[05:03] <Etriaph> Hey guys, I'm creating the ballots for the election, does anyone know how I can email all of the members of Kubuntu?  Is there an email address that sends only to the members?
[07:07] <ovidiu-florin> Etriaph: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members
[07:08] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: Yup, got it done.
[07:08] <Etriaph> I think 3 of 44 did not have email addresses in their LP account anyway, just waiting on those.
[07:09] <ovidiu-florin> Etriaph: I don't think you can have an LP account without an email address
[07:10] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: You can choose not to make it public
[07:10] <Etriaph> 3 of the 44 do not list an email address.
[07:12] <ovidiu-florin> ah
[07:18] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: how do I move this to the kubuntu package? https://bugs.launchpad.net/calibre/+bug/1451043
[07:45] <Tm_T> hi, how we get the recent taskbar plasma crash fix to backports ASAP?
[10:31] <ovidiu-florin> Tm_T: it will get there
[10:31] <Tm_T> ovidiu-florin: it's kinda critical issue (:
[10:33] <ovidiu-florin> is there a bug report for it?
[10:34] <ovidiu-florin> on launchpad
[11:11] <mgraesslin> sitter: did you figure out whether there's a change in how you build packages regarding debug builds?
[11:12] <shadeslayer> sitter: my plasmashell doesn't work anymore :(
[11:13] <sitter> mgraesslin: no change. I seem to recall that kwin was using a qFatal which would bypass debuggyness anyway
[11:13] <sitter> so unless the qFatal is new the crash is new
[11:14] <mgraesslin> sitter: I investigated today and afaiu the problem it should have happened on 4.x as well
[11:56] <ovidiu-florin> mitya57: thank you
[11:58] <mitya57> YW :)
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:22] <sitter> mgraesslin: I compared the link flags of that file ... NDEBUG is no longer present. I am not sure that impacts abort on gcc though
[12:22] <sitter> also qt4 vs. qt5 it's possible that qFatal didn't use abort but assert previously
[12:24] <sitter> ah ah
[12:24] <sitter> stupid
[12:24] <sitter> kwin actually has #ifndef NDEBUG
[12:25] <sitter> I do wonder if it shouldn't perhaps use QT_NO_DEBUG as the more adjecent value
[12:26] <sitter> kde4libs patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/11095296/
[12:29] <sitter> now if anyone actually knew why debian injects its own thing rather than using relwithdebinfo that'd be good
[12:29] <sitter> shadeslayer: ^ do you happen to know?
[12:30] <sitter> ./datalib/kf5_flags:-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debian
[12:30] <shadeslayer> sitter: all documentation as to why we have weird flags passing around has been lost more or less
[12:30] <shadeslayer> I've tried to remove the ones that didn't make sense
[12:30] <shadeslayer> but it was all very wishy washy
[12:36] <sitter> many things are
[12:36] <sitter> good thing we have an abimanager cmake module though
[12:36] <sitter> that makes up for all the shit quality everywhere else
[12:37] <sgclark> wishy washy lol nice
[12:44] <sitter> launchpad sure has a hard time with me throwing work at it in threads :/ http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_daily_promotion_wily_stable/25/console
[13:34] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: that is already reported against the package
[13:34] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: yes, mitya57did it
[13:34] <ovidiu-florin> but I still don't know how to do it
[13:34] <sick_rimmit> Oh boy, I have a conundrum!!
[13:35] <sick_rimmit> Yesterday I install Apache2, MySQL, PHP5
[13:35] <sick_rimmit> Now I can not sudo !!
[13:35] <ovidiu-florin> are you in the sudoers?
[13:35] <sick_rimmit> sudo says I am not in the sudoers file
[13:36] <ovidiu-florin> are you in the sudo group?
[13:36] <sick_rimmit> but the machine only has one user account mine
[13:36] <yofel> are you in the sudo or admin group?
[13:36] <sick_rimmit> I did usermod -G www-data yesterday
[13:37] <sick_rimmit> Maybe that's it 
[13:37] <yofel> what does 'groups' say?
[13:37] <ovidiu-florin> www-data I bet
[13:37] <yofel> sick_rimmit: ah, "If the user is currently a member of a group which is not listed, the user will be removed from the group."
