail to you15:16
kate_I tried to launch software center to assert it is disabled, but it does not launch15:16
kate_auronandace15:16
sachinwhere i can get your mail id Bazhang15:16
jellowkate_: looks like sources.list is little mixed up likely from upgrading15:16
herchHi15:17
herchTrying out systemd for the first time for launching containers.15:17
bazhangsachin, thats not needed at all15:17
herchGetting this error, Failed pull image: The name org.freedesktop.import1 was not provided by any .service files15:17
herchwhile executing, machinectl pull-dkr --verify=no mattdm/fedora15:17
sachinok good day15:17
herchThis is on ubuntu 15.04.15:17
jellowkate_: can you output to pastebin sudo apt-get install -s -f15:17
herch anyone got a clue?15:17
sondaanyone know of handwriting note taking app for ubuntu?15:17
kate_nith1210: thank you15:18
herch I just want to see how docker containers can be run using systemd15:18
kate_nith1210: yes it was in the folder15:18
kate_Now what to do?15:18
auronandacekate_: you could either remove it or open the file and comment out the repo by putting # before it15:19
nith1210kate_: move it to "google-chrome.list.save" - anything but a ".list"15:20
nith1210kate_: next: sudo apt-get update15:20
nith1210kate_: and pastebin the results please15:20
kate_jellow: The output of sudo apt-get install -s -f:15:21
kate_http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063440/15:21
auronandacekate_: nith1210's suggestion is better than mine15:22
VoyageCan I  downgrade the existing kubuntu.15:23
auronandace!downgrade | Voyage15:24
ubottuVoyage: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.15:24
Voyagegreat15:24
VoyageI just upgraded to latest kubuntu. I have one external display that I only use. Not the laptop one. I do not see how to disable or turn of the laptop display (there was a checkbox before in the display setting in the older kubuntu.15:24
kate_nith1210: You mean override google-chrome.list.save by google-chrome.list?15:27
ioriaVoyage you previous version of Ubuntu ?15:27
auronandacekate_: nith1210 wants you to rename google-chrome.list to google-chrome.list.save15:28
nith1210kate_: I mean rename google-chrome.list to something else which doesn't end in ".list". If there is already a google-chrome.list.save, I'd delete it.15:28
ioriaVoyage your previous version of Kbuntu ?15:28
vitimitiVoyage, there's a #kubuntu channel15:29
kate_nith1210: and also there is a google-chrome.list.distUpgrade15:29
nith1210kate_: You can ignore that15:30
kate_nith1210: What to do with it?15:30
kate_nith1210: ok15:30
Voyageioria, 14.10 I guess15:30
kate_nith1210: so i deleted google-chrome.list.save and rename google-chrome.list to something not ending with .list15:30
Voyagevitimiti,  yes there is15:31
kate_nith1210: ok?15:31
nith1210kate_: perfect, next "sudo apt-get update"15:31
ioriaVoyage Nvidia Optimus ?15:31
Voyageioria,  Intel graphics I beleive15:31
Voyageioria,  but the point is that in the old kubuntu I saw the option to disable. not in current15:32
Voyageioria,  is there anything else be done?15:32
ioria!search kde-workspace-randr15:32
ubottuFound:15:32
ioria!find kde-workspace-randr15:33
ubottuFile kde-workspace-randr found in app-install-data15:33
kate_nith1210: here is the output of apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063645/15:34
nith1210kate_: that tells me you have synaptic or the software center open15:35
auronandacekate_: still got a package manager running?15:35
ioriaVoyage try with this : kde-workspace-randr15:36
Apachezlooks like google chrome stable 42.x has broken hwaccel with intel hd graphics (5000 in my case) and ubuntu 15.04, anyone else noticed this (workaround is to disable attempt to use hwaccel in the bottom of advanced settings in chrome://settings) ?15:37
ioria!find kscreen15:37
ubottuFound: kscreen, kscreen-dbg, libkscreen-dbg15:37
ioriaVoyage or with this : kscreen15:37
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kate_nith1210, auronandace: No, How to make sure there is no package management running behind the scenes?15:38
nith1210kate_: if you type "jobs" does it come back with something?15:38
auronandacekate_: you could check the output of ps aux15:39
ubuntuserhi. can you help me pls? my xorg.conf got corrupted, and after i did an automatic rebuild of the file, vga connection goes crazy: when i attach vga monitor to my laptop, both displays go black, and when i detach it, many of the labels on the screen have got smaller (like if dpi suddenly decremented). my settings show only one lvds screen, no vga, as well as nvidia x server settings utility. how do i fix it?15:40
jellowkate_: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock and try sudo apt-get update again15:41
kate_Inith1210, auronandace: ran SUDO apt-get update and the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063761/15:41
leonic!translator15:41
leonic!language15:41
ubottuThe main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList15:41
kate_nith1210: command "jobs" did not return anything15:41
jellow!aptlock | kate_15:41
ubottukate_: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »15:42
OerHeksi386 + amd64 sources ... ?15:42
nith1210kate_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit15:42
kate_jellow: doing what you said15:43
auronandacekate_: deleting the lock should only be done as a last resort15:44
myth5jellow,logout15:45
kate_nith1210: sadly sudo apt-get install pastebinit returns error15:45
nith1210kate_: indicating that there's more to fix. What's the new error?15:45
ubuntusersorry to ask, but any advice on my issue?15:45
kate_auronandace: what do u mean?15:45
auronandacekate_: you shouldn't run the command "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" unless you really need to (in the event that some package management definitely crashed)15:47
kate_auronandace: But I ran the command :( Is it really bad?15:47
kate_nith1210: u want the output for pastebinit15:48
kate_?15:48
nith1210kate_: yes please15:48
auronandacekate_: the lock is there to ensure that only one package management process is managing packages at a time, otherwise if you are using multiple ones the database will get corrupted15:48
kate_nith1210: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063841/15:49
sandro_\list15:50
sandro_!list15:50
ubottusandro_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».15:50
nith1210kate_: sudo apt-get -f install15:51
nith1210kate_: (you forgot the sudo last time)15:51
auronandacekate_: sudo apt-get -f install15:51
ubuntuserguys.15:52
ubuntuserare my messages invisible?15:52
ubuntuseror something is unclear in them and i should rewrite it?15:52
auronandaceubuntuser: people can only reply if they know the answer15:52
nith1210ubuntuser: They're not. xorg.conf are fairely difficult. !patience15:52
kate_nith1210, auronandace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063899/15:52
ubuntuserall right15:52
ioriaif he purges sources.list.d ?15:53
auronandacekate_: were you in the middle of an update when all this started happening?15:54
nith1210those are warnings, they'll have no effect.15:54
nith1210It's the unable to lock which is the problem.15:54
nith1210auronandace: I believe it was an upgrade from 12.04 to 14.0415:54
ioriasudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf , then ?15:55
auronandacenith1210: yeah, it looks like a botched upgrade15:55
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nith1210kate_: Would you please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list (it's a file)15:55
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kate_auronandace: no15:56
auronandace!xorg | ubuntuser15:56
ubottuubuntuser: X.Org is an implementation of the X Windows System, and is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart it on an Ubuntu system, type 'sudo service lightdm restart'. To fix screen resolution or other X.Org problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution . See also !xorgconf15:56
kate_nith1210: you are so kind :) this is sources.list content: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063973/15:58
ioriaall is clear , now15:59
nith1210kate_: thanks, I'm a proud Canadian. Your sources.list reverted to 12.04. Try a "sudo do-release-upgrade"16:00
ioriakate_  lsb_release -a, out of curiosity ?16:01
ikoniabad idea16:02
nith1210kate_: hold up, don't do that.16:02
nith1210ikonia: why not?16:02
ikonia because you've ald16:02
ikoniaalready done the damage16:02
nith1210ikonia: won't a do-release-upgrade flip the sources.list to 14.04 and continue with the package installations?16:03
ikoniano16:03
ikoniayou will already be in conflict16:03
reality_I'm not able to connect to tor network, it didn't work in ubuntu 14.04 LTS and now i have installed 15.04 and it still not working. no browser is connecting to 127.0.0.1 on port 9050 or 915016:03
ikonia127.0.0.1 is your own machine16:04
reality_tor browser bundle also not connecting16:04
ikonianot the network16:04
ikoniait won't connect to 127.0.0.1 as there is nothing listening16:04
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reality_ikonia there is tor network16:04
ikoniano there is not16:05
nith1210ikonia: conflict in what sense? She's got a certain set of packages with versions 12.04 doesn't know about which means she's in a bad state now.16:05
ikonia127.0.0.1 is localhost16:05
ikonianith1210: maybe I'm missing part of the story, but it looks like a bodged maual upgrade16:05
reality_ikonia: yes, i think you don't know about tor16:05
ikoniaI do16:05
auronandace!tor | reality_16:05
ubottureality_: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl16:05
ikoniaconnecting to localhost is poitnless if you are not on the network16:06
ikoniaas any listening services like tor will have no where to forward to16:06
nith1210ikonia: tried to upgrade using the gui, chrome repo seems to have stopped apt from installing everyhing it needed to and halted the upgrade.16:06
ikoniaso it will be in conflict16:06
ikoniawith partial upgrade packages16:06
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nith1210right, but after her dpkg-configure -a (which has already been done) she now has a mix of old and new packages. Why plugging the new repos in and apt-get -f install *should* fix current dependencies, then she could continue with a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop16:07
nith1210ikonia: no?16:07
ikoniaI disagree16:08
ikoniabut try it16:08
auronandaceshe's gone16:08
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nith1210So she is, and my professional curiousity burns... but that's offtopic XD16:09
jellowhmm wonder if she will have X if she reboots.16:09
sondaanyone know of handwriting note taking app16:10
nith1210doubt it16:10
ikoniagedit16:10
sondawe can write via wacom tablet?16:10
reality_ikonia: ubottu: auronandace: i have used this guide word by word to install tor (( https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en )). and this guide word by word to install tor browser bundle (( https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en#linux )). but tor browser and not even my firefox connect to tor when i set it's sox proxy to 127.0.0.1 and port to 9050 or 9150,16:10
ikoniareality_: first get your network up16:11
ikoniathen confirm ports are listening on 127.0.0.216:11
ikoniasorry .116:11
ikoniathen deal with problems16:11
ikoniabefore then anything else is posntless16:11
ikoniapointless16:11
reality_ikonia? what are you talking about? my network is up. i'm talking to you from same machine :/16:11
ikoniaok - so your network is up16:12
ikoniaare there any daemons listening/bound to 127.0.0.116:12
Xilverhello16:12
mamedhello guys. how can i change the icon of a spesific directory. well i mean i want to do some changes that whenever i create a directory named foo for example its icon should be changed automatically16:13
reality_ikonia i don't know, how can i know that? i just installed ubuntu 15.04 fresh and installed tor and tor browser bundle on it, nothing else installed yet16:13
ikoniais the tor daemons running16:14
Xilverbye16:14
nith1210!help16:15
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:15
reality_ikonia: tor is supposed to listen on localhost:9050 or 9150 to proxy my internet, but my default firefox does not work on that port and tor browser bundle also don't connect.16:15
ikoniathat isn't what I asked16:15
ikoniaI know how it works16:15
ikoniaare the tor daemons started16:15
reality_ikonia: i don't know how to check if tor deamons are running or not, i'm new to linux16:15
mamedi think i should go to gnome room16:15
ikoniaok - then you don't need tor16:15
DoyleHey. where are the OS installation logs?16:16
Johnny_LinuxD`oh!16:16
ikoniaDoyle: /var/log16:16
reality_ikonia: i need tor :/16:16
Doylesure, /var/log, but which one? it's not syslog16:17
ikoniaits made up of multiple logs16:17
ikoniaeg: the dpkg log for the package installs (for example)16:17
Doyleah, gotcha16:17
DoyleThought there might have been one neet and tidy log file16:17
akronix!patience16:17
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:17
jellowreality_: can't you just use Tor Browser unless you're looking to host a hidden service should not need tor itself16:18
resc_user_5766hello16:18
resc_user_5766Can someone help me out?16:18
reality_Jellow: you mean tor browser bundle also contain tor in it? and i don't need to install tor differently?16:19
mamedhow does ubuntu icon theme system match directories with the corresponding icons?16:19
auronandaceresc_user_5766: we don't know your issue yet16:19
jellowreality_: yes16:19
reality_Jellow: but in tor installation guide for ubuntu, the first step is to install tor and then tor browser bundle16:19
jellowreality_: use this guide https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en#linux16:20
reality_jellow: i will also use tor in other online browsers or chat clients etc16:20
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TFG-TTtor brws contain all,just run it16:21
reality_jellow: the guide you are showing is what i followed, it is the second step in tor installation guide16:21
jellowreality_: so ./start-tor-browser.desktop does not open firefox and connect you tor?16:22
resc_user_5766delete my kernels and now I try to go right through Rescatux but do not let me reinstall my grub or dropping down I go with older versions of kernel16:23
ikoniahow did you delete your old kernels ?16:24
reality_jellow: when i start tor browser, it just goes on connecting forever, and it never connect, i tried to use bridges but it does not connect at all, but normally tor is working on my network (i mean on my internet connection tor is not blocked, it works everywhere else)16:24
ikoniabridges ?16:25
resc_user_5766I have the log where it says what happens when you try to install grub. (copy and paste the result of the log?)16:25
ikoniahow did you delete your old kernels ?16:25
ioriaautoremove ?16:26
resc_user_5766synaptics16:26
ikonialet him answer16:26
ikoniaresc_user_5766: ok- then there is no need to reinstall gru16:26
ikoniagrub16:26
resc_user_5766:(16:27
ZiberIf I run a DHCP server on my home linux box, can I distribute addresses from two different subnets to each host?16:27
ActionParsnipZiber: if the hosts have 2 nice, or you use sub interfaces then yes16:28
ikoniawhy are you reinststalling grub ?16:28
auronandaceresc_user_5766: if for some reason you want to boot an older kernel you can reinstall them from synaptic16:28
