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| pitti | Good morning | 04:48 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 06:23 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks, ça va ? | 06:34 |
| didrocks | pitti: bonjour pitti. ça va, et toi ? | 06:36 |
| pitti | didrocks: je vais bien aussi ! c'était un grand dimanche, beaucoup du soleil (et de la glace ☺ ) | 06:39 |
| pitti | didrocks: we went to a "Tribute to George Gershwin" concert on Friday, and to bowling on Saturday | 06:40 |
| pitti | ^ my best games so far, I was on fire :) | 06:40 |
| didrocks | yeah, I saw your post on g+, well done! :) | 06:42 |
| willcooke | morning | 07:24 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 07:26 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers, didrocks, willcooke | 07:36 |
| didrocks | re seb128 | 07:36 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 07:41 |
| seb128 | hey pitti, wie gehts? | 07:41 |
| pitti | seb128: prima, danke! | 07:43 |
| Laney | ahoy! | 08:03 |
| willcooke | pip pip | 08:03 |
| didrocks | morning Laney | 08:05 |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how are you? good w.e? | 08:06 |
| Laney | hey fellas | 08:08 |
| Laney | It was three days but I don't entirely remember what I did on Saturday | 08:08 |
| Laney | wtf | 08:08 |
| Laney | anyway the other days were nice, climbing and seeing friends! | 08:08 |
| Laney | the staying up all night bit was not so fun in the end | 08:09 |
| larsu | Laney: because of the result? | 08:10 |
| Laney | ya | 08:10 |
| Laney | quite a few big beasts lost their seats which I guess was interesting in a schadenfreude kind of way | 08:11 |
| larsu | ah right, you don't have that list thing going on that we have in addition to direct candidates | 08:11 |
| Laney | nop | 08:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you know if we have details on what can go to restricted and how you target that section? | 08:16 |
| seb128 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu states but " Supported software that is not available under a completely free license." but that's not really explaining a lot of the details | 08:16 |
| Laney | the normal way when you accept the new packages no? | 08:16 |
| Laney | I thought that it was only meant to be non free drivers though | 08:17 |
| seb128 | right | 08:17 |
| seb128 | happyaron is asking because he wants to get some IM things there | 08:17 |
| Laney | is it redistributable? | 08:17 |
| seb128 | I'm unsure about the details | 08:18 |
| seb128 | they include binaries in the deb that are not built from the source/on our infrastructure | 08:19 |
| seb128 | the copyright states | 08:19 |
| seb128 | "The binary package (without modification) is freely redistributable | 08:19 |
| seb128 | for non-commercial purpose," | 08:19 |
| Laney | freely (not freely) | 08:20 |
| Laney | I guess talk with the rest of the archive team | 08:20 |
| seb128 | right | 08:21 |
| seb128 | thanks Laney | 08:21 |
| Laney | is there going to be some UI way to install this? | 08:21 |
| seb128 | I think they would like a checkbox in ubiquity | 08:35 |
| === davidcalle_ is now known as davidcalle | ||
| dholbach | hiya | 10:09 |
| dholbach | can somebody please take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-themes/mate-fixes/+merge/229649? | 10:09 |
| seb128 | hey dholbach | 10:10 |
| seb128 | Laney or larsu can probably help you | 10:10 |
| dholbach | <3 | 10:11 |
| dholbach | thanks seb128, Laney and larsu | 10:11 |
| Laney | dholbach: I think the review requested on 2015-05-05 was by me. ;-) | 10:14 |
| dholbach | ah yes | 10:15 |
| larsu | I hate MRs that don't explain what they do | 10:15 |
| larsu | "Add MATE compatibility" :/ | 10:15 |
| larsu | caja is their renamed nautilus? | 10:19 |
| Laney | ya | 10:20 |
| larsu | to be honest, I'd prefer it if mate shipped its own theme | 10:20 |
| seb128 | that's a valid position, feel free to comment saying that | 10:21 |
| larsu | we already have a apps/nautilus.rc - and now we need to add caja just because they didn't like the name? | 10:21 |
| seb128 | we can also symlink if that's easy? | 10:22 |
| larsu | which gets loaded for everyone (even non-mate users) | 10:22 |
| seb128 | or can't they get their fork to load nautilus.css? | 10:22 |
| larsu | seb128: no, the file contains references to the renamed widgets... | 10:22 |
| willcooke | there would be less maintenance for us too if they shipped their own right? | 10:22 |
| seb128 | oh, right, they renamed code/widgets | 10:22 |
| larsu | willcooke: ya. They forked all the things and renamed widget classes and such, which is why this is an issue | 10:22 |
| seb128 | less maintenance +1 | 10:23 |
| larsu | I mean, it's totally not a big deal to ship this one thing of course | 10:23 |