[13:37] <sick_rimmit> is tays
[13:37] <sick_rimmit> ricktimmis www-data
[13:37] <yofel> you forgot -a
[13:37] <ovidiu-florin> sick_rimmit: add yourself back to these groups: dm lp cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[13:38] <sick_rimmit> yofel: Ah, I wasn't expecting that behaviour
[13:38] <ovidiu-florin> adm not dm
[13:38] <ovidiu-florin> sorry
[13:38] <sick_rimmit> Brilliant I will try that
[13:39] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: beside the package is that arrow to expand the status details. There you needed to switch from "Project: calibre" to "Distribution: ubuntu; Package: calibre"
[13:39] <ovidiu-florin> aha
[13:40] <ovidiu-florin> I'll look next time the maintainer doesn't want to support the packaged version
[13:40] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[13:49] <sick_rimmit> Ah ha...
[13:50] <sick_rimmit> I think I have shot myself in the foot
[13:50] <sick_rimmit> usermod -G www-data ricktimmis
[13:50] <sick_rimmit> leaves me only in the www-data group, no way to sudo back to fix my groups
[13:50]  * sick_rimmit DOH!!!
[13:53] <yofel> if that's your machine, there's the recovery mode for that as you'll need a root shell
[13:53] <sitter> ScottK: kwin crashes are flooding upstream and annoying users. do we find it acceptable to rebuild kwin with -DNDEBUG to prevent this crash? the flag was used for 4.x and got lost in the kf5 porting
[13:54] <sitter> sick_rimmit: probably helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[13:54] <sick_rimmit> yofel: Is there a Grub key combo, to give me a boot menu, rather than the splash
[13:55] <sick_rimmit> sitter: Thank s
[13:56]  * sick_rimmit Busy RTFM'ing
[13:56] <yofel> sick_rimmit: hold (left?) shift at boot before the splash appears
[13:56] <sick_rimmit> yofel: Ah perfect! that's what I was looking for
[13:57]  * sick_rimmit going for a reboot to root shell, and learn the error of his ways
[16:10]  * sick_rimmit Appears with groups priviledges fixed, thanks to yofel ovidiu-florin and sitter
[16:52] <ovidiu-florin> ;)
[19:35] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: are you around?
[19:45] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin
[19:45] <Riddell> ¿que pasa?
[19:59] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344452
[19:59] <ovidiu-florin> it sais you packaged it
[19:59] <ovidiu-florin> I've tried it and it's broken
[19:59] <ovidiu-florin> is it the package or the software?
[20:01] <Riddell> "Failed to create qtquick2videosink. Make sure it is installed correctly" that must mean something
[20:02] <soee> when waylan is planned as default in kubuntu ?
[20:03] <soee> *wayland
[20:03] <yofel> once it's fully supported by kwin I guess
[20:06] <ovidiu-florin> martis said Plasma 5.3 IIRC
[20:06] <ovidiu-florin> martin*
[20:07] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: gstreamer1.0-videosink is this what I need maybe?
[20:08] <yofel> did someone try kwin_wayland 5.3 yet?
[20:09]  * yofel goes reading martins last blog post
[20:11] <soee> :)
[20:12] <soee> https://plus.google.com/+MartinGr%C3%A4%C3%9Flin/posts/KVjhZhr8Z2X
[20:13] <yofel> well, I use nvidia, so it seems I won't have to care about kwin_wayland for the forseable future
[20:13] <yofel> I should by a new notebook sometime..
[20:13] <yofel> *buy
[20:14] <sgclark> no good for nvidia users?
[20:14]  * sgclark reads
[20:15] <yofel> sgclark: 5th paragraph: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2015/04/turning-the-world-upside-down/
[22:25] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: dunno install it and see
[22:26] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I see source files that are part of qt-gstreamer but not files we package
[22:34] <yofel> Etriaph: even if people don't make their email address public on launchpad, you should still be able to send them a mail with the "contact this user" link on launchpad
[22:35] <Etriaph> yofel: Thanks yofel; there were only a small number, maybe 3, but I'll try to contact them.
[22:46] <Etriaph> ovidiu-florin: I don't have an address for you, if you're around.