[05:44] <barrydk> More almal
[06:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> hi Kilos 
[06:16] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  
[06:23]  * Kilos needs to restart
[06:31] <Padroni> morning
[06:36] <Kilos> hi Padroni  pieter2627  inetpro  plustwo  
[06:36] <Kilos> morning Guest87445  
[06:36] <Padroni> hola
[06:41] <pieter2627> morning Kilos 
[06:42] <pieter2627> and all others
[06:54] <Padroni> as a matter of interest
[06:54] <Padroni> http://thehackernews.com/2015/05/gpu-rootkit-linux-Keylogger.html
[06:54] <Padroni> not sure who all finds security interesting but I tend to follow these things
[06:55] <Kilos> ty Padroni  
[06:55] <Padroni> The Jellyfish one is interesting, as it utilizes the GPU processor and memory
[06:56] <Padroni> thereby avoiding detection 
[07:03] <mazal> Morning everyone
[07:03] <Kilos> hi mazal  
[07:36] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac  SDCDev  
[07:36] <TinuvaMac> morning Kilos and gents
[08:33] <Padroni> Mail Queues.  Dealing with hundreds of thousands of spam emails surgically removes any good weekend memories.
[08:33]  * Padroni sighs
[08:35] <Kilos> lol
[08:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> ew
[08:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> so glad I don't have to deal with mail, its a schlep
[08:37] <Padroni> you have no idea, mate
[08:37] <Padroni> how are you, ThatGraemeGuy?
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> I have some idea, I don't deal with it currently, but definitely been there, done that :-/
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> I'm good thanks, you? :)
[08:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> well, we know how you are :p
[08:38] <Padroni> hehe
[08:38] <Padroni> bottled a new batch of beer this weekend
[08:38] <Padroni> tried my hand at a lager this time
[08:38] <Padroni> surprisingly, this one fermented two days longer than usual
[08:38] <Padroni> so ABV = 4%
[08:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> colder weather perhaps?
[08:38] <Padroni> could be
[08:38] <Padroni> but that is actually better, imo
[08:39] <Padroni> If you are ever in CT area, let me know
[08:39] <Padroni> Will take you to Triggerfish
[08:39] <Padroni> Eric is a master brewer
[08:39] <Padroni> he has about 10 different types of beer on his menu at any given time
[08:40] <Padroni> even if beer isn't your thing, you should taste his
[08:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> i was in somerset west last weekend
[08:40] <Padroni> damnit Graeme
[08:40] <Padroni> that's close to me
[08:40] <Padroni> hope you didn't go swimming at the beach - red tide
[08:41] <Padroni> even the sharks are on a diet here at the moment
[08:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> no, stayed up at bezweni lodge and drank lots of wine
[08:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> without the kids, best part ;-p
[08:41] <Padroni> Koelenhof Pinorto
[08:41] <Padroni> if ever you have a chance - go to Koelenhof
[08:41] <Padroni> thank me later
[08:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> probably never
[08:42] <Padroni> best wine ever
[08:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> the wife isn't into wine much so we don't ever really go to farms
[08:42] <Padroni> ah but she will love that one
[08:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> in fact she doesn't really drink, wine or not
[08:42] <Padroni> oh
[08:42] <Padroni> bummer
[08:43] <Padroni> #designateddriverthen
[08:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> hahaha
[09:01] <Squirm> Morning
[09:02] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[09:35] <Spekko> Hello erribody
[09:36] <Kilos> lol hi plustwo  
[10:02] <stickyboy> Spekko: :P
[10:02] <stickyboy> Errbody in the club get tipsy
[10:13] <Padroni> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkuY_qDoVrI
[10:32] <inetpro> `good mornings
[10:52] <Kilos> morning inetpro  
[14:19] <arnaudmez> hi Kilos
[14:25] <Kilos> hi arnaudmez  
[14:44] <magespawn> good afternoon
[14:44] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[14:44] <magespawn> how are things Kilos?