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ZiberActionParsnip: Sub interface?16:29
ActionParsnipZiber: yes16:29
ZiberWhat does that mean?16:29
ioriathere is also a meta-package sudo apt-get install linux-generic16:29
dhrosaam I going insane, or is ubuntu only using one of my 12 cores?16:29
jellowreality_: perhaps something is hogging the port then again no idea, is something already listening on the ports?16:29
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ActionParsnipZiber: your physical ethernet port can have multiple IP addresses using software16:30
resc_user_5766but I can not get into any version of onscreen grub16:30
ikoniadhrosa: it will use what it needs16:30
dhrosaI've noticed my system monitor never shows anyhing on more than 1 core, and my emacs redraw is extremely slow, and multi-threaded compilations have been locking up my system16:30
dhrosayet more than 1 core is never in use16:30
ikoniaresc_user_5766: when you boot - what do you see16:30
ActionParsnipdhrosa: what is output of: uname -a16:30
resc_user_5766MBR...16:30
ikoniawhat do you actually see - with your eyes16:31
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dhrosaLinux burrito 3.19.0-16-generic #16-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 30 16:09:58 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux16:31
dhrosait also takes a few seconds for a terminal to open16:31
reality_jellow: i have no idea bro, i yesterday fresh installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS but tor was not working on that so i today fresh installed ubuntu 15.04 just for tor, but tor is not working in it too. the installation is fresh, i selected full disk encryption during installation, if that make any problem to tor?16:31
ikoniawhy did you re-install just for TOR ?16:31
ikoniaif it was working why did you re-install ?16:31
zerowaitstateZiber: are both subnets on the same VLAN? Because that's usually not a good idea16:32
ActionParsnipdhrosa: if you run: cat /proc/cpuinfo      do you see many cores?16:32
Ziberzerowaitstate: No, they're not.16:32
reality_ikonia: i said it was not working thats why i installed latest ubuntu16:32
resc_user_5766and then I appear w7 and options for linux.16:32
resc_user_5766But it says that the file does not exist when I open the option of Ubuntu Linux.16:32
ikoniaresc_user_5766: what ?16:32
ZiberBasically, what I'm going to do, is set my home router to dhcp relay to my server, and I want to distribute addresses in two VLANs.16:32
dhrosaActionParsnip: yep, 12 of them16:32
ikoniawhen you first boot the machine - what do you see16:32
resc_user_5766sorry my english is very poor16:33
dhrosaActionParsnip: in reality 6 with hyperthreading, but whatever16:33
ActionParsnipdhrosa: great :-)16:33
zerowaitstateZiber: yeah, it's possible to serve DHCP in different subnets. One way is to have a subinterface for each VLAN on the DHCP box. Another way is to server DHCP only on one subnet and let the router tunnel broadcast-to-unicast via an ip-helper configuration16:33
dhrosaI just recently installed 15.04, I had been on 14.10 for a while16:33
zerowaitstateZiber: yeah, that's doable16:33
ZiberAnd what if I only want to static DHCP assignments for a few hosts, or maybe just even one (maybe just my laptop).16:34
ActionParsnipdhrosa: if you run htop do you see the cores being used?16:34
zerowaitstateZiber: that has to be done from the DHCP server config. The router just tunnels requests. It doesn't care about individual assignments16:34
dhrosahmm, I do see all of them under slight lode16:35
dhrosaload*16:35
ioriaresc_user_5766 dual boot with win 7 ?16:35
zerowaitstateZiber: you pin the MAC address to the IP address assignment. They're called reservations16:35
ZiberRight, yeah.16:35
reality_maybe if someone can troublshoot my tor please? i need it16:35
jellowreality_: Check your system clock. If it's more than a few hours off, Tor will refuse to build circuits.16:35
dhrosamy much weaker laptop running 15.04 isn't having these problems, i'm confused16:35
ikoniadhrosa: what is the actual problem you think you're having16:36
ikonialets cut to the chase ?16:36
reality_jellow: no it's exactly on current time,16:36
dhrosaikonia: emacs screen redraw is unbearably slow, multi-threaded compile jobs lock up my system when they didn't do that on 14.10, spawning a terminal if emacs is redrawing takes forever16:36
dhrosaikonia: dragging windows is taking forever16:36
ikoniadhrosa: ok - type "top" in a shell, press the number one and take a screen shot of the output and post it for me please16:37
ActionParsnipdhrosa: is this after the upgrade from Utopic to Vivid?16:37
dhrosaI did a clean install, but yes I used to use utopic16:37
reality_jellow: can you tell me how to see if tor deamon is running? and if it's connected to tor or not?16:37
jellowreality_: are there logs in /var/log/tor/ ? Not sure if browser logs there16:37
zerowaitstateZiber: the router has to support being a dhcp relay agent, however16:37
ZiberIt does.16:37
dhrosawtf... it's suddenly better16:37
ikoniashock horror16:37
ActionParsnipreality_: ps -ef | grep -i tor16:37
ZiberI just have to figure out, through ubuntu, how to serve multiple subnets to each client.16:38
Rikasd16:38
admin3hi16:38
zerowaitstateZiber: the clients must have multiple interfaces16:38
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admin3how can i install eclipse j2ee via get-apt?16:38
dhrosalet's see if i can get this to happen again16:38
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ZiberThey won't just take both and put one on a virtual interface?16:38
ikoniadhrosa: please give me the screenshot I asked for16:38
ActionParsnip!find eclipse16:38
ubottuFound: redeclipse, redeclipse-data, redeclipse-dbg, redeclipse-server, redeclipse-server-dbg, eclipse, eclipse-anyedit, eclipse-cdt, eclipse-cdt-autotools, eclipse-cdt-jni (and 52 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=eclipse&searchon=names&suite=vivid&section=all16:38
ActionParsnip!eclipse16:39
admin3how ?16:39
dhrosaikonia: http://imgur.com/6FTDx4316:39
ActionParsnipadmin3: did you search software centre16:39
zerowaitstateZiber: if the interface is vlan tagged, you can run dhcp on each VLAN enabled on that trunk. you cannot have multiple subnets in the same broadcast domain in dhcp16:39
ikoniadhrosa: you didn't press the number 116:39
dhrosaoops16:40
admin3yes but could't find16:40
VorCrytichow?16:40
ActionParsnipadmin3: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81341/install-eclipse-ide-for-java-ee-dev-via-apt-get-is-it-possible16:40
dhrosaikonia: http://i.imgur.com/4Jhpo7s.png16:41
zerowaitstatefor example, if your home router has a vlan trunk port running to a switch that understands vlan tagging, and the clients all have vlan-tagged trunk ports to the switch, you have several "virtual" lans between the router and each client. in that case, you could run dhcp on each one of those "virtual" lans and it would work16:41
ActionParsnipadmin3: https://ccainj.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/install-eclipse-for-j2ee-developers-in-ubuntu/16:41
admin3i tried that but i want to install directly eclipse j2ee16:41
ikoniadhrosa: ok - so your SMP aware, so anything that doesn't spread the load across multiple cores is an application fault, not an OS fault16:41
zerowaitstatehowever, you should not run multiple subnets on the SAME vlan, because the VLAN is how the DHCP server distinguishes betwee subnets16:42
dhrosaikonia: it wasn't isolated to any one program, but the problem suddenly went away a few minutes ago16:42
dhrosatrying to figure out how to repro16:42
ZiberThey're different broadcasts. 10.192.100.0/23 and 172.23.135.96/2716:42
auronandacedhrosa: what is multiload-apple?16:43
dhrosaauronandace: no idea16:43
dhrosaauronandace: oh it's a gnome taskbar system monitor applet16:43
dhrosai think it said "applet" but was cutoff16:43
auronandaceahh16:43
auronandacethought it was some sort of apple software :)16:44
dhrosaso did I, and I was concerned for a second :p16:44
MrElendigauronandace: you most likely have apple software on your machine16:47
dhrosait's terminal. you're going to have to euthanize it16:48
auronandaceMrElendig: they do make a contribution to many projects (like cups) but that is a discussion for another  channel16:48
MrElendigauronandace: contribute/own/16:48
reality_ActionParsnip jellow i have logs but i'm not able to paste them in pastebin or pastie, something wrong with their servers16:49
ActionParsnipreality_: tried the pastebinit script?16:50
auronandacereality_: you saying your log is too large to paste?16:50
reality_auronandace no it's not too large, but pastebin gives error: The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.      The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.16:51
reality_ActionParsnip what was the purpose of that command you gave me? ps -ef | grep -i tor16:52
auronandacereality_: to see it in your process list16:52
ActionParsnipreality_: shows if there are any commands with the letters "tor" in..16:52
reality_auronandace: ActionParsnip: there comes many lines with tor in them, tor is in red color16:53
reality_i can't use pastebin or pastie, let me see if i can paste it somewhere else16:54
jellowhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/ works for me.16:54
ActionParsnipreality_: yes, that's the idea :-)16:57
reality_ActionParsnip it is strange i can go to all text pasting sites and can paste my text there, but can't publish them, all of them gives errors when i post my text :/17:00
ActionParsnipreality_: not sure. Try a few services17:01
harishkrupoi am interested to know how  update-grub detects the name of the distribution17:02
harishkrupo i am interested to know how  update-grub2 detects the name of the distribution17:07
reality_ActionParsnip how to private chat you? i will show you my log in private chat, i can't paste it on any text sharing sites :(17:07
ActionParsnipreality_: I don't need the log. If you see processes running then it's ok17:07
reality_ActionParsnip so why i can't use tor? no browser connect to tor?17:08
reality_ActionParsnip how can i see if my tor is connected to tor network?17:08
ActionParsnipreality_: no idea. I don't use tor.17:08
ActionParsnipreality_: I think it's a waste of time17:08
reality_ActionParsnip: no i use it, it's very important to me17:09
ActionParsnipreality_: why?17:09
harishkrupodoes anybody know how update-grub2 detects the name of the distribution?17:10
k1l_harishkrupo: look at the grub scripts.17:10
reality_ActionParsnip: so many reasons, security, privacy, and i use public cable net connection which is a lan, and many sites including youtube are blocked in my country i need to open them, and many others17:11
harishkrupo@k1l_ where are they located?17:11
rik_ferreirahello, how can i improve the boot time in ubuntu gnome?17:11
k1l_harishkrupo: /etc/grub.d/17:11
ActionParsnipreality_: but you are swapping one unknown network (the Internet) for another (tor) how does this improve security?17:11
kokutSo, i have a defective mouse, it clicks twice almost instantly (with a delay of less than 0.2 seconds, is there a possibility to only allow mouse clicks with 0.3 second difference or something?17:11
k1l_rik_ferreira: buy a ssd17:11
rik_ferreirahahah17:12
rik_ferreiraim serious17:12
k1l_rik_ferreira: its hard to tell if you dont provide informations on what is "blocking" etc17:12
rik_ferreirai need general information17:12
rik_ferreirasorry my bad english17:12
rik_ferreiraim br17:12
ActionParsniprik_ferreira: uninstall unnecessary services.17:13
OerHeksrik_ferreira, use bootchart to find out what takes so long17:13
OerHeks!bootchart17:13
ubottubootchart charts your machine at boot time, to install >> sudo apt-get install bootchart << the graphic is in /var/log/bootchart after the next reboot17:13
ActionParsniprik_ferreira: how long does the system take to boot?17:13
iLoveLobsterAnyone know there way around mdadm?17:13
rik_ferreiraabout 30 seconds17:13
OerHeksand remove it after use17:13
iLoveLobsterNeed some help rebuilding an array from an older system17:13
ActionParsniprik_ferreira: and how many times do you boot in a week?17:14
OerHeks30 sec + wireless is not that long17:14
autopoiesishow can i connect to this irc from pidgin?17:14
reality_ActionParsnip: i can use internet anonymously and access the sites and information which government does not want us to see17:14
reality_ActionParsnip: you might not understand that if you live in a free countary :/17:14
almarkput your stuff on a fine ssd rik_ferreira17:14
ActionParsnipreality_: how do you know what happens inside the tor network?17:14
almarkyou'll be impressed how fast your system will boot17:14
rik_ferreirayes, its not that long, but i'll try the bootchart17:15
rik_ferreirathank you guys17:15
ActionParsnipreality_: I understand accessing sites not accessible before  but it certainly isn't any more secure17:15
autopoiesishow can i connect to this irc from pidgin?17:15
ActionParsnipautopoiesis: add an account using the inconvenience protocol. Set the server to irc.freenode.net17:15
someonemadhttps://www.archlinux.org/news/filesystem-upgrade-manual-intervention-required-1/ what is the ubuntu equivalent to this??? i'm trying to fix this systemd thing that won't let me boot!!!17:16
reality_ActionParsnip: lets not have a debate if tor is any different then a normal network in security, but i find it better to stay anonymous online. and i can protect my stuff by encryption when it leaves my pc,17:16
reality_ActionParsnip: im here to take any help to get my tor running17:16
ActionParsnipreality_: that's why we have https17:16
vanishing:q17:17
ActionParsnip!tor17:17
ubottuTor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl17:17
someonemad"error getting authority error initializing authority could not connect no such file or directory"17:17
reality_ActionParsnip: what good is an https if the site tracks you and gives your identity to your government?17:17
iLoveLobstercan anyone point me in the right direction on help with mdadm?17:17
someonemad"Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)"17:17
ActionParsnipreality_: do you seriously think tor is a complete cover?17:18
kokutHello, i have a defective mouse, it clicks twice almost instantly (with a delay of less than 0.2 seconds, is there a possibility to only allow mouse clicks with 0.3 second difference or something?17:19
ActionParsnipiLoveLobster: I'd just make a new array then reinstate the data from your backups17:19
reality_ActionParsnip: yes i think so, or atleast it makes it difficult,17:19
someonemad"Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)" this is a policykit issue according to the systemd developer, i really need help trying to get my pc to boot!!!!17:20
ActionParsnipreality_: so why don't all Web paedophiles use it and never get caught?17:20
autopoiesisActionParsnip: i get this buddie list thing, is my first time using pidgin, i used IRC protocol and put irc.freenode.net as server... but get nothing?17:20
ActionParsnipreality_: it's not a complete cover at all. You are deluded17:20
ioriasomeonemad, are prompted to a command ?17:20
reality_ActionParsnip: on what bases do you make that claim?17:21
_guest_whats a good video making program?17:21
someonemadioria: not at all, it only gives it to me when it says "Welcome to emergency mode!"17:21
someonemadafter 5 minutes..17:21
