[00:00] <grend> daftykins: seems so
[00:00] <grend> busy box built in sheel
[00:00] <grend> shell
[00:00] <daftykins> do you have a Live DVD/USB to hand?
[00:00] <grend> somewhere yes
[00:00] <daftykins> it'd be handy if you could come back from a live session to check that disks health
[00:00] <AR45> http://paste.debian.net/174108/
[00:00] <daftykins> any action before knowing if it's ok will likely trash your system
[00:01] <grend> daftykins: so boot life and check hdd state
[00:01] <grend> live
[00:01] <daftykins> yep come on here and i'll give you the commands
[00:02] <daftykins> AR45: look at lines 130 and 131
[00:02] <daftykins> it thinks one is HDMI1 and has 1920x1080, but then HDMI2 it sees 2560x1080 O_O
[00:03] <AR45> Hm it isn't HDMI it's DVI.
[00:03] <daftykins> yeah yeah, details :P
[00:03] <daftykins> AR45: can you run "xrandr | pastebinit" ?
[00:04] <daftykins> be right back
[00:04] <AR45> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11052502/
[00:07] <daftykins> AR45: so identical displays you say, just one is HDMI and one is DVI straight off the motherboard?
[00:07] <AR45> yes
[00:07] <daftykins> ok one sec
[00:09] <daftykins> AR45: try: xrandr --output HDMI2 --mode 1920x1080
[00:10] <AR45> daftykins: just so you know the default resolution is 2560 x 1080
[00:10] <abdo_losh> evening
[00:10] <daftykins> AR45: wait what, so that one is correct but the one that is @ 1920x1080 is wrong?
[00:11] <AR45> Yes
[00:11] <AR45> The monitor that is displaying at 1920x1080 is connected via DVI
[00:12] <AR45> The one at 2560 x 1080 is being displayed
[00:12] <daftykins> AR45: alright, that is a weird resolution. try "xrandr --addmode HDMI1 2560x1080"
[00:12] <AR45> on the hdmi
[00:12] <daftykins> AR45: are you using a dual-link DVI cable?
[00:12] <AR45> It's called 21:9 aspect ratio
[00:13] <pkzip> enfuse has written a very large temp file (200 gig or so). how can i find out where?
[00:13] <pkzip> it is not in /tmp
[00:13] <daftykins> use find / -size blah blah
[00:13] <AR45> daftykins: I don't think so.
[00:13] <pkzip> daftykins, i dont know the size
[00:13] <EriC^> pkzip: find / -size +140G
[00:13] <daftykins> AR45: that'll be your problem then, unless this works on another OS?
[00:14] <pkzip> EriC^, thx
[00:14] <EriC^> np
[00:15] <abdo_losh> caja 1.8 : i think the drag+drop issue i was having last night has been fixed by some update pushed tonight.. ftchew
[00:15] <daftykins> AR45: read the writing on the DVI cable and see if it has single/dual link or a value of 160/165MHz - which would make it single link
[00:15] <abdo_losh> USB mouse freezinf sporadically issue remains
[00:16] <daftykins> for the chewbacca?
[00:16] <dawiisss> hi guys
[00:16] <daftykins> hi
[00:16] <dawiisss> which one of you uses hexchat for irc?
[00:16] <daftykins> just ask your actual question
[00:16] <dawiisss> ........
[00:16] <pkzip> wasnt there a program like hog or so which shows the largest files on the hd?
[00:17] <dawiisss> Is there a way to minimize hexchat to tray in ubuntu??
[00:18] <OerHeks> !info baobab
[00:19] <daftykins> dawiisss: if there is, is it not in its' settings?
[00:19] <dawiisss> daftykins: nope
[00:19] <OerHeks> dawiisss, just click on the '-'
[00:19] <daftykins> dawiisss: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45793/xchat-disappearing-after-minimize-to-tray
[00:19] <daftykins> google #1
[00:20] <AndyDavis> !websocketd > AndyDavis
[00:20] <daftykins> AR45: so?
[00:20] <AR45> daftykins: nope
[00:21] <dawiisss> daftykins: That's for the old version new version doesn't contain the tray options at all
[00:21] <shome2> Hey all
[00:23] <EriC^> hey
[00:23] <daftykins> AR45: er nope to what?
[00:23] <daftykins> 1) does another OS work fine? 2) identify the cable?
[00:26] <AR45> It's Ubuntu and I just bought the cable from the store
[00:29] <shome2> Do you guys find that kde seems to be a resource hog ?
[00:29] <daftykins> AR45: so no writing? no packaging detailing whether it's single or dual link? honestly given this is your problem, you don't seem to be helping me out as much as vice versa ;)
[00:29] <shome2> More so than unity anyway.
[00:30] <AR45> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11052790/
[00:31] <daftykins> what's this?
[00:32] <AR45> daftykins: here
[00:32] <AR45> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11052814/
[00:32] <AR45> maybe this is better
[00:34] <daftykins> ok so there's an error with my syntax
[00:34] <daftykins> AR45: you _need_ to find out if this cable is single or dual link. there's no point messing around with commands otherwise, it simply won't work
[00:35] <AR45> I have DVI-D
[00:35] <daftykins> http://www.naplestech.com/images/DVI-dual-link-vs-single-link.jpg
[00:35] <daftykins> you're just typing irrelevant things to me now
[00:35] <AR45> Dual Link
[00:35] <EriC^> there's no error with the syntax, hdmi1 doesn't have that output
[00:35] <EriC^> hdmi2 worked
[00:36] <AR45> some times i feel ruhtarded
[00:37] <daftykins> well you're staying silent instead of asking when you don't understand, so there's that
[00:37] <daftykins> ah yeah the wrong commands are being run there
[00:37] <EriC^> AR45: are you trying to get that resolution on hdmi1?
[00:38] <AR45> NO! It's connected via a DVI-D -Dual Link Port.
[00:38] <AR45> The other is connected via the HDMI Port.
[00:38] <daftykins> i'm asking you to look at the cable XD
[00:38] <daftykins> not the port
[00:39] <daftykins> EriC^: yeah identical displays, one HDMI, one DVI - the DVI shows: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11052502/
[00:39] <daftykins> that it doesn't have the same top res (we're looking to get 2560x1080 on both)
[00:39] <AR45> It's Single actually.
[00:39] <daftykins> on the cable?
[00:39] <daftykins> yeah so this is never going to work
[00:39] <daftykins> single link cannot carry greater than 1920x1080, you need to take it back to the shop and exchange it
[00:39] <AR45> I paid $20 bucks for this cable.
[00:40] <EriC^> i bought an hdmi cable the other day, and when i came home it was a mini hdmi on one end, i feel your pain
[00:41] <daftykins> hehe, doh!
[00:44] <Mark___> Hi there. after 5 hours I have now given up. I am trying to install guest additions on Ubuntu within a virtual box.. and I am completely stumped.. anyone have experience in doing this?
[00:44] <EriC^> click on devices > insert guest additions iso
[00:44] <limacharlie> Mark___, whats going on?
[00:45] <nith1210> ls
[00:45] <EriC^> then open the file manager and it should be there, open a terminal and run sudo ./Vbox-Linux-.....sh
[00:45] <limacharlie> Mark___, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-a-virtualbox-vm
[00:46] <limacharlie> Mark___, that's a pretty straight forward resource.
[00:46] <aaas> I used git to clone some files to a directory, this directory is on a samba (cifs) share on a freenas nfs,  The parent directory is set to 'drwxrwxrwx',  tmp files are set to '-r--rw-r--' by git.  I get 'permission denied' errors when i try and delete these files (when I try running git, or just a simple rm)... if I set the file to +w I can delete it, but everything online tells me that it's the parent directory which determines whether I can de
[00:46] <aaas> lete a file, with deleting files in other directories (maybe it's a freenas/cifs problem?)  is there anything else that controls whether i can delete a file besides permissions/ownership?
[00:46] <EriC^> aaas: type lsattr /path/to/file
[00:47] <EriC^> ps i only read your last sentence and half of your first
[00:47] <Mark___> Thanks for sending those answers, I should have been more clear, I am unable to install guest aditions for some reason, THis is the only error that I can find.. "The headers for the current kernal were not found"
[00:48] <aaas> EriC^ "lsattr: Operation not supported While reading flags on <filename>
[00:48] <EriC^> Mark___: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[00:48] <EriC^> aaas: sudo lsattr
[00:48] <aaas> EriC^ thanks ...same error
[00:48] <Mark___> Thanks Eric I have tryed that but let me try again in case I overlooked something
[00:49] <EriC^> aaas: you're welcome
[00:49] <aaas> EriC^ but same error...any other suggestions
[00:50] <Mark___> It says I am already on the latest version
[00:50] <EriC^> type uname -r
[00:51] <Mark___> 3.16.0-30-generic
[00:51] <Mark___> Not sure what that means :D
[00:51] <EriC^> aaas: type ls -l /file and paste here
[00:51] <daftykins> that's your kernel version.
[00:51] <EriC^> Mark___: ok, type apt-cache policy linux-headers-generic | grep Installed
[00:51] <aaas> -r--rw-r-- 2 user user 4076 May  9 17:10 efe01d0742c4f9c5215e91bd5b63344f853f87
[00:52] <zardain> hey guys
[00:52] <Mark___> Im not going to be able to paste in here cause of the clipboard isn't sharing properly
[00:52] <daftykins> lo
[00:52] <EriC^> Mark___: ok, just tell us the version
[00:52] <EriC^> wait what
[00:52] <EriC^> Mark___: oh nevermind
[00:53] <zardain> is there any way to dl torrents from terminal?
[00:53] <Mark___> 3.13.0.52.59
[00:54] <daftykins> zardain: why? headless server?
[00:54] <EriC^> Mark___: type sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.16.0-30-generic
[00:55] <Mark___> Cool sounds awesome let me try :)
[00:55] <grend> in one ubuntu there is hidden god
[00:55] <SchrodingersScat> !info rtorrent | zardain
[00:56] <zardain> thank you guys I will try it
[00:56] <Mark___> ahhh it still says its already on the newest version
[00:57] <EriC^> Mark___: try sudo apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
[00:58] <Mark___> Also already at the newest version
[00:58] <EriC^> did you try rebooting?
[00:59] <Mark___> Let me try again... Have been rebooting a lot :)
[00:59] <ubuntuser13> how to create a custom repository from a linux repositories?
[01:01] <Mark___> same thing :'( the headers for the current running kernal were not found
[01:02] <nith1210> ubuntuser13: You're probably looking for apt-mirror, apt-cacher or mini-dinstall depending on what you want.
[01:03] <Mark___> Is there no where that I can get a Ubuntu VDI with guest additions already installed?
[01:04] <ubuntuser13> nith1210: Actually, i want a custom repository based on my native language and want to create this from puppy tahr repository.
[01:05] <EriC^^> Mark___: are the headers in /usr/src?
[01:07] <Mark___> EriC^^: Yea they are the linux headers and the virtualbox headers
[01:07] <grend> daftykins: i have booted from live cd, before that I run check hd option and nothing is there :)
[01:07] <EriC^^> for the 3.16 kernel?
[01:07] <EriC^^> 3.16.0-30
[01:08] <nith1210> ubuntuser13: I recommend mini-dinstall then. Puppy Linux is not an officially supported flavor so this isn't really the right place to find help.
[01:09] <EriC^^> Mark___: ^^
[01:09] <grend> folks how can I check state of hd? like fix bad sectors if any? as when I boot from hd it says cant find init
[01:09] <grend> and so on :D
[01:10] <ubuntuser13> nith1210: ok i understood. is there any way to create a custom menu in software center. by which on can filterate search according to one's choice or add packages.
[01:10] <Mark___> EriC^^: Im at a loss ;)
[01:11] <EriC^^> Mark___: type ls -ld /usr/src/*3.16.0-30*
[01:11] <nith1210> ubuntuser13: sorry, I don't know. I don't use the software center.
[01:12] <ubuntuser13> nith1210: ok, anyways thanks for help.
[01:13] <Mark___> EriC^^: it comes up with 2 linux headers the plain on and the generic one
[01:14] <EriC^^> ok, that's odd
[01:14] <EriC^^> Mark___: maybe try reinstalling? type sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-headers-3.16.0-30-generic
[01:17] <Mark___> EriC^^: Should I try install Guest Additions again ?
[01:17] <EriC^^> yeah
[01:18] <daftykins> grend: sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[01:19] <adsjlkdk> whats the terminal command that shows whats taking up ram
[01:19] <EriC^> ps aux ?
[01:20] <Mark___> EriC^: Same Thing
[01:20] <EriC^> Mark___: are you running 14.10?
[01:20] <adsjlkdk> EriC^: no it was top i think
[01:20] <adsjlkdk> yes its top
[01:20] <Mark___> Ubuntu hates me today :|
[01:21] <jellow> adsjlkdk: htop
[01:21] <adsjlkdk> no its top
[01:21] <EriC^> adsjlkdk: same thing
[01:22] <EriC^> Mark___: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:22] <django_> Hello all
[01:22] <django_> I used a flash drive to install ubuntu on my pc
[01:22] <django_> and i wanna use that flash drive again..how can i reset it to not be used as a way for installing ubuntu
[01:22] <Bhaal> Anyone know when a deb package of Qt 5.5 might be available?  I'm stuck in 15.04 with the Qt xinerama bug
[01:22] <EriC^> django_: repartition and make a filesystem
[01:23] <django_> EriC^, you the man ty!
[01:24] <nith1210> Bhaal: If you're willing to take a risk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting
[01:24] <explodes>   why does my terminal tweak out sometimes
[01:24] <EriC^> django_: np
[01:25] <Bhaal> nith1210: I am! :)
[01:25] <EriC^> explodes: what do you mean?
[01:25] <jellow> explodes: are you greping binaries? sometimes that can cause terminal to go funny. If that is what you mean.
[01:25] <nith1210> explodes: random flickering occurs with some nvidia cards (like mine) as well.
[01:25] <explodes> sometimes windowed applications do it too
[01:25] <Bhaal> nith1210: Thank you, I've been searching and couldn't find any debs, much appreciated!
[01:26] <nith1210> Bhaal: np, best of luck. Don't forget to report any bugs you find.
[01:26] <explodes> nith1210: yea i have nvidia, flickering is per-window, right?
[01:26] <adsjlkdk> what torrent client do you guys use
[01:26] <_cpo__> hi
[01:26] <explodes> adsjlkdk: transmission
[01:26] <explodes> has gui, web
[01:26] <django_> EriC^, which file system: fat32, ntfs or exFAT?
[01:26] <_cpo__> i'm searching a free usenet server... for several years it was possible to talk about politics, philosophy and so on in usenet.:-)
[01:26] <_cpo__> thanks!
[01:27] <nith1210> explodes: Yup. It's annoying and there was a bug open... let me see if I can find it.
[01:27] <_cpo__> or is it dead?
[01:28] <EriC^> django_: fat32 if you want
[01:28] <explodes> _cpo__: usenet exists it's widely used for filesharing now
[01:28] <daftykins> grend: got it?
[01:29] <grend> yes
[01:30] <grend> going to rest and perhaps try soon
[01:30] <grend> ty
[01:30] <_cpo__> explodes: are there alternatives?
[01:30] <funyun> hi. how can i fix this error? Err http://ubuntu.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net utopic-backports/universe amd64 Packages 404  Not Found [IP?
[01:30] <funyun> can i replace that with something?
[01:31] <nith1210> explodes: Sorry, can't seem to find it. You can find talk about the bug and similar on launchpad.net. I think it had to do with redraws specifically and it's not compiz (same bug on KDE)
[01:31] <explodes> _cpo__: http://usenet.com/ they're usually about $10/mo
[01:31] <explodes> nith1210: cool. thanks man
[01:32] <explodes> nith1210: lol this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-346/+bug/1314367
[01:32] <nith1210> explodes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/888666
[01:33] <nith1210> explodes: found it. I've experience the same with gnome-shell, kde, and unity.
[01:33] <_cpo__> explodes: thanks!
[01:33] <explodes> werd
[01:33] <Bhaal> Gah, ppa.launchpad seems to be taking a snooze
[01:33] <daftykins> grend: reset? what... my commands are meant to give you a link for you to paste here
[01:34] <funyun> hi. how can i fix this error? Err http://ubuntu.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net utopic-backports/universe amd64 Packages 404  Not Found [IP?
[01:34] <nith1210> anyone know anything about dpkg-source and why it can't find a file to patch which pops and pushes fine with quilt?
[01:34] <ticamai> I'm having an issue with my machine. Fresh install, I install the nvidia drivers, reboot, and I'm left with a system that won't boot into graphical mode.
[01:35] <ticamai> Trying to launch lightdm manually gives me an error about there being no alternatives for x86_64-linux-gnu_gfxcore_cfg
[01:35] <tagwolf> which nvidia drivers? the restricted package one via the gui?
[01:35] <Mark___> EriC^: Thanks for the help! But its still not happening. I'm giong to try remote in. I can't work on this tiny screen any more.
[01:35] <ticamai> nvidia-current via apt-get
[01:35] <daftykins> funyun: contact OVH for correct mirrors, not an ubuntu problem i'm afraid.
[01:35] <funyun> daftykins: can't i use some ubuntu source?
[01:35] <tagwolf> what card do you have?
[01:35] <ticamai> GTX 750
[01:35] <daftykins> ticamai: which card, which ubuntu version and which driver version?
[01:35] <daftykins> 750 Ti?
[01:36] <ticamai> Just 750
[01:36] <ticamai> no Ti
[01:36] <tagwolf> follow this doc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Ubuntu_14.04_and_up
[01:36] <ticamai> 14.04
[01:36] <daftykins> funyun: not given it's likely a VPS, no
[01:36] <ticamai> hm. I have no idea how to copy that from my console window into links...
[01:36] <explodes> git status
[01:36] <daftykins> funyun: you pay them for it, so demand their support :)
[01:36] <ticamai> This is literally my only machine and it's not working
[01:36] <explodes> oehy
[01:36] <tagwolf> =/
[01:36] <tagwolf> sec..
[01:37] <tagwolf> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[01:37] <daftykins> ticamai: which nvidia driver version did you install?
[01:37] <tagwolf> sudo apt-get install [nvidia-version]
[01:37] <tagwolf> suggested is: nvidia-331-updates
[01:37] <ticamai> I used nvidia-current, which is nvidia-331 i believe
[01:37] <ticamai> oh, wait, last time i used 331 directly
[01:38] <tagwolf> make sure your kernel is updated and then reboot first
[01:38] <ticamai> This is a fresh install from disk
[01:38] <explodes> nvidia-349 is out
[01:38] <ticamai> updated as installed
[01:38] <explodes> if you use edgers...
[01:38] <tagwolf> do a full apt-get update then apt-get upgrade first
[01:38] <tagwolf> and update your kernel, then reboot, then do the nvidia install
[01:38] <tagwolf> if it fails after that pm me
[01:38] <ticamai> alright
[01:39] <tagwolf> good luck! no worries. I've had to do this hundreds of times before >.<
[01:39] <tagwolf> worst case. in links download directly from nvidia
[01:40] <tagwolf> it'll compile it from your kernel src, and that always worked for me
[01:40] <tagwolf> let me link you in case you lose this
[01:41] <tagwolf> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/340.32/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.32.run
[01:41] <Bhaal> Is it just me or is ppa.launchpad.net not responding?
[01:41] <Bhaal> (via apt-get)
[01:41] <tagwolf> that's the one you want if the repo version fails
[01:41] <Bhaal> Ahhhh it's back
[01:42] <OerHeks> tagwolf, that would be not wise, as you need to re-install with any new kernel :-(
[01:42] <OerHeks> not the ubuntu way, so to say
[01:42] <tagwolf> yea. but the repo version often has a lot of problems with newer cards
[01:43] <guest-i75iId> Help a newbie please
[01:43] <tagwolf> I should file a bug report. But I just assumed ubuntu was limited in which binary version they pushed
[01:43] <ticamai> I've had this same os version running with this same hardware perfectly fine before. Then I played around with Windows 10 for a bit, then it became unbootable when I tried to install virtualbox, so now I'm back to this
[01:44] <Ender_Wiggin> im having a hell of a time with samba and setting up a network path for my 2nd NTFS HDD on ubuntu 14.04. Anyone know about this issue?
[01:44] <tagwolf> pastebin yer smb config?
[01:44] <tagwolf> and df output
[01:44] <guest-i75iId> Installed ubuntu 14.04 lts with kubuntu GUI. I cannot log in. The username I set up with the password I set up does not work.
[01:45] <Ender_Wiggin> standby, gonna swtich IRC client to my ubuntu machine
[01:45] <OerHeks> samba and ntfs ..
[01:46] <Ender_Wiggin> OerHeks, ths is my hell. haha
[01:46] <Ender_Wiggin> been reading up on several posts, seems to be a common issue with 14.04
[01:46] <OerHeks> You cannot set permissions on ntfs, that would be your issue, i think you need to mount ntfs the right way for that.
[01:46] <daftykins> tagwolf: manual download borks for people on kernel updates, not usually a good move
[01:47] <Ender_Wiggin> brb setting up IRC on my ubuntu
[01:47] <tagwolf> I agree. It would mean needing to recompile binary on each kernel upgrade
[01:47] <tagwolf> but as he only has shell, cant copy/paste, and needs computer up asap, it's a failsafe to get him running for now
[01:48] <daftykins> as would be a package install (:
[01:48] <tagwolf> I personally prefer having the latest nvidia driver from them. But that's one of a select few things I'll manage myself
[01:50] <Ender_Wiggin> guest-i75iId pastebin.com/PLeAqdWu
[01:50] <tagwolf> daftykins, his first attempt at pkg stopped him from being able to launch lightdm. I gave him steps to try again after updating everything else os wise. and only if that fails to grab straight from nvidia.
[01:50] <Ender_Wiggin> guest-i75iId http://pastebin.com/PLeAqdWu
[01:50] <Ender_Wiggin> sorry
[01:50] <tagwolf> but if you can help him get the repo version working then all the power!
[01:51] <tagwolf> Ender_Wiggin: mount output too please!
[01:51] <Ender_Wiggin> the two values I've changed is "workgroup = MSHOME" from "WORKGROUP" and added the last 3 lines before ##### Networking #####
[01:51] <Ender_Wiggin> tagwolf, can ya tell me how to do that please?
[01:51] <Ender_Wiggin> <---- noob
[01:51] <tagwolf> Ender_Wiggin: this samba conf is default..
[01:51] <tagwolf> you have to add the share into it
[01:51] <daftykins> user seems to have disappeared ^_^
[01:52] <tagwolf> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-configuration
[01:52] <Ender_Wiggin> tagwolf i changed 1 value and added 3 lines before networking, starts with "what naming service"
[01:52] <tagwolf> you need to add a viable share. that doc goes over the steps. try that first!
[01:52] <guest-i75iId> Installed ubuntu 14.04 lts with kubuntu GUI. I cannot log in. The username I set up with the password I set up does not work
[01:52] <Ender_Wiggin> kk standby
[01:53] <tagwolf> the path variable will be the path to your ntfs disk mount
[01:54] <Ender_Wiggin> im assuming the workgroup variable isn't "EXAMPLE" and the security variable isn't "USER"? haha
[01:54] <Ender_Wiggin> user*
[01:57] <Ender_Wiggin> tagwolf, I do not have a string that says "security = " in my conf either it seems
[01:58] <excelsiora> hi
[01:59] <excelsiora> I'm back
[01:59] <excelsiora> is there a smaller font than Terminus 12x6?
[02:06] <Ender_Wiggin> tagwolf, on that article you sent me, when I do step 3, should my path match the path I used in step 2.2, or should I use /srv/samba/share for step 3?
[02:08] <stanford_drone> Our startup got funded! We're building a personal gaming flying robot. Does anyone know computer vision or Artificial Intelligence? Do you want to come to shenzhen, china from July to October, and work with us?
[02:10] <gallynero> Hi
[02:11] <OerHeks> stanford_drone, this is ubuntu support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for other stuff
[02:11] <stanford_drone> ok, thanks
[02:12] <gallynero> Sorry for my bad english, how to i can add a external node to ubuntu cloud?
[02:12] <gallynero> Or only accept local nodes?
[02:13] <Ender_Wiggin_> tagwolf, ping <3
[02:14] <Ender_Wiggin_> on that article you sent me, I set the path on step 2.2 to the directory of my NTFS HDD, should I repeat that path variable in step 3?
[02:15] <Ender_Wiggin_> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-configuration
[02:15] <Ender_Wiggin_> nvmd got it, gonna try
[02:16] <daftykins> ah you're gonna have some permissions fun sharing direct from NTFS
[02:16] <Ender_Wiggin_> daftykins is there any easier way around it for sharing to Win 8.1?
[02:17] <Ender_Wiggin_> (and OS X)
[02:17] <Ender_Wiggin_> I dont mind reformating, etc. its a new drive.
[02:17] <secnulldev> oh yah
[02:17] <secnulldev> my uncle molests me please help me escape
[02:17] <secnulldev> call 911
[02:18] <Ender_Wiggin_> I noticed my shares on my Ext4 drive work for Win 8.1
[02:18] <secnulldev> please help
[02:18] <secnulldev> this is his computer
[02:18] <daftykins> if it's permanently going to live under a Linux host, format it for EXT4
[02:18] <secnulldev> call 911
[02:18] <secnulldev> he shows men pictures of me on here
[02:18] <Ender_Wiggin_> will it still be sharable to Win 8.1/OS X?
[02:19] <secnulldev> on here
[02:19] <secnulldev> HELP
[02:19] <secnulldev> HELP
[02:19] <daftykins> it doesn't matter which OS it gets shared to, it's samba
[02:19] <explodes> is this a troll?
[02:19] <Ender_Wiggin_> ^
[02:19] <secnulldev> HELP PLEASE
[02:19] <explodes> when did he join
[02:19] <daftykins> explodes: i'll give you one guess.
[02:19] <explodes> daftykins: maybe?
[02:19] <daftykins> just ignore it.
[02:19] <Ender_Wiggin_> daftykins, should I reset my samba conf to default then?
[02:19] <secnulldev> before he gets back
[02:20] <daftykins> depends what you've done so far.
[02:20] <secnulldev> call 911
[02:20] <Ender_Wiggin_> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html#samba-fileserver-configuration
[02:20] <Ender_Wiggin_> all that stuff, up to step 3, got leaking mem error
[02:20] <secnulldev> me makes me put his pee pee in my mouth
[02:20] <secnulldev> and it tastes bad
[02:20] <secnulldev> help
[02:20] <secnulldev> call 911
[02:21] <secnulldev> none of you care???
[02:21] <OerHeks> secnulldev, we don't call 911.
[02:21] <secnulldev> call police
[02:21] <secnulldev> please
[02:21] <secnulldev> please
[02:22] <secnulldev> he puts his pee pee inside me
[02:22] <secnulldev> in my butthole
[02:22] <compdoc> I called 911 - they are on the way
[02:22] <secnulldev> it hurts!
[02:23] <secnulldev> ouch
[02:23] <secnulldev> OUCH
[02:23] <secnulldev> he shoves it in hard
[02:23] <secnulldev> really really hard
[02:23] <secnulldev> ouch
[02:23] <secnulldev> ouch
[02:23] <secnulldev> help
[02:23] <secnulldev> CALL 911
[02:23] <secnulldev> CALL 911
[02:23] <secnulldev> CALL 911
[02:23] <explodes> Why no mute
[02:23] <zyklon_> helo
[02:24] <secnulldev> CALL 911
[02:24] <daftykins> !ops
[02:24] <secnulldev> CALL 911
[02:24] <Ender_Wiggin_> daftykins, whats the best way to go about reformatting the drive to EXT4?
[02:24] <daftykins> run gparted
[02:24] <ObrienDave> [20:24:03] * [secnulldev] (~cisconet@cpe-174-97-129-97.nc.res.rr.com): cisconet
[02:24] <ObrienDave> [20:24:03] * [secnulldev] #ubuntu
[02:24] <ObrienDave> [20:24:03] * [secnulldev] barjavel.freenode.net :Paris, FR
[02:24] <ObrienDave> [20:24:03] * [secnulldev] idle 00:00:00, signon: Sat May  9 20:17:20
[02:30] <excelsiora> hi
[02:31] <Ender_Wiggin_> daftykins, would "disks" work just as well as gparted? kinda got lost in that menu haha
[02:31] <Ender_Wiggin_> <-noob =/
[02:31] <daftykins> use whatever works for you
[02:31] <Ender_Wiggin_> kk
[02:33] <Ender_Wiggin_> The drive is 2TB, should I do MBR/DOS or GPT?
[02:33] <daftykins> doesn't matter
[02:33] <excelsiora> so, any good examples of dotfiles out there?
[02:34] <daftykins> what do you mean?
[02:34] <daftykins> there are plenty of files that begin with . in your ~
[02:35] <excelsiora> I'm trying to set up my customizations so I can easily pick up on a fresh Ubuntu install where I leave off, and was wondering about best practices in that regards, so if there's a good example to learn from... please point it out to me!
[02:36] <daftykins> can't say i have a clue what you're speaking of :)
[02:36] <Ender_Wiggin_> daftykins brb power cycling everything.
[02:36] <daftykins> yeah no need to update me all evening, Ender_Wiggin_
[02:36] <excelsiora> AndyDavis: you there?
[02:36] <excelsiora> want to see what I did?
[02:36] <daftykins> you know, often people spend more time setting up a clean install routine than it takes to actually just do it normally.
[02:37] <excelsiora> yeah, but then I have something I've put together thoughtfully.