| seb128 | if we can support them at low cost we should | 10:23 |
| larsu | I guess I'm making a slippery slope argument | 10:23 |
| seb128 | but if they create work they should maintain it, it would also make them not block on us for review/upload | 10:23 |
| larsu | but I really think they'd be better off with their own theme (including faster turn around for them, which is something they're complaining about) | 10:23 |
| seb128 | +1 | 10:23 |
| larsu | and I don't feel I'm in the right position to test this properly (would have to install mate etc) | 10:24 |
| larsu | the icon symlinks are a good idea I guess, but would be moot after we move to -symbolic, which is something other desktops have been asking about as well | 10:25 |
| larsu | and it's something I wanted to look at this cycle anyway (hi ochosi ;) ) | 10:25 |
| Laney | pretty sure that they already forked the themes | 10:25 |
| Laney | this would only be interesting if we were going to merge again | 10:25 |
| larsu | Laney: do you think that would be worthwhile? | 10:26 |
| Laney | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-artwork/0.4.7 | 10:26 |
| larsu | I'm only arguing slippery slope here - this is really not that big of a deal | 10:26 |
| larsu | is someone of the MATE devs around? | 10:26 |
| Laney | If someone can get added to the team so they can fix/review themselves then maybe | 10:28 |
| Laney | that'll be flexiondotorg | 10:28 |
| Laney | (not added right now, but soon) | 10:29 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg: hey, what are your plans regarding the theme (see scrollback)? You forked it, but want to merge again? | 10:30 |
| larsu | Laney: I really think it'd be easier if they had a fork to make sure we don't step on each other's toes. We don't check if our changes break MATE (and probably not the other way around either) | 10:31 |
| Laney | okay | 10:32 |
| larsu | let's wait for their rationale thoguh | 10:32 |
| GunnarHj | Hi seb128! | 10:34 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Did you see my latest comment at bug #1443178? | 10:34 |
| ubot5 | bug 1443178 in accountsservice (Ubuntu) "Accounts Service always relies on language fallback if never set by the user" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1443178 | 10:34 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey, on the phone | 10:38 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ok, thanks for letting me know. | 10:39 |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | ||
| popey | \o/ filed my first wily bug :) - Can someone on vivid see if it's new to wily or also on vivid? bug 1453763 | 11:04 |
| ubot5 | bug 1453763 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Unable to differentiate between toggled and untoggled buttons" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1453763 | 11:04 |
| larsu | popey: same issue in vivid. The gradient is different, but I agree that it's hard to spot. I'll reassign to the theme | 11:08 |
| larsu | s/spot/discern | 11:09 |
| larsu | and I guess we need a design task for this as well... | 11:09 |
| flexiondotorg | Laney, seb128, dholbach, larsu, willcooke - Ubuntu MATE does have it's own forked versions of the light themes. | 11:28 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg: so the MR we were looking at is obsolete? | 11:28 |
| flexiondotorg | The merge proposal was just to add basic compatibility to Ambiance and Radiance. | 11:28 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, Well, it is old. I don;t know it will apply cleanly. | 11:28 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg: regardless of whether it applies, why do you think we need compatibility if you have your own theme? | 11:29 |
| mpt | Trevinho, hi, could you possibly take a minute to answer the last commenter’s question in bug 1308800? | 11:29 |
| ubot5 | bug 1308800 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity doesn't respawn all the times on crashes" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308800 | 11:29 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, Mainly because you can just install MATE from the repos but not use Ubuntu MATE. In that case the panels are not correctly rendered by Ambiance and Radiance. | 11:30 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg: hm - that means we'll always have to mirror the themes, right? | 11:32 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, Yes, I am merging changes to the ubuntu-mate-artwork package periodically. | 11:33 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, There are some changes I am carrying that are probably not suitable for Ambiance and Radiance so I can't see that we can unify them. | 11:34 