OerHeksautopoiesis, did you see our wiki ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin#Configuring_Pidgin_for_Ubuntu_IRC17:21
vitimitireality_, even the tor page warns you that it's not a complete cover17:21
vitimitireality_, and it also depends on the people using tor near you17:22
zerowaitstatereality_: tor really only defeats traffic analysis. a government agency can run a honeypot over tor as easily as over a regular network. that's why political activists are harder to catch than pedophiles17:22
ActionParsnipreality_: because the Web is monitored for stuff like that and authorities are sent in to apprehend. How do you think they find Dave Wrong with thousands of inappropriate images?17:22
ioriasomeonemad, but do you have a prompt ?17:22
ActionParsnipreality_: again deluded17:22
someonemadi'm getting into one hopefully17:23
reality_vitimiti: yes thats true, thats what i said, atleast it makes it difficult to identify you, until you are doing a serious crime, nobody is going to give a damn to search and trace your identity from tor17:23
autopoiesis1thank you OerHeks!17:23
ioriasomeonemad, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager17:23
HotSwapiLoveLobster, if all disks are available, an mdadm --assemble --scan --verbose should do it and tell you whats happening.  though if you dont have backups, id read up on man mdadm and be careful :)17:23
someonemadugh, okay so in recovery mode it's giving me that same freaking error g-io-error-quark, 117:24
someonemadioria: i have to wait 5 freaking minutes now17:24
someonemadJUST to get to a prompt17:24
autopoiesis1my nickname changed tho17:25
reality_ActionParsnip: then what do you suggest to people? to just give up on securing themselves and not struggle ?17:25
ActionParsnipreality_: realise that you are always watched. It helps the Web17:25
k1l_autopoiesis1: you can only have a nickname once and not from 2 different clients at the same time17:26
autopoiesis1i'm gonna try reconnect17:26
reality_ActionParsnip: if everyone starts using tor will it not help protecting our identity?17:26
autopoiesis1tiat17:26
autopoiesis1kek17:26
k1l_autopoiesis1: "/nick newnick"17:26
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autopoiesisthank you :)17:27
k1l_!irc | autopoiesis17:27
ubottuautopoiesis: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines17:27
someonemadi think i understand why most people hate systemd now17:27
ActionParsnipreality_: a little but  not as far as you seem to think.17:27
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someonemadioria: are you still here?17:28
ioriayup17:28
someonemadokay good, still loading to a prompt still17:29
reality_ActionParsnip: zerowaitstate: vitimiti: anyways, thanks for having this chat, i must find a way to get tor running. see you next time, i will go and install other linux where tor is running.17:29
ActionParsnipreality_: as you wish. Ubottu gave a guide to install it.17:30
HotSwapreality_, didn't you get enough help for installing tor here?17:30
HotSwapaction isnt being any help, but the bot's pasta was useful17:31
someonemadblah, screw recovery mode, just gonna hard reset and brb in 10 minutes17:31
ActionParsnipHotSwap: little tip, I triggered Ubottu. She only responds to triggers17:32
ActionParsnipHots17:32
ActionParsnipHotSwap: so, by proxy,  I was helpful17:32
fiZLikhello17:33
HotSwapActionParsnip, protip: stop being condescending and giving tips and unwanted advice17:33
fiZLiki need some help about permissions17:34
HotSwapi know how bots work, and reality specifically asked not to debate the usefulness of tor17:34
fiZLikhow to add write,read and delete permission to some folder?17:34
ActionParsnipHotSwap: the guy wanted to install tor. I gave the official document for Ubuntu on how to install it. How is that "unwanted advice"?17:35
fiZLiki tried with sudo chmod 777 /patch/to/folder17:35
ioriachmod   u, g, a +(or -) r, w, x17:35
fiZLikand patch at the end17:35
zykotick9fiZLik: note, you can't use POSIX permissions on FAT or NTFS volumes...17:36
someonemadioria: okay got a prompt17:36
ActionParsnipzykotick9: was about to ask that17:36
ActionParsnipfiZLik: is the folder on an NTFS partition?17:36
ioriasomeonemad, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager17:36
zykotick9ActionParsnip: ;)17:36
someonemadit says "Welcome to emergency mode! After logging in, type "sournalctl -xb" to view system logs.."17:36
someonemadokay17:36
someonemadit says /usr/sbin/lightdm17:37
someonemadioria: ^^^17:37
someonemadthat's for unity on ubuntu17:37
fiZLikActionParsnip: sorry i dont know17:37
ioriasomeonemad, try sudo systemctl enable lightdm.service  -f17:38
ActionParsnipfiZLik: what is the folder you are manipulating?17:38
fiZLiksome lampp folder17:38
wok12hello everyone, time display has disappeared from my upper bar, and the clock tab in system settings is grayed. what could be happening? how can I correct it?17:38
someonemadit gives me a bunch of error initializing authority's17:38
fiZLiki cant delete topics on the forum17:38
someonemadNo such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)17:39
OerHeksfiZLik, only admins can do that.17:39
ActionParsnipfiZLik: that will reduce security drastically17:39
autopoiesiswok12 that's a common ubuntu bug17:39
fiZLikyeah im admin of forum17:39
autopoiesisgoogle's third search result is the answer17:39
thenewoneHi guys17:39
OerHeksfiZLik, ubuntuforums?17:39
thenewonesup17:39
fiZLikno17:39
wok12with which search word?17:40
someonemadioria: please don't tell me i have to reinstall..17:40
fiZLikmy personal forum17:40
OerHeksfiZLik, oh, then it is not an ubuntu issue. see your forum software manual for a howto17:40
autopoiesiswok12: on terminal:17:40
autopoiesiskillall unity-panel-service17:40
fiZLikyes17:40
fiZLiki need to add permission for the folder where is my forum installed17:41
fiZLikfor deleting17:41
autopoiesiswok12 i literally just searched time disappear ubuntu and the second result on google was this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/371374/where-did-the-menu-bar-clock-go/371387#37138717:41
ioriasomeonemad, do you have a windows partition ?17:41
someonemadnope, but i do have a separate /home partition17:41
fiZLiki have lampp server installed on ubuntu17:41
someonemadwith btrfs17:41
someonemadon a separate hard drive17:42
ActionParsnipautopoiesis: Google search results change user to user due to the bubble17:42
wok12autopoiesis, sorry for asking without knowing, but sounds like killing all panel activity, no?17:42
ioriasomeonemad, did you put it in fstab ?17:42
someonemadioria: that was the only way i could get it on my separate hard drive, so yes17:42
autopoiesisit is, even though it works as a reset17:42
wok12would that not kill other needed processes?17:42
autopoiesisbut it would reset them all17:43
ioriasomeonemad, maybe is your fstab ruined.you can boot from live mount rw and comment the line17:43
ActionParsnipautopoiesis: http://dontbubble.us/ explains the Google bubble well17:43
someonemadhmm.. alright17:43
autopoiesishave no fear man, it wouldn't be the most upovoted answer on askubuntu if it wasn't the right one17:43
wok12ok :)17:43
autopoiesisthat was a beautiful link ActionParsnip, thank you, i actually use duckduckgo as my default search engine, but most people aren't sofa kings like me haha17:44
wok12oh, yes, it is back right away, autopoiesis. thank you very much!17:44
autopoiesisi helped, yei!17:45
fiZLiksomeone know how to add read,write and delete permission or is it right permission "sudo chmod 777 /patch/to/folder/"17:45
jParktonit is binary math17:46
jParkton755 is usually good17:46
jParkton644 for hosting17:46
fiZLiki tried that17:46
jParktonwhat is the issue?17:46
fiZLiklampp server and forum installed on it17:47
someonemadioria: what do i do when i boot into the live environment/17:47
OerHeksfiZLik, what forum software?17:47
fiZLikmyupb17:47
fiZLikforum..myupb.com17:48
jParktonfiZLik: that is way too complex, some folders will need 644, some 655, some 75517:48
autopoiesisif i click conversation->join a chat->join will i log off of this chat?17:48
jParktonisnt there some install docs?17:48
fiZLikok17:48
fiZLiki will try all of that17:48
fiZLikthx17:48
ioriasomeonemad, first find your partition (sudo fdisk -l) then mount --options remount,rw / , mount partition , modfy fstab, unmount and reboot17:48
jParktonautopoiesis: no clue, unknown client, unknown all that try it and see17:49
fiZLiki tried with 777 and 75517:49
jParktondont use 77717:49
fiZLikwhy?17:49
OerHeks777 might have broken the forumsoftware17:49
saegeoffhey has anyone noticed ppa.launchpad.net is returning a 404?17:49
autopoiesisjParkton, i' actually sorry i asked such a stupid question instead of just trying17:49
autopoiesisit didn't, btw17:49
fiZLiki install forum with 77717:50
bekksfiZLik: Thats the most insecure install possible then.17:50
k1l_saegeoff: please put a "sudo apt update" into a pastebin17:50
fiZLikok17:50
fiZLikthx for info17:50
skiesnew here.....any information on how to play around the command line will be appreciated\17:50
nkooo83yo17:50
jParktonautopoiesis: nice :)17:50
jParktonskies: open/type17:51
aramilcan someone help me please im trying to update my lubuntu install from 14.04 to 15.04 and it gets stuck at Removing conflicting operating system files17:51
jParktonaramil: can you paste the exact error on a pastepad somewhere?17:51
zykotick9aramil: fyi, you'd need to go 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04...17:52
saegeoffk1l_: http://pastebin.com/9qKDuWWR17:52
aramilits the version my dad burned for me because my grub broke so my pc cant boot at all17:52
k1l_saegeoff: that is not the end, right?17:53
saegeoffi piped to a file17:53
saegeofflet me see17:53
bekksaramil: you need to update to 14.10 before you can update to 15.0417:53
jParktonohhh17:53
jParktondid you edit your sources?17:53
saegeoffk1l_: there was a W: Failed to fetch ... and then 404.. nothing else17:54
k1l_saegeoff: but as you can see, its not ppa.launchpad.net but its the ppas you use that error. because the ppa is not available anymore or doesnt have trusty packages at all.17:54
k1l_saegeoff: so check your ppas17:54
aramili just want to fix my grub and i thought upgrading will do it because boot-repair did not work17:54
saegeoffl1l_: oh, I didn't realize.  Thanks for that info17:55
autopoiesisaramil: it probably will17:55
autopoiesisaramil: but you need to go 14.10 first, then 15.0417:55
saegeoffk1l_: thanks.. that makes sense.  Do you have any good sources I could read more about apt?  I am not new to linux but I only know enough about apt to get by17:55
autopoiesisoh, someone already said that17:55
aramilis there anyway to fix it with out upgrading?17:55
thenewoneuse pacman it's faster than apt17:56
saegeoffisn't pacman for arch?17:56
jParktonaramil: no idea what is really going on without actual errors17:56
jParktonyes it is17:56
k1l_thenewone: stop that nonsense17:56
jParktonfor real17:56
thenewonelol17:56
k1l_!apt | saegeoff17:57
ubottusaegeoff: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)17:57
saegeoffI've used arch.. I thought it was a great learning experience and I ran it for about 6 months, but I gave it up because my goal is to program on linux and not debug an OS17:57
jParktonMuon is horrible17:57
saegeoffUbuntu isn't perfect but it is much more stable than Arch IMO and Ubuntu gets great support since it is popular.  That is why I use Ubuntu.17:57
aramili will load up the installer again to check for errors17:57
jParktonok17:57
aramilwindows 10 is evil because my boot loader broke after i removed it17:58
autopoiesisarch is for learning and spending a lot of time doing a lot of simple things in just easy 45 steps17:58
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jParktonYeah stop installing Linux kindasorta17:59
jParktoninstall and remove winblows17:59
ejuanaramil, i unplug my ubuntu hard drive when i install windows then plug it back in after and use the bios to select whatever os i want to boot.17:59
aramilhow do i share a screen shot on here?17:59
saegeoff@auto, I agree.   Arch is great for learning how it all works but it is a huge distraction.  The guys I know disagree with me, never update their packages once it is stable for them. So I really can't use their "stability" as a proof that it works great17:59
SchrodingersScat!screenshot | aramil18:00
ubottuaramil: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here.18:00
jParktonaramil: are you on the computer with the issue?18:00
autopoiesisthere's a lot of arch elitism on r/unixporn haha they're super funny about it tho18:00
aramilhttp://imgur.com/4kLU7IM18:00
k1l_guys, lets stick to actual ubuntu support in here. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for the other chat18:01
ioriaejuan: you have uefi ?18:01
ejuanioria, yeah18:01
ioriaejuan: and you didn't run update-grub ?18:01
ioriaejuan: after reinserting the ubuntu disk, i mean18:02
arcskyif i set IP address on my eth0 interface with ifconfig. why does it lost its address after some time?18:02
ejuanaccually I think my ubuntu install is not efi, its just legacy bios, now that I think about it.18:02
jParktonarcsky: dhcpclient?18:03
ejuanbut I can do a update-grub no problem after a kernel update.18:03
aramilso i might of broke ubuntu if you look at the pic i sent it says its unknown18:03
ioriaejuan: ok, that's interesting :-)18:03
FloobynoobyHi! Work laptop, no admin privs; trying to make a bootable USB thumb drive. Have ubuntu .iso. Have thumbdrive. No have admin privs. Any hope?18:04
ActionParsnipsaegeoff: I wouldn't say it teaches you that much. Gentoo is a whole different kettle of fish18:04
jParktonaramil: that may be due to Lubuntu rather than Ubuntu18:04
arcskyjParkton: ps aux |grep dhcpclient doesnt running18:04
jParktonarcsky: that might be the issue18:04
bodhi_zazenejuan, when you upgrade the kernel with apt-get it should run update-grub automagically18:04
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ActionParsnipFloobynooby: is unetbootin installed?18:04
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ActionParsnipFloobynooby: or USB disk creator?18:05
jParktonaramil: why not just install18:05
jParktonor is there some really important stuff18:05
FloobynoobyAction: Nope! Can't install without Admin privs. Portable version can't run without admin privs, either.18:05
aramilwell i have my steam games, game saves and a bunch of other stuff18:06
FloobynoobyNor USB Disk Creator18:06
FloobynoobyIt's a generic work windows laptop.18:06
ActionParsnipFloobynooby: have you checked in Dash? Ubuntu comes with a disk creator application by default18:06
ActionParsnipFloobynooby: oh windows18:07
Floobynoobyyeah: Oh, Windows!18:07
harishkrupoActionParsnip, even disk creator requires root or admin priv18:07
FloobynoobyWindows can burn an .iso to DVD, but of course that's not bootable.18:07
ActionParsnipFloobynooby: doesn't the PenDriveLinux application work in Windows?18:07
Zai-Cesuohello ubuntu channel! where do i need to go if i need someone to help me out with a little problem?18:07
Floobynoobyharishkrupo: yes, every trick I've tried requires admin privs.18:08
aramilfloobynooby: how about trying wubi?18:08
ActionParsnipFloobynooby: burning to DVD will make a bootable DVD18:08
bekksZai-Cesuo: You already are there :) Just ask your question.18:08
ActionParsniparamil: Wubi is dead18:08
harishkrupoFloobynooby, yes the stage where you will need to install syslinux requires root18:08