[14:45] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[14:45] <magespawn> good thanks
[14:45] <magespawn> i have an interesting problem with a win machine
[14:45] <magespawn> but it looks like i might have solved it, just rebooting to test
[14:45] <Kilos> sjoe, lets hear
[14:46] <magespawn> the default explorer has been replaced by the POS one, in the registry
[14:46] <Kilos> get ccleaner
[14:47] <Kilos> it sorts registry and many other probs
[14:47] <Kilos> https://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
[14:47] <magespawn> when the computer is like this you cannot get online or browse files etc, unless you know the command
[14:47] <magespawn> http://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-explorer-exe-does-not-start
[14:47] <magespawn> you have to edit the registry by hand
[14:48] <Kilos> fetch it with another pc then transfer i over
[14:48] <Kilos> even with your fone maybe
[14:49] <magespawn> nah i have edited the registry already the pc is booting normally, now to test to make sure
[14:49] <Kilos> ok but then get ccleaner anyway
[14:49] <magespawn> yes and malewarebytes just to make sure
[14:49] <Kilos> yeah
[14:50] <Kilos> and avast
[14:50] <Kilos> and a bucket of patience
[15:06] <magespawn> back again
[15:07] <Kilos> wb
[15:08] <magespawn> fortunately, i am in a bar, so if it comes to drinking my problems away, i am spoilt for choice 
[15:08] <Kilos> hehe
[15:19] <magespawn> brb just switching computers
[15:24] <magespawn> right back again
[15:25] <Kilos> wb magespawn  
[15:25] <magespawn> thanks
[15:39] <magespawn> dinner time
[15:40] <Kilos> enjoy
[15:50] <magespawn> going to try an complete some of the codecademy courses i started
[15:56] <magespawn> doing the python one at the moment
[16:05] <arnaudmez> python ...
[16:05] <arnaudmez> hmmm good
[16:06] <arnaudmez> Try to eat it with chili sauce, you won't regret
[16:12] <Kilos> lol
[16:16] <magespawn> sweet chilli and garlic
[16:20] <stickyboy> Mannnnn
[16:20] <stickyboy> I want to drink my problems away.
[16:20] <Kilos> boyyy
[16:20] <Kilos> haha
[16:21] <Kilos> it doesnt work you just end up with a headache in the morning
[16:22] <stickyboy> Kilos: Tru
[16:22] <stickyboy> And I start flirting with girls on WhatsApp.
[16:22] <stickyboy> Not cool, man.
[16:22] <stickyboy> Better to drink coffee and hack Linux.
[16:22] <Kilos> you supposed to flirt even when you are sober
[16:22] <Kilos> but not online, face to face
[16:23] <stickyboy> True
[16:23] <stickyboy> Only dudes in my office right now though.
[16:23] <arnaudmez> I will think about going Tea and Hack Linux
[16:23] <arnaudmez> CLI for ever ... 
[16:23] <arnaudmez> Who here uses Linux at work ?
[16:24] <stickyboy> arnaudmez: Let's get tattoos, "LINUX 4 LYFE"
[16:24] <stickyboy> arnaudmez: I manage like 40 Linux servers at work. :P
[16:24] <arnaudmez> stickyboy: That's great ... that's the place i should be ...
[16:25] <arnaudmez> Not sitting in front of MS machine filling couples of forms, snorring and snorring and snorring
[16:26] <arnaudmez> One of the best thing i like is to manage Cisco, HP and even MS servers from my Linux box ... makes me feel like MoU
[16:28] <Kilos> hi Tonberry  
[16:28] <Tonberry> hi
[16:30] <magespawn> arnaudmez: i do, but mostly on my machine, most of the work machines are windows 
[16:33] <stickyboy> arnaudmez: You gotta be hardcore
[16:34] <stickyboy> Tell people FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK Windows.