[02:37] <ObrienDave> there's a clean install routine? never knew ;P
[02:37] <excelsiora> why does the default pyclean not work recursively?
[02:37] <excelsiora> I had to write my own
[02:38] <AndyDavis> excelsiora, excuse me oh double untundras
[02:38] <excelsiora> ?
[02:38] <excelsiora> ok
[02:39] <excelsiora> AndyDavis: I stuck this in my .bashrc: echo -e "\\e]PC6495ed"
[02:41] <AndyDavis> why two ecp char ?
[02:41] <excelsiora> it works
[02:41] <AndyDavis> but why two esp char
[02:42] <AndyDavis> but that is awesome that it is working !
[02:42] <AndyDavis> Super funkadora awesome
[02:43] <excelsiora> I'll see if I can find my reference
[02:43] <AndyDavis> woops /me sucks used a word that had odra in it
[02:43]  * AndyDavis ducks 
[02:44] <ObrienDave> okaaaaaaaaaay
[02:46] <jack3> Hello.  Just created .nanorc  in home/myname   and put a couple commands in it.   Logged off shell, then back on.  There is no difference.. the commands do not seem to be taking effect.   What't the trick to getting .nanorc to work?
[02:48] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, im getting "the disk drive /DIRECTORY/ is not ready or not present after mounting it and rebooting.
[02:48] <Ender_Wiggin> when i choose skip, it let's me mount it though, but upon restart i get the same error
[02:49] <Ender_Wiggin> its on the Ubuntu splash screen
[02:49] <Ender_Wiggin> "/DIRECTORY/" is just a placeholder for actual directory
[02:51] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: did you attempt to edit /etc/fstab with the now ext4 formatted drive?
[02:51] <Guest64249> exit
[02:51] <excelsiora> AndyDavis: anyways, just google my solution, look for the linux blog, probably second result
[02:52] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, don't think so. Just created the partition and mounted.
[02:52] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/fstab
[02:53] <Ender_Wiggin> kk
[02:55] <Ender_Wiggin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11054442/
[02:56] <Ender_Wiggin> ah shit something in there is NTFS-3g
[02:56] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: see line 10? that's what your disk *was*, correct?
[02:56] <daftykins> don't swear :>
[02:56] <Ender_Wiggin> sorry
[02:56] <Ender_Wiggin> correct, the disk was NTFS
[02:56] <daftykins> type "sudo nano /etc/fstab" in the terminal, put a # in front of line 10, then press ctrl+O then ctrl+X to save and exit
[02:57] <daftykins> although now you need a new line to permanently mount the disk now that it's ext4
[02:57] <daftykins> in fact avoid pressing ctrl+X, and go to the end of the file to add a new line
[02:58] <daftykins> i'll need another: "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[02:59] <Ender_Wiggin> ok did what ya first said, added # saved and exited
[02:59] <apollondma> hello :)
[02:59] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: ok run the above
[03:00] <apollondma> does anyone here have exp with submitting Ubuntu Software packages to the developer page?
[03:00] <daftykins> not me
[03:00] <apollondma> uploading?
[03:00] <apollondma> dang :(
[03:01] <apollondma> shell coders?
[03:01] <daftykins> you would find them in #bash
[03:01] <apollondma> lol cool tahnk you daftykins :D
[03:02] <apollondma> exit
[03:03] <Ender_Wiggin> seems to be showing EXT4 now
[03:03] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: i take it it's the 2TB?
[03:03] <Ender_Wiggin> yeah the WD20EZRX
[03:04] <Ender_Wiggin> (first one)
[03:04] <daftykins> alright so you can use the same mount point as last time, so open up "sudo nano /etc/fstab" again
[03:04] <daftykins> in a second terminal, run "sudo blkid" and copy the UUID for /dev/sda1
[03:04] <Ender_Wiggin> k
[03:05] <Soapubuntukills> hi
[03:05] <Ender_Wiggin> k
[03:05] <Soapubuntukills> Im new to ubuntu and just installed xchat
[03:05] <daftykins> so essentially you want "UUID=blah   /media/atreyu/backup_001   ext4   defaults,user    0   2"
[03:05] <Soapubuntukills> how do i open the configuration window
[03:05] <daftykins> Soapubuntukills: ok. well this channel is the support channel only, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:06] <daftykins> to configure what?
[03:06] <Soapubuntukills> to join a another network
[03:07] <daftykins> Soapubuntukills: that's more a 'how to use xchat' kind of question
[03:07] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins how do I replace the UUID in /fstab?
[03:08] <Ender_Wiggin> only letting me copy and paste on new line
[03:08] <daftykins> copy it by selecting, then right mouse click to paste in
[03:08] <Soapubuntukills> nvm guys
[03:08] <Soapubuntukills> got it
[03:08] <Soapubuntukills> ok, how do i open a terminal window with root in ubuntu
[03:08] <Ender_Wiggin> ok got it
[03:09] <Ender_Wiggin> saved and exited
[03:10] <Bhaal> I cannot get steam running, cannot get an i386 libgcrypt11 package to install and steam needs it :/
[03:10] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, reboot and test it?
[03:11] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: nah no need, first up show me a "mount | pastebinit"
[03:12] <ptrz> does anyone know how to turn off a ThinkPad's wifi indicator light? I can't find anything online, and my friend's just incessantly blinks, which is super distracting.
[03:12] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: do "sudo umount /dev/sda1" then "sudo mount -a"
[03:13] <Ender_Wiggin> done
[03:15] <apollondma> what rooms are available for linux devs? Im new lol
[03:15] <apollondma> ..is anyone online?
[03:15] <Ender_Wiggin> o7
[03:16] <apollondma> o7?
[03:16] <Ender_Wiggin> salute haha
[03:16] <apollondma> ah lol salute ;)
[03:16] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: is it mounted now?
[03:16] <Ender_Wiggin> negative
[03:17] <apollondma> who is admininstrating this room?
[03:17] <daftykins> the ops are.
[03:17] <apollondma> ops?
[03:17] <Ender_Wiggin> operators
[03:18] <apollondma> ah duh lol are they canonical?
[03:18] <Ender_Wiggin> they'll only log in to OP when needed.
[03:18] <Ender_Wiggin> Least, most rooms work that way on freenode
[03:18] <daftykins> apollondma: no, volunteers
[03:18] <daftykins> one or two might be staff but it's not a given
[03:19] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, what should I do next?
[03:19] <daftykins> well, did it error on the above command(s)?
[03:19] <Ender_Wiggin> naw
[03:20] <daftykins> run "mount" on its' own and see if you see /dev/sda1 listed as mounted
[03:21] <apollondma> ok cool cool thankyou guys ;)
[03:21] <ircshill> hello. I was hoping someone could help me out with something very basic. I shouldn't need to ask for help but here I am.
[03:21] <Ender_Wiggin> dont get sda1 listed, should I mount via Disks?
[03:21] <ircshill> I just want to set up an IRC server I can easily use..
[03:21] <ircshill> *IRC client
[03:22] <apollondma> what issues are you having?
[03:22] <daftykins> this isn't really IRC client support.
[03:22] <apollondma> yeah this is for Ubuntu OS support
[03:23] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, im gonna attempt mount via Disks and reboot to see if I get the same error
[03:23] <ircshill> I am just looking for general advice on what irc client to get. I tried getting one and it was too technical
[03:23] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins ran it on Disks and Mount now shows /sda1
[03:24] <daftykins> ircshill: you best tell us which so we don't just repeat then
[03:24] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: yeah that doesn't achieve anything though, it needs to work from the /etc/fstab entry
[03:24] <apollondma> does anyone know if the packages for Ubuntu Software center can be custom built as far as directory paths? like when the debian file is compressed and built, can the directories be whereever we like?
[03:24] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: maybe "pastebinit /etc/fstab" again so i can check it, or sure reboot to confirm
[03:24] <ircshill> hm.. trying to find out which
[03:25] <apollondma> is there a debian room?
[03:25] <daftykins> are you serious?
[03:25] <daftykins> it's called #ubuntu
[03:26] <apollondma> debian isn't only on ubuntu tho, and its select to its own build
[03:26] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: yeah you didn't add that line at all...
[03:26] <Ender_Wiggin> lol sorry
[03:26] <daftykins> apollondma: your sentence doesn't make sense, ubuntu is based on debian.
[03:26] <Ender_Wiggin> i changed 10 UUID
[03:26] <apollondma> lol dont apologize, this is why these rooms are here, for questions ;)
[03:27] <Ender_Wiggin> is there another line I need to add?
[03:27] <apollondma> it is, but debian is a different item, Ubuntu is built on debian architecture, but its not the some thing in one item.
[03:28] <jdqx> anyone else mining ethereum?
[03:28] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: what i said earlier: so essentially you want "UUID=blah   /media/atreyu/backup_001   ext4   defaults,user    0   2"
[03:28] <daftykins> add that *new* line to the bottom
[03:28] <Ender_Wiggin> got it
[03:28] <apollondma> lol this is a support room jdqx..
[03:30] <apollondma> hey, if anyone here is a shell wiz.. you should visit linuxghost.zohosites.com because you can submit your scripts to be added to the repo by default :D its a good way to get yur code into the eyes of people you'd like to post as clientel..
[03:32] <daftykins> not really a place to advertise
[03:32] <daftykins> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic for... off topic :)
[03:33] <whallz> how do i change drivers from propietary nvidia to nouveau from the terminal?
[03:33] <whallz> i cannot start x
[03:33] <daftykins> sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[03:33] <apollondma> are you referring to proccessing drivers?
[03:34] <daftykins> i think you just made that up
[03:34] <apollondma> lol i didnt see daftykins post, hes got the right answer :P
[03:35] <apollondma> yeah using purge sounds like it would be the best thing to do
[03:35] <whallz> ty
[03:35] <daftykins> glad we're in agreement
[03:35] <apollondma> lol :P
[03:35] <Ender_Wiggin> disk is alo showing as mounted
[03:35] <apollondma> you seem like you know yur stuff :P
[03:35] <dreamon> I want to use ubuntu printer server on local netwerk to use without password asking.. what do I have to chance in standard settings of cupsd.conf
[03:35] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: err you need to remove the hash and are you sure that's the current UUID?
[03:36] <Ender_Wiggin> urgggh dang it haha
[03:36] <daftykins> sudo blkid to check
[03:36] <whallz> and how do i install fresh nvidia drivers after purge?
[03:36] <whallz> nvidia-current is the good one? :)
[03:36] <daftykins> whallz: what card first
[03:36] <daftykins> no
[03:36] <whallz> geForce 820M
[03:37] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins remove # on line 14?
[03:37] <daftykins> oh dear, so mobile
[03:37] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: yup
[03:37] <ircshill> general question here - is adding the PPA from hexchat considered safe?
[03:37] <daftykins> isn't hexchat in the default repos?
[03:37] <whallz> daftykins: its an acer laptop
[03:37] <daftykins> !info hexchat
[03:37] <daftykins> whallz: which ubuntu?
[03:37] <whallz> 14.04
[03:38] <daftykins> hrmm wonder if 331 supports your 820M... here's to finding out
[03:38] <whallz> linux 3.16.0-37-generic
[03:38] <daftykins> whallz: sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime
[03:38] <ircshill> i'll install it from the software centre, NP
[03:38] <whallz> daftykins: ok thanks
[03:38] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, i rebooted and didnt get the error. disk is mounted, should i still remove the #?
[03:39] <daftykins> yes.
[03:39] <Ender_Wiggin> kk
[03:40] <Ender_Wiggin> k gonna reboot and double check
[03:42] <Ender_Wiggin> ok that problem is resolved, gonna test a network path for the new formated drive
[03:43] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, Im still not able to connect to the drive from Win 8.1
[03:43] <daftykins> what is your process?
[03:43] <daftykins> as in what are you doing
[03:44] <Ender_Wiggin> going to Network>Server>Backup_001 (the Ext4 drive) and get that error
[03:44] <daftykins> it's kinda pointless PMing me all these links XD nothing is private to you
[03:44] <Ender_Wiggin> sorrry haha
[03:45] <daftykins> what does the share look like in smb.conf?
[03:46] <Ender_Wiggin> whats the command to access that again? /etc/samba/smb.conf?
[03:46] <daftykins> pastebinit it
[03:47] <Ender_Wiggin> ah i think i uninstalled samba... lol
[03:47] <whallz> daftykins: nvidia-331 did the trick, i'm downloading openarena to test it
[03:47] <Ender_Wiggin> nvmd i do have it
[03:47] <whallz> is there a good benchmarking tool for testing hardware and driver performance?
[03:48] <daftykins> whallz: running nvidia-settings to look at the options should be good too
[03:48] <whallz> daftykins: ok
[03:50] <Ender_Wiggin> should I put nano in for the pastebinit?
[03:50] <Ender_Wiggin> or just "sudo /etc/samba/smb.conf | pastebinit"?
[03:51] <bobweaver> cat the name of then file
[03:51] <daftykins> nope
[03:51] <daftykins> all wrong :P
[03:51] <bobweaver> then the name of the html p;lace
[03:51] <daftykins> "pastebinit /file"
[03:51] <bobweaver> failed wrote it
[03:51] <phunyguy> bobweaver: can we help you with something?
[03:51] <bobweaver> ./pastebinit <name/of/and/path > |pastebinit
[03:52] <Ender_Wiggin> standby
[03:52] <daftykins> bobweaver: no there is no ./ either
[03:52] <bobweaver> paperbags.... maybe you have it set in you echo $PATH
[03:53] <daftykins> phunyguy: i think this guy needs ejecting
[03:53] <daftykins> bad advice++
[03:53] <Ender_Wiggin> http://pastebin.com/7hV3xHe7
[03:53] <phunyguy> bobweaver: last warning. Help please, or stay silent.
[03:54] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: err so i'm not seeing a share definition, how did you set up the share?
[03:55] <Ender_Wiggin> under files GUI, right click on the drive>properties>local network share>"share this folder" share name: "backup_001" "allow others to create and delete files in this folder" "guest access"
[03:55] <daftykins> ah yeah i wouldn't do that
[03:55] <Ender_Wiggin> =P
[03:56] <daftykins> you're going to want to go back through that and check it, too
[03:56] <Ender_Wiggin> want me to uncheck them?
[03:56] <daftykins> well i can only offer a guaranteed way that i do it
[03:56] <Ender_Wiggin> i will take that way then!
[03:56] <Ender_Wiggin> =P
[03:57] <bobweaver> or so we say !
[03:57] <Ender_Wiggin> ill do whatever ya say daftykins, whats the best way?
[03:58] <daftykins> sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.orig
[03:58] <daftykins> that keeps a backup of the file before edits
[03:58] <daftykins> sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:00] <daftykins> sec getting some example config
[04:00] <daftykins> you'll be adding this to the very end of the file
[04:02] <Ender_Wiggin> is it ok to use geddit?
[04:02] <Ender_Wiggin> gedit*
[04:02] <daftykins> it is if you know how to run GUI apps as root correctly
[04:02] <daftykins> i.e. with gksu/gksudo
[04:03] <Ender_Wiggin> yeah gksu gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:03] <daftykins> nano is a lovely text editor, keeps things simple
[04:03] <N3X15> I still can't tell the difference between pico and nano.
[04:03] <Ender_Wiggin> k ill stick to nano then
[04:04] <aeon-ltd> for real there's a text editor called pico?
[04:04] <N3X15> Yeah, ran into it in some installation guide
[04:04] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11055239/
[04:04] <aeon-ltd> nano pico, now we need micro
[04:05] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, ad a space after last line in smb.conf?
[04:05] <daftykins> mmhmm
[04:05] <Ender_Wiggin> save and exit?
[04:06] <daftykins> mmhmm
[04:06] <Ender_Wiggin> or title it different?
[04:06] <Ender_Wiggin> kk
[04:06] <daftykins> now run "testparm" to confirm it's ok
[04:06] <daftykins> obviously you needed to change a lot of those to suit your setup
[04:06] <Ender_Wiggin> oh... lol
[04:07] <Ender_Wiggin> derp
[04:07]  * daftykins facepalms
[04:07] <daftykins> :P
[04:07] <Ender_Wiggin> got it
[04:07] <Ender_Wiggin> can comment be anything?
[04:08] <daftykins> yeo
[04:08] <daftykins> p
[04:08] <daftykins> Here be dragons!
[04:08] <Ender_Wiggin> lol k got it
[04:09] <Ender_Wiggin> ya need pastebin of testparm?
[04:09] <daftykins> nah just check it complains of no errors
[04:09] <Ender_Wiggin> loaded services OK
[04:09] <Ender_Wiggin> ROLE_STANDALONE
[04:09] <daftykins> give it a restart
[04:09] <Ender_Wiggin> oh lol... didnt hit inter
[04:09] <Ender_Wiggin> enter*
[04:10] <Ender_Wiggin> kk
[04:10] <Ender_Wiggin> gonna test it in a sec, one last issue, I SWEAR!
[04:10] <Ender_Wiggin> I have to reboot twice everytime I boot up.
[04:10] <daftykins> why o0
[04:11] <Ender_Wiggin> I get to the purple screen after BIOS and i lose monitor connection, when I reboot I get the GNU GRUB menu to choose Ubuntu/advanced options for ubuntu/etc
[04:11] <Ender_Wiggin> could be a driver issue?
[04:12] <Ender_Wiggin> i ran an update after clean install of 14.04, not sure if it updated my NVIDIA drivers or not
[04:12] <daftykins> doesn't it just sort itself out?
[04:12] <daftykins> tbh i'm a fan of one task at a time
[04:12] <Ender_Wiggin> yeah after I reboot 2x haha... just doesn't seem natural? I guess?
[04:12] <Ender_Wiggin> haha
[04:12] <Ender_Wiggin> kk
[04:13] <Ender_Wiggin> hmm i cant even access the computer at all on my Win 8.1.. should I reboot that machine too?
[04:14] <daftykins> nah
[04:14] <daftykins> instead of using the browsing, directly enter \\IP of ubuntu machine\sharename
[04:15] <tax_> can someone point me into the right direction for some help with chrubuntu?
[04:15] <reisio> \\\, ew
[04:15] <daftykins> triple? wat
[04:15] <reisio> \\, ew
[04:15] <reisio> tax_: /msg alis list *chr*bunt*
[04:15] <daftykins> oh shoo!
[04:15] <reisio> shoo-in
[04:15] <daftykins> :D
[04:16] <Ender_Wiggin> same issue
[04:17] <daftykins> as in the windows error message pic?
[04:17] <daftykins> is the windows 8 machine in a homegroup?
[04:17] <Ender_Wiggin> yeah
[04:17] <Ender_Wiggin> standby
[04:18] <Ender_Wiggin> yep
[04:18] <daftykins> i'd remove it from that
[04:18] <Ender_Wiggin> k
[04:18] <daftykins> i personally use full passworded access on shares though, no guest usage, no homegroups
[04:19] <daftykins> windows file sharing is a fickle beast
[04:19] <Ender_Wiggin> i dont mind doing password access
[04:19] <daftykins> well, see what happens after this
[04:19] <Ender_Wiggin> left home group, got same error
[04:20] <daftykins> reboot the win boxen this time
[04:20] <Ender_Wiggin> should i leave the homegroup on my other Win box too?
[04:21] <daftykins> eventually perhaps but best to just focus on getting one working
[04:21] <angelle> guys I would have a question
[04:21] <Ender_Wiggin> k brb
[04:21] <angelle> trying to install application and it says
[04:21] <angelle> installation ended prematurely......
[04:21] <angelle> any advice?
[04:22] <SCRIPTHALP> Anyone available to help with an init script?
[04:22] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins back
[04:22] <daftykins> you might be better off in #bash
[04:22] <Ender_Wiggin> me?
[04:22] <SCRIPTHALP> hmm alright I'll go check it out
[04:22] <SCRIPTHALP> Thanks
[04:23] <Ender_Wiggin> nvmd
[04:23] <Adam___> hi, i want to know which is the best way to encrypt my whole disk including ubuntu installation? does ubuntu's default encryption encrypt everything when i select it in installation? or it just encrypt ubuntu installation folders only? (sorry i'm new to ubuntu)
[04:23] <Ender_Wiggin> curses!
[04:23] <Ender_Wiggin> haha
[04:23] <Ender_Wiggin> i can access the computer over the network, but not the new share on the 2nd harddrive
[04:23] <Ender_Wiggin> haha
[04:23] <Ender_Wiggin> shares on my 1st HDD are accessable
[04:24] <zerowaitstate> Adam___ there is an option for full disk encryption
[04:24] <Adam___> i want the best encryption
[04:24] <reisio> Adam___: it asks you which you want
[04:24] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, i also cannot access the Win8 box from Ububtu, if that helps.
[04:25] <reisio> encryption is a sliding scale, and "the best" is arguably pointless
[04:25] <Ender_Wiggin> well not specific shares
[04:25] <SCRIPTHALP> yeah you should probably research kinds of encryption for the one you think is best
[04:25] <SCRIPTHALP> #my2ceents
[04:25] <reisio> when you encrypt data, you are not actually attempting to protect your data from professionals
[04:25] <angelle> reisio I'm still waiting for an answer on Windows
[04:25] <zerowaitstate> full disk encryption puts the whole system in a LUKS volume
[04:25] <reisio> because professionals are not stopped by encryption at all
[04:25] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: hrmm edit the config to read guest = no, then run "sudo smbpasswd -a username" (where username = your ubuntu username) then create a password for it
[04:25] <reisio> you're just trying to protect your data from amateurs/casual eyes with encryption
[04:25] <zerowaitstate> reisio depends
[04:25] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: ideally you make the username identical on your Windows and ubuntu box, then you make the above password the same as your Windows one
[04:25] <angelle> reisio!
[04:25] <reisio> angelle: <looks>
[04:25] <reisio> zerowaitstate: nope
[04:25] <angelle> what about me?
[04:26] <reisio> angelle: just relax, as you can see I'm talking in many channels :p
[04:26] <angelle> I'm not important at all isn't it?
[04:26] <daftykins> angelle: oh shush
[04:26] <Adam___> zerowaitstate: reisio: then what is the reason for encryption being an option ?
[04:26] <Ender_Wiggin> ok, also i just attempted to connect to the same Win8 shares on my other Win7, had to input creditentials and it worked
[04:26] <Ender_Wiggin> (win 7 is different box too)
[04:27] <zerowaitstate> Adam___ disk encryption protects data at rest.  I.e., when comp is powered off.  it doesn't protect against attack on a live system
[04:28] <reisio> Adam___: lot of amateurs out there
[04:28] <raspberrypifan> i have an ubunt live cd and two hfs plus disks which i want ot mount with RW but no matter what i cant
[04:28] <raspberrypifan> they keep mounting as reado nly
[04:28] <Adam___> zerowaitstate: yes thats what i want, i can protect myself from online attacks by firewalls, but came here to talk about best encryption in your views?
[04:28] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins, for the guest = no, that's in the line you asked me to add right? it's already at "guest OK = no"
[04:28] <zerowaitstate> professionals with phys access will attempt to image RAM before allowing power off
[04:28] <reisio> Adam___: and they're defeated by the least encryption, so the most is fairly irrelevant
[04:29] <Adam___> zerowaitstate: reisio: i just want a verdict :)
[04:29] <reisio> Adam___: about what?
[04:29] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: despite my example looking like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11055239/
[04:29] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: listen, what timezone are you in?
[04:29] <Ender_Wiggin> PST
[04:30] <SCRIPTHALP> HaI.
[04:30] <Ender_Wiggin> hold on....
[04:30] <Adam___> reisio: about which way is the most safest way and harder to break? i want full disk encryption
[04:30] <zerowaitstate> full disk encryption is useful in case of theft of the comp.  otherwise it is no different than running without
[04:30] <Ender_Wiggin> ROFL yeah was looking at the [print] variables haha
[04:30] <Ender_Wiggin> nvmd lol
[04:30] <Ender_Wiggin> standby
[04:30] <zerowaitstate> full disk in LUKS typically uses AES
[04:31] <Adam___> zerowaitstate: reisio: i heard aes 256 is the best encryption available at the moment?
[04:32] <daftykins> personally i think the world are welcome to pics of my cat.
[04:32] <zerowaitstate> AES is good.  the jury is still out on whether it is best.  ask #crypto
[04:32] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins ok done
[04:32] <raspberrypifan> help plz
[04:32] <Ender_Wiggin> set up password
[04:32] <daftykins> raspberrypifan: question plz
[04:32] <reisio> Adam___: nope
[04:32] <raspberrypifan> i have an ubunt live cd and two hfs plus disks which i want ot mount with RW but no matter what i cant
[04:32] <reisio> Adam___: and you're not listening, you don't need the best
[04:33] <Ender_Wiggin> we're so close daftykins, I can taste it!
[04:33] <reisio> Adam___: it'll slow down your OS for no benefit
[04:33] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: ok what happens if you open an explorer window and edit the address bar to read \\IP of server\share ?
[04:33] <daftykins> maybe try it across more than the one PC just to see what it gets up to
[04:33] <Adam___> reisio: then what do you suggest?
[04:34] <reisio> Adam___: whatever Ubuntu uses by default for full disk will suffice
[04:34] <Ender_Wiggin> YOU ARE A GOD AMONGST MEN
[04:34] <reisio> realistically, using encfs or ecryptfs on your home dir will suffice
[04:34] <raspberrypifan> how do i get it to r/w the hfs plus drive
[04:34] <Ender_Wiggin> all hail our new overloard daftykins!!!!!
[04:34] <daftykins> \o/
[04:34] <Ender_Wiggin> THANKS!
[04:34] <daftykins> my first act is to make reisio wear a penguin suit 24/7
[04:35] <Ender_Wiggin> I seriously hope you get paid to do this for a living, you're too good not to be getting $$$ for this
[04:35] <reisio> the kind of people who _can_ get information from your /tmp/ or from swap or from your RAM _aren't stopped by encryption anyway_
[04:35] <reisio> daftykins: too late
[04:35] <Adam___> reisio: i want to encrypt my whole disk, and whole data, images, documents, and everything on disk
[04:35] <Tax89> Anyone able to answer some questions about installing churbuntu
[04:35] <reisio> Adam___: that's an option during install, IIRC
[04:35] <Tax89> or send me to the right channel?
[04:35] <reisio> Tax89: already did?
[04:35] <Ender_Wiggin> thanks so much man!
[04:35] <angelle> :(
[04:35] <Ender_Wiggin> <3333
[04:35] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: haha, thanks. well not paid for being in here, but i do do it in real life
[04:35] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: enjoy!
[04:35] <Adam___> reisio: which encryption does default ubuntu use?
[04:36] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: oh try creating a file because there might still be permissions fun to overcome
[04:36] <Ender_Wiggin> kk
[04:36] <reisio> Adam___: probably some aes with luks
[04:37] <zerowaitstate> my guess is AES-CBC or AES-GCM
[04:37] <Ender_Wiggin> read/write works in both directions
[04:37] <Ender_Wiggin> thanks!
[04:37] <Adam___> zerowaitstate: reisio: and how powerfull is that? i mean government can break it?
[04:38] <Ender_Wiggin> hmm
[04:38] <Ender_Wiggin> haha
[04:38] <Ender_Wiggin> any suggestions on how to allow me to access my Win8 shares from my Ubuntu?
[04:38] <Ender_Wiggin> I can see them like before, just dont have perms
[04:38] <raspberrypifan> RW hfs plus on live usb?
[04:39] <daftykins> raspberrypifan: can't be done.
[04:39] <daftykins> data will die.
[04:39] <raspberrypifan> what data?
[04:39] <daftykins> data on the HFS+ volume =|
[04:39] <reisio> Adam___: no, if the government or anyone else could break it simply, it wouldn't be the default
[04:39] <zerowaitstate> I was right.  it's AES-CBC
[04:39] <raspberrypifan> why? supposedly if you use hfsprogs it can be done
[04:39] <daftykins> raspberrypifan: no it's not supported and experimental
[04:40] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: err, go to the properties of the share and explicitly add your username to the permissions and give you full control
[04:40] <angelle> reisio you spend more time on Ubuntu than on Windows
[04:40] <raspberrypifan> well sadly ubuntu is the only OS that will read my broken os x drive but then i cant keep the info to another hfs plus drive
[04:40] <zerowaitstate> Adam___ if they could then Come would not be complaining
[04:40] <reisio> angelle: you don't answer my questions
[04:40] <zerowaitstate> Comey
[04:40] <raspberrypifan> does any distro have full hfs plus RW support
[04:40] <daftykins> raspberrypifan: no.
[04:41] <zerowaitstate> HFS blows
[04:41] <daftykins> raspberrypifan: you should take the data off and not use a mac drive anymore
[04:41] <reisio> raspberrypifan: http://www.sysresccd.org/ ?
[04:41] <Ender_Wiggin> under the permissions tab, I get "the permissions of "workstation(smb)" could not be determined.
[04:42] <Ender_Wiggin> no options to input username/pwd
[04:42] <daftykins> that's properties in windows 8, of the folder on the windows PC, yeah?
[04:42] <Adam___> zerowaitstate: reisio: ok please answer me this time, i'm going to install ubuntu 15.04 now, and if i select use whole disk when it ask to select disk and select encryption there, it will encrypt my whole disk? or just ubuntu installation folders?
[04:42] <raspberrypifan> well thats all i have avaiable,
[04:42] <Ender_Wiggin> the properties box is in Ubuntu of a Win8 share
[04:43] <raspberrypifan> reisio: but will the system rescue cd usb boot from a mac. somehow only ubuntu work
[04:43] <zerowaitstate> the whole root volume
[04:43] <Ender_Wiggin> The win7 shares worked fine, just had to input username/pw
[04:43] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: no you can't configure permissions and settings on a remote share that isn't working :D
[04:43] <Ender_Wiggin> well i mean i can see the shares lol
[04:43] <Ender_Wiggin> just cant open the directory
[04:43] <angelle> someone asked me something?
