[00:56] <drkokandy> I like the idea from earlier of filing bugs against the manual. I was able to patch a few bugs in ubuntu server documentation once that might have been hard for the user to change him or herself.
[15:17] <wxl> Nairwolf: hai
[15:17] <Nairwolf> hi ;)
[15:18] <wxl> saw your email but haven't looked at the code i'm sorry to say
[15:18] <wxl> i'll study up on lxml and get back to you
[15:18] <wxl> ok?
[15:18] <wxl> feel fre to share it around, though
[15:19] <wxl> i know ianorlin and Kamilion both grok python
[15:19] <Nairwolf> okay, but you'll see my code isn't finished yet
[15:19] <ianorlin> hmm why wasn't I highligted there?
[15:19] <wxl> under stood
[15:20] <Nairwolf> I thought that information about broken links were children of node where there is the source of broken link.
[15:20] <Nairwolf> Not sure it's clear
[15:21] <wxl> that makes sense
[15:21] <Nairwolf> okay, as soon as, I'll have time, I will try to make more test on lxml
[15:22] <Nairwolf> what means "grok" ?
[15:23] <wxl> understand
[15:23] <wxl> it's from a book
[15:23] <wxl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok
[15:26] <Nairwolf> okay, nice ;)
[15:27] <Nairwolf> I hope oneday I'll grok python ;)
[15:27] <wxl> heheheh
[17:05] <gsilva> Hi guys
[17:10] <gsilva> brb
[17:54] <Kamilion> you rang?
[17:55] <wxl> naw, Kamilion. just telling florian he can ping off of you if he needs python help, too.
[17:55] <Kamilion> ah, a'right
[18:33] <wxl> !info qtqr
[19:38] <Kamilion> hm, how do I easily get a link for LP#1446767
[19:51] <Kamilion> hm so it'll just pick up bug 1447654 in plaintext
[22:12] <ianorlin> I found out it is possible but manual partitioning in ubiquity is quite difficult
[23:14] <Nairwolf> do you know how the development of the next release will be organized ?
[23:14] <wxl> Nairwolf: i think, from what i can tell so far, the next two releases will continue to be bug fix releases
[23:15] <wxl> in the background, of course, we'll be working on lxqt
[23:15] <Nairwolf> okay, but for 15.10 there will have gcc 5 and maybe python 3, no ?
[23:15] <Nairwolf> Oh, yes, lxqt, almost forget it
[23:15] <wxl> yes, but that's universal for all of the ubuntu ecosystem
[23:15] <Nairwolf> so, there will need some guys to test that
[23:16] <wxl> so it will be nice to not have to worry abotu those things at the same time
[23:16] <Nairwolf> okay, so, for this (gcc, python, and maybe snappy), it will be the ubuntu core team which will do that ?
[23:16] <wxl> by that do you mean lxqt or gcc/py?
[23:17] <Nairwolf> for lxqt
[23:17] <wxl> well, they'll be involved in managing the transition for the core pieces
[23:17] <wxl> it may affect us but ultimately we'll probably just point the core team back at it
[23:17] <Nairwolf> the lubuntu-qa team will need to test that
[23:17] <wxl> and/or release team
[23:17] <wxl> yeah it's an ongoing thing
[23:17] <Nairwolf> okay, I see
[23:17] <wxl> just like with the systemd transition
[23:17] <wxl> which ultimately didn't affect us at all
[23:17] <wxl> i have high hopes honestly
[23:17] <wxl> also i prefer py3 so :)
[23:18] <Nairwolf> yes, me too
[23:19] <Nairwolf> and for the next release of lubuntu 14.04 ? (It's 14.04.3 I think). Any specific work ?
[23:24] <Nairwolf> I've read there are already daily ISO. Testing will always be "use the distrib and report any bugs" ?
[23:25] <Nairwolf> Because, I'm think to use 30Gb to install Lubuntu on my prod computer, and always save my Xubuntu system, in case of bugs.
[23:45] <Kamilion> O_o
[23:45] <Kamilion> 30GB? that seems a little large.