[16:34] <stickyboy> :P
[16:34] <arnaudmez> magespawn: how do you feel things when you command those MS from LNX box
[16:35] <magespawn> arnaudmez: mostly desktops for people to work on, only one or two server machine, i do have a few centos boxes running asterisk
[16:35] <Trixar_za> Probably better than using a MCRSFT box
[16:35] <Trixar_za> :P
[16:37] <magespawn> whoever wrote this course spent a fair amount of time around monty python
[16:38] <Kilos> lol
[16:40] <arnaudmez> CentOs that's great
[16:46] <arnaudmez> brb
[16:51] <magespawn> my bed is calling me, chat tomorrow all
[16:52] <Kilos> night magespawn  
[16:52] <Kilos> sleep tight
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat
[17:28] <Kilos> hi octoquad  
[17:29] <octoquad> hey Kilos long time :)
[17:29] <Kilos> yeah man you naughty
[17:29] <octoquad> been so busy man :(
[17:29] <octoquad> work work
[17:30] <Kilos> ya thats life
[17:31] <octoquad> finally have some time again, so that's why I'm online. Did (I forgot his name) come right with the bug fix?
[17:32] <Kilos> oh my
[17:32] <Kilos> pieter i think it was
[17:32] <Kilos> i actually forgot to ask him
[17:33] <octoquad> yes I think that's his name
[17:33] <Kilos> that was the papercuts thing i think
[17:33] <octoquad> shame man, feel bad for not helping him out
[17:33] <Kilos> he will understand
[17:34] <octoquad> So some good news, launchpad is getting git integration. Should be a lot easier for folks to help contribute back to the web site.
[17:35] <Kilos> hehe im scared of github
[17:35] <Kilos> but guys like stickyboy  live there
[17:36] <octoquad> why you scared?
[17:36] <Kilos> its too much thinking
[17:36] <octoquad> hahaa
[17:36] <octoquad> compared to launchpad, I think launchpad makes you think more
[17:37] <octoquad> hehe
[17:37] <Kilos> ya i battled a bit there today as well
[17:37] <octoquad> Kilos, off on tangent, anything urgent to do on the trello board
[17:37] <octoquad> programming wise
[17:37] <Kilos> this etherpad thing the ubuntu peeps use
[17:37] <octoquad> ah
[17:37] <Kilos> oh my
[17:37] <Kilos> lets go see
[17:39] <Kilos> i thinks its ok atm, we just waiting for fly to do the last merge to the africa site
[17:39] <Kilos> then that can go in the done box
[17:39] <octoquad> ibid?
[17:39] <Kilos> ibid is running on inetpro  s server
[17:39] <Kilos> ec2
[17:40] <Kilos> he worked it out
[17:40] <octoquad> ok so thats handled
[17:40] <Kilos> there are libraries that are there in later ubuntus
[17:40] <octoquad> apt-offline
[17:40] <Kilos> im not sure what he did, maybe a vm thing
[17:40] <octoquad> ?
[17:40] <octoquad> ok
[17:41] <Kilos> i was going to look at that but been a bit busy too
[17:41] <Kilos> there is another thing there too for offline stuff
[17:42] <octoquad> create automated backup procedure of Trello board <- not to hard to automate
[17:42] <octoquad> ^ Can do that tonight
[17:42] <Kilos> the one below apt-offline
[17:42] <Kilos> cool the pro will be happy
[17:42] <Kilos> i removed something i shouldnt have hence the backup thing
[17:43] <Kilos> the pro has also been very busy
[17:43] <Kilos> doesnt even come for coffee anymore
[17:43] <octoquad> hehe
[17:43] <octoquad> Maaz, coffee please
[17:43] <Maaz> octoquad: There isn't a pot on
[17:44] <octoquad> ah
[17:44] <octoquad> :(
[17:44] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[17:44]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[17:44]  * octoquad smiles
[17:44] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee for all
[17:44] <Maaz> Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already. Just type in Maaz coffee please
[17:44] <octoquad> Maaz coffee please
[17:44] <Maaz> octoquad: Alrighty
[17:44] <Kilos> inetpro  coffee time
[17:45] <octoquad> Ok so apt-offline or Camicri Cube
[17:45] <octoquad> I can look at both this week. What's the goal though?
[17:45] <octoquad> just an easy way to distribute package updates offline for new users?
[17:45] <Kilos> the idea is for peeps that dont have net but still want ubuntu
[17:46] <octoquad> distribution points for offline updates as well?
[17:46] <Kilos> where
[17:46] <octoquad> not sure, but how will they get the updates if they don't have internet access?
[17:46] <Kilos> i think the idea was to get all needed updates and then go distribute them
[17:47] <octoquad> phew that's gigs worth of stuff
[17:47] <Kilos> maybe on externals or something
[17:47] <octoquad> latest release only or all active releases?
[17:47] <Kilos> yeah
[17:47] <Kilos> i dunno what pros idea was
[17:48] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and octoquad!
[17:48] <octoquad> ok, let me start looking at these two and I'll pro what the plan is when he's online
[17:48] <octoquad> wohoo thanks Maaz
[17:48] <Kilos> im only on lts and would also advise offline peeps to do the same
[17:48] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[17:48] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[17:48] <octoquad> Maaz needs some tweaking hehe
[17:48] <Maaz> octoquad: Sorry...
[17:48] <octoquad> you heard me Maaz
[17:48] <Kilos> lol
[17:48] <octoquad> hehe
[17:49] <octoquad> alright, let me get the automated Trello backup going.
[17:49] <Kilos> good to have you back
[17:49] <octoquad> good to be back :)
[18:02] <octoquad> hmm, what was the plan for this trello backup script, any details on where it will be stored i.e. FTP, local folder, git repository (autocommit and push)?
[18:02] <Kilos> lol i have no idea
[18:03] <Kilos> inetpro  ping
[18:03] <Kilos> watch he will arrive next week and go pong
[18:03] <octoquad> haha
[18:03] <inetpro> poing
[18:04] <Kilos> holy moly
[18:04] <octoquad> hey inetpro :)
[18:04] <Kilos> gonna rain
[18:04] <inetpro> hi octoquad
[18:04] <Kilos> are you well inetpro  ?
[18:04] <Kilos> and the family?
[18:06] <octoquad> inetpro, what was the plan for the trello backup script, where do you want to store it? (S)FTP, local folder, git repository (autocommit and push)?
[18:06] <inetpro> oh hi octoquad and Kilos
[18:06] <Kilos> rofl
[18:06] <inetpro> and good evening to everyone else
[18:06] <octoquad> lol
[18:07] <inetpro> octoquad: you work that one out for me please :-)
[18:07] <octoquad> ok, so no preference really
[18:07] <inetpro> nope
[18:07] <inetpro> was just a random thought, seeing that trello don't do any version controls
[18:08] <inetpro> not a major important issue because I do the odd wget thing
[18:09] <inetpro> and that is actually easy to put in a cron job as well
[18:09] <octoquad> I can write this a bash script and give instructions on how to install as a cron job
[18:09] <octoquad> ?
[18:09] <octoquad> yeah
[18:09] <octoquad> same page
[18:09] <octoquad> sure, I'll stick in some variables to make it customizable
[18:10] <inetpro> my thoughts were just to have it somewhere accessible by anyone else
[18:10] <inetpro> it's public info anyway
[18:10] <octoquad> I suppose a local git repo, with autocommit will suffice as well so we can go back in time if need be
[18:11] <octoquad> I'll work on a Trello JSON parser as well so you can use the backed up trello board and this script to work hand in hand
[18:12] <inetpro> sounds interesting
[18:13] <Kilos> eina
[18:13] <inetpro> Kilos: ?
[18:13] <octoquad> hot coffee?