[04:43] <daftykins> doubt it
[04:43] <zerowaitstate> I can't speak to swap
[04:44] <daftykins> swapwhisperer
[04:44] <angelle> it shows green symbol that means someone asked me something
[04:44] <angelle> but to lazy to scroll up all the way to the top
[04:44] <Ender_Wiggin> in ubunbtu, it lists all the shares under that machine, just wont let me get into them
[04:44] <angelle> so whoever asked me anything
[04:44] <angelle> could you please repeat?
[04:44] <Ender_Wiggin> both properties of the machine itself and the shares say the same error
[04:45] <reisio> Adam___: IIRC it offers two options: one is full disk, the other is /home/ only
[04:45] <reisio> Adam___: I'm sure you can be trusted to choose the one of those two that you prefer
[04:45] <daftykins> Ender_Wiggin: eh i think i'm spent for tonight
[04:45] <Ender_Wiggin> haha ok thanks
[04:45] <daftykins> i'd probably confirm with the CLI utility 'smbclient'
[04:45] <daftykins> which may need installing
[04:46] <Guest13479> THERE'S WATER ON MY LAPTOP KEYBOARD I NEED HELP NOW TO AVOID ANYTHING
[04:46] <Adam___> zerowaitstate: reisio: when i installed ubuntu yesterday, in first installation it asked for full encryption, then when it asked me to give my username and password it also asked me to encrypt home folder, that confuses me, if first i did the full disk encryption then it shouldn't have asked me about encrypting home folder?
[04:47] <daftykins> Guest13479: and what makes this an ubuntu question? :)
[04:47] <Ender_Wiggin> k
[04:47] <Guest13479> JUST GIVE AN ANSWER YOU FUCKING ASPERGER CUCKBOY
[04:48] <reisio> Adam___: that does sound confusing
[04:48] <reisio> Guest13479: okay: 42
[04:48] <daftykins> i'll have you know i do not suffer from that social skill affliction
[04:48] <Guest13479> for installing ubuntu you do
[04:48] <zerowaitstate> Adam___: folder encryption is tied to user login.  full disk isnt
[04:48] <a7i3n> yikes
[04:48] <daftykins> beats being such a loser you troll on IRC :(
[04:49] <Johnny_Linux> ohluh
[04:49] <zerowaitstate> technically I guess it might be possible to run both, but I don't know why you would want to in most cases
[04:50] <CarlFK> Gimp has 3 windows: image, layers, toolbox.   none have "always on top" checked, but the layers & toolbox don't get out of thew ay when I click on another app, like Firefox (or pidgin, where I am chatting)
[04:51] <xangua> CarlFK: you can enable the single windows mode in the Windows menu
[04:53] <CarlFK> xangua: that helps, but not what I was looking for.  when I select window, it should come to the top.
[04:56] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins fixed it
[04:56] <daftykins> go team!
[04:56] <igkph> 。
[04:56] <Ender_Wiggin> daftykins my share from ubunbtu you helped me create is just called "sharename" anyway to change that?
[04:57] <Ender_Wiggin> Promise thats the last thing!
[04:57] <Ender_Wiggin> =3
[04:57] <xangua> go team venture!
[04:57] <daftykins> hahaha
[04:57] <daftykins> yeah you change [sharename] to something else
[04:57] <Ender_Wiggin> got it! thanks
[04:57] <daftykins> with no spaces
[04:57] <daftykins> xangua: adventure? 8D
[04:58] <Ender_Wiggin> ty ty
[04:58] <Ender_Wiggin> ill ask someone else later bout the double reboot issue
[05:00] <Ender_Wiggin> o7 thanks again! see ya
[05:00] <daftykins> \o
[05:00] <leiming> hi
[05:01] <daftykins> LO
[05:01] <daftykins> oops lo
[05:03] <mduffor> What is the best way to organize the launcher along the left side of the Ubuntu desktop?  Is there a good shelf extension?  As it is, with 43-ish icons, the auto-expand approach it uses by default is kinda crap.
[05:03] <xangua> if by ubuntu deskto you mean Unity, there are no "gnome shell extensions" for it
[05:03] <reisio> mduffor: what would you prefer?
[05:03] <xangua> and I would just learn to use the launcher mduffor
[05:06] <mduffor> Well, the default Unity launcher doesn't deal with lots of icons well.  The first 18-20 or so are displayed fine, with the rest bunched up at the bottom.  The bunched icons are not well managed, because if you put your cursor over the launcher, move the cursor down, and then move the cursor off, the icons shift around so that when you move back onto the launcher you are over a different icon.  Contrast this with OSX or some of the
[05:06] <mduffor>  other Linux toolbars where if you move your cursor on or off of the bar at the same location you get the same app.
[05:07] <mduffor> xangua: Is there more to the launcher than just moving your cursor over it and then moving the cursor up and down to scroll the icons?  I understand how to use it, it is just lousy.
[05:08] <mduffor> Since Ubuntu got rid of hierarchical menus and moved to the search utility, discoverability has suffered.
[05:09] <mduffor> Shelves would at least allow putting graphics apps together, or tucking the configuration apps away that I use infrequently
[05:10] <xangua> mduffor: you can actually see the categories in the Apps tab
[05:11] <xangua> (filter results)
[05:12] <xangua> so you can see internet apps in internet, graphic apps in graphics, and so one, ass always ;)
[05:14] <mduffor> But even with the filter results, you still need to enter a search term for it to display anything, right?
[05:14] <angelle> guys
[05:14] <angelle> should I install Ubuntu over windows 10?
[05:14] <xangua> if you want to angelle
[05:14] <Ben64> only you can decide that
[05:15] <daftykins> does 'over' in this sentence mean as a preference, or 'over' as in overwrite?
[05:15] <angelle> if I was your lover or wife or gf what would you say?
[05:15] <daftykins> i would say stop acting weird on freenode
[05:15] <xangua> it would be her choice, I'm not her owner
[05:15] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[05:15] <angelle> but you would give an advice to your liver wouldn't you?
[05:16] <angelle> lover.
[05:16] <daftykins> my liver gets what i feed it and nothing more
[05:16] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[05:16] <angelle> I meant lover
[05:16] <mduffor> xangua: So to see what Graphics apps I have, I click on the Search icon, click on Applications, click to open Filter results, click to select graphics, then click on see more results, and have to scroll because the icons are so huge and in a grid view.  That's much clunkier than a hierarchical menu IMHO.
[05:17] <angelle> what's the newest version of Ubuntu?
[05:17] <daftykins> 15.04
[05:17] <angelle> the last one I tried was I think Ubuntu 11
[05:17] <angelle> or 12
[05:17] <daftykins> ok
[05:17] <angelle> i think 15 has finally that 3d thing isn't it?
[05:17] <xangua> mduffor: then install the appmenu indicator thing
[05:17] <xangua> http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[05:18] <angelle> what are pros and cons of installing Ubuntu?
[05:18] <Johnny_Linux> security, for one
[05:19] <daftykins> angelle: either do it if you want to try it, or don't - i don't see any reason to be asking all these deep questions
[05:19] <daftykins> you can even try it *without* installing
[05:19] <angelle> look I have to know before using it right?
[05:19] <xangua> do or do not, there is no try
[05:19] <daftykins> angelle: not really
[05:19] <angelle> it's just like with buying car I won't be driving it around for days to find out the if I like it or not
[05:19] <daftykins> e.g. i bet you never asked this of Windows :>
[05:19] <angelle> I have to buy
[05:20] <daftykins> i disagree with that
[05:20] <angelle> that's why I came here to ask what are the pros and cons of installing Ubuntu 15
[05:20] <cfhowlett> angelle, so try the live boot session without installing.  problem solved.
[05:20] <daftykins> angelle: download, put on USB flash drive, boot, test... everyone wins
[05:20] <cfhowlett> angelle, why ask?  just test it for yourself.  easy.  also: YOU'RE the user.  YOUR opinion is what matters.
[05:21] <daftykins> cfhowlett: +1
[05:21] <angelle> daftykins wins?
[05:21] <angelle> are you saying everybody use wins?
[05:21] <angelle> windows?
[05:21] <daftykins> sigh. i'm beginning to think you're just a timewasting troll
[05:21] <cfhowlett> angelle, of course that's not what he said.  don't be thick. don't troll
[05:22] <daftykins> !manual | angelle anyway read here for more.
[05:22] <angelle> daftykins stop calling people trolls for asking technical questions about Ubuntu
[05:22] <angelle> OK?
[05:22] <daftykins> you are not asking anything technical.
[05:23] <cfhowlett> angelle, your question has been asked/answered repeatedly.  time to move on.
[05:23] <angelle> what are pros and cons of installing Ubuntu 15?
[05:23] <angelle> now you can answer daftykins
[05:23] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu | angelle read the wiki.
[05:23] <daftykins> angelle: no, i am done with you.
[05:24] <angelle> your done?
[05:24] <angelle> you're the troll
[05:24] <cfhowlett> as am I.  one more name added to /ignore.
[05:24] <angelle> I asked simple questions and you refuse to answer
[05:24] <angelle> that's not nice daftykins
[05:24] <daftykins> yep a troll that hangs around and gives help for free, how dare i
[05:24] <daftykins> oh grow up you pathetic excuse for a human being
[05:24] <angelle> you didn't give any help
[05:24] <angelle> I asked you didn't answer.
[05:25] <daftykins> i have deemed you unworthy.
[05:25] <daftykins> bye bye
[05:25] <xangua> daftykins: you are gona explode D: pls no
[05:25] <daftykins> g'night fellow helpers o/
[05:25] <angelle> daftykins we dint really need you in our channel
[05:25] <angelle> go join windows.
[05:26] <daftykins> please stop trolling.
[05:26] <mduffor> angelle: Ubuntu is a decent distribution of Linux.  If you are interested in running Linux, Ubuntu makes it easy to try it out.  Ubuntu has the standard stuff you'd expect in an OS, but probably won't run some of the Windows apps you may be used to.  Sometimes there are alternatives to these apps that may get the job done for you.
[05:27] <angelle> will blackberry desktop manager run in Ubuntu?
[05:27] <mduffor> angelle:  Ubuntu is free to try out, and you can try it out without having to install over your existing OS.  But you'll need to test it yourself to see if it suits your needs or not.
[05:27] <mduffor> I'm unfamiliar with blackberry desktop manager.  You'll need to google for that answer.
[05:28] <angelle> mduffor you're really way more professional than daftykins
[05:30] <angelle> I have to go now because of my bf is bothering me I think he wants a sex
[05:30] <angelle> I will come back in an hour or two
[05:30] <angelle> take care guys
[05:33] <bert88sta> can anyone help me with a shellscript
[05:33] <dreamon> I want to use ubuntu printer server on local network to use without password asking.. what do I have to chance in standard settings of cupsd.conf?
[05:52] <attlasbot> can someone help me get my fn keys working on xubuntu??
[06:01] <Jervac> Anyone know to solve the black window problem with steam?
[06:04] <Lem2> hi all, recently started using 15.04 and seem to be having pulseaudio issues, particularly with mpd. pulseaudio seems to be getting started twice (lightdm starts it), then mpd will start another instance
[06:07] <Lem2> brb
[06:07] <mobeous> Hey guys. Is there a way to change my laptop to ubuntu touch?
[06:08] <mobeous> Or can I do a fresh install?
[06:15] <colin_> hello
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> !touch | mobeous
[06:17] <mobeous> ubottu: thank your master for me
[06:17] <mobeous> ubottu: more intelligent than I
[06:18] <mobeous> ubottu: Yeah but you should just take the compliment
[06:18] <mobeous> ubottu: now you're just being rude
[06:18] <mobeous> ubottu: that's it. I'm leaving.
[06:24] <l9> ubottu: i need too run a os windowed, can that be done and how ?
[06:25] <l9> just had too ;)
[06:30] <multidex> hi ubuntu people
[07:00] <michaelrose> question on various discussions I hear people saying somehow the transition to snappy packages will eliminate dependency problems, does anyone actually have those?
[07:03] <michaelrose> larger question does anyone think snappy packages are a great idea
[07:27] <mikodo> I've made a mess of my gufw and ufw ... I want to stop it and go with Ubuntu's that is installed for my one and only machine. Can I shut it off, then reboot, and will Ubuntu's default firewall settings kick it
[07:27] <mikodo> *kick in
[07:28] <gallynero> In ubuntu cloud, i can add external nodes or only accept local network nodes?
[07:29] <mikodo> ^^^ shut off Gufw I meant, and then reboot
[07:30] <Fjorgynn> morning
[07:38] <Fjorgynn> ohai
[07:46] <xchatter> Which program can I use to print business cards?
[07:46] <xchatter> Is there anything that comes with Ubuntu?
[07:54] <mvk>  when i install an application in /opt, what chmod should i give that directory?
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> xchatter: normally you can use libreoffice to do that
[08:01] <MonkeyDust> xchatter  or inkscape
[08:03] <jellow> mvk: 755? (rwx, xr,xr). Don't think really matters
[08:06] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, thx
[08:10] <xchatter> lotuspsychje, with libre office writer ?
[08:11] <murosai> are all debian packages based on a compiled upstream version of the software or is it possible that some packages have some usermade patches?
[08:12] <kype> hey guys, im new to ubuntu and now im stuck on the workspace switcher
[08:13] <kype> Is there any way to get back to one desktop
[08:14] <toqoz> kype: dont you just click workspace 1 or something?
[08:15] <kype> toqoz: No it doesnt work
[08:15] <jellow> kype: ctrl-alt <arrow keys>?
[08:16] <MonkeyDust> kype  install unity-tweak, use it to change the number of desktops
[08:16] <kype> jellow: The cursor moves - but it doesnt zoom in on the one desktop
[08:18] <kype> Ah it was a bug, when dragging windows across workspaces
[08:18] <kype> had to restart ubuntu
[08:26] <murosai> can i use a package from debian repo? it seems that debian has applied some pathches to the package that ubuntu has not done
[08:28] <MonkeyDust> murosai  don't mix software sources
[08:37] <hiexpo> MonkeyDust, he's in debian trying to get help the also
[08:37] <hiexpo> ^there
[08:40] <ikonia> then it stops in here
[08:40] <cyking> i'm trying to understand the instructions for my bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1453391  Which specific kernel to they want me to test?
[08:42] <hiexpo> holla ikonia
[08:43] <cyking> does it mean i should test v4.1-rc2-vivid ?
[09:00] <yorwos> guyz just wondering , if i changed my mac adress for a few hours , and then realised i had lost the original mac adress to revert later , is there any way to see my mac adress history or something ? (i had saved it in a txt ,i finally found it, just curious if i hadnt been able to find it at all)
[09:01] <ikonia> who see the history ?
[09:01] <EriC^^> yorwos: if you reboot it'll change back anyways
[09:01] <yorwos> ohhh i didnt know that , cool thanx eric :)
[09:01] <EriC^^> np :)
[09:06] <yorwos> im off ..take care cya
[09:11] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> this isint really a ubuntu issue but im at my wits end and cant find anyhelp anywhere.. if someone can tell me what i am supsoed to do to fix this... http://pastebin.com/SKStxjkQ
[09:13] <ikonia> it's complaining something is missing - investiate what
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS  it's snort error, that's some intrusion detection tool
[09:15] <MonkeyDust> it's a*
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS  do you want to install that?
[09:27] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> yea ive been trying to configure it for the past 3 days and have been doing alright until this error 2 days ago, ive searched through google for the past 2 days now
[09:28] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> and yes, yes i deffintly do lol MonkeyDust
[09:28] <ikonia> maybe talk to the snort guys
[09:28] <ikonia> or use an official ubuntu install and guide
[09:30] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> ikonia, i know the snort channel is utterly useless, there the only people that havent replied... im clutching for straws at this point aha
[09:30] <ikonia> it is not useless
[09:31] <ikonia> either use snort guide - or use an official ubuntu install
[09:32] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> and i looked through the guide and used the search function on my pc on the guide- couldent find anything to trouble shoot it, i have already went through it.. the only thing i think it could be is the file libsf_dce2_preproc.so is corupted or missing something crucial
[09:32] <ikonia> either use snort guide - or use an official ubuntu install
[09:32] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> not the guide that was helpfull but the snort channel not so much
[09:39] <Trudko> hi guys is there some decent and easy to setup support for voice commands on ubuntu? Something like turn on turn off run command ?
[09:39] <HewloThere> Hi guys. I'm having serious issues. I'm on Ubuntu 15.04 and I don't know if I'm retarded or not but I can't seem to install Java.
[09:40] <HewloThere> I tried apt-get install default-jre, I tried downloading the file from the Java website but I have no idea how to install it?
[09:40] <ikonia> I'd try to explain a bit better than that
[09:41] <HewloThere> Note, I cannot restart my PC.
[09:41] <ikonia> I'd try to explain a bit better than that
[09:41] <AR45> clear
[09:41] <HewloThere> Basically, how can I install a file that came from a tar.gz file?
[09:41] <AR45> Im sorry.
[09:41] <ikonia> HewloThere: that is not what you asked, you asked how to install java
[09:41] <ikonia> AR45: no problem
[09:41] <HewloThere> I'm completely new to Ubuntu desktop.
[09:42] <ikonia> HewloThere: https://help.ubuntu.com is an excellent introduction
[09:42] <ikonia> answers a lot of basic first time user questions and situations
[09:42] <HewloThere> Yes. And I am installing Java, but I cannot figure out how to do it from the tar.gz.
[09:42] <ikonia> don't use a tar.gz
[09:42] <ikonia> use the ubuntu package manager
[09:42] <ikonia> and read https://help.ubuntu.com for an introduction to the basics
[09:59] <webmobster> Hi, I installed ubuntu with brtfs last night, but installer seems to have mucked up my fstab a bit, does anyone know how to safetly remove a brtfs subvolume mounted to the same mount pount as a normal partition? /dev/sdb1 on /home type btrfs (rw,subvol=@home) /dev/sdb2 on /home type btrfs (rw)
[10:04] <anandh> hi friends
[10:05] <anandh> i am facing problem in detecting my mobile device from the usb port
[10:05] <anandh> couldnt able to mount the device
[10:05] <anandh> is the error .. as i am a newbie
[10:06] <anandh> can any one help to detect it
[10:06] <ikonia> most of the time it will because it can't mount/detect it as an mtp device (could be other things) but that is the most common cause
[10:07] <anandh> ikonia, so wat is the solution?
[10:11] <cristian_c> anandh, what ubuntu release?
[10:11] <anandh> 12
[10:13] <cristian_c> anandh, 12.04?
[10:13] <anandh> yes
[10:13] <anandh> it is 12.04
[10:13] <anandh> :)
[10:13] <cristian_c> anandh, 14.04 supports mtp devices better
[10:14] <anandh> ok u mean uprading will surely help
[10:14] <cristian_c> anandh, anyway, you can also set your device in msc mode, if available
[10:14] <anandh> what is msc mode and how to set it
[10:14] <cristian_c> anandh, you can try in live mode
[10:14] <cristian_c> anandh, mass storage class, you can set it in you device
[10:15] <anandh> cristian_c,  I am sorry buddy , but i am totally unaware about the modes you are talking about
[10:15] <anandh> ok
[10:15] <cristian_c> anandh, it's an android setting
[10:15] <anandh> oh k
[10:15] <cristian_c> but it's an ubuntu channel, so...
[10:15] <anandh> it should be done in my device it self right?
[10:15] <cristian_c> yes, if available
[10:16] <anandh> okay .. thanks for your feedback ...
[10:16] <cristian_c> changing from mtp to mass storage
[10:16] <anandh> i will try setting that option if not found will upgrade to ubuntu 14
[10:16] <cristian_c> anandh, 14.04 is good for mtp mode too
[10:16] <anandh> :)
[10:16] <cristian_c> anandh, you can try 14.04 in live mode, to be sure
[10:17] <cristian_c> without installing it
[10:17] <anandh> live mode ?
[10:17] <cristian_c> anandh, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[10:18] <cristian_c> https://assets.ubuntu.com/sites/ubuntu/latest/u/img/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install/image-tryubuntubeforeyouinstall-1.jpg
[10:18] <anandh> i understand you are talking about some kind of virtualiztion environment
[10:18] <cristian_c> anandh, no no
[10:18] <anandh> ok
[10:18] <cristian_c> anandh, read to the link
[10:19] <anandh> i mean without installing can explore the ubuntu14
[10:19] <cristian_c> 'try ubuntu' instead of 'install ubuntu'
[10:19] <anandh> any ways thanks a ton i will first read the link
[10:19] <cristian_c> ok
[10:19] <anandh> yes :)
[10:19] <anandh> got it
[10:37] <ePirat> Hello
[10:37] <ePirat> Where to go for ubuntu kernel related stuff? is there a special channel?
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> ePirat  try #ubuntu-kernel
[10:38] <ePirat> thx
[10:48] <attlasbot> what are some must have applications for ubuntu
[10:48] <amazon> hi guys
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> attlasbot  a file browser and an internet browser
[10:49] <amazon> how high is the commission ubuntu receives on each product bought through the ubuntu amazon app
[10:49] <amazon> ?
[10:50] <bekks> 0€.
[10:50] <amazon> bekks hows that. they create ref links or not?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> amazon  what brings you here?
[10:52] <amazon> monkeydust just wanted to know. i bought 200e worth of stuff on amazon through the app to donate the commission yo ubuntu and was wondering how high it is
[10:53] <ozkan> la noliye
[10:53] <ozkan> fe
[10:53] <ozkan> heyy
[10:54] <ozkan> naber
[10:54] <ozkan> napan
[10:54] <ozkan> nasısın
[10:54] <ozkan> iyilik sağlık
[10:54] <amazon> stop spamming retard
[10:54] <ozkan> susla
[10:54] <ozkan> hahah
[10:54] <amazon> orusbu cucu
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> ozkan  it works, we see you
[10:54] <SCHAAP137> ozkan, #ubuntu-tr
[10:54] <ozkan> kendine bak la daha onu düzgün yazamıyo
[10:55] <ozkan> orospu çocuğu
[10:55] <amazon> monkey dust do u know how high it is?
[10:55] <ozkan> sikerim götünü
[10:55] <SCHAAP137> türk kanalı
[10:55] <bekks> !tr | ozkan
[10:55] <ozkan> ne
[10:55] <SCHAAP137> biz Türk dili anlamıyorum
[10:55] <ozkan> nasıl oda değiştiriliyor
[10:56] <ozkan> ee konuştun
[10:56] <ozkan> working
[10:56] <ozkan> by
[10:56] <ozkan> see you later
[10:56] <ozkan> ı am syady
[10:56] <SCHAAP137> time for another espresso
[10:56] <ozkan> türkçen nasıl
[10:57] <ozkan> benle yazıştın ya
[10:57] <amazon> annenim sikerim
[10:57] <ozkan> hop küfüre başlama
[10:57] <amazon> yap ma pic
[10:57] <ozkan> ne yapmıyım
[10:58] <amazon> siktir orusbu cucu
[10:58] <ozkan> ne oldu
[10:58] <amazon> olum
[10:58] <ozkan> neyyy
[10:58] <Johnny_Linux> ohluh
[10:58] <ozkan> nee
[10:58] <cristian_c> ozkan, please use #ubuntu-tr channel
[10:59] <amazon> how high is the commission ubuntu receives on each product bought through the ubuntu amazon app
[10:59] <ozkan> konuşma lan
[10:59] <ikonia> delta94
[11:00] <amazon> i dont speak turk very well speak english orusbucucu
[11:00] <ikonia> delta94
[11:00] <amazon> ping ikonia
[11:01] <Fjorgynn> anyone using cryptsetup?
[11:14] <Trudko> hi guys is there some decent and easy to setup support for voice commands on ubuntu? Something like turn on turn off run command ?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> Trudko  you mean speech recognition?
[11:16] <vitimiti> Trudko, what about this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/194378/how-do-i-install-and-use-voice-commands
[11:16] <uporot> hi all! my touchpad is not right worked.how i can restart touchpad driver without reboot ubuntu ?
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> !touch | uporot
[11:19] <uporot> is not worked touchpad on my netbook
[11:19] <uporot> this is mouse
[11:22] <HoloIRCUser2> hello
[11:23] <zil> Hi there
[11:23] <zil> My sound has stopped working
[11:23] <zil> I've tried uninstalling pulseaudio
[11:23] <zil> and reinstalling it
[11:24] <zil> I've tried renaming the .config/pulse folder and restarting
[11:24] <faaz> hi,i have configured WordNet after that it said: Installation directory: /usr/local/WordNet-3.0 but i see no WordNet file in /usr/local ,whats the problem?
[11:25] <zil> I'm not sure what else to do, there is no speaker icon
[11:25] <zil> I'm using ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[11:28] <zil> I'm unable to run pulseaudio device chooser
[11:28] <attlasbot> how do you install pip3 on ubuntu 15.04
[11:30] <Fjorgynn> :D
[11:30] <Fjorgynn> what is pip3?
[11:31] <attlasbot> python packaging
[11:32]  * TengokuNoIsan sneaks in and leaves a platter of chocolate sriracha bacon
[11:47] <Siente> Hello guys, when I try to install kubuntu or ubuntu my installation is always crashing: http://www.azlatev.com/snapshot1.png
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:51] <faaz> why do i have no file in instalation directory after ./configure ?
[11:54] <EriC^^> faaz: ?
[11:54] <EriC^^> faaz: what are you trying to install?
[11:56] <uporot> what server best use on ubuntu? for php dev
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> uporot  14.04 lts
[11:58] <nith1210> uporot: It's a question of preference but your two strongest options are probably Apache2 and Nginx. I believe Apache2 to be easier to get started.
[12:00] <nith1210> !apache > uporot
[12:00] <uporot> ok!
[12:00] <nith1210> !php > uporot
[12:00] <nith1210> And I'll stop, hope that helps :)
[12:03] <uporot> ubottu, tnx)
[12:03] <uporot> nith1210 , thx
[12:28] <wuschLOR> hi there I#m trying to make kate dafault editor for git instead of vim or nano - but git config --global core.editor 'kate' doesnt work
[12:29] <wuschLOR> actualy it just works when kate is not open
[12:33] <Siente> Guys, when I try to install kubuntu or ubuntu my installation is always crashing: http://www.azlatev.com/snapshot1.png
[12:33] <bhangota> how to fix mouse's cursor blinking in ubuntu 15 ?
[12:35] <bhangota> It starts randomly disappearing and flickering a lot.
[12:49] <rainbowwarrior> hello how do i enable my webcam and mic in Ubuntu 15.04 for firefox and adobe flash please ?
[12:52] <cristian_c> rainbowwarrior, http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/it/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html
[12:53] <cristian_c> sorry
[12:53] <cristian_c> rainbowwarrior, http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager02.html
[12:53] <rainbowwarrior> cristian_c thank you
[12:53] <ikonia> depending on flash is just going to cause you problems
[12:53] <cristian_c> rainbowwarrior, the second link
[12:53] <ikonia> it's pretty much dead for linux in real terms
[12:54] <rainbowwarrior> ikonia ok thank you
[12:54] <rainbowwarrior> cristian_c,  got it thank you
[12:55] <[976497]A> [ubuntu 14.04] how to create another user with his home directory?
[12:55] <cristian_c> rainbowwarrior, if you access to a website that requests you webcam (and mic), right click on flash content and select Flash settings to check webcam support and permissions
[12:56] <rainbowwarrior> cristian_c , ok thank you
[12:57] <Lokust_> hi
[12:59] <rainbowwarrior> cristian_c , ikonia got it working it wanted me to give it permission manually
[13:04] <cristian_c> good
[13:04] <daniel> Daniel hello
[13:11] <nith1210> Siente: While installing, was there a checkbox or something which indicated it would download extra packages or upgrade during the installation?
[13:11] <ikonia> yes there is
[13:12] <ghostkid> hello everybody
[13:12] <Fjorgynn> and you to
[13:13] <Siente> nith1210, yes
[13:13] <nith1210> Siente: please try again and this time ensure that it is unchecked. (though I imagine #kubuntu could help more).
[13:13] <Siente> nith1210, but I have the same problem with ubuntu too
[13:14] <nith1210> Siente: yup, it has the same checkbox. Try without that checked and run updates after it's installed.
[13:14] <Siente> nith1210, it's not only with kubuntu I've tried to install ubuntu as well and again my installation is crashing
[13:14] <Fjorgynn> that's bad
[13:14] <Siente> nith1210, there are 2 checkbox I should let them unchecked?
[13:14] <nith1210> Siente: You'll have to remind me specifically what they say, sorry.
[13:15] <Fjorgynn> one is for updating the system and one is for installing flash, mp3 and such
[13:15] <Siente> yes
[13:15] <Fjorgynn> yes leave atleast "update" unchecked
[13:15] <nith1210> Ahh, yes, uncheck them both. You can install them later.
[13:15] <Siente> okay
[13:16] <Fjorgynn> when you have installed linux you will get a prompt saying "There are a lot of updates"
[13:16] <ghostkid> what we could talk about?
[13:16] <Fjorgynn> ghostkid: LUKS and cryptsetup
[13:16] <Siente> okay
[13:18] <ikonia> the channel topic is ubuntu technical support, please try to keep to that topic please
[13:18] <delgos> help
[13:19] <delgos> #help
[13:19] <Fjorgynn> ikonia: isn't it that what we are talking about here?
[13:19] <Fjorgynn> How to install Ubuntu without failing and crashing the installation?
