[15:53] <slickymaster> ok Unit193, thanks for the heads-up. I'll start fixing the appendix-packages.html and the ents
[16:01] <bluesabre> I'll work on the seed and meta package tonight so that its ready before the next meeting
[16:01] <krytarik> slickymaster: For that matter, the only other place where those previous default apps appear is guide-default-apps.xml.
[16:20] <slickymaster> sorry krytarik, was in a hangout
[16:20] <krytarik> Fancy. :)
[16:20] <slickymaster> yeah, it's a hobgoblin idea 
[16:20] <slickymaster> for us at teh FC
[16:20] <krytarik> lol
[16:21] <slickymaster> but as I have a louse webcam almost barely recognised by xubuntu I'm only able to hear and be heard
[16:21] <slickymaster> they can't see me
[16:21] <slickymaster> s/louse/lousy
[16:21] <krytarik> Lucky you. :P
[16:22] <slickymaster> :)
[16:33] <Unit193> slickymaster: Alrighty-o.
[16:56] <slickymaster> Unit193, I'll remove Abiword and Gnumeric from appendix-packages but we still don't have a final decision of what we're going to had from LO
[17:04] <slickymaster> another thing Unit193, what's the ordering logic behind Application table section, if any?
[17:12] <krytarik> slickymaster: Seems to be by package name, then friendly name.
[17:15] <slickymaster> yerah krytarik, figured it out in the meantime
[17:15] <slickymaster> but thanks anyway ;)
[17:16] <slickymaster> Unit193, there's also the issue with Gimp replacement, a decision hasn't been made yet
[17:16] <krytarik> slickymaster: And maybe we should just refer to LibreOffice as a whole there.
[17:16] <slickymaster> there, where? krytarik 
[17:17] <krytarik> There won't be any replacement for Gimp for the time being.
[17:17] <krytarik> slickymaster: That table, plus guide-default-apps.xml.
[17:18] <slickymaster> not so sure about that krytarik, at least I don't remember us taking any final decisions concerning it
[17:18] <krytarik> We couldn't come up with a viable replacement, but decided to drop Gimp regardless.
[17:20] <slickymaster> yes, that I remember krytarik, what I'm not so sure is if it was a closed deal, to not add a replacement to the seed
[17:21] <slickymaster> the same goes for which package of LO we'll be seeding, besides Wirter and Calc
[17:22] <slickymaster> Draw was one possibility
[17:22] <slickymaster> iirc
[17:22] <krytarik> Yep, the latter has to be figured out and decided still.
[17:24] <slickymaster> I'm just going to edit those parts that relate to Abiword/Writer and Gnuimeric/Calc and remove Gimp from guide-default-apps and correct the entities file
[17:30] <slickymaster> ochosi ^^
[17:36] <elfy> slickymaster: from the m,eeting logs and the following m/l votes - appears to be a tie completely
[17:36] <elfy> that's 3/3/3 for/against/abstain
[17:40] <slickymaster> yeah, that's my point, a final decision has yet to be taken
[17:40] <Unit193> bluesabre: Important changes?
[17:41] <elfy> well, assuming those figures are right - we shouldn't drop it
[17:42] <slickymaster> yeah droping it just for the sake of it and not providing a replacment wouldn't be a good move
[17:42] <elfy> well
[17:42] <krytarik> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-April/010707.html
[17:43] <Unit193> There is no good replacement, so it'd just be dropping.
[17:43] <Unit193> Images are oversized now.
[17:43] <elfy> krytarik: thanks - I remember seeing that now
[17:43] <slickymaster> I wouldn't we provid Draw also
[17:43] <elfy> Unit193: in regard to what - some random number that was decided cycles ago? 
[17:44] <Unit193> Nah, not really useful.
[17:44] <slickymaster> why we, not Iwouldn't
[17:44] <Unit193> elfy: Not random, but yeah.
[17:44] <elfy> it's random now :p
[17:45] <slickymaster> are you telling that it's final and we won't be shipping any sort of a graphics solution?
[17:45] <elfy> looks that way 
[17:45] <slickymaster> and only Writer and Calc from LO?
[17:46] <Unit193> TBD.
[17:46] <slickymaster> !? what's TBD?! Unit193 
[17:46] <elfy> to be decided slickymaster 
[17:46] <slickymaster> lol, damn acronyms
[17:47] <elfy> lda
[17:47] <Unit193> unit193@Zeta:~$ wtf tbd
[17:47] <Unit193> TBD: to be {decided,determined,done}
[18:28] <slickymaster> Unit193, krytarik, knome. Pushed up to revision 382
[18:28] <slickymaster> want to check it?
[18:29] <krytarik> Sure.
[18:37] <krytarik> slickymaster: Looks fine to me - however, I'd refer there to the actual, full names of the apps displayed in the menus, i.e. "LibreOffice Calc", "LibreOffice Writer", and the likes.
[18:38] <slickymaster> you mean in the guide-default-apps?
[18:39] <krytarik> The app table, and there, yes.
[18:39]  * slickymaster will try not forget to correct them to the full names, after dinner
[18:39] <slickymaster> ;)
[18:41] <krytarik> But the list can grow long if we decide to include some other parts of LO as well. :P
[18:41] <elfy> or not if we don't :p
[18:42] <elfy> or could revert :p
[18:42] <krytarik> elfy: Specifically you wanted to include Impress too at least, iirc. :P
[18:42] <krytarik> (And I'd personally be in favor of that.)
[18:43] <krytarik> But there would still be Base, Draw, and Math then. :D
[18:45] <elfy> Math gets dragged in
[18:45] <elfy> I think ochosi was Impress
[18:46] <krytarik> Might be, yes.
[18:46] <elfy> which Math or Impress? 
[18:47] <krytarik> Impress.
[18:47] <elfy> because I know for fact that Math is currently dragged in :)
[18:47] <elfy> ack
[19:00] <micahg> weird, I'd expect calc to pull in math, not writer
[19:00] <micahg> and writer = 9.5M, math = 360k...not such a problem?
[19:01] <elfy> is it writer that pulls it? I didn't notice tbh - installed them at the same time
[19:01] <elfy> and yea - not a problem in the scheme of things I guess
[19:01] <micahg> reverse-depends libreoffice-math :)
[19:02] <elfy> yea - I tend not to do that when installing *my things* :p
[19:02] <elfy> micahg: though I suppose, logically math would be more useful for writer than calc 
[19:03] <elfy> anyway - 360k ... 
[20:01] <krytarik> slickymaster: Oh, and please update the translation templates too this time. :)
[21:28] <slickymaster> Done krytarik. Pushed up to revision 383