[18:13] <Kilos> what he talks about hurts my head
[18:13] <inetpro> ai!
[18:13] <octoquad> haha
[18:14] <Kilos> im forgetting everything with all the work you loaded off on me
[18:26] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:31] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:39] <Kilos> ohi superfly  wb
[18:40] <superfly> me? I didn't go anywhere... or did I?
[18:40] <Kilos> lol
[18:42] <octoquad> hey superfly. How are you?
[18:42] <superfly> sup octoquad, I'm doing OK, how are things on your side?
[18:43] <octoquad> ok thanks, finally have some time for myself again. :)
[19:26] <stickyboy> Kilos: I drank two glasses of wine.
[19:26] <stickyboy> Oh man
[19:27] <Kilos> lol
[19:28] <stickyboy> Just merged a new post on the nairobilug blog.
[19:29] <Kilos> bout time you did something
[19:32] <stickyboy> https://nairobilug.or.ke/2015/05/pushing-two-git-remotes.html
[19:32] <stickyboy> Man, I work overtime. I'm like 50% of this LUG.
[19:33] <Kilos> lol
[19:33] <stickyboy> All the young guys are like sleeping or playing video games or something.
[19:33] <Kilos> i told you ubuntu locos are better than lugs
[19:33] <Kilos> we share the load
[19:34] <Kilos> we even welcomed you here
[19:37] <stickyboy> Kilos: Hey now.
[19:38] <Kilos> lol
[19:38] <stickyboy> We use git, you use bzr... so you better recognize!
[19:38] <stickyboy> Not to mention, you use Kenyan Ubuntu mirrors!
[19:38] <stickyboy> mannnnnnn
[19:39] <Kilos> with a za ubuntu guy managing them
[19:39] <Kilos> because the lug okes were too slack
[19:40] <Kilos> mannnnnn
[19:46] <stickyboy> ;)
[19:47] <Kilos> lol
[19:47] <stickyboy> Pushing teh code to GitHub.
[19:47] <stickyboy> All day.
[19:47] <stickyboy> Every day.
[19:47] <Kilos> good man
[19:48] <Kilos> one day you can learn bzr too
[19:48] <superfly> to the closed source service provider
[19:48] <stickyboy> superfly: True
[19:49] <stickyboy> But it's just a git remote, bro.
[19:49] <superfly> stickyboy: gitlab - it's open source and they do hosting too
[19:50] <stickyboy> superfly: I'm not freetarded.
[19:50] <Kilos> lol
[19:51] <stickyboy> GitHub is a great platform, I don't need it to be open source.
[19:51] <Kilos> i suppose any excuse is better than none
[19:51] <stickyboy> I love Stallman and GNU, but I'm not as extreme.
[19:51] <stickyboy> You have to be pragmatic. :P
[19:52] <stickyboy> GitHub has a solid business model. They are not evil...
[19:52] <stickyboy> It's not evil to make money, y'all.
[19:52] <superfly> stickyboy: totally agree, but I still prefer an open platform where there's an option
[19:52] <Kilos> haha
[19:52] <stickyboy> superfly: Cool
[19:52] <stickyboy> superfly: But GitLab < GitHub. :P
[19:52] <stickyboy> Just the truth...
[19:53] <superfly> nah, I've played around with GitLab about as much as I've played around with Github, and they seem pretty much on par
[19:53] <stickyboy> superfly: I almost deployed my own GitLab last year.
[19:53] <stickyboy> Decided not to... I don't need one more system to manage. :P
[19:53] <stickyboy> superfly: But I'm watching these guys: http://gogs.io/
[19:53] <stickyboy> Written in Go. Pretty radical.
[19:54] <stickyboy> Go is rad. Static binaries which don't even depend on libc.
[19:54] <superfly> I'm still trying to decide which is worse: Go or Ruby (well, more Ruby on Rails)
[19:55] <stickyboy> Ruby is definitely worse
[19:55] <stickyboy> Go is just a modern, type-safe language with performance on par with C.