[13:19] <ikonia> looks like it
[13:19] <ikonia> what part is it crashing, what version and arch of ubuntu are you using?
[13:20] <Fjorgynn> ikonia: ask Siente
[13:20] <Fjorgynn> 14:33:11 < Siente> Guys, when I try to install kubuntu or ubuntu my installation is always crashing: http://www.azlatev.com/snapshot1.png
[13:21] <Siente> I tried ubuntu 14.04.02 and 15.04 and kubuntu 15.04
[13:21] <teward> what architecture?  amd64?  i386?  armhf?  powerpc?  etc.
[13:21] <teward> Siente: ^
[13:21] <Siente> 64
[13:21] <Fjorgynn> does ubuntu still support powerpc?
[13:21] <teward> Fjorgynn: still worth asking, you know.  :P
[13:21] <Fjorgynn> :P
[13:21] <ikonia> PPC is pretty much dead
[13:22] <Fjorgynn> Debian is supporting everything, even the FOrd Model T, I know that.
[13:22] <ikonia> there is a community port and the lubuntu guys try to put effort into it - but it's just not there
[13:26] <nith1210> Siente: Any luck?
[13:26] <Siente> nith1210, I haven't tried yet, because I am going to install it on this pc on another partition
[13:26] <nith1210> Siente: Ahh, ok
[13:29] <ivan_> guys
[13:29] <Guest38961> guys
[13:29] <Guest38961> i need help
[13:30] <nith1210> !help
[13:30] <Siente> nith1210, I am going to do it now
[13:30] <Guest38961> !help
[13:30] <TengokuNoIsan> CRAP!
[13:30] <TengokuNoIsan> No one move!
[13:30] <TengokuNoIsan> I dropped a contact lens!
[13:30]  * TengokuNoIsan searches
[13:30] <Guest38961> I cant run skype it always crash
[13:31]  * TengokuNoIsan hears a crunch from under Guest38961's foot!
[13:31] <TengokuNoIsan> NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
[13:31] <nith1210> !offtopic | TengokuNoIsan
[13:34] <faaz> hi,welcome fereydoon :)
[13:35] <jellow> Guest25578: does it output anything? do you have a .skype folder in your home folder?
[13:36] <jellow> !skype | jellow
[13:40] <kate_> Hi guys
[13:40] <kate_> I have problem upgrading my ubuntu 12.04 to version 14.04
[13:41] <kate_> While upgrading I get the error "Third party sources disabled"
[13:41] <kate_> What shoul I do now?
[13:41] <kate_> should*
[13:43] <kate_> Can anyone please help?
[13:44] <kate_> I have problem upgrading my ubuntu
[13:44] <kate_> :'((
[13:45] <nith1210> kate_: Are you using the gui or the terminal to do this?
[13:45] <kate_> I m using the gui
[13:45] <kate_> nith1210_
[13:45] <jellow> kate_: just re-enable them once you've finished upgrade
[13:47] <kate_> jellow_: Beside the upgrading problem, I can t even update ubuntu
[13:48] <jellow> kate_: apt-get update does not work?
[13:49] <kate_> jellow_: Nope!
[13:49] <jellow> kate_: can you paste the output on pastebinit of apt-get update?
[13:51] <kate_> jellow_: Here's the error:
[13:51] <kate_> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security/universe Translation-en          Get:7 http://dl.google.com stable/main TranslationIndex [1,540 B]               Fetched 1,099 kB in 2min 6s (8,698 B/s)        W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/main/i18n/Index  No Hash entry in Release file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_Index  E: Some index files failed
[13:51] <jellow> !paste | kate_
[13:52] <ubuntuser13> libreoffice: extension manager: exception in sychronize. how to solve this?
[13:52] <cfhowlett> kate apt-get update DOES work ... it's just that particular package that's failing.  try a different mirro
[13:52] <bazhang> or just comment out the google mirror
[13:53] <kate_> I pasted in pastebin :D
[13:53] <bazhang> ubuntuser13, try the libreoffice channel for that
[13:53] <ubuntuser13> bazhang: Thanks
[13:54] <kate_> jellow_: How can you see my text now?
[13:54] <auronandace> kate_: you need to post the url here
[13:55] <kate_> jellow_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11062305/
[13:55] <kate_> auronandace_
 i see you.. i'm super new, i hope you get this message
[13:55] <gosh> is this a support forum for ubuntu users?
[13:56] <cfhowlett> gosh, it is.  ask your questions
[13:57] <kate_> gosh: Yeap
[13:57] <gosh> i want to install xubuntu on my new computer, which has no os. i wonder how to do it in such a way that will let me install windows later on if i want to.
[13:57] <cfhowlett> gosh, install windows first
[13:58] <xangua> gosh: install windows first would be easier
[13:58] <xangua> !dualboot
[13:58] <auronandace> gosh: installing windows is separate, you'd need to make sure you partition your harddrive in advance, but windows will overwrite your bootloader
[13:58] <gosh> thats easy. but atm i dont have windows.
[13:58] <jellow> kate_:  can you open the program Synaptic?
[13:59] <jellow> kate_:  System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[14:01] <gosh> auronandace if i find out how to install xubuntu before windows while partitioning my harddrive, will windows later on still overwrite xubuntu?
[14:01] <gosh> auronandace: if i find out how to install xubuntu before windows while partitioning my harddrive, will windows later on still overwrite xubuntu?
[14:02] <faaz> why do i see no installation directory on /usr/local after ./configure?
[14:02] <auronandace> gosh: if you install windows to the partition you choose then xubuntu will be untouched, but you will need to reinstall the bootloader
[14:03] <faaz> i am trying to install wordnet on ubuntu 14.04
[14:03] <kate_> jellow: Sorry I cannot find it. Is it in "System Settings" under System part?
[14:03] <auronandace> gosh: windows will always assume it is the only operating system and put its bootloader first ignoring anything else
[14:04] <huijaa> is that an irc-chat ?
[14:04] <jellow> !wordnet | faaz
[14:04] <cfhowlett> huijaa, this is ubuntu support.  topic is ubuntu.
[14:04] <kate_> jellow: Guess I do not have it installed
[14:04] <huijaa> ow thanks.... i have ubuntu mate on my pi2
[14:04] <faaz> jellow, yes wordNet
[14:05] <bazhang> !info wordnet
[14:05] <kate_> jellow: Should I install it?
[14:05] <auronandace> kate_: synaptic is not installed by default anymore
[14:05] <huijaa> ok see ya later...
[14:06] <jellow> faaz: It is in repo http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/wordnet , there a reason you don't install that version?
[14:07] <gosh> auronandace: could you help me understand better: it is possible to install xubuntu before windows, but i will have to deal with reinstalling the bootloader so that what won't happen?
[14:07] <kate_> auronandace: I m installing it by the way
[14:08] <jellow> kate_: hmm do you have ubuntu software center in main menu?
[14:08] <auronandace> gosh: windows will always overwrite the bootloader, that is why it is recommended to install it first, you can't avoid windows overwriting the bootloader if you install after any OS
[14:08] <cfhowlett> gosh, if you install windows after ubuntu, windows *WILL* overwrite the bootloader.  deal with it.
[14:08] <kate_> jellow: yes
[14:09] <gosh> auronandace: :)
[14:09] <jellow> kate_: Ubuntu Software Center : >> Edit, Software Sources and then disable the PPAs in "other Software" tab ?
[14:12] <[976497]A> [ubuntu 14.04] how to create another user together with his home directory?
[14:12] <SchrodingersScat> !adduser | [976497]A
[14:12] <cfhowlett> !adduser | [976497]A
[14:13] <kate_> jellow: You mean I should uncheck all the PPAs?
[14:13] <auronandace> [976497]A: check out system settings > user accounts if you want a gui way of doing it
[14:13] <[976497]A> adduser is not creating additional directory in home folder
[14:13] <jellow> kate_: Yes you can re-enable them once you've finished upgrading your system.
[14:14] <auronandace> kate_: keep in mind that you should only use a PPA that corresponds to the release you are running
[14:15] <faaz> jellow,i am trying to install WordNet-3.0.
[14:15] <[976497]A> auronandace: I don't want a gui way and adduser command is not adding additional directory.
[14:15] <kate_> jellow: Is the PPA: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/stable actually lead me to failure?
[14:16] <jellow> kate_: Package manager was only warning that it could not find it, I don't think it could have affected upgrade
[14:17] <faaz> jellow, i have resently upgrated my ubuntu and my updates are not complete can this be the resaon that i have no instalation directory on /usr/local after ./configure?
[14:19] <Siente> nith1210, hello I've tried to install ubuntu 14.04.02 offline and it's crashing again ?
[14:19] <capruro> hi
[14:20] <faust> hi
[14:20] <faust> is it true that ubuntu "desktop" will switch to snappy as PM ?
[14:20] <nith1210> Siente: Are you still on the installed version?
[14:21] <nith1210> Siente: or rather, are you still one the live session
[14:21] <Siente> nith1210, no
[14:21] <kate_> jellow: I unchecked all the PPAs, now should run apt-get update?
[14:22] <jellow> faaz: I don't know why would ./configure create /usr/local? usually it is just a matter of ./configure && make && make install. You can manually move things to /usr/local/src but should not make difference
[14:22] <muhajir> ulala :v
[14:22] <muhajir> kimochi :v
[14:22] <auronandace> faaz: why are you compiling wordnet when it is in the repos?
[14:22] <jellow> kate_: yes
[14:22] <muhajir> ikkeh ikkeh kimochi :v
[14:22] <muhajir> oppai :v
[14:23] <muhajir> ikkeh ikkeh kimochi yamate kudasai :v
[14:23] <muhajir> oppai daisuki :v
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[14:23] <nith1210> Siente: When you start up your live session, go to the "try" option. You should be able to use an IRC client from there and I can help you directly
[14:24] <nith1210> Siente: Otherwise, it's a long and arduous guess and check.
[14:24] <muhajir> kimochiii :v
[14:25] <jellow> faaz: version 3.0-26.1 wordnet is in repo just confirm that is not what you want?
[14:25] <faaz> auronandace, i dont know what is repos?
[14:25] <auronandace> faaz: repositories
[14:26] <auronandace> faaz: you use a package manager to manage the software on your system, the software is stored in a repository
[14:26] <kate_> jellow: This time, I got the same warning and more errors!
[14:26] <auronandace> faaz: this is the way most linux distros install software which is quite different to the windows approach
[14:27] <auronandace> !software | faaz
[14:28] <jellow> faaz: you could try running sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install wordnet-gui
[14:28] <ghutzriop> Hi I mounted a smb share with nautilus on ubuntu 15.04. how do I access the files by terminal? /run/user/1000/gvfs is empty
[14:28] <kate_> jellow: Here's the output, I pasted in pastebin.
[14:29] <jellow> kate_: we need the pastebin link.
[14:29] <kate_> jellow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11062834/
[14:30] <faaz> jellow,my updates are not complete yet its for the first time and takes time so i stoped it and trying to install wordnet
[14:30] <auronandace> kate_: you have more than one package manager running
[14:31] <faaz> after ./configure i get his message :WordNet is now configured    Installation directory:               /usr/local/WordNet-3.0 ,but dont have this directory.
[14:31] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | kate_
[14:32] <bazhang> faaz, finish the update, install wordnet from ubuntu sources, no reason at all to compile it
[14:32] <auronandace> kate_: if you are trying to run apt-get while you have synaptic or the software centre open you will get that lock message
[14:32] <kate_> auronandace: how to know that there is two running?
[14:32] <bazhang> faaz, going outside package management means you have to manually upgrade it every time
[14:33] <kate_> auronandace: aha
[14:38] <Siente> nith1210, okay I'll do it are you still there?
[14:38] <muhajir> chimori
[14:38] <jellow> faaz: I can help you compile it but your really update system and use the package manager ..
[14:38] <muhajir> hey
[14:38] <muhajir> what's up
[14:38] <bazhang> muhajir, stop that
[14:38] <muhajir> yeah?
[14:38] <bazhang> this is ubuntu support only muhajir
[14:39] <muhajir> oh i am sorry
[14:39] <muhajir> i am new to irc
[14:39] <kate_> auronandace: I closed software center, also I was installing synaptic, but I still got the lock message after updating
[14:39] <bazhang> muhajir, take that chat somewhere else
[14:39] <cfhowlett> kate_, I sent you the !aptlock message.  read and heed
[14:39] <kate_> auronandace: Is it possible that synaptic is running?
[14:40] <[976497]A> when using adduser command additional user folder in home directory doesn't appear. why?
[14:40] <kate_> cfhowlett: where is it?
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !aptlock | kate_
[14:40] <auronandace> kate_: if you are sure that there is nothing else doing package management then try doing what the message says in !aptlock
[14:41] <cfhowlett> [976497]A, user has to login to initiate the /home creation process
[14:42] <Zaitzev> [976497]A: useradd -m USERNAME
[14:42] <[976497]A> cfhowlett: what command is initiating /home creation process?
[14:42] <capruro> [976497]A: you must use useradd -m [username]
[14:42] <[976497]A> ok, i'll try
[14:42] <ajxier_> Hi
[14:42] <ajxier_> Anyone with dual boot and preinstaled windows 8?
[14:43] <Zaitzev> I have dualboot on this laptop yes
[14:43] <ajxier_> did you lost something?
[14:43] <Zaitzev> no
[14:44] <faaz> i can let the update finish and then install wordnet it takes time so i wanted to have wordnet sooner dont know how
[14:44] <ajxier_> Zaitzev: can you tell me where did you found tutorial about resize ntfs safe?
[14:44] <bazhang> faaz, thats a very bad idea
[14:44] <auronandace> faaz: updates don't take too long unless you have a slow internet connection
[14:45] <sonda> can anyone tell me good note taking app for ubuntu
[14:46] <sonda> i should be able to write anywhere
[14:46] <Zaitzev> Evernote via wine :)
[14:46] <sonda> instant search facility should be there
[14:46] <sonda> i don't want to use wine
[14:46] <cfhowlett> +1 evernote
[14:46] <ikonia> gedit?
[14:47] <auronandace> faaz: package managers are used to manage software on your system for a reason, trying to install things without a package management system (such as compiling) makes it very difficult to keep things up to date. I'm sure you don't want to compile every single update manually
[14:47] <Zaitzev> ajxier_: I never did that
[14:47] <ajxier_> Zaitzev: I don't understand you
[14:47] <ajxier_> you just said  yo did
[14:47] <ajxier_> Are you with dual boot?
[14:47] <Zaitzev> I said I got Windows 8 and Ubuntu dual boot
[14:48] <sonda> not gedit
[14:48] <Zaitzev> I never stated that I found a tutorial on ntfs resizing ;)
[14:48] <sonda> like onenote
[14:48] <ajxier_> Zaitzev: how did you do that?
[14:48] <sonda> i should be able to write anywhere
[14:48] <bazhang> !equivalents | sonda
[14:48] <Zaitzev> ajxier_:  Well, I formatted the drive first and foremost, since I like to start fresh when doing anything OS
[14:48] <ikonia> write anywhere ?
[14:49] <ikonia> you want a note taking app - that you can write antwhere ???
[14:49] <ajxier_> Zaitzev: I have warrnaty..
[14:49] <ikonia> what's wrong with a simple text editor ?
[14:49] <bazhang> he wants some 'portable app'
[14:49] <ikonia> portable ?
[14:49] <ikonia> portable to what ?
[14:49] <Zaitzev> ajxier_: Read through this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported
[14:49] <cfhowlett> cross platform > portable
[14:49] <Zaitzev> If he installs it on a laptop it's portable :D
[14:49] <bazhang> read the link I gave you sonda
[14:49] <ikonia> gvim
[14:49] <ikonia> you can use that on both
[14:50] <faaz> ok but i was scared not to be able to install WordNet on ubuntu 14.04 at all and need to chang to 12.04
[14:50] <ikonia> isn't there a nano port too
[14:50] <ajxier_> Zaitzev: I'm about reading this
[14:50] <sonda> but i don't find note taking app there
[14:51] <bazhang> faaz, just complete the update, no need to completely change version, whihc will means many many more updates
[14:51] <ajxier_> sonda: go to ubuntu ubuntu software
[14:51] <jellow> faaz: you can compile just better you use package manger, just create the directory that ./configure wants
[14:51] <bazhang> !info wordnet | faaz install this
[14:54] <faaz> bazhang, i dont know what do you mean by these signes : !blabla | blabla
[14:54] <akronix> hi, what's up with eclipse? there has been past years without being updated to the main repository!!!
[14:54] <auronandace> faaz: that is a message to the bot to tell you something
[14:54] <auronandace> !bot
[14:55] <bazhang> faaz, complete the update: STEP ONE
[14:55] <faaz> bazhang,ok ok :)
[14:55] <bazhang> faaz sudo apt-get install wordnet : step two
[14:55] <akronix> and there's no even a ppa to add for this
[14:56] <bazhang> !eclipse
[14:56] <kate_> auronandace: the output of apt-get update:
[14:56] <kate_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063090/
[14:56] <bazhang> akronix, what does their website have
[14:57] <kate_> auronandace: Are you still there?
[14:58] <kate_> jellow: Are you there?
[14:58] <auronandace> kate_: it seems you still haven't disabled the chrome repo
[14:59] <OerHeks> Dees Iran ( ir.archive.ubuntu.com)  allow you to use chrome?
[14:59] <OerHeks> *does
[15:00] <ikonia> allow you ? it's a website
[15:00] <bazhang> chrome is a google product/repo
[15:00] <bazhang> not in the ubuntu repos, in other words
[15:00] <kate_> auronandace: software center do not launch, I don t know why
[15:01] <OerHeks> ikonia, i noticed that, but direct download from google servers i mean.
[15:01] <jellow> kate_: can you open terminal
[15:01] <kate_> auronandace: I think the problem stems from sofware center
[15:01] <kate_> jellow:
[15:01] <kate_> yes
[15:02] <jellow> kate_: do you have pastebinit installed?
[15:02] <jellow> !info pastebinit | kate
[15:02] <ikonia> because it is on google servers
[15:03] <kate_> Is it the same "pastebin"?
[15:03] <jellow> kate_: yes will be faster to help you if you have it installed
[15:04] <auronandace> kate_: pastebinit is just a commandline tool so you can paste to a pastebin directly from the terminal
[15:05] <kate_> auronandace: How to install it?
[15:05] <auronandace> kate_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:05] <jellow> kate_: close software manager and synatpic
[15:05] <kate_> jellow: ok ;)
[15:05] <sachin>  I JUST installed the ubuntu studio
[15:06] <sachin> want to know short cut kes
[15:06] <sachin> keys
[15:07] <sachin> how to get ubuntu studio shortcut keys
[15:07] <bazhang> sachin shortcut keys for what exactly
[15:07] <harris> what is the dd command to burn iso to usb
[15:08] <sachin> general
[15:08] <kate_> jellow: I get Unment Dependencies error, while installing pastebinit
[15:08] <sachin> for termimal
[15:08] <sachin> file folder
[15:08] <sachin> etc
[15:08] <jellow> kate_: pastebin the full error and the command you ran
[15:08] <bazhang> sachin,  are you referring to bash commands in the terminal?
[15:08] <sachin> exactly
[15:09] <sachin> i just switched to ubuntu studio from lubuntu
[15:09] <bazhang> sachin, those are not ubuntu studio related
[15:09] <auronandace> harris: sudo dd if=/wherever/iso/is of=/wherever/devicename/of/usb
[15:09] <sachin> so how to go
[15:10] <bazhang> sachin, you need to some reading up on that, theres no way possible to list every bash command here on irc
[15:10] <kate_> jellow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063289/
[15:10] <auronandace> harris: so if your usb is /dev/sdb then: sudo dd if=/home/username/Downloads/whatever.iso of=/dev/sdb
[15:10] <sachin> give me link
[15:10] <bazhang> link to what sachin
[15:11] <auronandace> harris: it is very important you get the device name correct or you could overwrite something badly
[15:11] <sachin> from where to read
[15:11] <sachin> the commands
[15:11] <bazhang> http://www.tldp.org  <-- sachin
[15:12] <kate_> jellow: I assert that the software center does not launch and I don t have synoptic
[15:12] <jellow> kate_: first things first I recommend you take a backup of important files before upgrading.
[15:13] <kate_> jellow: Yes, of course... but what is the problem now
[15:13] <kate_> ?
[15:13] <kate_> let me give u the link for update output:
[15:14] <Voyage> I just upgraded to latest kubuntu. I have one external display that I only use. Not the laptop one. I do not see how to disable or turn of the laptop display (there was a checkbox before in the display setting in the older kubuntu.
[15:14] <edvaldoscruz> Boa tarde a todos. Alguém sabe me dizeronde localiza a pasta do relógio no sistema do ubuntu ?
[15:14] <kate_> jelow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063337/
[15:14] <kate_> jellow:
[15:14] <nith1210> kate_: /msg ubottu !spanish
[15:14] <bekks> !br | edvaldoscruz
[15:14] <nith1210> woops,
[15:15] <sachin> its too much bazhang
[15:15] <edvaldoscruz> ok
[15:15] <kate_> jellow: Are still with me?
[15:15] <sachin> i mean i have to read a lot
[15:15] <bazhang> sachin, there are other places on the internet for that, its not an ubuntu specific issue so search for it
[15:15] <auronandace> kate_: you still have the chrome repo in there
[15:16] <sachin> yes right
[15:16] <sachin> thank you very much will go on it now
[15:16] <sachin> good day
[15:16] <nith1210> kate_: check out the folder /etc/apt/sources.list.d. Do you have "google-chrome.list" ?
[15:16] <sachin> if i want to mail to you
[15:16] <kate_> I tried to launch software center to assert it is disabled, but it does not launch
[15:16] <kate_> auronandace
[15:16] <sachin> where i can get your mail id Bazhang
[15:16] <jellow> kate_: looks like sources.list is little mixed up likely from upgrading
[15:17] <herch> Hi
[15:17] <herch> Trying out systemd for the first time for launching containers.
[15:17] <bazhang> sachin, thats not needed at all
[15:17] <herch> Getting this error, Failed pull image: The name org.freedesktop.import1 was not provided by any .service files
[15:17] <herch> while executing, machinectl pull-dkr --verify=no mattdm/fedora
[15:17] <sachin> ok good day
[15:17] <herch> This is on ubuntu 15.04.
[15:17] <jellow> kate_: can you output to pastebin sudo apt-get install -s -f
[15:17] <herch>  anyone got a clue?
[15:17] <sonda> anyone know of handwriting note taking app for ubuntu?
[15:18] <kate_> nith1210: thank you
[15:18] <herch>  I just want to see how docker containers can be run using systemd
[15:18] <kate_> nith1210: yes it was in the folder
[15:18] <kate_> Now what to do?
[15:19] <auronandace> kate_: you could either remove it or open the file and comment out the repo by putting # before it
[15:20] <nith1210> kate_: move it to "google-chrome.list.save" - anything but a ".list"
[15:20] <nith1210> kate_: next: sudo apt-get update
[15:20] <nith1210> kate_: and pastebin the results please
[15:21] <kate_> jellow: The output of sudo apt-get install -s -f:
[15:21] <kate_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063440/
[15:22] <auronandace> kate_: nith1210's suggestion is better than mine
[15:23] <Voyage> Can I  downgrade the existing kubuntu.
[15:24] <auronandace> !downgrade | Voyage
[15:24] <Voyage> great
[15:24] <Voyage> I just upgraded to latest kubuntu. I have one external display that I only use. Not the laptop one. I do not see how to disable or turn of the laptop display (there was a checkbox before in the display setting in the older kubuntu.
[15:27] <kate_> nith1210: You mean override google-chrome.list.save by google-chrome.list?
[15:27] <ioria> Voyage you previous version of Ubuntu ?
[15:28] <auronandace> kate_: nith1210 wants you to rename google-chrome.list to google-chrome.list.save
[15:28] <nith1210> kate_: I mean rename google-chrome.list to something else which doesn't end in ".list". If there is already a google-chrome.list.save, I'd delete it.
[15:28] <ioria> Voyage your previous version of Kbuntu ?
[15:29] <vitimiti> Voyage, there's a #kubuntu channel
[15:29] <kate_> nith1210: and also there is a google-chrome.list.distUpgrade
[15:30] <nith1210> kate_: You can ignore that
[15:30] <kate_> nith1210: What to do with it?
[15:30] <kate_> nith1210: ok
[15:30] <Voyage> ioria, 14.10 I guess
[15:30] <kate_> nith1210: so i deleted google-chrome.list.save and rename google-chrome.list to something not ending with .list
[15:31] <Voyage> vitimiti,  yes there is
[15:31] <kate_> nith1210: ok?
[15:31] <nith1210> kate_: perfect, next "sudo apt-get update"
[15:31] <ioria> Voyage Nvidia Optimus ?
[15:31] <Voyage> ioria,  Intel graphics I beleive
[15:32] <Voyage> ioria,  but the point is that in the old kubuntu I saw the option to disable. not in current
[15:32] <Voyage> ioria,  is there anything else be done?
[15:32] <ioria> !search kde-workspace-randr
[15:33] <ioria> !find kde-workspace-randr
[15:34] <kate_> nith1210: here is the output of apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063645/
[15:35] <nith1210> kate_: that tells me you have synaptic or the software center open
[15:35] <auronandace> kate_: still got a package manager running?
[15:36] <ioria> Voyage try with this : kde-workspace-randr
[15:37] <Apachez> looks like google chrome stable 42.x has broken hwaccel with intel hd graphics (5000 in my case) and ubuntu 15.04, anyone else noticed this (workaround is to disable attempt to use hwaccel in the bottom of advanced settings in chrome://settings) ?
[15:37] <ioria> !find kscreen
[15:37] <ioria> Voyage or with this : kscreen
[15:38] <kate_> nith1210, auronandace: No, How to make sure there is no package management running behind the scenes?
[15:38] <nith1210> kate_: if you type "jobs" does it come back with something?
[15:39] <auronandace> kate_: you could check the output of ps aux
[15:40] <ubuntuser> hi. can you help me pls? my xorg.conf got corrupted, and after i did an automatic rebuild of the file, vga connection goes crazy: when i attach vga monitor to my laptop, both displays go black, and when i detach it, many of the labels on the screen have got smaller (like if dpi suddenly decremented). my settings show only one lvds screen, no vga, as well as nvidia x server settings utility. how do i fix it?
[15:41] <jellow> kate_: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock and try sudo apt-get update again
[15:41] <kate_> Inith1210, auronandace: ran SUDO apt-get update and the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063761/
[15:41] <leonic> !translator
[15:41] <leonic> !language
[15:41] <kate_> nith1210: command "jobs" did not return anything
[15:41] <jellow> !aptlock | kate_
[15:42] <OerHeks> i386 + amd64 sources ... ?
[15:42] <nith1210> kate_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[15:43] <kate_> jellow: doing what you said
[15:44] <auronandace> kate_: deleting the lock should only be done as a last resort
[15:45] <myth5> jellow,logout
[15:45] <kate_> nith1210: sadly sudo apt-get install pastebinit returns error
[15:45] <nith1210> kate_: indicating that there's more to fix. What's the new error?
[15:45] <ubuntuser> sorry to ask, but any advice on my issue?
[15:45] <kate_> auronandace: what do u mean?
[15:47] <auronandace> kate_: you shouldn't run the command "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock" unless you really need to (in the event that some package management definitely crashed)
[15:47] <kate_> auronandace: But I ran the command :( Is it really bad?
[15:48] <kate_> nith1210: u want the output for pastebinit
[15:48] <kate_> ?
[15:48] <nith1210> kate_: yes please
[15:48] <auronandace> kate_: the lock is there to ensure that only one package management process is managing packages at a time, otherwise if you are using multiple ones the database will get corrupted
[15:49] <kate_> nith1210: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063841/
[15:50] <sandro_> \list
[15:50] <sandro_> !list
[15:51] <nith1210> kate_: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:51] <nith1210> kate_: (you forgot the sudo last time)
[15:51] <auronandace> kate_: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:52] <ubuntuser> guys.
[15:52] <ubuntuser> are my messages invisible?
[15:52] <ubuntuser> or something is unclear in them and i should rewrite it?
[15:52] <auronandace> ubuntuser: people can only reply if they know the answer
[15:52] <nith1210> ubuntuser: They're not. xorg.conf are fairely difficult. !patience
[15:52] <kate_> nith1210, auronandace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063899/
[15:52] <ubuntuser> all right
[15:53] <ioria> if he purges sources.list.d ?
[15:54] <auronandace> kate_: were you in the middle of an update when all this started happening?
[15:54] <nith1210> those are warnings, they'll have no effect.
[15:54] <nith1210> It's the unable to lock which is the problem.
[15:54] <nith1210> auronandace: I believe it was an upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04
[15:55] <ioria> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf , then ?
[15:55] <auronandace> nith1210: yeah, it looks like a botched upgrade
[15:55] <nith1210> kate_: Would you please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list (it's a file)
[15:56] <kate_> auronandace: no
[15:56] <auronandace> !xorg | ubuntuser
[15:58] <kate_> nith1210: you are so kind :) this is sources.list content: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11063973/
[15:59] <ioria> all is clear , now
[16:00] <nith1210> kate_: thanks, I'm a proud Canadian. Your sources.list reverted to 12.04. Try a "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[16:01] <ioria> kate_  lsb_release -a, out of curiosity ?
[16:02] <ikonia> bad idea
[16:02] <nith1210> kate_: hold up, don't do that.
[16:02] <nith1210> ikonia: why not?
[16:02] <ikonia>  because you've ald
[16:02] <ikonia> already done the damage
[16:03] <nith1210> ikonia: won't a do-release-upgrade flip the sources.list to 14.04 and continue with the package installations?