ActionParsniparamil: Wubi hasn't been developed for THREE years now...18:08
FloobynoobyActionParsnip: Ah! Well that's what I'll try then.18:08
Zai-Cesuothank you! I have just made the major decision to stop with the virtual ubuntu box and properly"18:09
harishkrupoFloobynooby burning to dvd should work18:09
Zai-Cesuoinstall it. unfortunately it doesnt show up my "windows 7" in the boot up anymore18:09
aramilyes but wubi will allow him to boot into ubuntu make a liveusb there18:09
bazhang!wubi | aramil18:09
ubottuaramil: Wubi was a way to install Ubuntu from within Windows, but it is no longer supported in recent versions of Ubuntu and was never well maintained even for Ubuntu 12.04. Do not use Wubi. See !install for other options for installing Ubuntu.18:09
k1l_you dont need to install wubi to make a live usb then.18:10
bazhangsee the message above aramil Do NOt Use Wubi18:10
FloobynoobyHarishkrupo, ActionParsnip: Thanks, will try burning to dvd, then boot into linux, then make a proper usb from there. (Pendrive points to UUi, which requires admin privs.) Thank you both!!!18:11
Zai-Cesuothe day before yesterday i plugged in a new SSD alongside my HDD. My HDD already had a windows 7 home version. And my SSD got a new Windows ultimate version (everything 64 bit). Now installed ubuntu onto the SSD. In the startup it shows me ubuntu and Windows 7. Unfortunately only the HDD one. Can i do anything about it?18:11
Caleb--hi18:11
Caleb--has anyone experienced random reboots with ubuntu 15.04?18:11
bekksCaleb--: How does a poll solve your actual problem?18:12
ActionParsnipFloobynooby: if you have burned the DVD right you will see many files. If you see only one then you have not burned the file correctly. Also if you extracted the file like so many Windows users do, this is also incorrect18:12
harishkrupoFloobynooby, why need pendrive when you have a live system?18:12
Caleb--i don't know if this is ubuntu 15.04 or the samsung 840 evo firmware upgrade that's causing them as i upgraded both pretty much at the same time18:12
k1l_Caleb--: see the logs for what is going on. there is not a "general reboot issue" with 15.0418:12
ActionParsnipCaleb--: have you tested your RAM health using Memtest86 from Grub?18:12
Caleb--yes18:12
Caleb--RAM is ok18:12
Caleb--i already had a corrupted filesystem because of a reboot, so i formatted again18:12
bekksCaleb--: Why didnt you repair the FS instead?18:13
Caleb--bekks,  i did, but lots of files seemed to be corrupted18:13
aramilso is there anyway for me to fix my boot loader without installing 15.04 because im on a livecd right now18:13
kdzarhi i have a question with upgrading to 14.0418:14
ActionParsniparamil: OmgUbuntu has a guide called "sticking it to Grub"18:14
jParktonkdzar: what is the issue?18:14
kdzarjParkton its not recommended i do it via ssh, what do i do it with?18:15
jParktonis it your server?18:15
k1l_kdzar: what machine is it?18:15
kdzarits a vps18:15
aramilno it looks like my lubuntu install broke because when i run the installer it says unknown linux distro18:15
jParktondont worry about that, just ssh in and upgrade18:15
kdzarjParkton u sure :o nervous18:15
jParktonkdzar: yeah it usually is fine18:16
kdzarwhat do u think k1l_ ?18:16
k1l_kdzar: if all goes wrong it could leave the system in a state where you need to reset/reinstall it from the recovery. but since you dont have physikcal access to most servers you need to upgrade them over ssh18:16
jParktonI think once maybe 5 years ago one went bad on me but that was the only time I ever saw18:16
k1l_kdzar: have a backup18:16
jParkton^18:16
kdzark1l_ i dont even know how to make a backup18:17
jParktonif it is digital ocean there is a backup on their side18:17
k1l_!backup | kdzar18:17
ubottukdzar: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning18:17
kdzarbesides diskspace issue18:17
jParktonkdzar: just upgrade lol18:17
k1l_kdzar: and see if your hoster got some backup solutions for your setup already18:17
autopoiesissdd backup, because best backup.18:17
jParktonit will be fine18:17
kdzarok18:17
kdzari wont do it know18:17
Floobynoobyharishkrupo: On windows, have no admin privs. Would like to boot laptop into Ubuntu and leave the machine untouched;  work in Ubuntu with persistence. Problem: on the road with only the windows laptop. How to boot this machine into Ubuntu without changing anything but one of the two thumbdrives I have? Once in Ubuntu, I can follow howtos and create a persisitent installation with storage on thumbdrive, and just boot into that wh18:17
Caleb--k1l_, i looked in journalctl, but i don't see anything helpful. just logs about my cron jobs and then suddenly a "-- Reboot --"18:17
kdzarhave to reseash this do release upgrade over ssh18:17
jParktonthat is a digital ocean script18:18
k1l_Caleb--: see syslog and the old syslog.0 or syslog.1 in /var/log18:18
jParktonyou can just sudo su and apt-get dist-upgrade -y18:18
kdzarwhy not do release?18:18
k1l_dont do sudo su on ubuntu18:19
jParktonit is just a script digitalocean puts on their droplets18:19
nith1210Floobynooby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence18:19
jParktonit is the exact same thing as dist-upgrade -y18:19
jParktonk1l_: really? Why not?18:19
kdzardo-release-upgrade18:19
Floobynoobyharishkrupo: so it looks like the solution is, burn .iso to DVD with windows' built-in command. That should take no admin privs. Then boot from DVD and I'm in Ubuntu and in the clear.18:19
k1l_jParkton: env variables.18:19
jParktonweird18:19
kdzarsurely making usb bootable is easier18:19
k1l_sudo -i for that18:20
* jParkton is on Kubuntu18:20
jParktonso different a little18:20
aramilcant i install ubuntu on a different partition  then more my home folder to it then remove my reinstall my old ubuntu then more the stuff back?18:20
jParktonaramil: not really18:20
Zai-Cesuohm so nobody here who could help me with the grub problem?18:20
Floobynoobynith1210: will check that out, thank you. Once I get into Ubuntu I will have more options. Right now, in windows and can't change this machine;18:20
kdzari think i should run it from console18:21
kdzarwhat is the ubuntu equivialent of "F8"18:21
k1l_kdzar: f8?18:22
Floobynoobykdzar: easier, but you need Windows admin privs it turns out. yumi, uui, a few other tools--either won't install without admin privs or, can install a portable version that asks for elevation when it runs (as it attempts to change boot sectors I bet. makes sense.)18:22
aramilso its looking like i will have to do a complete reinstall and lose everything :(18:22
kdzaryeah like safe mode for windows k1l_18:22
EriC^^aramil: what is your problem?18:22
k1l_kdzar: that is called recovery.18:22
kdzaroh ok18:22
k1l_kdzar: but that doesnt help you on "how to upgrade a server install"18:23
kdzarso ssh is safe?18:23
jParktonYESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS18:23
kdzardo-release-upgrade over ssh ?18:23
jParktongood lord18:23
aramileric: http://imgur.com/4kLU7IM18:23
jParktonjust do it ffs18:23
OerHeksaramil, so lubuntu does not know what windows, as windows 10 is not released18:24
kdzarok another thing i wanted to know was i had server and added the gui, how do i remove the gui18:24
EriC^^aramil: you're installing lubuntu next to what?18:24
k1l_kdzar: the warning for "ssh upgrade could be unsafe" is always given until you drive to the physiical server and attach a keybord and monitor. so not matter where you connect through ssh, there is always the issue that ssh could cut off.18:24
aramileric: that unknown os is my lubuntu 14.04 install18:24
phunyguyjParkton: would you mind not using the nsfw acronyms, please?18:24
kdzark1l_ if cut off, how do i fix18:24
EriC^^aramil: so you want to reinstall lubuntu?18:24
k1l_kdzar: and if there is important data or important services you really want to have a backup18:24
aramileric: no because i have alot of stuff i dont want to lose18:25
EriC^^aramil: what's the main problem?18:25
bazhang!home | aramil18:26
ubottuaramil: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving18:26
kdzarthanks k1l_ and jParkton18:26
aramileric: my pc would not boot and then when i try to fix it from the livecd by upgrading it it got stuck at the installer and then when i quit it then try it again it shows whats in that pic18:27
Caleb--k1l_, bekks, it's a false alarm. i just looked at the uptime of my firewall box and it went down as well... probably a power outage18:27
harishkrupoaramil, could you send that pic again?18:28
aramilhttp://imgur.com/4kLU7IM18:28
ioriaaramil before losing grub, what have you done ?18:30
harishkrupoaramil, do u know where it got stuck while upgrading? did you see the output?18:30
aramilno i did not18:31
EriC^^aramil: which ubuntu did you have?18:31
aramillubuntu 14.0418:31
EriC^^and which did you try to upgrade too?18:31
harishkrupoaramil, can you mount the partition and see the files?18:31
aramilyup18:32
EriC^^aramil: you tried upgrading to 14.10 using the live cd?18:32
aramilno because when i asked my dad to burn me a cd he burned a 15.04 one18:33
EriC^^ok, and what did you press in the installer?18:33
EriC^^you can't upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 directly18:33
harishkrupoaramil, cant you backup the data and do a fresh install18:34
aramilcant i use chroot or something to it and repair it manually?18:34
harishkrupoaramil, yes but we need to know what the problem is first18:35
capradmarAfter installing Ubuntu on my laptop, I have the grub minimal bash-like18:35
capradmarI can't boot to my systems (elementaryos and ubuntu)18:35
EriC^^ok18:36
aramili do have a 250gb partition with win7 cant i backup my stuff to it by removing win7?18:36
xpandaramil: channel is ubuntu?!18:36
EriC^^aramil: & capradmar boot a live usb18:36
harishkrupoaramil, yes you can18:36
capradmarEriC^^: when trying to boot from usb,  I still have this grub minimal bash like18:37
EriC^^capradmar: the live usb too?18:37
EriC^^are you sure it's booting?18:37
aramileric: im running a livecd right now18:37
EriC^^hold shift to get grub18:37
capradmarit did before installation18:37
EriC^^aramil: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste here18:38
EriC^^capradmar: maybe it's not booting anymore18:38
aramilhttp://termbin.com/ra9m18:38
capradmarEriC^^: I pressed shift without success18:38
capradmarI will try to remake my live usb18:38
EriC^^capradmar: ok18:38
EriC^^aramil: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt18:39
aramildone18:40
EriC^^ok type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi18:40
EriC^^does the dir exist?18:40
aramildrwxr-xr-x 5 root root 0 May 10 08:49 /sys/firmware/efi18:40
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EriC^^ok, it's kind of odd you don't have an efi partition, unless it's that 25gb fat3218:40
EriC^^aramil: do you know what sda1 is?18:41
aramili think /dev/sda1 is supposed to be efi18:41
EriC^^aramil: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi18:42
aramildone18:42
EriC^^type ls -l /mnt/boot/efi18:42
EriC^^is there an EFI dir?18:42
aramiltotal 1618:43
aramildrwx------ 2 root root 16384 May  9 07:58 lost+found18:43
EriC^^what else is in there?18:43
aramilthats it18:43
EriC^^type ls -la /mnt/boot/efi18:43
aramiltotal 2418:43
aramildrwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 May  9 07:58 .18:43
aramildrwxr-xr-x 6 root root  4096 May  6 21:08 ..18:43
aramildrwx------ 2 root root 16384 May  9 07:58 lost+found18:43
EriC^^ok, try ls -la /mnt/boot/efi/lost+found18:44
aramills: cannot open directory /mnt/boot/efi/lost+found: Permission denied18:44
EriC^^try with sudo18:45
aramiltotal 2018:45
aramildrwx------ 2 root root 16384 May  9 07:58 .18:45
aramildrwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 May  9 07:58 ..18:45
EriC^^ok, is /boot all there? type ls -l /mnt/boot18:46
EriC^^is there a grub dir and initrd and stuff?18:46
aramilyup18:46
EriC^^ok, i think we should first make sda1 an efi partition first, and then reinstall grub18:46
ozzy1013Hello ¿Some one?18:47
aramilok18:47
EriC^^unless anyone has any suggestions..18:47
EriC^^aramil: type cat /mnt/etc/issue18:47
aramilcat: /mnt/etc/issue: No such file or directory18:48
EriC^^aramil: ok, that's not good18:49
EriC^^aramil: type sudo umount /dev/sda118:49
aramildone18:49
EriC^^type sudo efibootmgr -v18:49
aramilsudo: efibootmgr: command not found18:49
EriC^^sudo apt-get install efibootmgr18:50
aramilwhat do i do after sudo efibootmgr -v18:51
EriC^^type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999918:51
aramilhttp://termbin.com/fji618:52
EriC^^aramil: type cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 999918:53
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EriC^^i'm trying to see how you used to boot lubuntu18:53
aramilhttp://termbin.com/52t918:53
Zai-Cesuohey guys. one last try here.. anyone who can help me with  grub and UEFI-windows problems?18:55
EriC^^aramil: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 999918:55
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, yes18:56
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aramilhttp://termbin.com/teu018:56
EriC^^aramil: it looks like the efi partition is gone18:56
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, what is the problem18:57
Zai-Cesuoharishkrupo: thanks! well I have some struggles. I have a windows home edition on my HDD.. now i got an SSD and installed windows 7 ultimate (64bit) on it. On the same SSD is now ubuntu. Grub only shows the HDD windows though18:57
aramili have no clue how that happened18:57
EriC^^aramil: i'm afraid the root fs is also different18:57
EriC^^aramil: type ls -l /home18:57
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, try running update-grub218:57
EriC^^aramil: sorry, ls -l /mnt/home18:57
EriC^^is your user still there?18:58
aramilyes18:58
EriC^^ok, cool18:58
EriC^^aramil: type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done18:59
hadifarnoudwhy $> sed -i 's/<\/body>/\&/' *.html gives me "command i expects \ followed by text"18:59
al2o3-cr!find weechat18:59
ubottuFound: weechat, weechat-core, weechat-curses, weechat-dbg, weechat-dev18:59
Zai-Cesuohttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11066532/ thats what i get.. i tried sudo update-grub before.. and it didnt work18:59
Zai-Cesuois grub 2 any different?18:59
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: what's the problem?19:00
Zai-Cesuoharishkrupo: thanks! well I have some struggles. I have a windows home edition on my HDD.. now i got an SSD and installed windows 7 ultimate (64bit) on it. On the same SSD is now ubuntu. Grub only shows the HDD windows though19:00
aramilum that command is confusing idk what to put in19:00
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, update-grub will actually call update-grub219:00
EriC^^aramil: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done19:00
Zai-Cesuohm so that is not the solution then..19:00
EriC^^aramil: paste the whole thing19:00
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, is windows installed on efi on the ssd?19:01
Zai-Cesuoyes19:01
aramilmount: mount point /mnt/dev does not exist mount: mount point /mnt/dev/pts does not exist mount: mount point /mnt/proc does not exist mount: mount point /mnt/sys does not exist19:01
Zai-Cesuoi need to boot it in UEFI.. if thats what you mean.. i dont know what that means though19:01
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, ok then try boot repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair19:01