[19:55] <superfly> maybe one day I'll look at Go.
[19:55] <stickyboy> So that is #winning. But also Rust, D, Julia, NIm...
[19:55] <superfly> don't care much for it now.
[19:55] <stickyboy> Lots of cool new things coming.
[19:56] <superfly> Julia is not new...
[19:56] <superfly> nor is Rust, or D
[19:56] <stickyboy> superfly: Sorry. "new".
[19:56] <stickyboy> You know what I mean. They're noy from 1970.
[19:56] <stickyboy> Splitting hairs, man ;)
[19:57] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:57] <Kilos> stickyboy  behave
[19:57] <Kilos> Maaz  watch them
[19:57] <Maaz> oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[19:58] <Kilos> Maaz  botsnack
[19:58] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[19:58] <stickyboy> Man, PT Sans is so nice.
[19:58] <superfly> stickyboy: dude, splitting hairs is my JOB
[19:58] <superfly> ;-)
[19:58] <superfly> ohey Xethron!
[19:59] <stickyboy> superfly: Also, I think I'm two glasses of wine ahead of you so you have to cut me a LITTLE slack ;
[19:59] <stickyboy> ;0
[20:00] <Kilos> lol
[20:00] <superfly> stickyboy: you'll always be a few glasses of wine ahead of me, I don't drink wine
[20:00] <stickyboy> superfly: Do you ever use reveal.js?
[20:00] <superfly> nope, but I've heard of it
[20:00] <stickyboy> Well my girlfriend is in Khartoum for a month and there's no wine, so I told her tonight I'll stop drinking in solidarity. :P
[20:00] <stickyboy> superfly: Kilos: https://alanorth.github.io/github-pages-2015/
[20:01] <stickyboy> That's a reveal.js presentation I gave about GitHub pages last month.
[20:01] <stickyboy> Kinda meta
[20:01] <superfly> ah yes, the presentation thingie
[20:02] <superfly> stickyboy: oh yes, githib != git
[20:02] <superfly> sooo many people equate the two
[20:02] <stickyboy> superfly: Yah, I was presenting to my team who are nontechnical. I wanted to hammer that point in.
[20:03] <superfly> stickyboy: even the technical people think that github == git
[20:03] <stickyboy> superfly: Sadly some do... haha
[20:09] <stickyboy> superfly: Do you know who Daniel J Bernstein is?
[20:11] <superfly> stickyboy: name rings a bell, isn't he the guy behind that DNS server?
[20:12] <superfly> (or is it a mail server?)
[20:12] <superfly> djbdns
[20:12] <superfly> something like that...
[20:13] <stickyboy> superfly: Yah, he write a lot of stuff.
[20:13] <superfly> super secure, IIRC
[20:13] <stickyboy> He wrote qmail too
[20:14] <stickyboy> And he has been doing awesome research on crypto for at least 15 years.
[20:14] <stickyboy> I dunno if you follow elliptic curve crypto stuff.
[20:18] <stickyboy> He wrote ChaCha20 / Poly1035, a cipher suite for TLS.
[20:18] <stickyboy> Like AES-GCM. Does key exchange, authentication, and data encryption.
[20:46] <superfly> stickyboy: nope, haven't been following him
[20:47] <stickyboy> superfly: That's ok
[20:47] <stickyboy> Anyways, he's really smart.
[20:47] <superfly> yeah, I remember that.
[20:47] <stickyboy> http://safecurves.cr.yp.to/
[20:47] <stickyboy> Pretty neat...
[20:47] <stickyboy> NIST curves are not safe
[20:47] <stickyboy> Elliptic curve discrete logarithm problem.
[20:47] <stickyboy> WTF?!
[20:47] <stickyboy> Math people... haha
[20:48] <superfly> I need to get to bed. night all
[20:49] <stickyboy> Night, man.