[16:03] <ikonia> no
[16:03] <ikonia> you will already be in conflict
[16:03] <reality_> I'm not able to connect to tor network, it didn't work in ubuntu 14.04 LTS and now i have installed 15.04 and it still not working. no browser is connecting to 127.0.0.1 on port 9050 or 9150
[16:04] <ikonia> 127.0.0.1 is your own machine
[16:04] <reality_> tor browser bundle also not connecting
[16:04] <ikonia> not the network
[16:04] <ikonia> it won't connect to 127.0.0.1 as there is nothing listening
[16:04] <reality_> ikonia there is tor network
[16:05] <ikonia> no there is not
[16:05] <nith1210> ikonia: conflict in what sense? She's got a certain set of packages with versions 12.04 doesn't know about which means she's in a bad state now.
[16:05] <ikonia> 127.0.0.1 is localhost
[16:05] <ikonia> nith1210: maybe I'm missing part of the story, but it looks like a bodged maual upgrade
[16:05] <reality_> ikonia: yes, i think you don't know about tor
[16:05] <ikonia> I do
[16:05] <auronandace> !tor | reality_
[16:06] <ikonia> connecting to localhost is poitnless if you are not on the network
[16:06] <ikonia> as any listening services like tor will have no where to forward to
[16:06] <nith1210> ikonia: tried to upgrade using the gui, chrome repo seems to have stopped apt from installing everyhing it needed to and halted the upgrade.
[16:06] <ikonia> so it will be in conflict
[16:06] <ikonia> with partial upgrade packages
[16:07] <nith1210> right, but after her dpkg-configure -a (which has already been done) she now has a mix of old and new packages. Why plugging the new repos in and apt-get -f install *should* fix current dependencies, then she could continue with a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[16:07] <nith1210> ikonia: no?
[16:08] <ikonia> I disagree
[16:08] <ikonia> but try it
[16:08] <auronandace> she's gone
[16:09] <nith1210> So she is, and my professional curiousity burns... but that's offtopic XD
[16:09] <jellow> hmm wonder if she will have X if she reboots.
[16:10] <sonda> anyone know of handwriting note taking app
[16:10] <nith1210> doubt it
[16:10] <ikonia> gedit
[16:10] <sonda> we can write via wacom tablet?
[16:10] <reality_> ikonia: ubottu: auronandace: i have used this guide word by word to install tor (( https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en )). and this guide word by word to install tor browser bundle (( https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en#linux )). but tor browser and not even my firefox connect to tor when i set it's sox proxy to 127.0.0.1 and port to 9050 or 9150,
[16:11] <ikonia> reality_: first get your network up
[16:11] <ikonia> then confirm ports are listening on 127.0.0.2
[16:11] <ikonia> sorry .1
[16:11] <ikonia> then deal with problems
[16:11] <ikonia> before then anything else is posntless
[16:11] <ikonia> pointless
[16:11] <reality_> ikonia? what are you talking about? my network is up. i'm talking to you from same machine :/
[16:12] <ikonia> ok - so your network is up
[16:12] <ikonia> are there any daemons listening/bound to 127.0.0.1
[16:12] <Xilver> hello
[16:13] <mamed> hello guys. how can i change the icon of a spesific directory. well i mean i want to do some changes that whenever i create a directory named foo for example its icon should be changed automatically
[16:13] <reality_> ikonia i don't know, how can i know that? i just installed ubuntu 15.04 fresh and installed tor and tor browser bundle on it, nothing else installed yet
[16:14] <ikonia> is the tor daemons running
[16:14] <Xilver> bye
[16:15] <nith1210> !help
[16:15] <reality_> ikonia: tor is supposed to listen on localhost:9050 or 9150 to proxy my internet, but my default firefox does not work on that port and tor browser bundle also don't connect.
[16:15] <ikonia> that isn't what I asked
[16:15] <ikonia> I know how it works
[16:15] <ikonia> are the tor daemons started
[16:15] <reality_> ikonia: i don't know how to check if tor deamons are running or not, i'm new to linux
[16:15] <mamed> i think i should go to gnome room
[16:15] <ikonia> ok - then you don't need tor
[16:16] <Doyle> Hey. where are the OS installation logs?
[16:16] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[16:16] <ikonia> Doyle: /var/log
[16:16] <reality_> ikonia: i need tor :/
[16:17] <Doyle> sure, /var/log, but which one? it's not syslog
[16:17] <ikonia> its made up of multiple logs
[16:17] <ikonia> eg: the dpkg log for the package installs (for example)
[16:17] <Doyle> ah, gotcha
[16:17] <Doyle> Thought there might have been one neet and tidy log file
[16:17] <akronix> !patience
[16:18] <jellow> reality_: can't you just use Tor Browser unless you're looking to host a hidden service should not need tor itself
[16:18] <resc_user_5766> hello
[16:18] <resc_user_5766> Can someone help me out?
[16:19] <reality_> Jellow: you mean tor browser bundle also contain tor in it? and i don't need to install tor differently?
[16:19] <mamed> how does ubuntu icon theme system match directories with the corresponding icons?
[16:19] <auronandace> resc_user_5766: we don't know your issue yet
[16:19] <jellow> reality_: yes
[16:19] <reality_> Jellow: but in tor installation guide for ubuntu, the first step is to install tor and then tor browser bundle
[16:20] <jellow> reality_: use this guide https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en#linux
[16:20] <reality_> jellow: i will also use tor in other online browsers or chat clients etc
[16:21] <TFG-TT> tor brws contain all,just run it
[16:21] <reality_> jellow: the guide you are showing is what i followed, it is the second step in tor installation guide
[16:22] <jellow> reality_: so ./start-tor-browser.desktop does not open firefox and connect you tor?
[16:23] <resc_user_5766> delete my kernels and now I try to go right through Rescatux but do not let me reinstall my grub or dropping down I go with older versions of kernel
[16:24] <ikonia> how did you delete your old kernels ?
[16:24] <reality_> jellow: when i start tor browser, it just goes on connecting forever, and it never connect, i tried to use bridges but it does not connect at all, but normally tor is working on my network (i mean on my internet connection tor is not blocked, it works everywhere else)
[16:25] <ikonia> bridges ?
[16:25] <resc_user_5766> I have the log where it says what happens when you try to install grub. (copy and paste the result of the log?)
[16:25] <ikonia> how did you delete your old kernels ?
[16:26] <ioria> autoremove ?
[16:26] <resc_user_5766> synaptics
[16:26] <ikonia> let him answer
[16:26] <ikonia> resc_user_5766: ok- then there is no need to reinstall gru
[16:26] <ikonia> grub
[16:27] <resc_user_5766> :(
[16:27] <Ziber> If I run a DHCP server on my home linux box, can I distribute addresses from two different subnets to each host?
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Ziber: if the hosts have 2 nice, or you use sub interfaces then yes
[16:28] <ikonia> why are you reinststalling grub ?
[16:28] <auronandace> resc_user_5766: if for some reason you want to boot an older kernel you can reinstall them from synaptic
[16:29] <Ziber> ActionParsnip: Sub interface?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Ziber: yes
[16:29] <Ziber> What does that mean?
[16:29] <ioria> there is also a meta-package sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[16:29] <dhrosa> am I going insane, or is ubuntu only using one of my 12 cores?
[16:29] <jellow> reality_: perhaps something is hogging the port then again no idea, is something already listening on the ports?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Ziber: your physical ethernet port can have multiple IP addresses using software
[16:30] <resc_user_5766> but I can not get into any version of onscreen grub
[16:30] <ikonia> dhrosa: it will use what it needs
[16:30] <dhrosa> I've noticed my system monitor never shows anyhing on more than 1 core, and my emacs redraw is extremely slow, and multi-threaded compilations have been locking up my system
[16:30] <dhrosa> yet more than 1 core is never in use
[16:30] <ikonia> resc_user_5766: when you boot - what do you see
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> dhrosa: what is output of: uname -a
[16:30] <resc_user_5766> MBR...
[16:31] <ikonia> what do you actually see - with your eyes
[16:31] <dhrosa> Linux burrito 3.19.0-16-generic #16-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 30 16:09:58 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:31] <dhrosa> it also takes a few seconds for a terminal to open
[16:31] <reality_> jellow: i have no idea bro, i yesterday fresh installed ubuntu 14.04 LTS but tor was not working on that so i today fresh installed ubuntu 15.04 just for tor, but tor is not working in it too. the installation is fresh, i selected full disk encryption during installation, if that make any problem to tor?
[16:31] <ikonia> why did you re-install just for TOR ?
[16:31] <ikonia> if it was working why did you re-install ?
[16:32] <zerowaitstate> Ziber: are both subnets on the same VLAN? Because that's usually not a good idea
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> dhrosa: if you run: cat /proc/cpuinfo      do you see many cores?
[16:32] <Ziber> zerowaitstate: No, they're not.
[16:32] <reality_> ikonia: i said it was not working thats why i installed latest ubuntu
[16:32] <resc_user_5766> and then I appear w7 and options for linux.
[16:32] <resc_user_5766> But it says that the file does not exist when I open the option of Ubuntu Linux.
[16:32] <ikonia> resc_user_5766: what ?
[16:32] <Ziber> Basically, what I'm going to do, is set my home router to dhcp relay to my server, and I want to distribute addresses in two VLANs.
[16:32] <dhrosa> ActionParsnip: yep, 12 of them
[16:32] <ikonia> when you first boot the machine - what do you see
[16:33] <resc_user_5766> sorry my english is very poor
[16:33] <dhrosa> ActionParsnip: in reality 6 with hyperthreading, but whatever
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> dhrosa: great :-)
[16:33] <zerowaitstate> Ziber: yeah, it's possible to serve DHCP in different subnets. One way is to have a subinterface for each VLAN on the DHCP box. Another way is to server DHCP only on one subnet and let the router tunnel broadcast-to-unicast via an ip-helper configuration
[16:33] <dhrosa> I just recently installed 15.04, I had been on 14.10 for a while
[16:33] <zerowaitstate> Ziber: yeah, that's doable
[16:34] <Ziber> And what if I only want to static DHCP assignments for a few hosts, or maybe just even one (maybe just my laptop).
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> dhrosa: if you run htop do you see the cores being used?
[16:34] <zerowaitstate> Ziber: that has to be done from the DHCP server config. The router just tunnels requests. It doesn't care about individual assignments
[16:35] <dhrosa> hmm, I do see all of them under slight lode
[16:35] <dhrosa> load*
[16:35] <ioria> resc_user_5766 dual boot with win 7 ?
[16:35] <zerowaitstate> Ziber: you pin the MAC address to the IP address assignment. They're called reservations
[16:35] <Ziber> Right, yeah.
[16:35] <reality_> maybe if someone can troublshoot my tor please? i need it
[16:35] <jellow> reality_: Check your system clock. If it's more than a few hours off, Tor will refuse to build circuits.
[16:35] <dhrosa> my much weaker laptop running 15.04 isn't having these problems, i'm confused
[16:36] <ikonia> dhrosa: what is the actual problem you think you're having
[16:36] <ikonia> lets cut to the chase ?
[16:36] <reality_> jellow: no it's exactly on current time,
[16:36] <dhrosa> ikonia: emacs screen redraw is unbearably slow, multi-threaded compile jobs lock up my system when they didn't do that on 14.10, spawning a terminal if emacs is redrawing takes forever
[16:36] <dhrosa> ikonia: dragging windows is taking forever
[16:37] <ikonia> dhrosa: ok - type "top" in a shell, press the number one and take a screen shot of the output and post it for me please
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> dhrosa: is this after the upgrade from Utopic to Vivid?
[16:37] <dhrosa> I did a clean install, but yes I used to use utopic
[16:37] <reality_> jellow: can you tell me how to see if tor deamon is running? and if it's connected to tor or not?
[16:37] <jellow> reality_: are there logs in /var/log/tor/ ? Not sure if browser logs there
[16:37] <zerowaitstate> Ziber: the router has to support being a dhcp relay agent, however
[16:37] <Ziber> It does.
[16:37] <dhrosa> wtf... it's suddenly better
[16:37] <ikonia> shock horror
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> reality_: ps -ef | grep -i tor
[16:38] <Ziber> I just have to figure out, through ubuntu, how to serve multiple subnets to each client.
[16:38] <Rik> asd
[16:38] <admin3> hi
[16:38] <zerowaitstate> Ziber: the clients must have multiple interfaces
[16:38] <admin3> how can i install eclipse j2ee via get-apt?
[16:38] <dhrosa> let's see if i can get this to happen again
[16:38] <Ziber> They won't just take both and put one on a virtual interface?
[16:38] <ikonia> dhrosa: please give me the screenshot I asked for
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> !find eclipse
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> !eclipse
[16:39] <admin3> how ?
[16:39] <dhrosa> ikonia: http://imgur.com/6FTDx43
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> admin3: did you search software centre
[16:39] <zerowaitstate> Ziber: if the interface is vlan tagged, you can run dhcp on each VLAN enabled on that trunk. you cannot have multiple subnets in the same broadcast domain in dhcp
[16:39] <ikonia> dhrosa: you didn't press the number 1
[16:40] <dhrosa> oops
[16:40] <admin3> yes but could't find
[16:40] <VorCrytic> how?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> admin3: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81341/install-eclipse-ide-for-java-ee-dev-via-apt-get-is-it-possible
[16:41] <dhrosa> ikonia: http://i.imgur.com/4Jhpo7s.png
[16:41] <zerowaitstate> for example, if your home router has a vlan trunk port running to a switch that understands vlan tagging, and the clients all have vlan-tagged trunk ports to the switch, you have several "virtual" lans between the router and each client. in that case, you could run dhcp on each one of those "virtual" lans and it would work
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> admin3: https://ccainj.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/install-eclipse-for-j2ee-developers-in-ubuntu/
[16:41] <admin3> i tried that but i want to install directly eclipse j2ee
[16:41] <ikonia> dhrosa: ok - so your SMP aware, so anything that doesn't spread the load across multiple cores is an application fault, not an OS fault
[16:42] <zerowaitstate> however, you should not run multiple subnets on the SAME vlan, because the VLAN is how the DHCP server distinguishes betwee subnets
[16:42] <dhrosa> ikonia: it wasn't isolated to any one program, but the problem suddenly went away a few minutes ago
[16:42] <dhrosa> trying to figure out how to repro
[16:42] <Ziber> They're different broadcasts. 10.192.100.0/23 and 172.23.135.96/27
[16:43] <auronandace> dhrosa: what is multiload-apple?
[16:43] <dhrosa> auronandace: no idea
[16:43] <dhrosa> auronandace: oh it's a gnome taskbar system monitor applet
[16:43] <dhrosa> i think it said "applet" but was cutoff
[16:43] <auronandace> ahh
[16:44] <auronandace> thought it was some sort of apple software :)
[16:44] <dhrosa> so did I, and I was concerned for a second :p
[16:47] <MrElendig> auronandace: you most likely have apple software on your machine
[16:48] <dhrosa> it's terminal. you're going to have to euthanize it
[16:48] <auronandace> MrElendig: they do make a contribution to many projects (like cups) but that is a discussion for another  channel
[16:48] <MrElendig> auronandace: contribute/own/
[16:49] <reality_> ActionParsnip jellow i have logs but i'm not able to paste them in pastebin or pastie, something wrong with their servers
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> reality_: tried the pastebinit script?
[16:50] <auronandace> reality_: you saying your log is too large to paste?
[16:51] <reality_> auronandace no it's not too large, but pastebin gives error: The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.      The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
[16:52] <reality_> ActionParsnip what was the purpose of that command you gave me? ps -ef | grep -i tor
[16:52] <auronandace> reality_: to see it in your process list
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> reality_: shows if there are any commands with the letters "tor" in..
[16:53] <reality_> auronandace: ActionParsnip: there comes many lines with tor in them, tor is in red color
[16:54] <reality_> i can't use pastebin or pastie, let me see if i can paste it somewhere else
[16:54] <jellow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/ works for me.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> reality_: yes, that's the idea :-)
[17:00] <reality_> ActionParsnip it is strange i can go to all text pasting sites and can paste my text there, but can't publish them, all of them gives errors when i post my text :/
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> reality_: not sure. Try a few services
[17:02] <harishkrupo> i am interested to know how  update-grub detects the name of the distribution
[17:07] <harishkrupo>  i am interested to know how  update-grub2 detects the name of the distribution
[17:07] <reality_> ActionParsnip how to private chat you? i will show you my log in private chat, i can't paste it on any text sharing sites :(
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> reality_: I don't need the log. If you see processes running then it's ok
[17:08] <reality_> ActionParsnip so why i can't use tor? no browser connect to tor?
[17:08] <reality_> ActionParsnip how can i see if my tor is connected to tor network?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> reality_: no idea. I don't use tor.
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> reality_: I think it's a waste of time
[17:09] <reality_> ActionParsnip: no i use it, it's very important to me
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> reality_: why?
[17:10] <harishkrupo> does anybody know how update-grub2 detects the name of the distribution?
[17:10] <k1l_> harishkrupo: look at the grub scripts.
[17:11] <reality_> ActionParsnip: so many reasons, security, privacy, and i use public cable net connection which is a lan, and many sites including youtube are blocked in my country i need to open them, and many others
[17:11] <harishkrupo> @k1l_ where are they located?
[17:11] <rik_ferreira> hello, how can i improve the boot time in ubuntu gnome?
[17:11] <k1l_> harishkrupo: /etc/grub.d/
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> reality_: but you are swapping one unknown network (the Internet) for another (tor) how does this improve security?
[17:11] <kokut> So, i have a defective mouse, it clicks twice almost instantly (with a delay of less than 0.2 seconds, is there a possibility to only allow mouse clicks with 0.3 second difference or something?
[17:11] <k1l_> rik_ferreira: buy a ssd
[17:12] <rik_ferreira> hahah
[17:12] <rik_ferreira> im serious
[17:12] <k1l_> rik_ferreira: its hard to tell if you dont provide informations on what is "blocking" etc
[17:12] <rik_ferreira> i need general information
[17:12] <rik_ferreira> sorry my bad english
[17:12] <rik_ferreira> im br
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> rik_ferreira: uninstall unnecessary services.
[17:13] <OerHeks> rik_ferreira, use bootchart to find out what takes so long
[17:13] <OerHeks> !bootchart
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> rik_ferreira: how long does the system take to boot?
[17:13] <iLoveLobster> Anyone know there way around mdadm?
[17:13] <rik_ferreira> about 30 seconds
[17:13] <OerHeks> and remove it after use
[17:13] <iLoveLobster> Need some help rebuilding an array from an older system
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> rik_ferreira: and how many times do you boot in a week?
[17:14] <OerHeks> 30 sec + wireless is not that long
[17:14] <autopoiesis> how can i connect to this irc from pidgin?
[17:14] <reality_> ActionParsnip: i can use internet anonymously and access the sites and information which government does not want us to see
[17:14] <reality_> ActionParsnip: you might not understand that if you live in a free countary :/
[17:14] <almark> put your stuff on a fine ssd rik_ferreira
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> reality_: how do you know what happens inside the tor network?
[17:14] <almark> you'll be impressed how fast your system will boot
[17:15] <rik_ferreira> yes, its not that long, but i'll try the bootchart
[17:15] <rik_ferreira> thank you guys
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> reality_: I understand accessing sites not accessible before  but it certainly isn't any more secure
[17:15] <autopoiesis> how can i connect to this irc from pidgin?
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> autopoiesis: add an account using the inconvenience protocol. Set the server to irc.freenode.net
[17:16] <someonemad> https://www.archlinux.org/news/filesystem-upgrade-manual-intervention-required-1/ what is the ubuntu equivalent to this??? i'm trying to fix this systemd thing that won't let me boot!!!
[17:16] <reality_> ActionParsnip: lets not have a debate if tor is any different then a normal network in security, but i find it better to stay anonymous online. and i can protect my stuff by encryption when it leaves my pc,
[17:16] <reality_> ActionParsnip: im here to take any help to get my tor running
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> reality_: that's why we have https
[17:17] <vanishing> :q
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> !tor
[17:17] <someonemad> "error getting authority error initializing authority could not connect no such file or directory"
[17:17] <reality_> ActionParsnip: what good is an https if the site tracks you and gives your identity to your government?
[17:17] <iLoveLobster> can anyone point me in the right direction on help with mdadm?
[17:17] <someonemad> "Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)"
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> reality_: do you seriously think tor is a complete cover?
[17:19] <kokut> Hello, i have a defective mouse, it clicks twice almost instantly (with a delay of less than 0.2 seconds, is there a possibility to only allow mouse clicks with 0.3 second difference or something?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> iLoveLobster: I'd just make a new array then reinstate the data from your backups
[17:19] <reality_> ActionParsnip: yes i think so, or atleast it makes it difficult,
[17:20] <someonemad> "Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)" this is a policykit issue according to the systemd developer, i really need help trying to get my pc to boot!!!!
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> reality_: so why don't all Web paedophiles use it and never get caught?
[17:20] <autopoiesis> ActionParsnip: i get this buddie list thing, is my first time using pidgin, i used IRC protocol and put irc.freenode.net as server... but get nothing?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> reality_: it's not a complete cover at all. You are deluded
[17:20] <ioria> someonemad, are prompted to a command ?
[17:21] <reality_> ActionParsnip: on what bases do you make that claim?
[17:21] <_guest_> whats a good video making program?
[17:21] <someonemad> ioria: not at all, it only gives it to me when it says "Welcome to emergency mode!"
[17:21] <someonemad> after 5 minutes..
[17:21] <OerHeks> autopoiesis, did you see our wiki ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pidgin#Configuring_Pidgin_for_Ubuntu_IRC
[17:21] <vitimiti> reality_, even the tor page warns you that it's not a complete cover
[17:22] <vitimiti> reality_, and it also depends on the people using tor near you
[17:22] <zerowaitstate> reality_: tor really only defeats traffic analysis. a government agency can run a honeypot over tor as easily as over a regular network. that's why political activists are harder to catch than pedophiles
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> reality_: because the Web is monitored for stuff like that and authorities are sent in to apprehend. How do you think they find Dave Wrong with thousands of inappropriate images?
[17:22] <ioria> someonemad, but do you have a prompt ?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> reality_: again deluded
[17:23] <someonemad> i'm getting into one hopefully
[17:23] <reality_> vitimiti: yes thats true, thats what i said, atleast it makes it difficult to identify you, until you are doing a serious crime, nobody is going to give a damn to search and trace your identity from tor
[17:23] <autopoiesis1> thank you OerHeks!
[17:23] <ioria> someonemad, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:23] <HotSwap> iLoveLobster, if all disks are available, an mdadm --assemble --scan --verbose should do it and tell you whats happening.  though if you dont have backups, id read up on man mdadm and be careful :)
[17:24] <someonemad> ugh, okay so in recovery mode it's giving me that same freaking error g-io-error-quark, 1
[17:24] <someonemad> ioria: i have to wait 5 freaking minutes now
[17:24] <someonemad> JUST to get to a prompt
[17:25] <autopoiesis1> my nickname changed tho
[17:25] <reality_> ActionParsnip: then what do you suggest to people? to just give up on securing themselves and not struggle ?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> reality_: realise that you are always watched. It helps the Web
[17:26] <k1l_> autopoiesis1: you can only have a nickname once and not from 2 different clients at the same time
[17:26] <autopoiesis1> i'm gonna try reconnect
[17:26] <reality_> ActionParsnip: if everyone starts using tor will it not help protecting our identity?
[17:26] <autopoiesis1> tiat
[17:26] <autopoiesis1> kek
[17:26] <k1l_> autopoiesis1: "/nick newnick"
[17:27] <autopoiesis> thank you :)
[17:27] <k1l_> !irc | autopoiesis
[17:27] <someonemad> i think i understand why most people hate systemd now
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> reality_: a little but  not as far as you seem to think.
[17:28] <someonemad> ioria: are you still here?
[17:28] <ioria> yup
[17:29] <someonemad> okay good, still loading to a prompt still
[17:29] <reality_> ActionParsnip: zerowaitstate: vitimiti: anyways, thanks for having this chat, i must find a way to get tor running. see you next time, i will go and install other linux where tor is running.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> reality_: as you wish. Ubottu gave a guide to install it.
[17:30] <HotSwap> reality_, didn't you get enough help for installing tor here?
[17:31] <HotSwap> action isnt being any help, but the bot's pasta was useful
[17:31] <someonemad> blah, screw recovery mode, just gonna hard reset and brb in 10 minutes
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> HotSwap: little tip, I triggered Ubottu. She only responds to triggers
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Hots
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> HotSwap: so, by proxy,  I was helpful
[17:33] <fiZLik> hello
[17:33] <HotSwap> ActionParsnip, protip: stop being condescending and giving tips and unwanted advice
[17:34] <fiZLik> i need some help about permissions
[17:34] <HotSwap> i know how bots work, and reality specifically asked not to debate the usefulness of tor
[17:34] <fiZLik> how to add write,read and delete permission to some folder?
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> HotSwap: the guy wanted to install tor. I gave the official document for Ubuntu on how to install it. How is that "unwanted advice"?
[17:35] <fiZLik> i tried with sudo chmod 777 /patch/to/folder
[17:35] <ioria> chmod   u, g, a +(or -) r, w, x
[17:35] <fiZLik> and patch at the end
[17:36] <zykotick9> fiZLik: note, you can't use POSIX permissions on FAT or NTFS volumes...
[17:36] <someonemad> ioria: okay got a prompt
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: was about to ask that
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> fiZLik: is the folder on an NTFS partition?
[17:36] <ioria> someonemad, cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: ;)
[17:36] <someonemad> it says "Welcome to emergency mode! After logging in, type "sournalctl -xb" to view system logs.."
[17:36] <someonemad> okay
[17:37] <someonemad> it says /usr/sbin/lightdm
[17:37] <someonemad> ioria: ^^^
[17:37] <someonemad> that's for unity on ubuntu
[17:37] <fiZLik> ActionParsnip: sorry i dont know
[17:38] <ioria> someonemad, try sudo systemctl enable lightdm.service  -f
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> fiZLik: what is the folder you are manipulating?
[17:38] <fiZLik> some lampp folder
[17:38] <wok12> hello everyone, time display has disappeared from my upper bar, and the clock tab in system settings is grayed. what could be happening? how can I correct it?
[17:38] <someonemad> it gives me a bunch of error initializing authority's
[17:38] <fiZLik> i cant delete topics on the forum
[17:39] <someonemad> No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)
[17:39] <OerHeks> fiZLik, only admins can do that.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> fiZLik: that will reduce security drastically
[17:39] <autopoiesis> wok12 that's a common ubuntu bug
[17:39] <fiZLik> yeah im admin of forum
[17:39] <autopoiesis> google's third search result is the answer
[17:39] <thenewone> Hi guys
[17:39] <OerHeks> fiZLik, ubuntuforums?
[17:39] <thenewone> sup
[17:39] <fiZLik> no
[17:40] <wok12> with which search word?
[17:40] <someonemad> ioria: please don't tell me i have to reinstall..
[17:40] <fiZLik> my personal forum
[17:40] <OerHeks> fiZLik, oh, then it is not an ubuntu issue. see your forum software manual for a howto
[17:40] <autopoiesis> wok12: on terminal:
[17:40] <autopoiesis> killall unity-panel-service
[17:40] <fiZLik> yes
[17:41] <fiZLik> i need to add permission for the folder where is my forum installed
[17:41] <fiZLik> for deleting
[17:41] <autopoiesis> wok12 i literally just searched time disappear ubuntu and the second result on google was this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/371374/where-did-the-menu-bar-clock-go/371387#371387
[17:41] <ioria> someonemad, do you have a windows partition ?
[17:41] <someonemad> nope, but i do have a separate /home partition
[17:41] <fiZLik> i have lampp server installed on ubuntu
[17:41] <someonemad> with btrfs
[17:42] <someonemad> on a separate hard drive
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> autopoiesis: Google search results change user to user due to the bubble
[17:42] <wok12> autopoiesis, sorry for asking without knowing, but sounds like killing all panel activity, no?
[17:42] <ioria> someonemad, did you put it in fstab ?
[17:42] <someonemad> ioria: that was the only way i could get it on my separate hard drive, so yes
[17:42] <autopoiesis> it is, even though it works as a reset
[17:42] <wok12> would that not kill other needed processes?
[17:43] <autopoiesis> but it would reset them all
[17:43] <ioria> someonemad, maybe is your fstab ruined.you can boot from live mount rw and comment the line
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> autopoiesis: http://dontbubble.us/ explains the Google bubble well
[17:43] <someonemad> hmm.. alright
[17:43] <autopoiesis> have no fear man, it wouldn't be the most upovoted answer on askubuntu if it wasn't the right one
[17:43] <wok12> ok :)
[17:44] <autopoiesis> that was a beautiful link ActionParsnip, thank you, i actually use duckduckgo as my default search engine, but most people aren't sofa kings like me haha
[17:44] <wok12> oh, yes, it is back right away, autopoiesis. thank you very much!
[17:45] <autopoiesis> i helped, yei!
[17:45] <fiZLik> someone know how to add read,write and delete permission or is it right permission "sudo chmod 777 /patch/to/folder/"
[17:46] <jParkton> it is binary math
[17:46] <jParkton> 755 is usually good
[17:46] <jParkton> 644 for hosting
[17:46] <fiZLik> i tried that
[17:46] <jParkton> what is the issue?
[17:47] <fiZLik> lampp server and forum installed on it
[17:47] <someonemad> ioria: what do i do when i boot into the live environment/
[17:47] <OerHeks> fiZLik, what forum software?