EriC^^aramil: type ls -l /mnt | nc termbin.com 999919:02
EriC^^aramil: i think you have to backup your home and reinstall, it's pretty messed up19:02
aramilhttp://termbin.com/kh3w19:02
Bray90820So I can't seem to get my samba share working on 15.04 it worked fine for like a day but now no computers can connect to it19:03
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, in bios settings you generally have option to choose boot from legacy or uefi19:03
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: can you type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999919:03
Zai-Cesuoi will try that eric19:03
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: you need to have an .efi file in an efi partition for uefi, for both versions of windows19:03
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: paste the link here when you do19:03
Jarothi19:04
EriC^^aramil: ok, at least your home dir is there19:04
aramilyea19:04
EriC^^aramil: how big is it? type du -sh /mnt/home19:05
Zai-Cesuothere you go eric http://paste.ubuntu.com/11066678/19:05
aramil284G/mnt/home19:06
Zai-Cesuoand to harishkrupo, yes i can choose UEFI in the boot menu. if i only choose the SSD, it usually doesnt even start Windows. I need to choose UEFI boot19:06
Zai-CesuoI will install bootrepair meanwhile..19:06
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: the second windows installation is installed in legacy mode19:06
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: it's useless19:06
Zai-Cesuowhat does that mean?19:06
EriC^^it means you had legacy mode and you installed windows and ubuntu in uefi mode19:07
Zai-Cesuois that bad? I am too much of a noob to understand19:07
EriC^^so now you can only boot those 2, unless you switch the bios to legacy, and put that disk first in the list, then you can only boot the second windows installation19:07
EriC^^aramil: ok19:07
EriC^^do you have another hdd or something to put /home in?19:08
aramilnope only have the one hd19:08
iBeatBlaxxwho invented buffer overflows?19:08
Zai-Cesuoso i need to go into the boot menu and switch to legacy? and put the SSD first on the list?19:08
ioriaaramil can you ls  lost+found ?19:08
aramil?19:08
k1l_iBeatBlaxx: that is not a ubuntu support issue, is it?19:09
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: no, you need to install ubuntu and windows in legacy mode, or reinstall the second windows in uefi mode19:09
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, you are able to boot into ubuntu and windows( of sdb ) right?19:09
iBeatBlaxxwell, i found a buffer overflow in 15.04 but i am curious as to who invented the technique19:09
Zai-Cesuothat would mean i lose all my data... :( (except i put it somewhere first)19:10
Zai-Cesuoharishkrupo: what does sdb mean? I can boot into ubuntu without any probllems19:10
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, u can boot into windows which is in hard drive or ssd?19:11
ioriaaramil ls -a  /mnt/lost+found19:11
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: hmm this is odd19:11
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: grub finds the legacy windows in sdb but not the uefi in sda19:11
Zai-CesuoGrub only lets me boot the HDD windows. Ubuntu and Windows ultimate are on the SSD19:11
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, looks like grub is detecting windows which was installed in legacy19:11
aramillubuntu@lubuntu:~$ sudo ls -a  /mnt/lost+found19:11
aramil.  ..19:11
EriC^^that's so odd19:11
iBeatBlaxxi wouldn19:11
harishkrupoEriC^^, yup thats odd19:12
iBeatBlaxxi wouldn't install ubuntu on an hdd19:12
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, first try boot repair19:12
Zai-Cesuoand i got no clue how i even installed the wrong way.. how do i choose to install in uefi or legacy mode?19:12
iBeatBlaxxjust use a vm if you're running a windows computer19:12
Bray90820So I can't seem to get my samba share working on 15.04 it worked fine for like a day but now no computers can connect to it19:12
iBeatBlaxxgrub messes everything up19:12
k1l_iBeatBlaxx: that is not right. please dont spread that19:12
harishkrupoZai-Cesuo, boot repair should fix most of the problems19:12
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: if legacy mode is enabled in the bios, it usually boots the live usb in that mode and installs accordingly19:12
Bray90820Connect to my samba share that is19:12
Zai-Cesuoibeatblaxx: i did that before, but i wanted to have the option to boot either of them19:12
Zai-Cesuoah i see..19:13
Zai-Cesuoi never changed anything in my bios ever though..19:13
iBeatBlaxxk1l_: when i uninstalled ubuntu, grub was deleted too and then i had no windows bootloader19:13
k1l_iBeatBlaxx: that is as intended19:13
Zai-Cesuodamnit! i might have! I updated my bios when i got the SSD... cuz it couldnt find it. might have changed the standard settings..19:13
iBeatBlaxxi wasn't able to reinstall a bootloader to my windows partition and i lost everything on my hard disk19:13
k1l_iBeatBlaxx: you need to reinstall the windows bootloader again. or install grub in a way it works without an installed ubuntu.19:13
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: if legacy mode is enabled in the bios, it usually boots the live usb in that mode and installs accordingly19:14
EriC^^crap19:14
EriC^^typo19:14
Zai-Cesuowell eric, i will try to get the boot repair working.. maybe that fixes everything..19:14
ioriaaramil seems you have lost dev, etc, proc and sys, or are on another partition19:14
EriC^^aramil: you can resize your partition using gparted, and make a separate /home to back up the data, but resizing a partition is usually safe but who knows19:15
EriC^^aramil: or you could make leave it empty with just /home and not format the hdd in the installer, but i have no idea if the installer would leave everything in /home intact19:15
EriC^^*maybe19:15
EriC^^aramil: best option would be to get another hdd and backup your stuff there then reinstall19:16
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: ok19:16
ioriaEric^^ how it happened, in your opinion  ?19:16
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: are you in ubuntu right now?19:16
EriC^^ioria: he tried installing and it went wrong mid way19:16
ioriayup19:16
EriC^^but i think that shows that the installer leaves /home in tact, or it hadn't started touching it yet19:17
aramileric: i could just make a 300gb partition move my /home there then do a reinstall then move it back am i right?19:17
Zai-Cesuoshall i just run the recommended reparation?19:17
harishkrupoyes19:17
Zai-Cesuothere goes nothing... thanks in advance and lets see what happens19:18
EriC^^aramil: yeah you could, but i mean it's your data, there's always a risk with partitioning and stuff19:18
capradmarEriC^^: I understood what happened: during installation, I create a swap drive on my usb stick :0)19:18
Zai-Cesuo"The current session is in Legacy mode. Please reboot the computer, and use this software in an EFI session. This will enable this feature. For example, use a live-USB of Boot-Repair-Disk-64bit (www.sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd), after making sure your BIOS is set up to boot USB in EFI mode."19:18
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: yeah that makes sense how grub found windows on sdb19:18
aramilso its ether doing that or lose everything then?19:18
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: are you in ubuntu right now?19:18
EriC^^or a live usb?19:18
Zai-Cesuoyes19:18
Zai-Cesuoi am on ubuntu19:19
EriC^^the installation not a live usb?19:19
Zai-Cesuoi installed it with a burned iso19:19
Zai-Cesuoif thats what you mean19:19
EriC^^you booted normally into it? not chrooted?19:19
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Guest72696how can i see cpu usage on the bottom panel in LXDE?19:19
Zai-Cesuoi booted normally through the Grub. i simply chose ubuntu19:19
EriC^^ok now it makes sense, just noticed the bios grub partition19:20
Zai-Cesuoso what do i do now?19:20
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: ok, reinstall the windows ssd in legacy mode19:20
EriC^^and you should be good19:20
Zai-Cesuonooo :(.... after all my hard work to install windows ultimate on there...19:21
harishkrupoor try changing to uefi mode and boot from ssd19:21
Zai-Cesuoi will try the uefi mode first19:21
Zai-Cesuosounds like the easier way19:21
EriC^^yeah it should boot windows, but you'd have to change the bios mode every time you wanted to boot it19:21
harishkrupothat is true19:21
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: that's not a permanent solution..19:21
Zai-Cesuodamn19:22
iBeatBlaxxthe best thing to do is always use a vm i don't get how people are still not using vms these days19:22
iBeatBlaxxsnapshots are amazing19:22
Zai-Cesuoso if i reinstall windows.. should i "deintall" ubuntu first as well?19:22
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: no, just reinstall windows, but make sure you boot it in legacy mode19:22
EriC^^use its partitioner so it doesn't touch ubuntu, then reinstall grub using a live usb19:22
harishkrupoif you reinstall windows, it will over write mbr19:23
EriC^^yeah19:23
Zai-CesuoJust to sum it up: Switch bios to from UEFI to legacy mode. put the Windows CD back in and install.. Grub will pop up and do what i want it to do?19:23
harishkrupothe use boot repair from live cd19:23
MikeHunt#gnome-ubuntu19:23
harishkrupogrub will not pop up19:23
Zai-Cesuoi see...19:23
harishkrupoyou will have to boot into a live medium and use boot repair19:24
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: no, make sure windows doesn't boot in uefi mode, only legacy, and reinstall it using its partitioner, then your pc won't boot grub, so use a live usb to reinstall grub19:24
Zai-Cesuoi dont have a live usb... In the worst case i will come back here and get help for that if i cant find anything on google..19:24
harishkrupolive usb or DVD19:24
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: you can't do anything in that case19:24
EriC^^unless windows has a program that you can dd back the mbr if you copy it now19:25
Zai-Cesuoah.. i got my DVD with ubuntu19:25
EriC^^something similar to dd19:25
EriC^^ok, you're all set then, just make sure windows boots in legacy mode19:25
EriC^^if in the partioner it mentions an efi partition, you know for sure it's trying to install in uefi mode19:26
OverrRydeafternoon everyone!19:26
Zai-Cesuoyou guys were wonderful. it sounds like you guys know what you are doing. mad respect for you. hope i can learn some more soon as well. Thanks to you guys!19:26
Zai-CesuoI will try it. Thanks everyone! I wont be doing that before tomorrow though.. its getting late..19:26
EriC^^Zai-Cesuo: it might say efi partition in the installer though cause you have one already..19:26
EriC^^ok19:26
aramilhow much space does / need?19:27
mgaunardubuntu 15.04 has been nothing but trouble, grub failed during installation and it didn't even say why19:27
EriC^^aramil: 20gb is good19:27
mgaunardapparently this is related to EFI19:27
mgaunardhow do I install normal grub and not this EFI crap19:27
Zai-Cesuolol you came to the right neighbourhood19:27
mgaunardI've managed to partially recover things19:28
EriC^^mgaunard: are you in a live usb right now?19:28
mgaunardbut grub-install is unhappy because /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist19:28
mgaunardno I managed to boot on the partition after running boot-repair on it19:28
EriC^^ok, type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi19:29
mgaunardno such file or directory19:29
EriC^^ok, so you're in legacy mode19:29
EriC^^sudo apt-get install grub-pc19:29
mgaunardthanks19:29
aramilim trying to resize stuff for reinstall but i cant unmount /mnt19:29
iBeatBlaxxaramil, this is why you should always install from a flash drive19:30
mgaunardthe usb flash drive I used to boot was in uefi mode but not my main drive19:30
EriC^^aramil: are you in the dir?19:30
aramilno19:30
EriC^^aramil: close all terminals and type sudo umount /mnt19:30
mgaunardapparently this caused ubuntu to think it should use efi everywhere19:30
aramilumount: /mnt: target is busy19:31
EriC^^aramil: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done19:31
EriC^^i think none of them mounted earlier though19:31
aramilmount point not found for everything19:31
EriC^^type lsof | grep /mnt19:32
aramilok now what19:32
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EriC^^aramil: did it say anything?19:34
aramilnope19:34
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capradmarEriC^^: I managed to repair my live usb, then I tried to install boot repair using this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair19:35
aramilwait gparted unmounted it19:35
EriC^^aramil: ok19:35
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iBeatBlaxxcapradmar: i wish i knew about boot repair before formatting all my drives and reinstalling everything19:38
MonkeyDustiBeatBlaxx  that's called a learning process19:45
iBeatBlaxxMonkeyDust: not when you have a lot of important files and memories from pictures and videos it's not19:46
iBeatBlaxxthat's called torture19:46
aramilso when i create /home on a different  partition will it just have my /home folder on it?19:47
ioriano19:47
ioriayou have to mount it19:48
k1l_iBeatBlaxx: data without a backup is not important data. its hard but that is the truth. if the harddisk got a hardware failure that data would be gone too.19:48
RainxAnyone knows, if its possible to mount onedrive/skydrive library through curlftp or something else. "like you can map network drive to onedrive in windows using https://d.docs.live.net/"your CID number" ?19:48
Flannelaramil: You actually won't have "/home" in it, you'll have the stuff inside of /home (like your-user, someone-else, etc) in it.19:48
iBeatBlaxxk1l_: what is a good place to backup data?19:49
aramilso after i install ubuntu i mount lets say /dev/sda3 at /home?19:49
ioriano /home/rescue for example and to be stable you have to edit fstab19:50
k1l_iBeatBlaxx: other disk/location. there are thousands of ways and setups.19:50
Flannelaramil: You can actually do it all during the install process itself.19:50
auronandaceiBeatBlaxx: an external harddrive is a good start but if you want it super safe then you'll want offsite backups too19:51
bhautikhi19:56
reveredgehi19:57
reveredgebhautik,19:57
reveredgewhat does that mean?19:57
reveredgegeography?19:57
hadifarnoudthis is supposed to make </body></html> two lines, one for each tag. sed -i 's/<\/body>/\&/' *.html19:57
hadifarnoudbut it doesn't work19:57
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aramilits just that the /home that im going to have on a different partition will have some stuff in it and idk if the installer will delete it19:58
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mgaunarddoes ubuntu have first-class support for cinnamon now?20:02
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xanguaubuntu matte is an official flavor starting with 15.04 , don't know anything about cinnamon20:03
k1l_mgaunard: cinnamon is in the repos since 14.1020:04
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xanguatoo many gnome forks20:04
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iBeatBlaxxxangua: that's gay20:06
SchrodingersScat!guidelines | iBeatBlaxx20:06
ubottuiBeatBlaxx: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines20:06
iBeatBlaxxwhat did i say?20:06
mgaunardk1l_: I thought it had been removed at some point20:06
Parabolawhy did they remove raid from the ubuntu desktop install.20:10
capradmarit triggered an error in the end: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11067137/20:11
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Parabolawhere is the god damn alternate image,20:14
Parabolahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-194b248381c71c37f7b187c6b814bbe7e31d91d6 this says its on the download page, its clearly not on the mirrors, or its not labeled as alternate.20:14
jParktonwhich god damn alternate image?20:14
Music_Hi, Do you know why Rhythmbox (3.0.2 or the latest 3.20) allocates 2 GB of my virtual memory??20:15
ParabolajParkton: whichever gets me 15.04 with raid support in the installer :)20:15
Parabolanewest i see on any repo is a 2012 release.20:15
jParktonyou mean these? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/15.04/20:17
Parabolathats netboot20:17
Parabolahttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads20:17
Parabolai see alternative ISOs in BT form, but its for 3 year old releases.20:17
nicooHi. My (X)Ubuntu system seems to be in a bad state since I upgraded to 15.04. It seems keyboard-configuration (the package) is broken, and that it prevents dpkg from configuring a bunch of other dependent packages20:17
Parabolathey are missing for LTS and 15.0420:17
nicoodpkg log at https://gist.github.com/nbraud/6bb8a95f1676b9298e3b20:17
Parabolaso someone fucked up documentation20:17
Parabolait appears they dont do alt ISOs anymore20:18
nicooI already tried dpkg -r --force-depends keyboard-configuration and reinstalling it. Doesn't change anything, same error20:19
sebastianHi guys, I'm using virt-resize to expand a partition reported present by virt-filesystems but when I try to resize it I get an: "partition not found in the source disk"20:19
sebastianI'm totally stuck now20:19
sebastian"/dev/sda5"  is present, is an ext4, I don't get why can't expand20:20
capradmarAfter installing ubuntu, I have the minimal bash like. Here is my boot info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11067137/ What's wrong?20:22
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hadifarnoudif I recompile nginx with PageSpeed support, would that change any of my configs? or is it straight forward?20:30
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rek!ubottu20:32
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rek!ubottu chat20:32
rekwhat's the ubuntu chat channel?20:33
Fuchs#ubuntu-offtopic  would be one of them20:33
rekcool20:33
Fuchssee alis for a couple more20:33
iBeatBlaxxwhat's the other fucks?20:33
reki like your nickname20:33
FuchsI like it, too20:33
iBeatBlaxxsorry autocorrect* Fuchs**20:33
rekit's like you fuck a lot20:33
MonkeyDustlanguage20:34
FuchsI do, but that's not really on topic for this channel nor the family friendly language we'd like to have in here.20:34
Fuchsso please continue with that somewhere else, preferably where nobody can read it ♥20:34
MonkeyDustiBeatBlaxx  and family friendly nicks20:34
rekFuchs: are you like an important person here?20:35
MonkeyDustrek  stay polite20:35
rekMonkeyDust: ok20:35
rekjust using tinycore now hehehe that's why i'm nervous20:35
jParktonreisio: O/20:36
rekhey guys i don't remember whos' krabador or something.... what's his channel?20:36
Parabolajesus christ, is there any documentation on ubuntu's site thats remotely accurate regarding mdadm raid DURING the install?20:37
Parabolaor is QA thrown to the wind on documentation and its IDGAF errday?20:37
devops_guyhey if I add a root certificate to /usr/local/share/ca-certificates and run update-ca-certificates, should curl work without error?20:37
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reisiojParkton: \o20:37
rekhei20:38
guest7392I am looking for ways to configure the screen brightness in X11, as my laptop LCD still hurts my eyes even on the lowest setting. For Windows there is Dimmer which is written in .NET but does not run with Mono. Any help would be greatly appreciated.20:39
Paraboladid you try googling it20:39
Parabolahttps://www.google.com/search?q=xorg+screen+brightness&oq=xorg+screen+brightness&aqs=chrome..69i57.4519j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-820:39
reisioguest7392: you can increase further with software using xgamma20:39
HelpeRXcan i use the trusty kernel in utopic velvet20:39
reisioguest7392: I'd also recommend using xcalib -i -a to invert colors at night20:39
reisioguest7392: and with -green 1.0 0.0 75.0 -blue 1.0 0.0 50.0 to reduce blue light20:40
reisioHelpeRX: sure20:40
MonkeyDust!info redshift | guest7392 is this useful20:40
ubottuguest7392 is this useful: redshift (source: redshift): Adjusts the color temperature of your screen. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.1-4ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 52 kB, installed size 476 kB20:40
HelpeRXthanks lol20:41
HelpeRXalso will the upgrade change all my sysctl.conf?20:42
guest7392MonkeyDust: I have used f.lux before and it is great but I would prefer to just dim my screeninstead of filtering blue light, but thank you for the suggestion20:42
HelpeRXi hate flux lol20:42
Parabolaf.lux is fantastic.20:42
Parabolaidk about on a computer, but its the first thing i put on my phone20:43
HelpeRXno it doesnt effect your stress or sleep pattern there is no science just a placebo effect20:43
k1l_guest7392: use redshift like redshift-gtk20:43
guest7392HelpeRX: It helps to releive eye strain for me20:43
Parabolano, its really not up for discussion20:44
Parabolai can assure you I know what my eyes like better than you do.20:44
HelpeRXlmfao20:44
HelpeRXyou make like it better but it is nothing but a placebo effect20:44
Parabolayou're an idiot20:44
HelpeRXmay*20:44
HelpeRXthe truth hurts bruh?20:45
HelpeRXyou mad?20:45
reisios/you mad/umadbro/20:45
reisiodo it right20:45
k1l_Parabola: HelpeRX first we dont call names in here. second that is not to be discussed in here since we focus on solving the issue and not telling the user he doesnt have an issue.20:46
guest7392HelpeRX: a quick Google search reveals lots of credible sources regarding blue light and how it inhibits melatonin production. Also I find your contribution not be very constructive. Your opinion on redshift does not help me in any way.20:46
guest7392reisio: I tried xgamma and although it helps to some extent (I set the gamma to .3) it adds a somewhat blueish hue to my screen. Might just be my crappy laptop screen's fault but it sure is not pleasant to look at. Will experiment some more20:48
reisioguest7392: can change the hue, too20:49
HelpeRXall i did was state a fate and he geos on calling me an idiot so really its not my fault20:49
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guest7392HelpeRX: Could you provide a reliable source on this "fact">20:50
reisioit'll help your eyes whether it helps you sleep or not20:50
reisiothat will be apparent to anyone at all :D20:51
harishkrupo\part20:51
Laurenceb___hi, I have a problem20:51
k1l_guest7392: lets focus on the ubuntu support in here20:51
Laurenceb___I need to restart metacity20:51
Laurenceb___how can i do this?20:51
Laurenceb___metacity --replace &  is failing20:51
reisiokillall it first20:52
Laurenceb___"Unable to open X display"20:52
reisiooh? pgrep -x X20:52
Laurenceb___can you go through the proceedure step by step for me?20:52
reisioLaurenceb___: you in X when you try to run metacity --replace?20:52
Laurenceb___I'm connected by ssh20:52
Laurenceb___the pc is not in a usable state atm20:52
Laurenceb___I only have ssh access20:53
Laurenceb___screen is frozen20:53
reisiotry killall metacity; DISPLAY=:0 nohup metacity --replace > /dev/null 2>&1 &20:54
Laurenceb___so can anyone help me?20:54
Laurenceb___ok20:54
reisioor replace :0 with whatever ps aux | grep X has for a number20:54
Laurenceb___shiiit20:54
Laurenceb___how do i paste to putty in windows lol ?20:54
bindiright click, if you have default settings20:55
reisioLaurenceb___: shift+ins?20:55
RufusGreetings. Running Ubuntu 15.04. I've installed ntfs-3g and gparted, but I can't resize an ntfs partition. Information page says it needs ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g. Any help please? (I get that with gparted live cd as well)20:55
guest7392k1l_: sorry about that. I gave redshift a try and it is already working wonders for my eyes. Thank you for your help and have a good day20:57
Bashing-omRufus: Have you seen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions ?20:59
HelpeRXalright i am sorry everyone for saying the truth there i apologized20:59
Parabolahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID <-- another stellar document by the highschoolers in charge of documentation21:00
Paraboladocumentation 101: "fill it out", "select THE partitions" "the ones you want" these types of terms require the user to make an assumption, or have prior knowledge of a process, if the user had that knowledge, they wouldn't need the guide. test your documentation from the context of a new user, or it will almost always be fucking useless21:01
smw_Hi all, I have a bluetooth headset. I opened up the bluetooth scanner and it said "Not Set Up", so I clicked on it and it now says it is "Disconnected". However, every time I try to toggle the on/off button, it immediately toggles back to off. Anyone seen this before?21:02
Parabolaseriously fix your trash docs21:06
courrierHey guys, I need to install a Windows 7 on computer A that is not able to read the installation DVD, my computer B running Ubuntu is able to read it, how can I create a netboot server temporarily?21:07
reisiocourrier: why can't it read it?21:08
courrierreisio: probably not compatible with the medium, it's a DVD+RW21:09
reisiocourrier: got a usb stick?21:09
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UmeaboyHi!21:11
reisiocourrier: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-16706021:14
maverick1Spiacente, non sono riuscito a trovare nulla relativo a keywords21:15
binBlobHi does someone know how I can set the synaptic touchpad do do the following: When I drag the pad with my finger for a short distance the mouse cursor should not stop after my finger movement ends but it should continue to flow in the dragged direction. Under windows this is called coasting. I tried to setup this feature with synclient but I am not able to achieve the same effect.21:18
reisiobinBlob: CoastingSpeed21:19
OerHeksbinBlob, does the right/or left side of the touchpad have that feature, keep scrolling down?21:19
binBlobI tried to set up the coasting speed but id does not change anything. No I dont have the scrolling feature on the sides21:20
binBlobI suspect that the windows coasting is doing an entirely different thing than the linux coasting21:22
totesmuhgoatshey guys21:22
Pinkamena_Dhi21:22
totesmuhgoatsi have an ubuntu LTS box that i've been upgrading since 10.04, it's now at 14.0421:23
Umeaboyhttp://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/vivid/release/ubuntu-15.04-server-powerpc.iso, is that right for any 27" iMac newer than 2012?21:23
totesmuhgoatsi'm thinking about moving off of LTS and upgrading to 15.04 for newer packages, but i always have issues using the official do-release-upgrade method21:24
UmeaboyI intend to try it on a friends computer without installing it.21:24
totesmuhgoatsthe debian method of editing my sources.list always seems to work for me21:24
totesmuhgoatswhat i'm wondering is, can i go straight from 14.04 to 15.04 this way, or should I do the 14.10 inbetween?21:24
bekkstotesmuhgoats: "No."21:25
totesmuhgoatsbekks: "No." because it's the debian method? or "No." because of skipping the intermediate step?21:26
k1l_totesmuhgoats: you need to upgrade to every release step. or use the LTS to LTS upgrade shortcut21:26
k1l_totesmuhgoats: and we dont use the debian method on ubuntu, we use the update-manager or do-release-upgrade21:26
bekkstotesmuhgoats: You need to upgrade to 14.10 before, but keep in mind that 14.04 is supported until 2019, while being on non-LTS, that means you have to do 10 do-release-upgrades.21:26
UmeaboyI can't seem to find http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/release/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64+mac.iso for 15.04.21:26
UmeaboyAnybody know where to find it?21:26
k1l_totesmuhgoats: just make sure your release-prompt is set to the upgrade path you want to use21:26
daftykinsUmeaboy: you don't need mac ISOs anymore, they're part of the amd64 build21:27
totesmuhgoatsbekks: yea i understand that, it's a home server / desktop so newer packages are starting to be more important than having super long term support21:27
totesmuhgoatsk1l_: yea, i can get it to go through the process with do-release-upgrade, it just always ends up in a broken state21:27
k1l_totesmuhgoats: details matter21:27
totesmuhgoatsin the past i made images and tried it, broke the system, then did the debian method21:27
jParktonthat is pretty cryptic21:28
daftykinstotesmuhgoats: sounds like your machine is full of PPAs you're not removing beforehand21:28
totesmuhgoatsjParkton: what is?21:28
k1l_totesmuhgoats: please show the exact errors in a pastebin21:28
Thesaurusanyone having luck with GLX video output in VLC with nvidia GPU's on 14.04 ?21:28
totesmuhgoatsdaftykins: i thought the update-manager / do-release-upgrade does that for you?21:28
daftykinsno it does not21:29
totesmuhgoatswhen i do the debian method i remove them all manually21:29
bekkstotesmuhgoats: No, you have to do that manually, before. Since ever.21:29
Pinkamena_DDoes anyone know if ubuntu has any kind of tablet-type packages to allow a tablet screen to work with, for example, drag-to-scroll operations?21:29
totesmuhgoatsaah, that might make sense why the one worked and the other didn't21:29
daftykinsupgrade advice says remove PPAs... purge your extra junk, then upgrade21:29
totesmuhgoatswell, i guess i'll try the official method again tonight when nobody is using the system21:29
k1l_totesmuhgoats: and put a "lsb_release -d" "uname -a" "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" in a paste too21:30
Umeaboydaftykins: Really?21:30
UmeaboyOK.21:30
totesmuhgoatsk1l_: will do, one moment21:30
UmeaboyHow do I tell which version of the iMac that he has? Is there a sticker at the back?21:31
UmeaboyI have never looked.21:31
UmeaboyMost of the are x64 right?21:31
reisiojust look in the underside of his cardigan21:31
jParktonreisio: lol21:31
reisioPinkamena_D: up to the wm21:32
Umeaboyreisio: I shouldv'e expected that. ;)21:32
totesmuhgoatsk1l_: http://pastebin.com/S4TWNHK121:33
reisioif it doesn't say on the bottom or side or back, then you're probably in for some detective work21:33
totesmuhgoatseverything seems to be fine there, i would need to change the prompt at the end to do the upgrade to 15.0421:33
reisioeven if it does say you probably are21:33
totesmuhgoatsbut otherwise it's fine21:33
reisioApple isn't big on transparency21:33
reisioeach model is just another step in you buying another one21:33
totesmuhgoatsmy kernel is unsupported, but from an official ubuntu package21:33
ModelEnginehi guys, shmee again. I'm in need of a bit of help trying to get plank to autostart when linux starts, also pcmanfm to be pinned to taskbar21:33
jParktonthat is an understatement21:33