[23:45] <Kamilion> oh, the partition itself
[23:46] <Nairwolf> In fact, I've 85Go free in my computer
[23:47] <Kamilion> Go?
[23:47]  * Kamilion thinks
[23:47] <Kamilion> Gigaoctets? What a strange way to describe it.
[23:47] <Nairwolf> why ?
[23:47] <Nairwolf> How do you write this ?
[23:47] <Kamilion> I havn't heard of anyone using Octal since the DEC Alphas running Compuserve
[23:48] <Nairwolf> Maybe, I use the french format...
[23:48] <Kamilion> Oh, I see.
[23:48] <Nairwolf> oh, sorry, Gparted told me it's Gio
[23:48] <Kamilion> Standard would probably be gibibits or gibibytes
[23:48] <Kamilion> Gib or GiB
[23:48] <Nairwolf> It's not what I've on Gparted
[23:49] <Kamilion> versus Gigabits or Gigabytes, which != Gibibits/Gibibytes
[23:49] <Nairwolf> If I right, 1 Go = 10^9 octols, right ?
[23:49] <Kamilion> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibibyte
[23:49] <Kamilion> giga is 1000, gibi is 1024
[23:50] <Nairwolf> okay, in french we always say Giga, but, I suppose it means Gibi
[23:50] <Kamilion> so gigaoctet is same as gibibit
[23:51] <Kamilion> as gigaoctet implies 1024
[23:51] <Kamilion> not 1000
[23:51] <Nairwolf> yes, for me, gigaocte implies 1024 and not 1000.
[23:51] <Kamilion> bleh. SI prefixes are so unfun.
[23:52] <Nairwolf> in fact, in french language we never use Gibi
[23:52] <Kamilion> Gigabytes (1000) are used by the hardware manufacturers
[23:52] <Kamilion> Gibibytes (1024) are used by the software providers
[23:52] <Nairwolf> And it's always bytes
[23:53] <Nairwolf> but we say "Gigaoctet"
[23:53] <Nairwolf> octet = byte
[23:53] <Kamilion> there's gigabit as well, divide gigabyte by 8
[23:53] <Kamilion> or multiply gigabit by 8 to reach byte
[23:53] <Nairwolf> Yes, I know that
[23:53] <Kamilion> at least the french representation is mathmatically more correct than gigabyte
[23:53] <Kamilion> :)
[23:54] <Nairwolf> And sometimes bad company use the term of Gigabits in order to loose consumer.
[23:54] <Kamilion> well, the context is normally different
[23:54] <Kamilion> bytes are normally used for storage, bits are normally used for transfers
[23:54] <Nairwolf> I not sure because we always say Giga, you can never say if it's 1000 or 1024. You need to precise if you want to make some calculs
[23:55] <Kamilion> so it is normal for networking to say megabit or gigabit, where it is not normal for storage to say megabit or gigabit unless they are indicating transfer speeds
[23:56] <Kamilion> computer history is strange :)
[23:56] <Nairwolf> No, I speak about storages in USB, Ipad, or Ithings. They use Gb, and I'm sure that the average people don't know the difference. Because, of course X Go is bigger than X Gb
[23:56] <Kamilion> Flash memory is often specified in megabits
[23:57] <Nairwolf> hum, yes, it's true
[23:57] <Kamilion> as a result of the 4096 bit page size
[23:57] <Kamilion> and they will always have exact multiples
[23:57] <Kamilion> unlike hard discs, which have varying sectors per track and may not end up on a whole multiple
[23:58] <Kamilion> or allocate some space internally for firmware use (common on western digitals)
[23:58] <Nairwolf> oh, I understand why you didn't understand firstly. Because first time I write this wrong (Gb), and then I use the french representation (Go as octet means byte) ;) I'm too tired tonight
[23:59] <Kamilion> no worries, I've been on IRC for 20 years, not only can i speak typo, I'm also used to international chatters
[23:59] <Nairwolf> yes, it's true what you say about western digitals
[23:59] <Kamilion> i was around for the big "am brazil" invasion of efnet long ago
[23:59] <Nairwolf> I've been on IRC for less one year ;)