[17:47] <fiZLik> myupb
[17:48] <fiZLik> forum..myupb.com
[17:48] <jParkton> fiZLik: that is way too complex, some folders will need 644, some 655, some 755
[17:48] <autopoiesis> if i click conversation->join a chat->join will i log off of this chat?
[17:48] <jParkton> isnt there some install docs?
[17:48] <fiZLik> ok
[17:48] <fiZLik> i will try all of that
[17:48] <fiZLik> thx
[17:48] <ioria> someonemad, first find your partition (sudo fdisk -l) then mount --options remount,rw / , mount partition , modfy fstab, unmount and reboot
[17:49] <jParkton> autopoiesis: no clue, unknown client, unknown all that try it and see
[17:49] <fiZLik> i tried with 777 and 755
[17:49] <jParkton> dont use 777
[17:49] <fiZLik> why?
[17:49] <OerHeks> 777 might have broken the forumsoftware
[17:49] <saegeoff> hey has anyone noticed ppa.launchpad.net is returning a 404?
[17:49] <autopoiesis> jParkton, i' actually sorry i asked such a stupid question instead of just trying
[17:49] <autopoiesis> it didn't, btw
[17:50] <fiZLik> i install forum with 777
[17:50] <bekks> fiZLik: Thats the most insecure install possible then.
[17:50] <k1l_> saegeoff: please put a "sudo apt update" into a pastebin
[17:50] <fiZLik> ok
[17:50] <fiZLik> thx for info
[17:50] <skies> new here.....any information on how to play around the command line will be appreciated\
[17:50] <nkooo83> yo
[17:50] <jParkton> autopoiesis: nice :)
[17:51] <jParkton> skies: open/type
[17:51] <aramil> can someone help me please im trying to update my lubuntu install from 14.04 to 15.04 and it gets stuck at Removing conflicting operating system files
[17:51] <jParkton> aramil: can you paste the exact error on a pastepad somewhere?
[17:52] <zykotick9> aramil: fyi, you'd need to go 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04...
[17:52] <saegeoff> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/9qKDuWWR
[17:52] <aramil> its the version my dad burned for me because my grub broke so my pc cant boot at all
[17:53] <k1l_> saegeoff: that is not the end, right?
[17:53] <saegeoff> i piped to a file
[17:53] <saegeoff> let me see
[17:53] <bekks> aramil: you need to update to 14.10 before you can update to 15.04
[17:53] <jParkton> ohhh
[17:53] <jParkton> did you edit your sources?
[17:54] <saegeoff> k1l_: there was a W: Failed to fetch ... and then 404.. nothing else
[17:54] <k1l_> saegeoff: but as you can see, its not ppa.launchpad.net but its the ppas you use that error. because the ppa is not available anymore or doesnt have trusty packages at all.
[17:54] <k1l_> saegeoff: so check your ppas
[17:54] <aramil> i just want to fix my grub and i thought upgrading will do it because boot-repair did not work
[17:55] <saegeoff> l1l_: oh, I didn't realize.  Thanks for that info
[17:55] <autopoiesis> aramil: it probably will
[17:55] <autopoiesis> aramil: but you need to go 14.10 first, then 15.04
[17:55] <saegeoff> k1l_: thanks.. that makes sense.  Do you have any good sources I could read more about apt?  I am not new to linux but I only know enough about apt to get by
[17:55] <autopoiesis> oh, someone already said that
[17:55] <aramil> is there anyway to fix it with out upgrading?
[17:56] <thenewone> use pacman it's faster than apt
[17:56] <saegeoff> isn't pacman for arch?
[17:56] <jParkton> aramil: no idea what is really going on without actual errors
[17:56] <jParkton> yes it is
[17:56] <k1l_> thenewone: stop that nonsense
[17:56] <jParkton> for real
[17:56] <thenewone> lol
[17:57] <k1l_> !apt | saegeoff
[17:57] <saegeoff> I've used arch.. I thought it was a great learning experience and I ran it for about 6 months, but I gave it up because my goal is to program on linux and not debug an OS
[17:57] <jParkton> Muon is horrible
[17:57] <saegeoff> Ubuntu isn't perfect but it is much more stable than Arch IMO and Ubuntu gets great support since it is popular.  That is why I use Ubuntu.
[17:57] <aramil> i will load up the installer again to check for errors
[17:57] <jParkton> ok
[17:58] <aramil> windows 10 is evil because my boot loader broke after i removed it
[17:58] <autopoiesis> arch is for learning and spending a lot of time doing a lot of simple things in just easy 45 steps
[17:59] <jParkton> Yeah stop installing Linux kindasorta
[17:59] <jParkton> install and remove winblows
[17:59] <ejuan> aramil, i unplug my ubuntu hard drive when i install windows then plug it back in after and use the bios to select whatever os i want to boot.
[17:59] <aramil> how do i share a screen shot on here?
[17:59] <saegeoff> @auto, I agree.   Arch is great for learning how it all works but it is a huge distraction.  The guys I know disagree with me, never update their packages once it is stable for them. So I really can't use their "stability" as a proof that it works great
[18:00] <SchrodingersScat> !screenshot | aramil
[18:00] <jParkton> aramil: are you on the computer with the issue?
[18:00] <autopoiesis> there's a lot of arch elitism on r/unixporn haha they're super funny about it tho
[18:00] <aramil> http://imgur.com/4kLU7IM
[18:01] <k1l_> guys, lets stick to actual ubuntu support in here. we have #ubuntu-offtopic for the other chat
[18:01] <ioria> ejuan: you have uefi ?
[18:01] <ejuan> ioria, yeah
[18:01] <ioria> ejuan: and you didn't run update-grub ?
[18:02] <ioria> ejuan: after reinserting the ubuntu disk, i mean
[18:02] <arcsky> if i set IP address on my eth0 interface with ifconfig. why does it lost its address after some time?
[18:02] <ejuan> accually I think my ubuntu install is not efi, its just legacy bios, now that I think about it.
[18:03] <jParkton> arcsky: dhcpclient?
[18:03] <ejuan> but I can do a update-grub no problem after a kernel update.
[18:03] <aramil> so i might of broke ubuntu if you look at the pic i sent it says its unknown
[18:03] <ioria> ejuan: ok, that's interesting :-)
[18:04] <Floobynooby> Hi! Work laptop, no admin privs; trying to make a bootable USB thumb drive. Have ubuntu .iso. Have thumbdrive. No have admin privs. Any hope?
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> saegeoff: I wouldn't say it teaches you that much. Gentoo is a whole different kettle of fish
[18:04] <jParkton> aramil: that may be due to Lubuntu rather than Ubuntu
[18:04] <arcsky> jParkton: ps aux |grep dhcpclient doesnt running
[18:04] <jParkton> arcsky: that might be the issue
[18:04] <bodhi_zazen> ejuan, when you upgrade the kernel with apt-get it should run update-grub automagically
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: is unetbootin installed?
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: or USB disk creator?
[18:05] <jParkton> aramil: why not just install
[18:05] <jParkton> or is there some really important stuff
[18:05] <Floobynooby> Action: Nope! Can't install without Admin privs. Portable version can't run without admin privs, either.
[18:06] <aramil> well i have my steam games, game saves and a bunch of other stuff
[18:06] <Floobynooby> Nor USB Disk Creator
[18:06] <Floobynooby> It's a generic work windows laptop.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: have you checked in Dash? Ubuntu comes with a disk creator application by default
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: oh windows
[18:07] <Floobynooby> yeah: Oh, Windows!
[18:07] <harishkrupo> ActionParsnip, even disk creator requires root or admin priv
[18:07] <Floobynooby> Windows can burn an .iso to DVD, but of course that's not bootable.
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: doesn't the PenDriveLinux application work in Windows?
[18:07] <Zai-Cesuo> hello ubuntu channel! where do i need to go if i need someone to help me out with a little problem?
[18:08] <Floobynooby> harishkrupo: yes, every trick I've tried requires admin privs.
[18:08] <aramil> floobynooby: how about trying wubi?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: burning to DVD will make a bootable DVD
[18:08] <bekks> Zai-Cesuo: You already are there :) Just ask your question.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> aramil: Wubi is dead
[18:08] <harishkrupo> Floobynooby, yes the stage where you will need to install syslinux requires root
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> aramil: Wubi hasn't been developed for THREE years now...
[18:08] <Floobynooby> ActionParsnip: Ah! Well that's what I'll try then.
[18:09] <Zai-Cesuo> thank you! I have just made the major decision to stop with the virtual ubuntu box and properly"
[18:09] <harishkrupo> Floobynooby burning to dvd should work
[18:09] <Zai-Cesuo> install it. unfortunately it doesnt show up my "windows 7" in the boot up anymore
[18:09] <aramil> yes but wubi will allow him to boot into ubuntu make a liveusb there
[18:09] <bazhang> !wubi | aramil
[18:10] <k1l_> you dont need to install wubi to make a live usb then.
[18:10] <bazhang> see the message above aramil Do NOt Use Wubi
[18:11] <Floobynooby> Harishkrupo, ActionParsnip: Thanks, will try burning to dvd, then boot into linux, then make a proper usb from there. (Pendrive points to UUi, which requires admin privs.) Thank you both!!!
[18:11] <Zai-Cesuo> the day before yesterday i plugged in a new SSD alongside my HDD. My HDD already had a windows 7 home version. And my SSD got a new Windows ultimate version (everything 64 bit). Now installed ubuntu onto the SSD. In the startup it shows me ubuntu and Windows 7. Unfortunately only the HDD one. Can i do anything about it?
[18:11] <Caleb--> hi
[18:11] <Caleb--> has anyone experienced random reboots with ubuntu 15.04?
[18:12] <bekks> Caleb--: How does a poll solve your actual problem?
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Floobynooby: if you have burned the DVD right you will see many files. If you see only one then you have not burned the file correctly. Also if you extracted the file like so many Windows users do, this is also incorrect
[18:12] <harishkrupo> Floobynooby, why need pendrive when you have a live system?
[18:12] <Caleb--> i don't know if this is ubuntu 15.04 or the samsung 840 evo firmware upgrade that's causing them as i upgraded both pretty much at the same time
[18:12] <k1l_> Caleb--: see the logs for what is going on. there is not a "general reboot issue" with 15.04
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Caleb--: have you tested your RAM health using Memtest86 from Grub?
[18:12] <Caleb--> yes
[18:12] <Caleb--> RAM is ok
[18:12] <Caleb--> i already had a corrupted filesystem because of a reboot, so i formatted again
[18:13] <bekks> Caleb--: Why didnt you repair the FS instead?
[18:13] <Caleb--> bekks,  i did, but lots of files seemed to be corrupted
[18:13] <aramil> so is there anyway for me to fix my boot loader without installing 15.04 because im on a livecd right now
[18:14] <kdzar> hi i have a question with upgrading to 14.04
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> aramil: OmgUbuntu has a guide called "sticking it to Grub"
[18:14] <jParkton> kdzar: what is the issue?
[18:15] <kdzar> jParkton its not recommended i do it via ssh, what do i do it with?
[18:15] <jParkton> is it your server?
[18:15] <k1l_> kdzar: what machine is it?
[18:15] <kdzar> its a vps
[18:15] <aramil> no it looks like my lubuntu install broke because when i run the installer it says unknown linux distro
[18:15] <jParkton> dont worry about that, just ssh in and upgrade
[18:15] <kdzar> jParkton u sure :o nervous
[18:16] <jParkton> kdzar: yeah it usually is fine
[18:16] <kdzar> what do u think k1l_ ?
[18:16] <k1l_> kdzar: if all goes wrong it could leave the system in a state where you need to reset/reinstall it from the recovery. but since you dont have physikcal access to most servers you need to upgrade them over ssh
[18:16] <jParkton> I think once maybe 5 years ago one went bad on me but that was the only time I ever saw
[18:16] <k1l_> kdzar: have a backup
[18:16] <jParkton> ^
[18:17] <kdzar> k1l_ i dont even know how to make a backup
[18:17] <jParkton> if it is digital ocean there is a backup on their side
[18:17] <k1l_> !backup | kdzar
[18:17] <kdzar> besides diskspace issue
[18:17] <jParkton> kdzar: just upgrade lol
[18:17] <k1l_> kdzar: and see if your hoster got some backup solutions for your setup already
[18:17] <autopoiesis> sdd backup, because best backup.
[18:17] <jParkton> it will be fine
[18:17] <kdzar> ok
[18:17] <kdzar> i wont do it know
[18:17] <Floobynooby> harishkrupo: On windows, have no admin privs. Would like to boot laptop into Ubuntu and leave the machine untouched;  work in Ubuntu with persistence. Problem: on the road with only the windows laptop. How to boot this machine into Ubuntu without changing anything but one of the two thumbdrives I have? Once in Ubuntu, I can follow howtos and create a persisitent installation with storage on thumbdrive, and just boot into that wh
[18:17] <Caleb--> k1l_, i looked in journalctl, but i don't see anything helpful. just logs about my cron jobs and then suddenly a "-- Reboot --"
[18:17] <kdzar> have to reseash this do release upgrade over ssh
[18:18] <jParkton> that is a digital ocean script
[18:18] <k1l_> Caleb--: see syslog and the old syslog.0 or syslog.1 in /var/log
[18:18] <jParkton> you can just sudo su and apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[18:18] <kdzar> why not do release?
[18:19] <k1l_> dont do sudo su on ubuntu
[18:19] <jParkton> it is just a script digitalocean puts on their droplets
[18:19] <nith1210> Floobynooby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[18:19] <jParkton> it is the exact same thing as dist-upgrade -y
[18:19] <jParkton> k1l_: really? Why not?
[18:19] <kdzar> do-release-upgrade
[18:19] <Floobynooby> harishkrupo: so it looks like the solution is, burn .iso to DVD with windows' built-in command. That should take no admin privs. Then boot from DVD and I'm in Ubuntu and in the clear.
[18:19] <k1l_> jParkton: env variables.
[18:19] <jParkton> weird
[18:19] <kdzar> surely making usb bootable is easier
[18:20] <k1l_> sudo -i for that
[18:20]  * jParkton is on Kubuntu
[18:20] <jParkton> so different a little
[18:20] <aramil> cant i install ubuntu on a different partition  then more my home folder to it then remove my reinstall my old ubuntu then more the stuff back?
[18:20] <jParkton> aramil: not really
[18:20] <Zai-Cesuo> hm so nobody here who could help me with the grub problem?
[18:20] <Floobynooby> nith1210: will check that out, thank you. Once I get into Ubuntu I will have more options. Right now, in windows and can't change this machine;
[18:21] <kdzar> i think i should run it from console
[18:21] <kdzar> what is the ubuntu equivialent of "F8"
[18:22] <k1l_> kdzar: f8?
[18:22] <Floobynooby> kdzar: easier, but you need Windows admin privs it turns out. yumi, uui, a few other tools--either won't install without admin privs or, can install a portable version that asks for elevation when it runs (as it attempts to change boot sectors I bet. makes sense.)
[18:22] <aramil> so its looking like i will have to do a complete reinstall and lose everything :(
[18:22] <kdzar> yeah like safe mode for windows k1l_
[18:22] <EriC^^> aramil: what is your problem?
[18:22] <k1l_> kdzar: that is called recovery.
[18:22] <kdzar> oh ok
[18:23] <k1l_> kdzar: but that doesnt help you on "how to upgrade a server install"
[18:23] <kdzar> so ssh is safe?
[18:23] <jParkton> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[18:23] <kdzar> do-release-upgrade over ssh ?
[18:23] <jParkton> good lord
[18:23] <aramil> eric: http://imgur.com/4kLU7IM
[18:23] <jParkton> just do it ffs
[18:24] <OerHeks> aramil, so lubuntu does not know what windows, as windows 10 is not released
[18:24] <kdzar> ok another thing i wanted to know was i had server and added the gui, how do i remove the gui
[18:24] <EriC^^> aramil: you're installing lubuntu next to what?
[18:24] <k1l_> kdzar: the warning for "ssh upgrade could be unsafe" is always given until you drive to the physiical server and attach a keybord and monitor. so not matter where you connect through ssh, there is always the issue that ssh could cut off.
[18:24] <aramil> eric: that unknown os is my lubuntu 14.04 install
[18:24] <phunyguy> jParkton: would you mind not using the nsfw acronyms, please?
[18:24] <kdzar> k1l_ if cut off, how do i fix
[18:24] <EriC^^> aramil: so you want to reinstall lubuntu?
[18:24] <k1l_> kdzar: and if there is important data or important services you really want to have a backup
[18:25] <aramil> eric: no because i have alot of stuff i dont want to lose
[18:25] <EriC^^> aramil: what's the main problem?
[18:26] <bazhang> !home | aramil
[18:26] <kdzar> thanks k1l_ and jParkton
[18:27] <aramil> eric: my pc would not boot and then when i try to fix it from the livecd by upgrading it it got stuck at the installer and then when i quit it then try it again it shows whats in that pic
[18:27] <Caleb--> k1l_, bekks, it's a false alarm. i just looked at the uptime of my firewall box and it went down as well... probably a power outage
[18:28] <harishkrupo> aramil, could you send that pic again?
[18:28] <aramil> http://imgur.com/4kLU7IM
[18:30] <ioria> aramil before losing grub, what have you done ?
[18:30] <harishkrupo> aramil, do u know where it got stuck while upgrading? did you see the output?
[18:31] <aramil> no i did not
[18:31] <EriC^^> aramil: which ubuntu did you have?
[18:31] <aramil> lubuntu 14.04
[18:31] <EriC^^> and which did you try to upgrade too?
[18:31] <harishkrupo> aramil, can you mount the partition and see the files?
[18:32] <aramil> yup
[18:32] <EriC^^> aramil: you tried upgrading to 14.10 using the live cd?
[18:33] <aramil> no because when i asked my dad to burn me a cd he burned a 15.04 one
[18:33] <EriC^^> ok, and what did you press in the installer?
[18:33] <EriC^^> you can't upgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 directly
[18:34] <harishkrupo> aramil, cant you backup the data and do a fresh install
[18:34] <aramil> cant i use chroot or something to it and repair it manually?
[18:35] <harishkrupo> aramil, yes but we need to know what the problem is first
[18:35] <capradmar> After installing Ubuntu on my laptop, I have the grub minimal bash-like
[18:35] <capradmar> I can't boot to my systems (elementaryos and ubuntu)
[18:36] <EriC^^> ok
[18:36] <aramil> i do have a 250gb partition with win7 cant i backup my stuff to it by removing win7?
[18:36] <xpand> aramil: channel is ubuntu?!
[18:36] <EriC^^> aramil: & capradmar boot a live usb
[18:36] <harishkrupo> aramil, yes you can
[18:37] <capradmar> EriC^^: when trying to boot from usb,  I still have this grub minimal bash like
[18:37] <EriC^^> capradmar: the live usb too?
[18:37] <EriC^^> are you sure it's booting?
[18:37] <aramil> eric: im running a livecd right now
[18:37] <EriC^^> hold shift to get grub
[18:37] <capradmar> it did before installation
[18:38] <EriC^^> aramil: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and paste here
[18:38] <EriC^^> capradmar: maybe it's not booting anymore
[18:38] <aramil> http://termbin.com/ra9m
[18:38] <capradmar> EriC^^: I pressed shift without success
[18:38] <capradmar> I will try to remake my live usb
[18:38] <EriC^^> capradmar: ok
[18:39] <EriC^^> aramil: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[18:40] <aramil> done
[18:40] <EriC^^> ok type ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[18:40] <EriC^^> does the dir exist?
[18:40] <aramil> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 0 May 10 08:49 /sys/firmware/efi
[18:40] <EriC^^> ok, it's kind of odd you don't have an efi partition, unless it's that 25gb fat32
[18:41] <EriC^^> aramil: do you know what sda1 is?
[18:41] <aramil> i think /dev/sda1 is supposed to be efi
[18:42] <EriC^^> aramil: type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[18:42] <aramil> done
[18:42] <EriC^^> type ls -l /mnt/boot/efi
[18:42] <EriC^^> is there an EFI dir?
[18:43] <aramil> total 16
[18:43] <aramil> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 May  9 07:58 lost+found
[18:43] <EriC^^> what else is in there?
[18:43] <aramil> thats it
[18:43] <EriC^^> type ls -la /mnt/boot/efi
[18:43] <aramil> total 24
[18:43] <aramil> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 May  9 07:58 .
[18:43] <aramil> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root  4096 May  6 21:08 ..
[18:43] <aramil> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 May  9 07:58 lost+found
[18:44] <EriC^^> ok, try ls -la /mnt/boot/efi/lost+found
[18:44] <aramil> ls: cannot open directory /mnt/boot/efi/lost+found: Permission denied
[18:45] <EriC^^> try with sudo
[18:45] <aramil> total 20
[18:45] <aramil> drwx------ 2 root root 16384 May  9 07:58 .
[18:45] <aramil> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root  4096 May  9 07:58 ..
[18:46] <EriC^^> ok, is /boot all there? type ls -l /mnt/boot
[18:46] <EriC^^> is there a grub dir and initrd and stuff?
[18:46] <aramil> yup
[18:46] <EriC^^> ok, i think we should first make sda1 an efi partition first, and then reinstall grub
[18:47] <ozzy1013> Hello ¿Some one?
[18:47] <aramil> ok
[18:47] <EriC^^> unless anyone has any suggestions..
[18:47] <EriC^^> aramil: type cat /mnt/etc/issue
[18:48] <aramil> cat: /mnt/etc/issue: No such file or directory
[18:49] <EriC^^> aramil: ok, that's not good
[18:49] <EriC^^> aramil: type sudo umount /dev/sda1
[18:49] <aramil> done
[18:49] <EriC^^> type sudo efibootmgr -v
[18:49] <aramil> sudo: efibootmgr: command not found
[18:50] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[18:51] <aramil> what do i do after sudo efibootmgr -v
[18:51] <EriC^^> type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:52] <aramil> http://termbin.com/fji6
[18:53] <EriC^^> aramil: type cat /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:53] <EriC^^> i'm trying to see how you used to boot lubuntu
[18:53] <aramil> http://termbin.com/52t9
[18:55] <Zai-Cesuo> hey guys. one last try here.. anyone who can help me with  grub and UEFI-windows problems?
[18:55] <EriC^^> aramil: type sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:56] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, yes
[18:56] <aramil> http://termbin.com/teu0
[18:56] <EriC^^> aramil: it looks like the efi partition is gone
[18:57] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, what is the problem
[18:57] <Zai-Cesuo> harishkrupo: thanks! well I have some struggles. I have a windows home edition on my HDD.. now i got an SSD and installed windows 7 ultimate (64bit) on it. On the same SSD is now ubuntu. Grub only shows the HDD windows though
[18:57] <aramil> i have no clue how that happened
[18:57] <EriC^^> aramil: i'm afraid the root fs is also different
[18:57] <EriC^^> aramil: type ls -l /home
[18:57] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, try running update-grub2
[18:57] <EriC^^> aramil: sorry, ls -l /mnt/home
[18:58] <EriC^^> is your user still there?
[18:58] <aramil> yes
[18:58] <EriC^^> ok, cool
[18:59] <EriC^^> aramil: type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[18:59] <hadifarnoud> why $> sed -i 's/<\/body>/\&/' *.html gives me "command i expects \ followed by text"
[18:59] <al2o3-cr> !find weechat
[18:59] <Zai-Cesuo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11066532/ thats what i get.. i tried sudo update-grub before.. and it didnt work
[18:59] <Zai-Cesuo> is grub 2 any different?
[19:00] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: what's the problem?
[19:00] <Zai-Cesuo> harishkrupo: thanks! well I have some struggles. I have a windows home edition on my HDD.. now i got an SSD and installed windows 7 ultimate (64bit) on it. On the same SSD is now ubuntu. Grub only shows the HDD windows though
[19:00] <aramil> um that command is confusing idk what to put in
[19:00] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, update-grub will actually call update-grub2
[19:00] <EriC^^> aramil: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[19:00] <Zai-Cesuo> hm so that is not the solution then..
[19:00] <EriC^^> aramil: paste the whole thing
[19:01] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, is windows installed on efi on the ssd?
[19:01] <Zai-Cesuo> yes
[19:01] <aramil> mount: mount point /mnt/dev does not exist mount: mount point /mnt/dev/pts does not exist mount: mount point /mnt/proc does not exist mount: mount point /mnt/sys does not exist
[19:01] <Zai-Cesuo> i need to boot it in UEFI.. if thats what you mean.. i dont know what that means though
[19:01] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, ok then try boot repair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:02] <EriC^^> aramil: type ls -l /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:02] <EriC^^> aramil: i think you have to backup your home and reinstall, it's pretty messed up
[19:02] <aramil> http://termbin.com/kh3w
[19:03] <Bray90820> So I can't seem to get my samba share working on 15.04 it worked fine for like a day but now no computers can connect to it
[19:03] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, in bios settings you generally have option to choose boot from legacy or uefi
[19:03] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: can you type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:03] <Zai-Cesuo> i will try that eric
[19:03] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: you need to have an .efi file in an efi partition for uefi, for both versions of windows
[19:03] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: paste the link here when you do
[19:04] <Jarot> hi
[19:04] <EriC^^> aramil: ok, at least your home dir is there
[19:04] <aramil> yea
[19:05] <EriC^^> aramil: how big is it? type du -sh /mnt/home
[19:05] <Zai-Cesuo> there you go eric http://paste.ubuntu.com/11066678/
[19:06] <aramil> 284G	/mnt/home
[19:06] <Zai-Cesuo> and to harishkrupo, yes i can choose UEFI in the boot menu. if i only choose the SSD, it usually doesnt even start Windows. I need to choose UEFI boot
[19:06] <Zai-Cesuo> I will install bootrepair meanwhile..
[19:06] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: the second windows installation is installed in legacy mode
[19:06] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: it's useless
[19:06] <Zai-Cesuo> what does that mean?
[19:07] <EriC^^> it means you had legacy mode and you installed windows and ubuntu in uefi mode
[19:07] <Zai-Cesuo> is that bad? I am too much of a noob to understand
[19:07] <EriC^^> so now you can only boot those 2, unless you switch the bios to legacy, and put that disk first in the list, then you can only boot the second windows installation
[19:07] <EriC^^> aramil: ok
[19:08] <EriC^^> do you have another hdd or something to put /home in?
[19:08] <aramil> nope only have the one hd
[19:08] <iBeatBlaxx> who invented buffer overflows?
[19:08] <Zai-Cesuo> so i need to go into the boot menu and switch to legacy? and put the SSD first on the list?
[19:08] <ioria> aramil can you ls  lost+found ?
[19:08] <aramil> ?
[19:09] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: that is not a ubuntu support issue, is it?
[19:09] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: no, you need to install ubuntu and windows in legacy mode, or reinstall the second windows in uefi mode
[19:09] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, you are able to boot into ubuntu and windows( of sdb ) right?
[19:09] <iBeatBlaxx> well, i found a buffer overflow in 15.04 but i am curious as to who invented the technique
[19:10] <Zai-Cesuo> that would mean i lose all my data... :( (except i put it somewhere first)
[19:10] <Zai-Cesuo> harishkrupo: what does sdb mean? I can boot into ubuntu without any probllems
[19:11] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, u can boot into windows which is in hard drive or ssd?
[19:11] <ioria> aramil ls -a  /mnt/lost+found
[19:11] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: hmm this is odd
[19:11] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: grub finds the legacy windows in sdb but not the uefi in sda
[19:11] <Zai-Cesuo> Grub only lets me boot the HDD windows. Ubuntu and Windows ultimate are on the SSD
[19:11] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, looks like grub is detecting windows which was installed in legacy
[19:11] <aramil> lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ sudo ls -a  /mnt/lost+found
[19:11] <aramil> .  ..
[19:11] <EriC^^> that's so odd
[19:11] <iBeatBlaxx> i wouldn
[19:12] <harishkrupo> EriC^^, yup thats odd
[19:12] <iBeatBlaxx> i wouldn't install ubuntu on an hdd
[19:12] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, first try boot repair
[19:12] <Zai-Cesuo> and i got no clue how i even installed the wrong way.. how do i choose to install in uefi or legacy mode?
[19:12] <iBeatBlaxx> just use a vm if you're running a windows computer
[19:12] <Bray90820> So I can't seem to get my samba share working on 15.04 it worked fine for like a day but now no computers can connect to it
[19:12] <iBeatBlaxx> grub messes everything up
[19:12] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: that is not right. please dont spread that
[19:12] <harishkrupo> Zai-Cesuo, boot repair should fix most of the problems
[19:12] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: if legacy mode is enabled in the bios, it usually boots the live usb in that mode and installs accordingly
[19:12] <Bray90820> Connect to my samba share that is
[19:12] <Zai-Cesuo> ibeatblaxx: i did that before, but i wanted to have the option to boot either of them
[19:13] <Zai-Cesuo> ah i see..
[19:13] <Zai-Cesuo> i never changed anything in my bios ever though..
[19:13] <iBeatBlaxx> k1l_: when i uninstalled ubuntu, grub was deleted too and then i had no windows bootloader
[19:13] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: that is as intended
[19:13] <Zai-Cesuo> damnit! i might have! I updated my bios when i got the SSD... cuz it couldnt find it. might have changed the standard settings..
[19:13] <iBeatBlaxx> i wasn't able to reinstall a bootloader to my windows partition and i lost everything on my hard disk
[19:13] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: you need to reinstall the windows bootloader again. or install grub in a way it works without an installed ubuntu.