k1l_totesmuhgoats: issue 1: you are using a mainline kernel. issue 2: the relase prompt is set to LTS so it waits for a 16.04 to be relaseasy21:33
k1l_*released21:33
daftykins!mac | Umeaboy This is where you should have started.21:34
ubottuUmeaboy This is where you should have started.: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages21:34
k1l_totesmuhgoats: its a testing kernel. it is not an official canonical supported kernel.21:34
BoogieI have bootable Ubuntu 12.04 portable hard drive. I use it frequently. I tried to boot it on my uncles older pc, it starts in GNU grub. It's a bash command line, I believe. Any idea how to just get it to boot?21:34
k1l_totesmuhgoats: and it still says 14.04.1 so you might miss a lot of upgrades there anyway21:35
BigJI am having a problem with my laptop with suspend.  After I close the lid and try to exit from suspend nothing happens.21:36
R13oseIn Chrome, how do I stop the ctrl = zoom in?21:38
ModelEngineany body?21:40
jParktonR13ose: grab the source tarball of Chrome and rewrite key bindings, recompile and launch21:41
Johnny_LinuxD`oh!21:41
totesmuhgoatsk1l_: hmm, doing dist-upgrade should take care of getting me up to the newest version, no?21:42
R13osejParkton: if I don't want to do that, is there another way?  Isn't ctrl+ anything always the key for most shortcuts?21:42
k1l_totesmuhgoats: no21:42
Johnny_Linuxbirds of a feather totesmuhgoats21:42
totesmuhgoatsJohnny_Linux: hmm?21:43
k1l_totesmuhgoats: ubuntu doesnt use apt-get to upgrade to a new release. if you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it only installs all upgrades including those who will need to have other packages to be installed. like kernel upgrades.21:43
k1l_totesmuhgoats: ubuntu uses on cli "sudo do-release-upgrade" for the upgrade to a new release21:43
totesmuhgoatsk1l_: i see, thanks for the info21:44
totesmuhgoatsi need to learn to ubuntu apparently, i thought i knew what i was doing21:44
jParktonR13ose: unfortunately when you want to modify a program to use something like key bindings differently the only way is to hack it21:45
BoogieI have a bootable Ubuntu 12.04 portable hard drive. I use it frequently. I tried to boot it on my uncles older pc, it starts in GNU grub. It's a bash command line, I believe. Any idea how to just get it to boot?21:45
totesmuhgoatshmm, do-release-upgrade says "No new release found"21:45
R13osejParkton: how else do I open a new tab?21:45
jParktonclick on the plus21:46
jParktonshift+ middle mouse, Ctrl+T21:46
k1l_totesmuhgoats: first make sure you run "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you are on the latest state of that version21:46
jParktona few different ways21:46
totesmuhgoatsk1l_: will do21:46
R13osejParkton: middle mouse button, I don't have that?21:46
k1l_totesmuhgoats: then look at the release-prompt and if its still pointing to "lts". because that means 14.04 is waiting for 16.04 as the next upgrade21:46
totesmuhgoatsk1l_: well, i was trying to get it to go from 14.04.1 to whatever 14.04.x is, the newest one21:47
k1l_totesmuhgoats: that is dont with apt-get dist-upgrade (because that is the regular updates)21:47
totesmuhgoatsk1l_: ah okay, that's what i thought21:47
totesmuhgoatswe'll see if i'm on the right version after this dist-upgrade is done then21:48
k1l_totesmuhgoats: 14.04.x is called point release and think of it as service packs from windows21:48
jParktonR13ose: then use one of the other three methods I named :|21:48
minhello gents21:49
binBlobOk it ssems that the coasting option is only for scrolling! I want the same just for the movement of the mouse.21:49
binBlobthis is the description from the win drivers: http://www.thewindowsplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/enablecoasting.png21:50
daftykinsyeah that's useless.21:51
daftykinsyou're not gonna get synaptic drivers configured via a GUI in Linux21:51
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binBlobyes that is not the problem I cant find the right setting21:51
wish^Im having a problem with Ubuntu, when i shut down, restart or logout the system hangs on the loading screen and does not turn off21:52
wish^Im using Unity, and the logout screen with the 5 dots just keeps going and going.. I waited 15 mins once and it still did not help21:53
bishop#quit21:53
totesmuhgoatsso i just did apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade and lsb_release -d still shows 14.04.121:54
MonkeyDustwish^  while it's in the dots, press ctrl-alt F1 ... then use sudo reboot21:54
daftykinstotesmuhgoats: yeah because dist-upgrade does not upgrade version...21:54
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daftykins!distupgrade21:55
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.21:55
ceibaljuegos de motos21:55
ceibalsebasrrnrr21:55
mgaunarddoes cinnamon perform well with ubuntu or should I use linux mint instead?21:55
ceibalnrkrknr21:55
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totesmuhgoatsdaftykins: i'm just trying to get to 14.04.2, does dist-upgrade not do that?21:55
daftykinsit should have yes21:56
wish^MonkeyDust: thats all good and well. But how can i permanently solve this issue?21:56
wish^Im using an LTE version21:56
daftykinsso either your repos are funky, or this isn't a normal install.. or something21:56
daftykinswish^: LTS.21:56
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totesmuhgoatsdaftykins: yea, i'm gonna guess something is wonky, i've been cobbling this install together for like 6 years now21:57
wish^S yea21:58
totesmuhgoatswell, works is works21:58
daftykinstotesmuhgoats: from what? :)21:58
om3ncake21:59
totesmuhgoatsdaftykins: it was originally a 10.04 release, i updated by the debian method to 12.04, then to 14.04, there's some PPAs and an unsupported kernel in use, migrated the fs to btrfs after the fact, split parts of the fs namespace into different volumes21:59
totesmuhgoatsat some point i am probably gonna need to start over21:59
MonkeyDusttotesmuhgoats  sounds like frankenbuntu22:00
bekkstotesmuhgoats: With a fresh install of 14.04 maybe :)22:00
daftykinsok well then there's your mistake22:00
daftykinsbtrfs on this frankenbuntu? :D22:00
daftykinsgood lord man kill it, kill it now22:00
totesmuhgoatslol btrfs is the best thing that's ever happened to me22:00
bekkstotesmuhgoats: You started to like your misfortune? :P22:01
daftykinshow can you even be sure all its' blessings are functioning on that hodge-podge of an install 0o22:01
Spec-ChumI'm a boring EXT4 kinda guy22:01
vitimitiMe too22:02
totesmuhgoatsdaftykins: yea, it's getting out of hand, but when things work they work. sometimes making things work "right" can cause more things to be wrong than before22:02
daftykinspersonally i don't even believe in upgrades22:03
daftykinsworking in IT so long, i do clean installs and work out a new releases' foibles before migrating data to it, then i just dispose of the old install22:03
daftykinsupgrades are touted as being magical, but they're blatantly a hit it and pray sort of task :)22:04
Johnny_Linuxexactly22:04
Johnny_Linuxtaboo22:04
vitimitiI've been updating since 14.04 without much of a problem22:04
vitimitiGuess was lucky22:04
Wesleiee ae jhows22:04
daftykinsone whole year ago? :)22:05
Wesleikkk22:05
vitimitiYes22:05
daftykinshahaha22:05
Johnny_Linuxel oh el22:05
Wesleitem br ae?22:05
daftykinsWeslei: english only thanks22:05
mgaunardwhat's the package recommended for nvidia drivers?22:05
k1l_upgrades on ubuntu get automated testings. so if you dont stuff too much 3rd party stuff and ppas into it they will work22:05
mgaunardI want to always have the latest one22:05
daftykinsmgaunard: depends on your hardware22:05
daftykinsand ubuntu version22:06
mgaunard15.0422:06
mgaunardmy card is a geforce 8800 gt22:06
daftykinscrikey that thing is 7 years old22:06
ModelEnginehi there: when I try to paste Plank into the ~/.config/autostart folder, it says this: The specified directory'/home/friendlyshop1/ .config/autostart' is not valid22:06
daftykinsno point you running anything newer than the nvidia-331 driver i'd say22:06
mgaunardit's that old? still runs the latest next-gen stuff just fine22:06
daftykinsi don't even think that's a DirectX 11 card so no, you're just not seeing anything to the full effect22:07
totesmuhgoatsdaftykins: yea, my goal was to keep 10.04 for all 8 years of support, but then the packages got unbearably old22:07
daftykinsit didn't have 8 years, it had 4 0o22:07
bekkstotesmuhgoats: 10.04 has 4 years, not 8 years.22:07
daftykinsi just retired my 10.04.4 servers at the end of April22:07
Spec-ChumModelEngine, do you actually have a space before .config or is that a typing error on here?22:07
bekkstotesmuhgoats: Basically your 10.04 is just dead.22:08
ModelEngineSpec-Chum: I do have a space22:08
totesmuhgoatsbekks: well it's a good thing i upgraded then ;)22:08
Spec-ChumI tend to break ubuntu by frankenstening it with various kernels and PPAs22:08
Spec-Chumi can't be trusted iwth linux22:08
daftykinsSpec-Chum: just as long as you never ask for support in here then :P22:08
ModelEngineSpec-Chum: thank you for the help22:09
totesmuhgoatsSpec-Chum: if you can't be trusted with linux you can't be trusted with anything. there's just no room in this world for men like us22:09
mgaunardyou kinda have to install ppa to get the good stuff22:09
ModelEngineSpec-Chum: i just retried it without the space and it worked!22:09
bekkstotesmuhgoats: I wouldnt call that upgrading, more like modifying frankenbuntu.22:09
Spec-ChumModelEngine, NP :)22:09
totesmuhgoatsgonna reboot, one sec22:09
MonkeyDustmutilating, not modifying22:09
Spec-Chumdaftykins, nah, I'm good, i think lol22:09
om3nhey guys, is there a preference in linux for nvidia/ati for drivers etc or is it more specific than that ? iam trying to compose a list of hardware for a dedicated ubuntu box :P22:10
mgaunardis it normal that apt-get update takes more than two hours?22:10
mgaunardliterally22:10
daftykinsmgaunard: no22:10
Spec-ChumI'm a "gotta have it" type, if there's a new version of seom application I want it22:10
Spec-Chum*some22:10
MonkeyDustmgaunard  is the list that long, or the update that slow?22:10
mgaunardFetched 27.5 MB in 2h 19min 12s (3,288 B/s)22:10
Spec-ChumGnome 3.16 came out so you can probably guess what my Ubuntu Gnome install is running...22:11
Spec-Chumseems OK tho, oh and kernel 422:11
mgaunard15.04 uses kernel 4!?22:12
k1l_nope22:12
Spec-Chummgaunard, it can, mine does22:12
Spec-Chum3.19 by default22:12
mgaunardis it 25% better than 3.x?22:12
Johnny_Linuxlook ma, no hands22:12
k1l_the user Spec-Chum was just pointing out that he uses a lot of 3rd party software22:12
Spec-Chumcan't say I noticed a difference22:12
mgaunard4 is 1/4 bigger than 3 though22:13
k1l_Johnny_Linux: xcell, stop that please. ##chat for chatting22:13
mgaunardor are numbers senseless now22:13
Spec-Chumit's just 3.20 but Linux decided it was time to change to 422:13
Spec-Chumthere's not particulalry new in it22:13
Spec-Chum*nothing22:13
Spec-ChumLinus even22:13
ModelEngineI have noticed that i can google or ask a question about Lubuntu and regardless of the fact that I run Lubuntu, I can usually find my answer in the Ubuntu forums, etc. why is that?22:14
daftykinsSpec-Chum: please don't discuss your unsupported mods, it's just going to give people bad ideas :(22:14
mgaunardModelEngine: because lubuntu is ubuntu22:14
ModelEnginedaftykins: i'm all for a bad idea22:14
k1l_ModelEngine: they share the same system base besides the installed desktop.22:14
daftykinsModelEngine: fine, but you can't ask for help here with such a thing :)22:14
bekksSpec-Chum: Then you did not read the changelog ;) At least live patching is worth noticing, like DAX, kasan, parallel NFS, and so on.22:15
binBlobI looked up the synaptics settings under windows and it is not called coasting but momentum.22:15
Spec-Chumdaftykins, I feel it's somewhat relevant to be fair, it is direct from Ubuntu Mainline and I'm sure some people will want to know it works before trying it, but i do take your point and will cease22:15
ModelEnginecool. it's very handy. so my question is why is there both a ubuntu channel and a Lubuntu channel if they're  both run off the same kernel or w/e it's called?22:15
ModelEnginedaftykins: lol :)22:15
binBlobNo wonder I could not find anything22:15
ricksebakI have full disk encryption set up for /, /home, and swap, all using the same password. When I boot I have to enter the same password three times. Is there any way to make it so I only have to enter the password once?22:15
Spec-Chumbekks, I confess I didn't read most of it22:16
mgaunardwhat's kasan22:16
k1l_ModelEngine: because some issue are due to the used desktop enviroment or the different standard setup22:16
mgaunardsounds like kernel address sanitizer22:16
bekksmgaunard: kernel space sanitizer22:16
bekksYeah.22:16
ModelEnginek1l_: oic. tkx22:16
mgaunarddoesn't that add overhead?22:16
Spec-Chumbekks, it was new so obviously I had to have it :p22:17
bekksmgaunard: every fault detection adds overhead for a specific price.22:17
bekksSpec-Chum: There are meds that can heal versionitis, even bad forms of it ;)22:17
gzcwnkhehe22:17
Spec-ChumI think I'm too far gone..,22:18
ModelEngine1 final question, then i'll leave you guys alone :) how do i set num lock to be permanently on, even when i first login to Lubuntu? Note: I have already set my BIOS to num lock state on22:18
Bray90820So I setup a samba share with ubuntu 15.04 and other computer can connect to it with the ip address but not the host name22:22
daftykinsBray90820: that's not an issue.22:24
daftykinsIP based makes more sense and is reliable22:25
daftykinsyou should also use a static IP so it never changes internally.22:25
Bray90820daftykins: I am using static IP22:25
daftykinsgood stuff22:25
Bray90820but I use to be able to enter "smb://server/data" now only "smb://192.168.1.8/data" works22:25
ModelEngineany one?22:26
daftykinsBray90820: yeah i don't consider that an issue.22:27
daftykinssounds like you changed router perhaps22:27
binBlobok so now the question is how do I enable the momentum/interia feature ?22:27
Bray90820daftykins: I reformated my computer and installed 15.04 from 14.1022:28
Bray90820daftykins: Also the share isn't discoverable I have to enter it manually22:30
daftykinsi take it you're installing desktop and selecting to share a folder via its' properties?22:31
daftykinsagain, if it's working - what's the problem?22:31
Bray90820Because I would prefer it to be auto discovered and to be able to use the hostname22:33
daftykinshave fun with that then :)22:33
tswettAhoy.22:34
tswettNow, I can ask questions about 15.04 now, right? I upgraded before it was actually released.22:34
tswettWithout further ado...22:34
daftykinsas long as you're up to date, sure22:34
tswettI'd like to make it so I can change my laptop's screen brightness using the keyboard. Ubuntu didn't seem to recognize the Fn brightness buttons, so I set up Super-Z and Super-X to do that instead.22:35
EriC^^tswett: ok, what's the problem?22:35
tswettUnder System Settings / Keyboard / Shortcuts / Custom Shortcuts, I set one keyboard shortcut to do "xbacklight - 10", and the other to do "xbacklight + 10".22:36
tswettBut now those keyboard shortcuts don't work. Running the commands manually still works, but the keyboard shortcuts don't.22:36
EriC^^try setting the shortcut to gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'xbacklight -10'"22:37