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, But the minor tweak to get MATE working with Ambiance and Radiance will be fine to merge. | 11:34 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg: but using Ambiance on mate will give a subpar experience anyway... | 11:35 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, No, it works well. Just the panel issue really. | 11:37 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, What do you forsee as subpar? | 11:37 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg: well, you do have a fork, so presumably that's what you want people to use, no? | 11:38 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg: that merge request contains much more than the panel issue | 11:38 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, The fork was mostly because of the panel issue to start with. Since then I've overridden the symbolic icons with full color icons and changed the orange highlighting to green. | 11:39 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, In essence Amiant-MATE and Radiant-MATE are 99% of Ambiance and Radiance. Just with green hinting and full colour icons. | 11:39 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg: so it seems that merging the panel fixes into Ambiance is enough? | 11:41 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, Yes. I think so. | 11:41 |
| larsu | flexiondotorg: that sounds much more reasonable. Mind updating the MR (or making a new one)? | 11:42 |
| flexiondotorg | larsu, OK. I'll do it sometime this week. | 11:42 |
| larsu | thanks | 11:42 |
| larsu | Laney: I guess there's no upstream bug for the menubar patches we have in totem? | 12:07 |
| larsu | there doesn't even seem to be a launchpad bug? | 12:08 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| Laney | larsu: I can't remember, sorry, darkxst did them | 12:08 |
| larsu | no worries | 12:09 |
| larsu | just working my way through this issue just now | 12:09 |
| Laney | I guess we could submit it once this issue is fixed and see what happens | 12:09 |
| larsu | right | 12:10 |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | ||
| Trevinho | mpt: sure | 12:50 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| Laney | desrt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11078996/ ? | 13:11 |
| Laney | (tracker's testsuite broke with new glib) | 13:11 |
| Laney | also, and more importantly, hello! | 13:11 |
| desrt | good morning :) | 13:12 |
| Laney | good weekend? | 13:12 |
| desrt | Laney: who wrote this patch? | 13:12 |
| Laney | me | 13:12 |
| desrt | Laney: yup | 13:12 |
| Laney | think of it as an opening offer | 13:12 |
| desrt | your patch is suspicious... | 13:13 |
| desrt | ah. i think it's right, though | 13:13 |
| Laney | this: https://git.gnome.org/browse/tracker/tree/tests/libtracker-miner/tracker-monitor-test.c#n638 is what breaks | 13:14 |
| desrt | i just wonder about the case directly above | 13:14 |
| Laney | we now get a MOVED instead of DELETED | 13:14 |
| desrt | i guess we have a testcase that expects non-NULL 'other' for MOVED events? | 13:14 |
| Laney | indeed | 13:14 |
| desrt | seems perfectly reasonable | 13:14 |
| desrt | thanks! | 13:14 |
| Laney | you want a bug? | 13:14 |
| desrt | not the first small issue like this that has been found in that monster tower of switch statements | 13:15 |
| desrt | please do | 13:15 |
| Laney | okay | 13:15 |
| * Laney goes to put shorts on first (H) | 13:15 | |
| Laney | apparently it's 19 | 13:16 |
| davmor2 | Laney: no it's definitely the 11th not the 19th | 13:18 |
| * Laney draws a willy on davmor2's back in mayonnaise and ties him out under the sun | 13:18 | |
| Laney | hush! | 13:18 |
| davmor2 | Laney: what sun it's cloudy here | 13:19 |
| Laney | :( the west midlands :( | 13:19 |
| davmor2 | Laney: oh oh oh SUN admittedly between levels of cloud but SUN :) | 13:21 |
| davmor2 | ah gone again | 13:21 |
| * Laney is going to eat lunch outside | 13:23 | |
| didrocks | enjoy Laney! | 13:23 |
| Laney | didrocks: !!! | 13:23 |
| Laney | http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2996944 is this true? | 13:23 |
| didrocks | Laney: yeah, that's why I delayed my run for at least another hour :p | 13:29 |
| didrocks | no cloud though from my window, just sun | 13:29 |
| mitya57 | desrt: Hi, what is the status of bug 1222053? I see it's linked to a blueprint – does that mean you are still going to implement it? | 14:08 |
| ubot5 | bug 1222053 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "per-session gsettings overrides" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222053 | 14:08 |
| desrt | mitya57: in theory it's on my TODO list :) | 14:08 |
| mitya57 | desrt: Good! Are you going to use Alberts' patch or do it in a different way? | 14:09 |
| desrt | the patch i reviewed was insufficient for the reasons i mentioned in the review | 14:09 |
| desrt | so it won't go... | 14:09 |
| mitya57 | Ok, thanks | 14:09 |
| nessita | tseliot, hey, last week I reported issues with the ubuntu splash screen and the passphrase for unlocking the hard drive, still having the issue, this is the logs you requested from last Friday https://pastebin.canonical.com/131051/ | 14:30 |
| nessita | tseliot, this is from today https://pastebin.canonical.com/131121/. On boot, the splash screen looks "ugly" and the prompt for drive encryption password is not shown until I touch some key from the keyboard | 14:31 |
| nessita | when I do that, and enter the correct passphrase, the splash screen gets stuck with a blinking cursor (it does not finish booting at all) | 14:32 |
| Laney | Trevinho: gnome-session is (should be) fixed again in vivid-proposed btw | 14:59 |
| Laney | just saw your comment | 14:59 |
| * Laney copies that to wubbly walrus | 15:00 | |
| * qengho afk lunch with son. | 15:02 | |
| Trevinho | Laney: thanks | 15:07 |
| Laney | Trevinho: can you close that other alt-f2 environment bug if it's fixed by this? | 15:07 |
| Trevinho | Laney: we'd need to include in the gnome-session upstart script a way to export the XDG_MENU_PREFIX | 15:08 |
| Trevinho | Laney: I need to check it | 15:08 |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| Laney | ok, no idea what XDG_MENU_PREFIX is so I'll wait and see the patch ;) | 15:10 |
| Trevinho | Laney: as far I've seen that's the only env variable that is not exported when running in upstart... It should be exported by gnome-session from my first google searches, but I need to check further | 15:10 |
| Trevinho | mh, nope... | 15:12 |
| Trevinho | oh, really it is... https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/scm-commits/2012-October/886745.html | 15:14 |
| Laney | schroot -e --all-sessions | 15:41 |
| Laney | <accidentally kills 20 minute old build> | 15:41 |
| Laney | $"£($"(£&$"£( | 15:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, stop using the hammer ;-) | 15:44 |
| * Laney so lazy | 15:46 | |
| * Laney wonders why restoring from trash in nautilus is broken on his desktop | 15:48 | |
| Laney | but not laptop | 15:48 |
| Laney | the trashinfo file is right | 15:53 |
| * qengho back | 16:08 | |
| mitya57 | desrt: One more question: can you please reply something to Alberts' comments in gnome #746592? | 16:38 |
| mitya57 | (We need to make some decisions on what to do for this cycle in Flashback session, so we want to at least know what the plan is.) | 16:38 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 746592 in gsettings "Support for per-session overrides" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746592 | 16:38 |
| tseliot | nessita: sorry but I don't see anything suspicious in the logs | 16:54 |
| * didrocks is listening at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/meeting/22439/ubuntu-component-store/ and at each aquarius' comment, I'm basically "+1" | 16:57 | |
| nessita | tseliot, hey, thanks. How can we debug further? I can not login to the desktop from this installation | 16:59 |
| nessita | tseliot, will a screencats help? the only option I have so far is booting on recovery mode, then trying to run failsafeX option, which does not work, hitting CTRL+C on the booting screen and waiting for X to restart enough times it will show the lightdm screen | 17:00 |
| tseliot | nessita: last time you mentioned a bug report about plymouth, didn't you? | 17:01 |
| tseliot | nessita: so my question is, does plymouth work correctly if you uninstall the nvidia driver ( with --purge remove)? | 17:06 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | ||
| Laney | laters! | 17:27 |
| * Laney goes to enjoy the end of the sun | 17:27 | |
| nessita | tseliot, so the bug I mentioned on Friday was LP: #1359689 | 17:54 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1359689 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "cryptsetup password prompt not shown" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1359689 | 17:54 |
| nessita | tseliot, I can try cleaning up nvidida drivers and rebooting, will do so when I'm close to EOD (right now I have too much local setups to loose) | 17:54 |
| nessita | tseliot, would you know by heart the package name I need to purge? | 17:54 |
| tseliot | nessita: try with sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia-340 | 18:27 |
| nessita | tseliot, ack, thanks! | 18:28 |
| willcooke | g'night all | 20:24 |
| willcooke | cheers robert_ancell | 20:24 |
| === greyback__ is now known as greyback | ||
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