[19:14] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: if legacy mode is enabled in the bios, it usually boots the live usb in that mode and installs accordingly
[19:14] <EriC^^> crap
[19:14] <EriC^^> typo
[19:14] <Zai-Cesuo> well eric, i will try to get the boot repair working.. maybe that fixes everything..
[19:14] <ioria> aramil seems you have lost dev, etc, proc and sys, or are on another partition
[19:15] <EriC^^> aramil: you can resize your partition using gparted, and make a separate /home to back up the data, but resizing a partition is usually safe but who knows
[19:15] <EriC^^> aramil: or you could make leave it empty with just /home and not format the hdd in the installer, but i have no idea if the installer would leave everything in /home intact
[19:15] <EriC^^> *maybe
[19:16] <EriC^^> aramil: best option would be to get another hdd and backup your stuff there then reinstall
[19:16] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: ok
[19:16] <ioria> Eric^^ how it happened, in your opinion  ?
[19:16] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: are you in ubuntu right now?
[19:16] <EriC^^> ioria: he tried installing and it went wrong mid way
[19:16] <ioria> yup
[19:17] <EriC^^> but i think that shows that the installer leaves /home in tact, or it hadn't started touching it yet
[19:17] <aramil> eric: i could just make a 300gb partition move my /home there then do a reinstall then move it back am i right?
[19:17] <Zai-Cesuo> shall i just run the recommended reparation?
[19:17] <harishkrupo> yes
[19:18] <Zai-Cesuo> there goes nothing... thanks in advance and lets see what happens
[19:18] <EriC^^> aramil: yeah you could, but i mean it's your data, there's always a risk with partitioning and stuff
[19:18] <capradmar> EriC^^: I understood what happened: during installation, I create a swap drive on my usb stick :0)
[19:18] <Zai-Cesuo> "The current session is in Legacy mode. Please reboot the computer, and use this software in an EFI session. This will enable this feature. For example, use a live-USB of Boot-Repair-Disk-64bit (www.sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd), after making sure your BIOS is set up to boot USB in EFI mode."
[19:18] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: yeah that makes sense how grub found windows on sdb
[19:18] <aramil> so its ether doing that or lose everything then?
[19:18] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: are you in ubuntu right now?
[19:18] <EriC^^> or a live usb?
[19:18] <Zai-Cesuo> yes
[19:19] <Zai-Cesuo> i am on ubuntu
[19:19] <EriC^^> the installation not a live usb?
[19:19] <Zai-Cesuo> i installed it with a burned iso
[19:19] <Zai-Cesuo> if thats what you mean
[19:19] <EriC^^> you booted normally into it? not chrooted?
[19:19] <Guest72696> how can i see cpu usage on the bottom panel in LXDE?
[19:19] <Zai-Cesuo> i booted normally through the Grub. i simply chose ubuntu
[19:20] <EriC^^> ok now it makes sense, just noticed the bios grub partition
[19:20] <Zai-Cesuo> so what do i do now?
[19:20] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: ok, reinstall the windows ssd in legacy mode
[19:20] <EriC^^> and you should be good
[19:21] <Zai-Cesuo> nooo :(.... after all my hard work to install windows ultimate on there...
[19:21] <harishkrupo> or try changing to uefi mode and boot from ssd
[19:21] <Zai-Cesuo> i will try the uefi mode first
[19:21] <Zai-Cesuo> sounds like the easier way
[19:21] <EriC^^> yeah it should boot windows, but you'd have to change the bios mode every time you wanted to boot it
[19:21] <harishkrupo> that is true
[19:21] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: that's not a permanent solution..
[19:22] <Zai-Cesuo> damn
[19:22] <iBeatBlaxx> the best thing to do is always use a vm i don't get how people are still not using vms these days
[19:22] <iBeatBlaxx> snapshots are amazing
[19:22] <Zai-Cesuo> so if i reinstall windows.. should i "deintall" ubuntu first as well?
[19:22] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: no, just reinstall windows, but make sure you boot it in legacy mode
[19:22] <EriC^^> use its partitioner so it doesn't touch ubuntu, then reinstall grub using a live usb
[19:23] <harishkrupo> if you reinstall windows, it will over write mbr
[19:23] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:23] <Zai-Cesuo> Just to sum it up: Switch bios to from UEFI to legacy mode. put the Windows CD back in and install.. Grub will pop up and do what i want it to do?
[19:23] <harishkrupo> the use boot repair from live cd
[19:23] <MikeHunt> #gnome-ubuntu
[19:23] <harishkrupo> grub will not pop up
[19:23] <Zai-Cesuo> i see...
[19:24] <harishkrupo> you will have to boot into a live medium and use boot repair
[19:24] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: no, make sure windows doesn't boot in uefi mode, only legacy, and reinstall it using its partitioner, then your pc won't boot grub, so use a live usb to reinstall grub
[19:24] <Zai-Cesuo> i dont have a live usb... In the worst case i will come back here and get help for that if i cant find anything on google..
[19:24] <harishkrupo> live usb or DVD
[19:24] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: you can't do anything in that case
[19:25] <EriC^^> unless windows has a program that you can dd back the mbr if you copy it now
[19:25] <Zai-Cesuo> ah.. i got my DVD with ubuntu
[19:25] <EriC^^> something similar to dd
[19:25] <EriC^^> ok, you're all set then, just make sure windows boots in legacy mode
[19:26] <EriC^^> if in the partioner it mentions an efi partition, you know for sure it's trying to install in uefi mode
[19:26] <OverrRyde> afternoon everyone!
[19:26] <Zai-Cesuo> you guys were wonderful. it sounds like you guys know what you are doing. mad respect for you. hope i can learn some more soon as well. Thanks to you guys!
[19:26] <Zai-Cesuo> I will try it. Thanks everyone! I wont be doing that before tomorrow though.. its getting late..
[19:26] <EriC^^> Zai-Cesuo: it might say efi partition in the installer though cause you have one already..
[19:26] <EriC^^> ok
[19:27] <aramil> how much space does / need?
[19:27] <mgaunard> ubuntu 15.04 has been nothing but trouble, grub failed during installation and it didn't even say why
[19:27] <EriC^^> aramil: 20gb is good
[19:27] <mgaunard> apparently this is related to EFI
[19:27] <mgaunard> how do I install normal grub and not this EFI crap
[19:27] <Zai-Cesuo> lol you came to the right neighbourhood
[19:28] <mgaunard> I've managed to partially recover things
[19:28] <EriC^^> mgaunard: are you in a live usb right now?
[19:28] <mgaunard> but grub-install is unhappy because /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist
[19:28] <mgaunard> no I managed to boot on the partition after running boot-repair on it
[19:29] <EriC^^> ok, type ls -l /sys/firmware/efi
[19:29] <mgaunard> no such file or directory
[19:29] <EriC^^> ok, so you're in legacy mode
[19:29] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install grub-pc
[19:29] <mgaunard> thanks
[19:29] <aramil> im trying to resize stuff for reinstall but i cant unmount /mnt
[19:30] <iBeatBlaxx> aramil, this is why you should always install from a flash drive
[19:30] <mgaunard> the usb flash drive I used to boot was in uefi mode but not my main drive
[19:30] <EriC^^> aramil: are you in the dir?
[19:30] <aramil> no
[19:30] <EriC^^> aramil: close all terminals and type sudo umount /mnt
[19:30] <mgaunard> apparently this caused ubuntu to think it should use efi everywhere
[19:31] <aramil> umount: /mnt: target is busy
[19:31] <EriC^^> aramil: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done
[19:31] <EriC^^> i think none of them mounted earlier though
[19:31] <aramil> mount point not found for everything
[19:32] <EriC^^> type lsof | grep /mnt
[19:32] <aramil> ok now what
[19:34] <EriC^^> aramil: did it say anything?
[19:34] <aramil> nope
[19:35] <capradmar> EriC^^: I managed to repair my live usb, then I tried to install boot repair using this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:35] <aramil> wait gparted unmounted it
[19:35] <EriC^^> aramil: ok
[19:38] <iBeatBlaxx> capradmar: i wish i knew about boot repair before formatting all my drives and reinstalling everything
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> iBeatBlaxx  that's called a learning process
[19:46] <iBeatBlaxx> MonkeyDust: not when you have a lot of important files and memories from pictures and videos it's not
[19:46] <iBeatBlaxx> that's called torture
[19:47] <aramil> so when i create /home on a different  partition will it just have my /home folder on it?
[19:47] <ioria> no
[19:48] <ioria> you have to mount it
[19:48] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: data without a backup is not important data. its hard but that is the truth. if the harddisk got a hardware failure that data would be gone too.
[19:48] <Rainx> Anyone knows, if its possible to mount onedrive/skydrive library through curlftp or something else. "like you can map network drive to onedrive in windows using https://d.docs.live.net/"your CID number" ?
[19:48] <Flannel> aramil: You actually won't have "/home" in it, you'll have the stuff inside of /home (like your-user, someone-else, etc) in it.
[19:49] <iBeatBlaxx> k1l_: what is a good place to backup data?
[19:49] <aramil> so after i install ubuntu i mount lets say /dev/sda3 at /home?
[19:50] <ioria> no /home/rescue for example and to be stable you have to edit fstab
[19:50] <k1l_> iBeatBlaxx: other disk/location. there are thousands of ways and setups.
[19:50] <Flannel> aramil: You can actually do it all during the install process itself.
[19:51] <auronandace> iBeatBlaxx: an external harddrive is a good start but if you want it super safe then you'll want offsite backups too
[19:56] <bhautik> hi
[19:57] <reveredge> hi
[19:57] <reveredge> bhautik,
[19:57] <reveredge> what does that mean?
[19:57] <reveredge> geography?
[19:57] <hadifarnoud> this is supposed to make </body></html> two lines, one for each tag. sed -i 's/<\/body>/\&/' *.html
[19:57] <hadifarnoud> but it doesn't work
[19:58] <aramil> its just that the /home that im going to have on a different partition will have some stuff in it and idk if the installer will delete it
[20:02] <mgaunard> does ubuntu have first-class support for cinnamon now?
[20:03] <xangua> ubuntu matte is an official flavor starting with 15.04 , don't know anything about cinnamon
[20:04] <k1l_> mgaunard: cinnamon is in the repos since 14.10
[20:04] <xangua> too many gnome forks
[20:06] <iBeatBlaxx> xangua: that's gay
[20:06] <SchrodingersScat> !guidelines | iBeatBlaxx
[20:06] <iBeatBlaxx> what did i say?
[20:06] <mgaunard> k1l_: I thought it had been removed at some point
[20:10] <Parabola> why did they remove raid from the ubuntu desktop install.
[20:11] <capradmar> it triggered an error in the end: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11067137/
[20:14] <Parabola> where is the god damn alternate image,
[20:14] <Parabola> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#head-194b248381c71c37f7b187c6b814bbe7e31d91d6 this says its on the download page, its clearly not on the mirrors, or its not labeled as alternate.
[20:14] <jParkton> which god damn alternate image?
[20:15] <Music_> Hi, Do you know why Rhythmbox (3.0.2 or the latest 3.20) allocates 2 GB of my virtual memory??
[20:15] <Parabola> jParkton: whichever gets me 15.04 with raid support in the installer :)
[20:15] <Parabola> newest i see on any repo is a 2012 release.
[20:17] <jParkton> you mean these? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/15.04/
[20:17] <Parabola> thats netboot
[20:17] <Parabola> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[20:17] <Parabola> i see alternative ISOs in BT form, but its for 3 year old releases.
[20:17] <nicoo> Hi. My (X)Ubuntu system seems to be in a bad state since I upgraded to 15.04. It seems keyboard-configuration (the package) is broken, and that it prevents dpkg from configuring a bunch of other dependent packages
[20:17] <Parabola> they are missing for LTS and 15.04
[20:17] <nicoo> dpkg log at https://gist.github.com/nbraud/6bb8a95f1676b9298e3b
[20:17] <Parabola> so someone fucked up documentation
[20:18] <Parabola> it appears they dont do alt ISOs anymore
[20:19] <nicoo> I already tried dpkg -r --force-depends keyboard-configuration and reinstalling it. Doesn't change anything, same error
[20:19] <sebastian> Hi guys, I'm using virt-resize to expand a partition reported present by virt-filesystems but when I try to resize it I get an: "partition not found in the source disk"
[20:19] <sebastian> I'm totally stuck now
[20:20] <sebastian> "/dev/sda5"  is present, is an ext4, I don't get why can't expand
[20:22] <capradmar> After installing ubuntu, I have the minimal bash like. Here is my boot info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11067137/ What's wrong?
[20:30] <hadifarnoud> if I recompile nginx with PageSpeed support, would that change any of my configs? or is it straight forward?
[20:32] <rek> !ubottu
[20:32] <rek> !ubottu chat
[20:33] <rek> what's the ubuntu chat channel?
[20:33] <Fuchs> #ubuntu-offtopic  would be one of them
[20:33] <rek> cool
[20:33] <Fuchs> see alis for a couple more
[20:33] <iBeatBlaxx> what's the other fucks?
[20:33] <rek> i like your nickname
[20:33] <Fuchs> I like it, too
[20:33] <iBeatBlaxx> sorry autocorrect* Fuchs**
[20:33] <rek> it's like you fuck a lot
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> language
[20:34] <Fuchs> I do, but that's not really on topic for this channel nor the family friendly language we'd like to have in here.
[20:34] <Fuchs> so please continue with that somewhere else, preferably where nobody can read it ♥
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> iBeatBlaxx  and family friendly nicks
[20:35] <rek> Fuchs: are you like an important person here?
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> rek  stay polite
[20:35] <rek> MonkeyDust: ok
[20:35] <rek> just using tinycore now hehehe that's why i'm nervous
[20:36] <jParkton> reisio: O/
[20:36] <rek> hey guys i don't remember whos' krabador or something.... what's his channel?
[20:37] <Parabola> jesus christ, is there any documentation on ubuntu's site thats remotely accurate regarding mdadm raid DURING the install?
[20:37] <Parabola> or is QA thrown to the wind on documentation and its IDGAF errday?
[20:37] <devops_guy> hey if I add a root certificate to /usr/local/share/ca-certificates and run update-ca-certificates, should curl work without error?
[20:37] <reisio> jParkton: \o
[20:38] <rek> hei
[20:39] <guest7392> I am looking for ways to configure the screen brightness in X11, as my laptop LCD still hurts my eyes even on the lowest setting. For Windows there is Dimmer which is written in .NET but does not run with Mono. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[20:39] <Parabola> did you try googling it
[20:39] <Parabola> https://www.google.com/search?q=xorg+screen+brightness&oq=xorg+screen+brightness&aqs=chrome..69i57.4519j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
[20:39] <reisio> guest7392: you can increase further with software using xgamma
[20:39] <HelpeRX> can i use the trusty kernel in utopic velvet
[20:39] <reisio> guest7392: I'd also recommend using xcalib -i -a to invert colors at night
[20:40] <reisio> guest7392: and with -green 1.0 0.0 75.0 -blue 1.0 0.0 50.0 to reduce blue light
[20:40] <reisio> HelpeRX: sure
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> !info redshift | guest7392 is this useful
[20:41] <HelpeRX> thanks lol
[20:42] <HelpeRX> also will the upgrade change all my sysctl.conf?
[20:42] <guest7392> MonkeyDust: I have used f.lux before and it is great but I would prefer to just dim my screeninstead of filtering blue light, but thank you for the suggestion
[20:42] <HelpeRX> i hate flux lol
[20:42] <Parabola> f.lux is fantastic.
[20:43] <Parabola> idk about on a computer, but its the first thing i put on my phone
[20:43] <HelpeRX> no it doesnt effect your stress or sleep pattern there is no science just a placebo effect
[20:43] <k1l_> guest7392: use redshift like redshift-gtk
[20:43] <guest7392> HelpeRX: It helps to releive eye strain for me
[20:44] <Parabola> no, its really not up for discussion
[20:44] <Parabola> i can assure you I know what my eyes like better than you do.
[20:44] <HelpeRX> lmfao
[20:44] <HelpeRX> you make like it better but it is nothing but a placebo effect
[20:44] <Parabola> you're an idiot
[20:44] <HelpeRX> may*
[20:45] <HelpeRX> the truth hurts bruh?
[20:45] <HelpeRX> you mad?
[20:45] <reisio> s/you mad/umadbro/
[20:45] <reisio> do it right
[20:46] <k1l_> Parabola: HelpeRX first we dont call names in here. second that is not to be discussed in here since we focus on solving the issue and not telling the user he doesnt have an issue.
[20:46] <guest7392> HelpeRX: a quick Google search reveals lots of credible sources regarding blue light and how it inhibits melatonin production. Also I find your contribution not be very constructive. Your opinion on redshift does not help me in any way.
[20:48] <guest7392> reisio: I tried xgamma and although it helps to some extent (I set the gamma to .3) it adds a somewhat blueish hue to my screen. Might just be my crappy laptop screen's fault but it sure is not pleasant to look at. Will experiment some more
[20:49] <reisio> guest7392: can change the hue, too
[20:49] <HelpeRX> all i did was state a fate and he geos on calling me an idiot so really its not my fault
[20:50] <guest7392> HelpeRX: Could you provide a reliable source on this "fact">
[20:50] <reisio> it'll help your eyes whether it helps you sleep or not
[20:51] <reisio> that will be apparent to anyone at all :D
[20:51] <harishkrupo> \part
[20:51] <Laurenceb___> hi, I have a problem
[20:51] <k1l_> guest7392: lets focus on the ubuntu support in here
[20:51] <Laurenceb___> I need to restart metacity
[20:51] <Laurenceb___> how can i do this?
[20:51] <Laurenceb___> metacity --replace &  is failing
[20:52] <reisio> killall it first
[20:52] <Laurenceb___> "Unable to open X display"
[20:52] <reisio> oh? pgrep -x X
[20:52] <Laurenceb___> can you go through the proceedure step by step for me?
[20:52] <reisio> Laurenceb___: you in X when you try to run metacity --replace?
[20:52] <Laurenceb___> I'm connected by ssh
[20:52] <Laurenceb___> the pc is not in a usable state atm
[20:53] <Laurenceb___> I only have ssh access
[20:53] <Laurenceb___> screen is frozen
[20:54] <reisio> try killall metacity; DISPLAY=:0 nohup metacity --replace > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[20:54] <Laurenceb___> so can anyone help me?
[20:54] <Laurenceb___> ok
[20:54] <reisio> or replace :0 with whatever ps aux | grep X has for a number
[20:54] <Laurenceb___> shiiit
[20:54] <Laurenceb___> how do i paste to putty in windows lol ?
[20:55] <bindi> right click, if you have default settings
[20:55] <reisio> Laurenceb___: shift+ins?
[20:55] <Rufus> Greetings. Running Ubuntu 15.04. I've installed ntfs-3g and gparted, but I can't resize an ntfs partition. Information page says it needs ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g. Any help please? (I get that with gparted live cd as well)
[20:57] <guest7392> k1l_: sorry about that. I gave redshift a try and it is already working wonders for my eyes. Thank you for your help and have a good day
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Rufus: Have you seen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions ?
[20:59] <HelpeRX> alright i am sorry everyone for saying the truth there i apologized
[21:00] <Parabola> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID <-- another stellar document by the highschoolers in charge of documentation
[21:01] <Parabola> documentation 101: "fill it out", "select THE partitions" "the ones you want" these types of terms require the user to make an assumption, or have prior knowledge of a process, if the user had that knowledge, they wouldn't need the guide. test your documentation from the context of a new user, or it will almost always be fucking useless
[21:02] <smw_> Hi all, I have a bluetooth headset. I opened up the bluetooth scanner and it said "Not Set Up", so I clicked on it and it now says it is "Disconnected". However, every time I try to toggle the on/off button, it immediately toggles back to off. Anyone seen this before?
[21:06] <Parabola> seriously fix your trash docs
[21:07] <courrier> Hey guys, I need to install a Windows 7 on computer A that is not able to read the installation DVD, my computer B running Ubuntu is able to read it, how can I create a netboot server temporarily?
[21:08] <reisio> courrier: why can't it read it?
[21:09] <courrier> reisio: probably not compatible with the medium, it's a DVD+RW
[21:09] <reisio> courrier: got a usb stick?
[21:11] <maverick1> usa BuDuScRiPt [ http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript ]
[21:11] <maverick1> Version 3.7.86
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[21:11] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[21:14] <reisio> courrier: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[21:15] <maverick1> Spiacente, non sono riuscito a trovare nulla relativo a keywords
[21:18] <binBlob> Hi does someone know how I can set the synaptic touchpad do do the following: When I drag the pad with my finger for a short distance the mouse cursor should not stop after my finger movement ends but it should continue to flow in the dragged direction. Under windows this is called coasting. I tried to setup this feature with synclient but I am not able to achieve the same effect.
[21:19] <reisio> binBlob: CoastingSpeed
[21:19] <OerHeks> binBlob, does the right/or left side of the touchpad have that feature, keep scrolling down?
[21:20] <binBlob> I tried to set up the coasting speed but id does not change anything. No I dont have the scrolling feature on the sides
[21:22] <binBlob> I suspect that the windows coasting is doing an entirely different thing than the linux coasting
[21:22] <totesmuhgoats> hey guys
[21:22] <Pinkamena_D> hi
[21:23] <totesmuhgoats> i have an ubuntu LTS box that i've been upgrading since 10.04, it's now at 14.04
[21:23] <Umeaboy> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/vivid/release/ubuntu-15.04-server-powerpc.iso, is that right for any 27" iMac newer than 2012?
[21:24] <totesmuhgoats> i'm thinking about moving off of LTS and upgrading to 15.04 for newer packages, but i always have issues using the official do-release-upgrade method
[21:24] <Umeaboy> I intend to try it on a friends computer without installing it.
[21:24] <totesmuhgoats> the debian method of editing my sources.list always seems to work for me
[21:24] <totesmuhgoats> what i'm wondering is, can i go straight from 14.04 to 15.04 this way, or should I do the 14.10 inbetween?
[21:25] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: "No."
[21:26] <totesmuhgoats> bekks: "No." because it's the debian method? or "No." because of skipping the intermediate step?
[21:26] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: you need to upgrade to every release step. or use the LTS to LTS upgrade shortcut
[21:26] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: and we dont use the debian method on ubuntu, we use the update-manager or do-release-upgrade
[21:26] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: You need to upgrade to 14.10 before, but keep in mind that 14.04 is supported until 2019, while being on non-LTS, that means you have to do 10 do-release-upgrades.
[21:26] <Umeaboy> I can't seem to find http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/release/ubuntu-14.04.2-desktop-amd64+mac.iso for 15.04.
[21:26] <Umeaboy> Anybody know where to find it?
[21:26] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: just make sure your release-prompt is set to the upgrade path you want to use
[21:27] <daftykins> Umeaboy: you don't need mac ISOs anymore, they're part of the amd64 build
[21:27] <totesmuhgoats> bekks: yea i understand that, it's a home server / desktop so newer packages are starting to be more important than having super long term support
[21:27] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: yea, i can get it to go through the process with do-release-upgrade, it just always ends up in a broken state
[21:27] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: details matter
[21:27] <totesmuhgoats> in the past i made images and tried it, broke the system, then did the debian method
[21:28] <jParkton> that is pretty cryptic
[21:28] <daftykins> totesmuhgoats: sounds like your machine is full of PPAs you're not removing beforehand
[21:28] <totesmuhgoats> jParkton: what is?
[21:28] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: please show the exact errors in a pastebin
[21:28] <Thesaurus> anyone having luck with GLX video output in VLC with nvidia GPU's on 14.04 ?
[21:28] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: i thought the update-manager / do-release-upgrade does that for you?
[21:29] <daftykins> no it does not
[21:29] <totesmuhgoats> when i do the debian method i remove them all manually
[21:29] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: No, you have to do that manually, before. Since ever.
[21:29] <Pinkamena_D> Does anyone know if ubuntu has any kind of tablet-type packages to allow a tablet screen to work with, for example, drag-to-scroll operations?
[21:29] <totesmuhgoats> aah, that might make sense why the one worked and the other didn't
[21:29] <daftykins> upgrade advice says remove PPAs... purge your extra junk, then upgrade
[21:29] <totesmuhgoats> well, i guess i'll try the official method again tonight when nobody is using the system
[21:30] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: and put a "lsb_release -d" "uname -a" "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades" in a paste too
[21:30] <Umeaboy> daftykins: Really?
[21:30] <Umeaboy> OK.
[21:30] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: will do, one moment
[21:31] <Umeaboy> How do I tell which version of the iMac that he has? Is there a sticker at the back?
[21:31] <Umeaboy> I have never looked.
[21:31] <Umeaboy> Most of the are x64 right?
[21:31] <reisio> just look in the underside of his cardigan
[21:31] <jParkton> reisio: lol
[21:32] <reisio> Pinkamena_D: up to the wm
[21:32] <Umeaboy> reisio: I shouldv'e expected that. ;)
[21:33] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: http://pastebin.com/S4TWNHK1
[21:33] <reisio> if it doesn't say on the bottom or side or back, then you're probably in for some detective work
[21:33] <totesmuhgoats> everything seems to be fine there, i would need to change the prompt at the end to do the upgrade to 15.04
[21:33] <reisio> even if it does say you probably are
[21:33] <totesmuhgoats> but otherwise it's fine
[21:33] <reisio> Apple isn't big on transparency
[21:33] <reisio> each model is just another step in you buying another one
[21:33] <totesmuhgoats> my kernel is unsupported, but from an official ubuntu package
[21:33] <ModelEngine> hi guys, shmee again. I'm in need of a bit of help trying to get plank to autostart when linux starts, also pcmanfm to be pinned to taskbar
[21:33] <jParkton> that is an understatement
[21:33] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: issue 1: you are using a mainline kernel. issue 2: the relase prompt is set to LTS so it waits for a 16.04 to be relaseasy
[21:33] <k1l_> *released
[21:34] <daftykins> !mac | Umeaboy This is where you should have started.
[21:34] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: its a testing kernel. it is not an official canonical supported kernel.
[21:34] <Boogie> I have bootable Ubuntu 12.04 portable hard drive. I use it frequently. I tried to boot it on my uncles older pc, it starts in GNU grub. It's a bash command line, I believe. Any idea how to just get it to boot?
[21:35] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: and it still says 14.04.1 so you might miss a lot of upgrades there anyway
[21:36] <BigJ> I am having a problem with my laptop with suspend.  After I close the lid and try to exit from suspend nothing happens.
[21:38] <R13ose> In Chrome, how do I stop the ctrl = zoom in?
[21:40] <ModelEngine> any body?
[21:41] <jParkton> R13ose: grab the source tarball of Chrome and rewrite key bindings, recompile and launch
[21:41] <Johnny_Linux> D`oh!
[21:42] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: hmm, doing dist-upgrade should take care of getting me up to the newest version, no?
[21:42] <R13ose> jParkton: if I don't want to do that, is there another way?  Isn't ctrl+ anything always the key for most shortcuts?
[21:42] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: no
[21:42] <Johnny_Linux> birds of a feather totesmuhgoats
[21:43] <totesmuhgoats> Johnny_Linux: hmm?
[21:43] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: ubuntu doesnt use apt-get to upgrade to a new release. if you run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it only installs all upgrades including those who will need to have other packages to be installed. like kernel upgrades.
[21:43] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: ubuntu uses on cli "sudo do-release-upgrade" for the upgrade to a new release
[21:44] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: i see, thanks for the info
[21:44] <totesmuhgoats> i need to learn to ubuntu apparently, i thought i knew what i was doing
[21:45] <jParkton> R13ose: unfortunately when you want to modify a program to use something like key bindings differently the only way is to hack it
[21:45] <Boogie> I have a bootable Ubuntu 12.04 portable hard drive. I use it frequently. I tried to boot it on my uncles older pc, it starts in GNU grub. It's a bash command line, I believe. Any idea how to just get it to boot?
[21:45] <totesmuhgoats> hmm, do-release-upgrade says "No new release found"
[21:45] <R13ose> jParkton: how else do I open a new tab?
[21:46] <jParkton> click on the plus
[21:46] <jParkton> shift+ middle mouse, Ctrl+T
[21:46] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: first make sure you run "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you are on the latest state of that version
[21:46] <jParkton> a few different ways
[21:46] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: will do
[21:46] <R13ose> jParkton: middle mouse button, I don't have that?
[21:46] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: then look at the release-prompt and if its still pointing to "lts". because that means 14.04 is waiting for 16.04 as the next upgrade
[21:47] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: well, i was trying to get it to go from 14.04.1 to whatever 14.04.x is, the newest one
[21:47] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: that is dont with apt-get dist-upgrade (because that is the regular updates)
[21:47] <totesmuhgoats> k1l_: ah okay, that's what i thought
[21:48] <totesmuhgoats> we'll see if i'm on the right version after this dist-upgrade is done then
[21:48] <k1l_> totesmuhgoats: 14.04.x is called point release and think of it as service packs from windows
[21:48] <jParkton> R13ose: then use one of the other three methods I named :|
[21:49] <min> hello gents
[21:49] <binBlob> Ok it ssems that the coasting option is only for scrolling! I want the same just for the movement of the mouse.
[21:50] <binBlob> this is the description from the win drivers: http://www.thewindowsplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/enablecoasting.png
[21:51] <daftykins> yeah that's useless.
[21:51] <daftykins> you're not gonna get synaptic drivers configured via a GUI in Linux
[21:51] <binBlob> yes that is not the problem I cant find the right setting
[21:52] <wish^> Im having a problem with Ubuntu, when i shut down, restart or logout the system hangs on the loading screen and does not turn off
[21:53] <wish^> Im using Unity, and the logout screen with the 5 dots just keeps going and going.. I waited 15 mins once and it still did not help
[21:53] <bishop> #quit
[21:54] <totesmuhgoats> so i just did apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade and lsb_release -d still shows 14.04.1
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> wish^  while it's in the dots, press ctrl-alt F1 ... then use sudo reboot
[21:54] <daftykins> totesmuhgoats: yeah because dist-upgrade does not upgrade version...