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tswettDone. Pressing the shortcut still doesn't seem to do anything.22:39
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happyfr0ggHas anyone tried the Cyborg Hawk Linux? It is based on Ubuntu 14.04.22:40
EriC^^try setting the shortcut to gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'xbacklight -10; bash'"22:40
k1l_happyfr0gg: we only support official ubuntu versions in here22:40
EriC^^tswett: it should leave the terminal open, see what it says22:40
daftykinshappyfr0gg: unsupported derivative distros are off topic here22:41
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tswettEriC^^: still doesn't seem to do anything.22:42
tswettEven if I set it to just gnome-terminal, it still doesn't seem to do anything.22:42
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Bray90820I think there is something wrong with my host file22:42
Bray90820https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2ac4b4442f7791e8442a22:43
EriC^^tswett: it doesn't open a terminal?22:43
tswettEriC^^: nope.22:43
EriC^^gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'xbacklight -10; bash'"22:43
EriC^^that doesn't?22:43
Bray90820Server is my hostname so should it be changed to the IP of my machine22:43
EriC^^tswett: with bash at the end?22:43
tswettEriC^^: no, it doesn't.22:43
tswettYup.22:43
EriC^^ok, then either you have a typo or the shortcut isn't working, try setting a different shortcut22:44
daftykinsBray90820: no22:44
EriC^^tswett: do you have gnome-terminal installed? are you on unity?22:44
Bray90820daftykins: Does that file look ok?22:44
tswettI notice that the keyboard shortcuts for "launch terminal", "launch web browser", and "home folder" don't seem to work, either. Nothing seems to happen when I press them.22:44
daftykinsBray90820: yes it's normal, your desire for connecting via hostname has nothing to do with the hosts file :)22:44
tswettI do have gnome-terminal installed. I can run it by typing it into itself.22:45
Bray90820Well then what would I do to fix the issue22:45
EriC^^tswett: ok, try setting a different shortcut something without super22:45
daftykinsBray90820: as i said earlier i don't consider it an issue so there's nothing to fix :)22:46
daftykinsBray90820: if you absolutely, DESPERATELY want host pinging, edit the other hosts to have the hostname and IP in their hosts files.22:46
daftykinsthat'd be the easiest way22:46
daftykinsbut you really should just remember IPs :>22:46
Bray90820What I don't understand is why hostnames would just randomly die22:47
daftykinsyou probably installed some other junk in the past, or had samba operating in a different way22:48
tswettI tried setting the "Home folder" shortcut to Ctrl-Alt-N. The shortcut still doesn't seem to work.22:48
tswettSorry to cut this short, but I gotta go. Thanks for your help.22:48
EriC^^ok, no problem22:49
Bray90820daftykins: Do hostnames work by default with samba on ubuntu?22:50
daftykinsdid you even read what i said?22:50
daftykinsdifferent versions can have different defaults.22:50
Bray90820daftykins: Hum alright then I may agree with you22:51
daftykinswas the evidence not enough? :)22:52
Bray90820Well maybe there was something messing with it odk22:52
Bray90820idk22:52
ki7rwthis is strange - i had to replace my hdd but when i restored the backups all the directories appeared on the user desktop - i can't delete the desktop icons without destroying the actual directory22:54
daftykinsbacked up with?22:55
xrayhello22:55
EriC^^ki7rw: you mean you can't remove the individual files without doing rm -r ~/Desktop ?22:55
xraycan you tell me what ubuntu 15 is like in security please22:56
ki7rwi can't delete the icon from the desktop without destroying the directory22:56
bekksxray: what do you mean?22:56
daftykinsit is as secure as ubuntu is22:56
EriC^^ki7rw: anything in ~/Desktop usually shows on the desktop, how do you mean?22:56
xrayis it better than ubuntu 1422:56
daftykinsxray: there is no such thing as better, 14.04 is LTS, 15.04 is not - totally different22:57
ki7rwif the icon is labeled movies - then i delete the movies folder when i delete the icon from the desktop22:57
xraythanks for the great reply22:57
EriC^^ki7rw: where does it get deleted from?22:57
xraythanks daftkins22:58
ki7rwthe icon is deleted from the desktop and the desktop icon represents the actual directory22:58
EriC^^ki7rw: which is located in ~/movies ?22:59
EriC^^ki7rw: can you paste ls -l ~/Desktop | grep <example> ?23:00
ki7rwyes23:00
ki7rwyes the the previous question23:00
EriC^^ok23:01
ki7rwi  guess i'll delete everything and try to restore again23:02
EriC^^ki7rw: can you paste here ls -l ~/Desktop | grep <some example> ?23:02
ki7rwthis has never happened before - ubuntu 14.0423:02
ki7rwEriC^^, i tried that - didn't get any results unless i did ls -l without grep23:05
AR45daftykins: Got the cable.23:05
EriC^^ki7rw: ok, paste one of the lines23:05
wish^Im having a problem with Ubuntu, when i shut down, restart or logout the system hangs on the loading screen and does not turn off23:05
wish^Im using Unity, and the logout screen with the 5 dots just keeps going and going.. I waited 15 mins once and it still did not help23:05
wish^I know like someone said earlier that i can do a command to restart23:05
wish^but should this be necessary?23:05
EriC^^wish^: press esc when that happens and see what it says23:05
wish^seemed to be unresponsive23:08
EriC^^check /var/log/syslog maybe23:09
EriC^^wish^: if you open a tty do you get messages usually?23:09
ZaitzevIs there a way for me to check a textfile on a webpage and compare it to a local textfile, in set intervals?23:09
EriC^^Zaitzev: compare it how23:10
ZaitzevEriC^^: the content of it23:10
ki7rwEriC^^, http://pastebin.com/cqL3uvSU23:10
EriC^^Zaitzev: you mean if it's an exact match?23:11
ZaitzevEriC^^: Yeah and if it differs, download and replace to local file23:11
ki7rwEriC^^, i suppose i could send you a screen shot of the desktop but that might expose something i don't want23:16
dirtysnow^thats why god invented mspaint23:17
Aramilcan someone help me i backed up my /home to a different partition for a reinstall and now i want to move it back to the same partition as /23:18
EriC^^Zaitzev: while sleep <interval>; do wget -O /path/to/file http://something; if [ "$(diff <(cat /path/to/file) <(cat /path/to/file2))" ]; then cp /path/to/file /path/to/file2; rm /path/to/file; fi; done23:19
Zaitzev:O23:19
daftykinsAR45: huzzah, all sorted?23:19
ZaitzevEriC^^: You wracked your brain for that one huh? Nice one dude, I'll try it out!23:20
EriC^^Aramil: mount it and copy it23:21
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EriC^^ki7rw: it's really odd, those are just .desktop files, no idea how they would delete a dir in your home23:21
AR45daftykins: na wasted a bunch of money23:22
EriC^^Zaitzev: it needs some fixing hold on23:22
AR45daftykins: Supports DVI-D with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz23:23
EriC^^Zaitzev: in case it can't download it or something so it doesn't rm the file23:23
AramilEriC^^: thanks it will take a while had near 300gb of stuff backed up23:23
daftykinsAR45: ah so the on-die intel can only do single link huh 0o23:23
daftykinsthat sucks23:23
Spec-ChumAramil, you could just add the current /home partition to your fstab23:24
Spec-Chumbut if you really do need them on the same partition then yes, just copy it23:25
Aramili just hope i can get it done soon storms is a coming23:25
Spec-ChumAramil, make sure you remove any reference of the old /home partition in fstab if it's currently in there23:26
Spec-Chumafter you copy it, obviously23:26
daftykinsAramil: why not just wait then :>23:27
AR45daftykins: my mother board only supports DVI-D with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz23:27
daftykinswell not your mobo but the graphics from the CPU more likely23:27
AR45daftykins: supports HDMI with max. resolution 4096 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz23:28
EriC^^Zaitzev: nevermind, just use && rm instead of ; rm it's not really safe against if the file suddenly becomes a 404 page or something, but in case it couldn't copy for some reason you'd still have the file it downloaded first23:28
ZaitzevI got it23:28
AR45daftykins: remember the monitor with the hdmi is working perfectly well that's why23:28
AR45daftykins: problem is there's only 1 hdmi port23:29
AR45daftykins: are you sure23:29
ModelEngineHello, is it possible to download HexChat for Lubuntu?23:30
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EriC^^ModelEngine: yeah, sudo apt-get install hexchat23:30
k1l_ModelEngine: "sudo apt-get install hexchat"23:30
ModelEngineEriC^^: super thanks23:30
ModelEnginealso, is it possible to put custome apps on my Plank dock?23:31
Spec-ChumAR45, the HDMI port on your mobo will be using the IGP on the CPU23:31
AR45IGP?23:32
Spec-ChumIntegrated Graphics Processor23:32
daftykinsintegrated/intel graphics processor23:32
daftykinsAR45: doesn't matter either way i guess, you're out of luck23:32
Spec-Chumwhat's he trying to do?23:33
ModelEngineIGP, isn't that onboard graphics?23:33
daftykinsi should think an i-series CPU would handle dual link DVI, but perhaps the motherboard doesn't have a dual link socket23:33
Spec-Chummissed the actual Q23:33
Spec-ChumModelEngine, yes23:33
Horsehello does anyone know if there is a new version of ubuntu coming out soon23:33
daftykinsSpec-Chum: run 2 x 2560x1600 LCDs from on-die graphics23:33
daftykinsone over HDMI, second over DVI23:33
EriC^^!wily23:33
ubottuUbuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) will be the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Discussion in #ubuntu+123:33
k1l_Horse: there just was a release.23:33
k1l_!releases | Horse23:33
ubottuHorse: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases23:33
daftykinsbut it sounds like the motherboard manufacturer only put a single link DVI socket on23:33
Bashing-omHorse: A new version is released every 6 months .23:34
Horseok will i have 14.04 version was wondering if there is one out or coming out soon23:34
Spec-Chumah right, not sure about that23:35
AR45daftykins: so what the hell23:35
AR45daftykins: even if I got a hdmi splitter it wouldn't work23:36
daftykinspretty sure you cannot drive two displays from one socket23:36
Spec-ChumAR45, that'd output the same to both monitors anyway, surely not what you want?23:37
daftykinsyour only choice would be displayport daisy-chaining, which your displays would likely not support23:37
daftykinsso it's graphics card time for you23:37
AR45FUCK23:37
AR45sorry23:37
AR45sorry guys23:37
Horseno problem23:37
mectors7147 with lots of goodies. Where are you?23:38
AR45I was on the phone so I wasn't communicating properly.23:38
AR45So it's an intel 4600 onboard chip23:38
daftykinsyeah haswell GT223:38
AR45HD Graphics 4600 they call it23:38
daftykinskinda surprised you're getting by without a proper card anyway23:38
Spec-Chumoh I dunno, the 4600 is quite the powerhouse for an IGP23:39
Spec-Chummy laptop has one23:39
* daftykins chuckles23:39
AR45dammit23:40
Spec-Chumit's also got a Nvidia GTX860M but it never uses it on linux23:40
AR45I'm guessing I have to get myself a NVIDIA GFX Card.23:40
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AR45daftykins: http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/H97PLUS/specifications/23:41
daftykinsyip23:41
daftykinssocket is dual-link23:41
ki7rwis there a way for 2 bluetooth headsets to share the same source?23:41
daftykinsAR45: give me your CPU model?23:41
AR45daftykins: i5-459023:42
ModelEngineis there a way to config hex chat to auto join #ubuntu?23:44
Guest12381yea23:44
AR45ModelEngine: more than likely23:44
Guest12381in the auto join tab, when setting up network23:44
ModelEnginelike a fav list or something for my fav channels23:44
Spec-ChumModelEngine, yeah, right click -> autojoin23:44
ModelEnginecool, thanks guys23:44
Guest12381will installing a setting to MBR with grub-customizer be certain to show all available operating systems at startup?23:45
Guest12381when grub is installed ofcf23:46
Guest12381ofc*23:46
EriC^^Guest12381: no grub setting is set in the mbr23:46
Guest12381so grub settings are already stored in the mbt23:46
Guest12381mbr*23:46
Guest12381?23:46
EriC^^no, they're stored in /boot/grub/grub.cfg23:47
Guest12381but the mbr has a copy?23:47
Guest12381or just accesses /boot partition when booting23:47
EriC^^no, the mbr just has the bootloader23:47
EriC^^yeah23:47
Guest12381so all boot files are in the /boot folder/partition and the mbr just reads that information?23:47
EriC^^yeah23:48
ModelEnginei'm pretty surprised regarding the lack of swearing and flamming on here.23:48
Guest12381cool , thanks23:48
ModelEngineis that due to it being moderated?23:48
james_hello there23:48
daftykinsAR45: well that's a surprise to me, nope no dual-link DVI off the motherboard at all. The only options for high-res is HDMI, or having a board with displayport which obviously that one isn't23:48
ModelEngineis it moderated in real-time?23:48
Guest12381is what moderated?23:49
AR45Cool looks like I have to take some parts back.23:49
daftykinsAR45: but you can drive one display from the HDMI there still and get even a super budget end card and have the second from there23:49
AR45They are all under 30 day warranty23:49
ModelEnginethis channel?23:49
daftykinsAR45: though i think i'd prefer a card both could come off for simplicity23:49
Guest12381yea ofc23:49
Guest12381read /topic23:49
daftykinsModelEngine: this place gets its fair share of trolls.23:49
daftykinssome, it seems, have a problem with volunteer provided free help :(23:49
ModelEnginereally? crazy. i don't know if ive ever seen a really bad batch of ppl on here23:49
ModelEngineis there a way to eject 'bad apples'?23:50
Guest12381bad apples?23:50
AR45daftykins: I was planning on getting a gfx card to run some games anyways.23:50
ModelEngineppl swearing and such23:51
Guest12381yea, /kick command23:51
ModelEnginecool23:51
Guest12381only for operators though23:51
ModelEnginerats23:51
ModelEngine:)\23:51
AR45daftykins: The store has a 750TI for 159 bucks, not too sure how it benchmarks23:51
daftykinsModelEngine: if you see some idiots, join #ubuntu-ops and report them.23:51
ModelEnginecool thanks dafty23:51
daftykinsAR45: mmm, not too bad i guess. bear in mind that card requires some slight fiddling to get running on 14.0423:52
AR45I'm using 15.0523:52
AR45I'm using 15.04*23:52
daftykinsalright, you'll still need to install an nvidia 340+ driver for that one23:53
AR45daftykins: http://www.microcenter.com/product/354355/GeForce_8400_GS_1024MB_DDR3_PCIe_20_x16_Video_Card23:53
daftykinsnah 8400GS are ghetto as23:54
AR45daftykins: recommend something man23:54
daftykinsnah23:54
AR45o_o23:54
daftykinsplus you didn't say the magic word even!23:54
daftykinsbut no i'm too busy right now23:54
daftykinsask ##hardware perhaps23:54
AR45daftykins: what are you using?23:54
daftykinsa 7 year old PC :)23:55
AR45Oh!23:56
grendhi folks23:57
daftykinshello again grend23:57
grenddaftykins: http://pastie.org/private/vcevio4jhhsm6cglolga23:57
grend:)23:57
daftykinswhat happened with your faulty hard disk situation?23:57
grendwell I am awake now and I managed to boot up using live cd23:58
grendand run a test23:58
daftykinshmm that appears to only be a partial smartctl output23:58
daftykinssmartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit23:58

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