[21:55] <daftykins> !distupgrade
[21:55] <ceibal> juegos de motos
[21:55] <ceibal> sebasrrnrr
[21:55] <mgaunard> does cinnamon perform well with ubuntu or should I use linux mint instead?
[21:55] <ceibal> nrkrknr
[21:55] <ceibal> rinrirninrrrr
[21:55] <ceibal> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[21:55] <ceibal> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[21:55] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: i'm just trying to get to 14.04.2, does dist-upgrade not do that?
[21:56] <daftykins> it should have yes
[21:56] <wish^> MonkeyDust: thats all good and well. But how can i permanently solve this issue?
[21:56] <wish^> Im using an LTE version
[21:56] <daftykins> so either your repos are funky, or this isn't a normal install.. or something
[21:56] <daftykins> wish^: LTS.
[21:57] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: yea, i'm gonna guess something is wonky, i've been cobbling this install together for like 6 years now
[21:58] <wish^> S yea
[21:58] <totesmuhgoats> well, works is works
[21:58] <daftykins> totesmuhgoats: from what? :)
[21:59] <om3n> cake
[21:59] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: it was originally a 10.04 release, i updated by the debian method to 12.04, then to 14.04, there's some PPAs and an unsupported kernel in use, migrated the fs to btrfs after the fact, split parts of the fs namespace into different volumes
[21:59] <totesmuhgoats> at some point i am probably gonna need to start over
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> totesmuhgoats  sounds like frankenbuntu
[22:00] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: With a fresh install of 14.04 maybe :)
[22:00] <daftykins> ok well then there's your mistake
[22:00] <daftykins> btrfs on this frankenbuntu? :D
[22:00] <daftykins> good lord man kill it, kill it now
[22:00] <totesmuhgoats> lol btrfs is the best thing that's ever happened to me
[22:01] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: You started to like your misfortune? :P
[22:01] <daftykins> how can you even be sure all its' blessings are functioning on that hodge-podge of an install 0o
[22:01] <Spec-Chum> I'm a boring EXT4 kinda guy
[22:02] <vitimiti> Me too
[22:02] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: yea, it's getting out of hand, but when things work they work. sometimes making things work "right" can cause more things to be wrong than before
[22:03] <daftykins> personally i don't even believe in upgrades
[22:03] <daftykins> working in IT so long, i do clean installs and work out a new releases' foibles before migrating data to it, then i just dispose of the old install
[22:04] <daftykins> upgrades are touted as being magical, but they're blatantly a hit it and pray sort of task :)
[22:04] <Johnny_Linux> exactly
[22:04] <Johnny_Linux> taboo
[22:04] <vitimiti> I've been updating since 14.04 without much of a problem
[22:04] <vitimiti> Guess was lucky
[22:04] <Weslei> ee ae jhows
[22:05] <daftykins> one whole year ago? :)
[22:05] <Weslei> kkk
[22:05] <vitimiti> Yes
[22:05] <daftykins> hahaha
[22:05] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[22:05] <Weslei> tem br ae?
[22:05] <daftykins> Weslei: english only thanks
[22:05] <mgaunard> what's the package recommended for nvidia drivers?
[22:05] <k1l_> upgrades on ubuntu get automated testings. so if you dont stuff too much 3rd party stuff and ppas into it they will work
[22:05] <mgaunard> I want to always have the latest one
[22:05] <daftykins> mgaunard: depends on your hardware
[22:06] <daftykins> and ubuntu version
[22:06] <mgaunard> 15.04
[22:06] <mgaunard> my card is a geforce 8800 gt
[22:06] <daftykins> crikey that thing is 7 years old
[22:06] <ModelEngine> hi there: when I try to paste Plank into the ~/.config/autostart folder, it says this: The specified directory'/home/friendlyshop1/ .config/autostart' is not valid
[22:06] <daftykins> no point you running anything newer than the nvidia-331 driver i'd say
[22:06] <mgaunard> it's that old? still runs the latest next-gen stuff just fine
[22:07] <daftykins> i don't even think that's a DirectX 11 card so no, you're just not seeing anything to the full effect
[22:07] <totesmuhgoats> daftykins: yea, my goal was to keep 10.04 for all 8 years of support, but then the packages got unbearably old
[22:07] <daftykins> it didn't have 8 years, it had 4 0o
[22:07] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: 10.04 has 4 years, not 8 years.
[22:07] <daftykins> i just retired my 10.04.4 servers at the end of April
[22:07] <Spec-Chum> ModelEngine, do you actually have a space before .config or is that a typing error on here?
[22:08] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: Basically your 10.04 is just dead.
[22:08] <ModelEngine> Spec-Chum: I do have a space
[22:08] <totesmuhgoats> bekks: well it's a good thing i upgraded then ;)
[22:08] <Spec-Chum> I tend to break ubuntu by frankenstening it with various kernels and PPAs
[22:08] <Spec-Chum> i can't be trusted iwth linux
[22:08] <daftykins> Spec-Chum: just as long as you never ask for support in here then :P
[22:09] <ModelEngine> Spec-Chum: thank you for the help
[22:09] <totesmuhgoats> Spec-Chum: if you can't be trusted with linux you can't be trusted with anything. there's just no room in this world for men like us
[22:09] <mgaunard> you kinda have to install ppa to get the good stuff
[22:09] <ModelEngine> Spec-Chum: i just retried it without the space and it worked!
[22:09] <bekks> totesmuhgoats: I wouldnt call that upgrading, more like modifying frankenbuntu.
[22:09] <Spec-Chum> ModelEngine, NP :)
[22:09] <totesmuhgoats> gonna reboot, one sec
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> mutilating, not modifying
[22:09] <Spec-Chum> daftykins, nah, I'm good, i think lol
[22:10] <om3n> hey guys, is there a preference in linux for nvidia/ati for drivers etc or is it more specific than that ? iam trying to compose a list of hardware for a dedicated ubuntu box :P
[22:10] <mgaunard> is it normal that apt-get update takes more than two hours?
[22:10] <mgaunard> literally
[22:10] <daftykins> mgaunard: no
[22:10] <Spec-Chum> I'm a "gotta have it" type, if there's a new version of seom application I want it
[22:10] <Spec-Chum> *some
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> mgaunard  is the list that long, or the update that slow?
[22:10] <mgaunard> Fetched 27.5 MB in 2h 19min 12s (3,288 B/s)
[22:11] <Spec-Chum> Gnome 3.16 came out so you can probably guess what my Ubuntu Gnome install is running...
[22:11] <Spec-Chum> seems OK tho, oh and kernel 4
[22:12] <mgaunard> 15.04 uses kernel 4!?
[22:12] <k1l_> nope
[22:12] <Spec-Chum> mgaunard, it can, mine does
[22:12] <Spec-Chum> 3.19 by default
[22:12] <mgaunard> is it 25% better than 3.x?
[22:12] <Johnny_Linux> look ma, no hands
[22:12] <k1l_> the user Spec-Chum was just pointing out that he uses a lot of 3rd party software
[22:12] <Spec-Chum> can't say I noticed a difference
[22:13] <mgaunard> 4 is 1/4 bigger than 3 though
[22:13] <k1l_> Johnny_Linux: xcell, stop that please. ##chat for chatting
[22:13] <mgaunard> or are numbers senseless now
[22:13] <Spec-Chum> it's just 3.20 but Linux decided it was time to change to 4
[22:13] <Spec-Chum> there's not particulalry new in it
[22:13] <Spec-Chum> *nothing
[22:13] <Spec-Chum> Linus even
[22:14] <ModelEngine> I have noticed that i can google or ask a question about Lubuntu and regardless of the fact that I run Lubuntu, I can usually find my answer in the Ubuntu forums, etc. why is that?
[22:14] <daftykins> Spec-Chum: please don't discuss your unsupported mods, it's just going to give people bad ideas :(
[22:14] <mgaunard> ModelEngine: because lubuntu is ubuntu
[22:14] <ModelEngine> daftykins: i'm all for a bad idea
[22:14] <k1l_> ModelEngine: they share the same system base besides the installed desktop.
[22:14] <daftykins> ModelEngine: fine, but you can't ask for help here with such a thing :)
[22:15] <bekks> Spec-Chum: Then you did not read the changelog ;) At least live patching is worth noticing, like DAX, kasan, parallel NFS, and so on.
[22:15] <binBlob> I looked up the synaptics settings under windows and it is not called coasting but momentum.
[22:15] <Spec-Chum> daftykins, I feel it's somewhat relevant to be fair, it is direct from Ubuntu Mainline and I'm sure some people will want to know it works before trying it, but i do take your point and will cease
[22:15] <ModelEngine> cool. it's very handy. so my question is why is there both a ubuntu channel and a Lubuntu channel if they're  both run off the same kernel or w/e it's called?
[22:15] <ModelEngine> daftykins: lol :)
[22:15] <binBlob> No wonder I could not find anything
[22:15] <ricksebak> I have full disk encryption set up for /, /home, and swap, all using the same password. When I boot I have to enter the same password three times. Is there any way to make it so I only have to enter the password once?
[22:16] <Spec-Chum> bekks, I confess I didn't read most of it
[22:16] <mgaunard> what's kasan
[22:16] <k1l_> ModelEngine: because some issue are due to the used desktop enviroment or the different standard setup
[22:16] <mgaunard> sounds like kernel address sanitizer
[22:16] <bekks> mgaunard: kernel space sanitizer
[22:16] <bekks> Yeah.
[22:16] <ModelEngine> k1l_: oic. tkx
[22:16] <mgaunard> doesn't that add overhead?
[22:17] <Spec-Chum> bekks, it was new so obviously I had to have it :p
[22:17] <bekks> mgaunard: every fault detection adds overhead for a specific price.
[22:17] <bekks> Spec-Chum: There are meds that can heal versionitis, even bad forms of it ;)
[22:17] <gzcwnk> hehe
[22:18] <Spec-Chum> I think I'm too far gone..,
[22:18] <ModelEngine> 1 final question, then i'll leave you guys alone :) how do i set num lock to be permanently on, even when i first login to Lubuntu? Note: I have already set my BIOS to num lock state on
[22:22] <Bray90820> So I setup a samba share with ubuntu 15.04 and other computer can connect to it with the ip address but not the host name
[22:24] <daftykins> Bray90820: that's not an issue.
[22:25] <daftykins> IP based makes more sense and is reliable
[22:25] <daftykins> you should also use a static IP so it never changes internally.
[22:25] <Bray90820> daftykins: I am using static IP
[22:25] <daftykins> good stuff
[22:25] <Bray90820> but I use to be able to enter "smb://server/data" now only "smb://192.168.1.8/data" works
[22:26] <ModelEngine> any one?
[22:27] <daftykins> Bray90820: yeah i don't consider that an issue.
[22:27] <daftykins> sounds like you changed router perhaps
[22:27] <binBlob> ok so now the question is how do I enable the momentum/interia feature ?
[22:28] <Bray90820> daftykins: I reformated my computer and installed 15.04 from 14.10
[22:30] <Bray90820> daftykins: Also the share isn't discoverable I have to enter it manually
[22:31] <daftykins> i take it you're installing desktop and selecting to share a folder via its' properties?
[22:31] <daftykins> again, if it's working - what's the problem?
[22:33] <Bray90820> Because I would prefer it to be auto discovered and to be able to use the hostname
[22:33] <daftykins> have fun with that then :)
[22:34] <tswett> Ahoy.
[22:34] <tswett> Now, I can ask questions about 15.04 now, right? I upgraded before it was actually released.
[22:34] <tswett> Without further ado...
[22:34] <daftykins> as long as you're up to date, sure
[22:35] <tswett> I'd like to make it so I can change my laptop's screen brightness using the keyboard. Ubuntu didn't seem to recognize the Fn brightness buttons, so I set up Super-Z and Super-X to do that instead.
[22:35] <EriC^^> tswett: ok, what's the problem?
[22:36] <tswett> Under System Settings / Keyboard / Shortcuts / Custom Shortcuts, I set one keyboard shortcut to do "xbacklight - 10", and the other to do "xbacklight + 10".
[22:36] <tswett> But now those keyboard shortcuts don't work. Running the commands manually still works, but the keyboard shortcuts don't.
[22:37] <EriC^^> try setting the shortcut to gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'xbacklight -10'"
[22:39] <tswett> Done. Pressing the shortcut still doesn't seem to do anything.
[22:40] <happyfr0gg> Has anyone tried the Cyborg Hawk Linux? It is based on Ubuntu 14.04.
[22:40] <EriC^^> try setting the shortcut to gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'xbacklight -10; bash'"
[22:40] <k1l_> happyfr0gg: we only support official ubuntu versions in here
[22:40] <EriC^^> tswett: it should leave the terminal open, see what it says
[22:41] <daftykins> happyfr0gg: unsupported derivative distros are off topic here
[22:42] <tswett> EriC^^: still doesn't seem to do anything.
[22:42] <tswett> Even if I set it to just gnome-terminal, it still doesn't seem to do anything.
[22:42] <Bray90820> I think there is something wrong with my host file
[22:43] <Bray90820> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2ac4b4442f7791e8442a
[22:43] <EriC^^> tswett: it doesn't open a terminal?
[22:43] <tswett> EriC^^: nope.
[22:43] <EriC^^> gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'xbacklight -10; bash'"
[22:43] <EriC^^> that doesn't?
[22:43] <Bray90820> Server is my hostname so should it be changed to the IP of my machine
[22:43] <EriC^^> tswett: with bash at the end?
[22:43] <tswett> EriC^^: no, it doesn't.
[22:43] <tswett> Yup.
[22:44] <EriC^^> ok, then either you have a typo or the shortcut isn't working, try setting a different shortcut
[22:44] <daftykins> Bray90820: no
[22:44] <EriC^^> tswett: do you have gnome-terminal installed? are you on unity?
[22:44] <Bray90820> daftykins: Does that file look ok?
[22:44] <tswett> I notice that the keyboard shortcuts for "launch terminal", "launch web browser", and "home folder" don't seem to work, either. Nothing seems to happen when I press them.
[22:44] <daftykins> Bray90820: yes it's normal, your desire for connecting via hostname has nothing to do with the hosts file :)
[22:45] <tswett> I do have gnome-terminal installed. I can run it by typing it into itself.
[22:45] <Bray90820> Well then what would I do to fix the issue
[22:45] <EriC^^> tswett: ok, try setting a different shortcut something without super
[22:46] <daftykins> Bray90820: as i said earlier i don't consider it an issue so there's nothing to fix :)
[22:46] <daftykins> Bray90820: if you absolutely, DESPERATELY want host pinging, edit the other hosts to have the hostname and IP in their hosts files.
[22:46] <daftykins> that'd be the easiest way
[22:46] <daftykins> but you really should just remember IPs :>
[22:47] <Bray90820> What I don't understand is why hostnames would just randomly die
[22:48] <daftykins> you probably installed some other junk in the past, or had samba operating in a different way
[22:48] <tswett> I tried setting the "Home folder" shortcut to Ctrl-Alt-N. The shortcut still doesn't seem to work.
[22:48] <tswett> Sorry to cut this short, but I gotta go. Thanks for your help.
[22:49] <EriC^^> ok, no problem
[22:50] <Bray90820> daftykins: Do hostnames work by default with samba on ubuntu?
[22:50] <daftykins> did you even read what i said?
[22:50] <daftykins> different versions can have different defaults.
[22:51] <Bray90820> daftykins: Hum alright then I may agree with you
[22:52] <daftykins> was the evidence not enough? :)
[22:52] <Bray90820> Well maybe there was something messing with it odk
[22:52] <Bray90820> idk
[22:54] <ki7rw> this is strange - i had to replace my hdd but when i restored the backups all the directories appeared on the user desktop - i can't delete the desktop icons without destroying the actual directory
[22:55] <daftykins> backed up with?
[22:55] <xray> hello
[22:55] <EriC^^> ki7rw: you mean you can't remove the individual files without doing rm -r ~/Desktop ?
[22:56] <xray> can you tell me what ubuntu 15 is like in security please
[22:56] <ki7rw> i can't delete the icon from the desktop without destroying the directory
[22:56] <bekks> xray: what do you mean?
[22:56] <daftykins> it is as secure as ubuntu is
[22:56] <EriC^^> ki7rw: anything in ~/Desktop usually shows on the desktop, how do you mean?
[22:56] <xray> is it better than ubuntu 14
[22:57] <daftykins> xray: there is no such thing as better, 14.04 is LTS, 15.04 is not - totally different
[22:57] <ki7rw> if the icon is labeled movies - then i delete the movies folder when i delete the icon from the desktop
[22:57] <xray> thanks for the great reply
[22:57] <EriC^^> ki7rw: where does it get deleted from?
[22:58] <xray> thanks daftkins
[22:58] <ki7rw> the icon is deleted from the desktop and the desktop icon represents the actual directory
[22:59] <EriC^^> ki7rw: which is located in ~/movies ?
[23:00] <EriC^^> ki7rw: can you paste ls -l ~/Desktop | grep <example> ?
[23:00] <ki7rw> yes
[23:00] <ki7rw> yes the the previous question
[23:01] <EriC^^> ok
[23:02] <ki7rw> i  guess i'll delete everything and try to restore again
[23:02] <EriC^^> ki7rw: can you paste here ls -l ~/Desktop | grep <some example> ?
[23:02] <ki7rw> this has never happened before - ubuntu 14.04
[23:05] <ki7rw> EriC^^, i tried that - didn't get any results unless i did ls -l without grep
[23:05] <AR45> daftykins: Got the cable.
[23:05] <EriC^^> ki7rw: ok, paste one of the lines
[23:05] <wish^> Im having a problem with Ubuntu, when i shut down, restart or logout the system hangs on the loading screen and does not turn off
[23:05] <wish^> Im using Unity, and the logout screen with the 5 dots just keeps going and going.. I waited 15 mins once and it still did not help
[23:05] <wish^> I know like someone said earlier that i can do a command to restart
[23:05] <wish^> but should this be necessary?
[23:05] <EriC^^> wish^: press esc when that happens and see what it says
[23:08] <wish^> seemed to be unresponsive
[23:09] <EriC^^> check /var/log/syslog maybe
[23:09] <EriC^^> wish^: if you open a tty do you get messages usually?
[23:09] <Zaitzev> Is there a way for me to check a textfile on a webpage and compare it to a local textfile, in set intervals?
[23:10] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: compare it how
[23:10] <Zaitzev> EriC^^: the content of it
[23:10] <ki7rw> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/cqL3uvSU
[23:11] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: you mean if it's an exact match?
[23:11] <Zaitzev> EriC^^: Yeah and if it differs, download and replace to local file
[23:16] <ki7rw> EriC^^, i suppose i could send you a screen shot of the desktop but that might expose something i don't want
[23:17] <dirtysnow> ^thats why god invented mspaint
[23:18] <Aramil> can someone help me i backed up my /home to a different partition for a reinstall and now i want to move it back to the same partition as /
[23:19] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: while sleep <interval>; do wget -O /path/to/file http://something; if [ "$(diff <(cat /path/to/file) <(cat /path/to/file2))" ]; then cp /path/to/file /path/to/file2; rm /path/to/file; fi; done
[23:19] <Zaitzev> :O
[23:19] <daftykins> AR45: huzzah, all sorted?
[23:20] <Zaitzev> EriC^^: You wracked your brain for that one huh? Nice one dude, I'll try it out!
[23:21] <EriC^^> Aramil: mount it and copy it
[23:21] <EriC^^> ki7rw: it's really odd, those are just .desktop files, no idea how they would delete a dir in your home
[23:22] <AR45> daftykins: na wasted a bunch of money
[23:22] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: it needs some fixing hold on
[23:23] <AR45> daftykins: Supports DVI-D with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
[23:23] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: in case it can't download it or something so it doesn't rm the file
[23:23] <Aramil> EriC^^: thanks it will take a while had near 300gb of stuff backed up
[23:23] <daftykins> AR45: ah so the on-die intel can only do single link huh 0o
[23:23] <daftykins> that sucks
[23:24] <Spec-Chum> Aramil, you could just add the current /home partition to your fstab
[23:25] <Spec-Chum> but if you really do need them on the same partition then yes, just copy it
[23:25] <Aramil> i just hope i can get it done soon storms is a coming
[23:26] <Spec-Chum> Aramil, make sure you remove any reference of the old /home partition in fstab if it's currently in there
[23:26] <Spec-Chum> after you copy it, obviously
[23:27] <daftykins> Aramil: why not just wait then :>
[23:27] <AR45> daftykins: my mother board only supports DVI-D with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
[23:27] <daftykins> well not your mobo but the graphics from the CPU more likely
[23:28] <AR45> daftykins: supports HDMI with max. resolution 4096 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz
[23:28] <EriC^^> Zaitzev: nevermind, just use && rm instead of ; rm it's not really safe against if the file suddenly becomes a 404 page or something, but in case it couldn't copy for some reason you'd still have the file it downloaded first
[23:28] <Zaitzev> I got it
[23:28] <AR45> daftykins: remember the monitor with the hdmi is working perfectly well that's why
[23:29] <AR45> daftykins: problem is there's only 1 hdmi port
[23:29] <AR45> daftykins: are you sure
[23:30] <ModelEngine> Hello, is it possible to download HexChat for Lubuntu?
[23:30] <EriC^^> ModelEngine: yeah, sudo apt-get install hexchat
[23:30] <k1l_> ModelEngine: "sudo apt-get install hexchat"
[23:30] <ModelEngine> EriC^^: super thanks
[23:31] <ModelEngine> also, is it possible to put custome apps on my Plank dock?
[23:31] <Spec-Chum> AR45, the HDMI port on your mobo will be using the IGP on the CPU
[23:32] <AR45> IGP?
[23:32] <Spec-Chum> Integrated Graphics Processor
[23:32] <daftykins> integrated/intel graphics processor
[23:32] <daftykins> AR45: doesn't matter either way i guess, you're out of luck
[23:33] <Spec-Chum> what's he trying to do?
[23:33] <ModelEngine> IGP, isn't that onboard graphics?
[23:33] <daftykins> i should think an i-series CPU would handle dual link DVI, but perhaps the motherboard doesn't have a dual link socket
[23:33] <Spec-Chum> missed the actual Q
[23:33] <Spec-Chum> ModelEngine, yes
[23:33] <Horse> hello does anyone know if there is a new version of ubuntu coming out soon
[23:33] <daftykins> Spec-Chum: run 2 x 2560x1600 LCDs from on-die graphics
[23:33] <daftykins> one over HDMI, second over DVI
[23:33] <EriC^^> !wily
[23:33] <k1l_> Horse: there just was a release.
[23:33] <k1l_> !releases | Horse
[23:33] <daftykins> but it sounds like the motherboard manufacturer only put a single link DVI socket on
[23:34] <Bashing-om> Horse: A new version is released every 6 months .
[23:34] <Horse> ok will i have 14.04 version was wondering if there is one out or coming out soon
[23:35] <Spec-Chum> ah right, not sure about that
[23:35] <AR45> daftykins: so what the hell
[23:36] <AR45> daftykins: even if I got a hdmi splitter it wouldn't work
[23:36] <daftykins> pretty sure you cannot drive two displays from one socket
[23:37] <Spec-Chum> AR45, that'd output the same to both monitors anyway, surely not what you want?
[23:37] <daftykins> your only choice would be displayport daisy-chaining, which your displays would likely not support
[23:37] <daftykins> so it's graphics card time for you
[23:37] <AR45> FUCK
[23:37] <AR45> sorry
[23:37] <AR45> sorry guys
[23:37] <Horse> no problem
[23:38] <mectors> 7147 with lots of goodies. Where are you?
[23:38] <AR45> I was on the phone so I wasn't communicating properly.
[23:38] <AR45> So it's an intel 4600 onboard chip
[23:38] <daftykins> yeah haswell GT2
[23:38] <AR45> HD Graphics 4600 they call it
[23:38] <daftykins> kinda surprised you're getting by without a proper card anyway
[23:39] <Spec-Chum> oh I dunno, the 4600 is quite the powerhouse for an IGP
[23:39] <Spec-Chum> my laptop has one
[23:39]  * daftykins chuckles
[23:40] <AR45> dammit
[23:40] <Spec-Chum> it's also got a Nvidia GTX860M but it never uses it on linux
[23:40] <AR45> I'm guessing I have to get myself a NVIDIA GFX Card.
[23:41] <AR45> daftykins: http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/H97PLUS/specifications/
[23:41] <daftykins> yip
[23:41] <daftykins> socket is dual-link
[23:41] <ki7rw> is there a way for 2 bluetooth headsets to share the same source?
[23:41] <daftykins> AR45: give me your CPU model?
[23:42] <AR45> daftykins: i5-4590
[23:44] <ModelEngine> is there a way to config hex chat to auto join #ubuntu?
[23:44] <Guest12381> yea
[23:44] <AR45> ModelEngine: more than likely
[23:44] <Guest12381> in the auto join tab, when setting up network
[23:44] <ModelEngine> like a fav list or something for my fav channels
[23:44] <Spec-Chum> ModelEngine, yeah, right click -> autojoin
[23:44] <ModelEngine> cool, thanks guys
[23:45] <Guest12381> will installing a setting to MBR with grub-customizer be certain to show all available operating systems at startup?
[23:46] <Guest12381> when grub is installed ofcf
[23:46] <Guest12381> ofc*
[23:46] <EriC^^> Guest12381: no grub setting is set in the mbr
[23:46] <Guest12381> so grub settings are already stored in the mbt
[23:46] <Guest12381> mbr*
[23:46] <Guest12381> ?
[23:47] <EriC^^> no, they're stored in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:47] <Guest12381> but the mbr has a copy?
[23:47] <Guest12381> or just accesses /boot partition when booting
[23:47] <EriC^^> no, the mbr just has the bootloader
[23:47] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:47] <Guest12381> so all boot files are in the /boot folder/partition and the mbr just reads that information?
[23:48] <EriC^^> yeah
[23:48] <ModelEngine> i'm pretty surprised regarding the lack of swearing and flamming on here.
[23:48] <Guest12381> cool , thanks
[23:48] <ModelEngine> is that due to it being moderated?
[23:48] <james_> hello there
[23:48] <daftykins> AR45: well that's a surprise to me, nope no dual-link DVI off the motherboard at all. The only options for high-res is HDMI, or having a board with displayport which obviously that one isn't
[23:48] <ModelEngine> is it moderated in real-time?
[23:49] <Guest12381> is what moderated?
[23:49] <AR45> Cool looks like I have to take some parts back.
[23:49] <daftykins> AR45: but you can drive one display from the HDMI there still and get even a super budget end card and have the second from there
[23:49] <AR45> They are all under 30 day warranty
[23:49] <ModelEngine> this channel?
[23:49] <daftykins> AR45: though i think i'd prefer a card both could come off for simplicity
[23:49] <Guest12381> yea ofc
[23:49] <Guest12381> read /topic
[23:49] <daftykins> ModelEngine: this place gets its fair share of trolls.
[23:49] <daftykins> some, it seems, have a problem with volunteer provided free help :(
[23:49] <ModelEngine> really? crazy. i don't know if ive ever seen a really bad batch of ppl on here
[23:50] <ModelEngine> is there a way to eject 'bad apples'?
[23:50] <Guest12381> bad apples?
[23:50] <AR45> daftykins: I was planning on getting a gfx card to run some games anyways.
[23:51] <ModelEngine> ppl swearing and such
[23:51] <Guest12381> yea, /kick command
[23:51] <ModelEngine> cool
[23:51] <Guest12381> only for operators though
[23:51] <ModelEngine> rats
[23:51] <ModelEngine> :)\
[23:51] <AR45> daftykins: The store has a 750TI for 159 bucks, not too sure how it benchmarks
[23:51] <daftykins> ModelEngine: if you see some idiots, join #ubuntu-ops and report them.
[23:51] <ModelEngine> cool thanks dafty
[23:52] <daftykins> AR45: mmm, not too bad i guess. bear in mind that card requires some slight fiddling to get running on 14.04
[23:52] <AR45> I'm using 15.05
[23:52] <AR45> I'm using 15.04*
[23:53] <daftykins> alright, you'll still need to install an nvidia 340+ driver for that one
[23:53] <AR45> daftykins: http://www.microcenter.com/product/354355/GeForce_8400_GS_1024MB_DDR3_PCIe_20_x16_Video_Card
[23:54] <daftykins> nah 8400GS are ghetto as
[23:54] <AR45> daftykins: recommend something man
[23:54] <daftykins> nah
[23:54] <AR45> o_o
[23:54] <daftykins> plus you didn't say the magic word even!
[23:54] <daftykins> but no i'm too busy right now
[23:54] <daftykins> ask ##hardware perhaps
[23:54] <AR45> daftykins: what are you using?
[23:55] <daftykins> a 7 year old PC :)
[23:56] <AR45> Oh!
[23:57] <grend> hi folks
[23:57] <daftykins> hello again grend
[23:57] <grend> daftykins: http://pastie.org/private/vcevio4jhhsm6cglolga
[23:57] <grend> :)
[23:57] <daftykins> what happened with your faulty hard disk situation?
[23:58] <grend> well I am awake now and I managed to boot up using live cd
[23:58] <grend> and run a test
[23:58] <daftykins> hmm that appears to only be a partial smartctl output
[23:58] <daftykins> smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit