[06:18] <dholbach> good morning
[06:19] <elfy> morning dholbach
[06:19] <dholbach> hey elfy
[07:09] <MooDoo> mornin
[08:29] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:31] <dpm> dholbach, balloons, would you be up for running the Q+A today? I'm heads down with the preparation of this Cordova workshop and I'd like to block the afternoon to finish that
[12:32] <dholbach> dpm, sure...
[12:33] <dpm> great, thanks
[13:21] <czajkowski> dpm: dholbach balloons popey http://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/  handy CFP page to bookmark
[13:27]  * balloons looks
[13:27] <balloons> dholbach, I'll setup the page now before I forget
[13:27] <balloons> czajkowski, nice calendar :-)
[13:34] <balloons> dholbach, done. https://plus.google.com/u/2/events/cpa9tmp0lmkbuodvad5tct3ic6k
[13:41] <dpm> awesome, thanks czajkowski
[14:11] <dholbach> thanks balloons!
[14:22] <dholbach> dpm, balloons, mhall119, popey, davidcalle: how do we do the meeting? in here? do we just paste status updates?
[14:31] <balloons> dholbach, say what you did/what you will do today. Also mention anything you are blocked on / need help with
[14:32] <dholbach> ok cool
[14:40] <mhall119> dholbach: balloons are we doing that now?
[14:40] <mhall119> ah, in 20 minutes, I see it on my calendar now
[14:40] <mhall119> dpm: I'm available now if you wanted to have our call afterall
[14:45] <dpm> mhall119, ok, entering the hangout
[15:00] <dholbach> davidcalle, dpm, balloons, mhall119, popey: yo yo yo :)
[15:00] <dpm> dholbach, mhall119, popey, davidcalle, balloons, standup time! :-)
[15:00] <davidcalle> o/
[15:00] <dholbach> yeeeehaw
[15:01] <dpm> ok, who wants to start? dholbach?
[15:01] <dholbach> sure
[15:01] <dholbach> DONE:
[15:01] <dholbach>  - help-app: fix for pad.lv/1433525 (make links open in separate window
[15:01] <dholbach>    on phone) (needs review)
[15:01] <dholbach>  - help-app: fix for part 2 of 1446493 (online version had assets loaded
[15:01] <dholbach>    via https)
[15:01] <dholbach> STARTED:
[15:01] <dholbach>  - help-app: tests for pad.lv/1433525
[15:01] <dpm> (sorry for voluntelling :)
[15:01] <dholbach>  - help-app: writing up proposal for inclusion by default
[15:01] <dholbach>  - (misc) discussions about Chinese translations of developer.u.c
[15:01] <dholbach>  - (misc) patch pilot day yesterday
[15:01] <dholbach> NEXT:
[15:01] <dholbach>  - help-app: pad.lv/1433210 (reenable .link-cta-ubuntu)
[15:01] <dholbach>  - help-app: discuss with Nick which tests we want
[15:01] <dholbach> BLOCKED:
[15:01] <dholbach>  - help-app: part 1 of 1446493 (set up site for content negotiation)
[15:01] <dholbach>    (with IS, RT#79340)
[15:01] <mhall119> oh geez, dholbach prepared for this
[15:02] <dpm> :)
[15:02] <davidcalle> Impressive
[15:02] <dholbach> mhall119, I maybe got a bit overexcited at the prospect of another meeting :-P
[15:02]  * dholbach hugs you all
[15:02] <mhall119> lol
[15:02] <dpm> :)
[15:02] <dpm> dholbach, good work. Anything you need help with?
[15:02] <dholbach> so yeah, the ticket with IS would be nice to get resolved and a review of the help-app MP would be nice too :)
[15:02] <dpm> Looking at the blockers, IS prodding?
[15:02] <dpm> ok
[15:03] <dholbach> <3
[15:03] <dholbach> that's it from me unless you have questions
[15:03] <mhall119> ok, I'll go next
[15:03] <dpm> cool
[15:03] <mhall119> I have deployment instructions for the devportal written up and testing them now
[15:04] <mhall119> then I'll hand them over to davidcalle to do an actual deployment with the CSS fixes that have MPs
[15:04] <balloons> nice dholbach ..
[15:04]  * balloons revises his list now :-)
[15:04] <mhall119> if/when popey is around we'll get started on creating a new website for the Ubuntu Update podcast
[15:05] <dpm> yeah, he's away today
[15:05] <mhall119> I will also be syncing jose and sjiv about their respective UbuCons
[15:06] <mhall119> I also need to put all of my UOS work items into the trello backlog
[15:06] <mhall119> and if there's time after all that, I have a number of blog post work items to get started on
[15:06]  * mhall119 fi
[15:06] <dpm> mhall119, thanks! a couple of questions:
[15:07] <dpm> - where are you planning to put the d.u.c deployment docs?
[15:07] <mhall119> in the branch, as DEPLOY.md
[15:07] <dpm> ok, sounds good
[15:08] <dpm> - there are a few UE podcast items in the sprint-2 backlog marked as Blocked - could you move them to sprint-3 if it makes sense?
[15:08] <mhall119> dpm: yes, we should be unblocked now after yesterday's call
[15:08] <dpm> great
[15:08] <dpm> any more questions for Mike?
[15:09] <dpm> if not, and in no particular order, balloons, do you want to go next?
[15:09] <balloons> sure thing
[15:09] <davidcalle> mhall119, about the tarball, will it be uploaded to lp?
[15:09] <balloons> doing:
[15:09] <balloons> working on functional testing guide for html5 apps
[15:09] <balloons> discussing options for making reviews better for developers
[15:09] <balloons> next:
[15:09] <balloons> helping dholbach with help app
[15:09] <balloons> helping land akiva's ap plugin
[15:09] <balloons> blocked:
[15:09] <balloons> nothing :-)
[15:09] <mhall119> davidcalle: yes, we'll need to inform IS of the change, but that should work fine
[15:09] <davidcalle> mhall119, cool, thanks :)
[15:10] <dpm> thanks balloons
[15:10] <davidcalle> balloons, very much looking forward to the html5 guide!
[15:10] <dpm> Indeed https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/quality/ is looking great
[15:11] <dholbach> nice URL too :)
[15:11] <dpm> :-)
[15:11] <dpm> davidcalle, do you want to go next?
[15:11] <davidcalle> Sure
[15:11] <davidcalle> * Updated snap format doc to be more inline with the branch content
[15:11] <davidcalle> * Synced with the API team on scopes templates incoming changes (which also means the Online Accounts scopes tutorial is on hold until they land). Putting a doc plan together for helping them simplifying the scope dev story
[15:12] <davidcalle> * Started scopes triaging
[15:12] <davidcalle> * More work on graphics and layout for the platform start page
[15:12] <davidcalle> That's it for me :)
[15:13] <mhall119> davidcalle: should the Scopes+OnlineAccounts card be moved to the blocked list then?
[15:13] <dpm> davidcalle, what is the ETA for the scopes template changes?
[15:13]  * davidcalle hasn't noticed the blocked list ^^
[15:14] <mhall119> davidcalle: on https://trello.com/b/JERbmM6O/community-team-sprint-3
[15:14] <davidcalle> dpm, marcus hasn't given one, he needs to talk with thostr first about our discussions form this morning, he was initially aiming for this week though
[15:15] <mhall119> davidcalle: is the template the only thing affected, or are there API changes too?
[15:15] <mhall119> and will we need to update existing scope docs when the template changes?
[15:15] <davidcalle> mhall119, template only, the work is happening on the qtcreator plugin
[15:16] <davidcalle> templates*
[15:16] <dpm> ok, any more questions for davidcalle?
[15:16] <mhall119> davidcalle: what's the state of scope localization?
[15:16] <mhall119> the tutorial for that I mean
[15:17] <mhall119> is that also blocked on the template change?
[15:17] <davidcalle> mhall119,  yes, especially since the changes involved a c++ namespace change for i18n
[15:17] <mhall119> ok, I'll move that to the blocked list too then
[15:18] <davidcalle> mhall119, only the scopes part of that card is blocked though :) The general i18n tuto is still coming (I'd say on friday)
[15:19] <mhall119> davidcalle: ok
[15:20]  * mhall119 has no more questions
[15:20] <dpm> ok, I'll go next then, thanks
[15:20] <dpm> ok, finally, on my side of things, I've been mostly working on the HTML5 workshop to present at the Phonegap Day next week. Essentially:
[15:20] <dpm> -  Working with dbarth's team to prepare the outline (porting an app and creating an Ubuntu Cordova app from scratch)
[15:20] <dpm> - Testing the tools and HTML5 documentation
[15:20] <dpm> Blocked:
[15:21] <dpm> - Cordova seems to be broken atm. Apparently it's a regression and the Camera tutorial does not work
[15:21] <dpm> dbarth's team are looking at it today, and I've got daily standups with them
[15:22] <balloons> dpm, btw, the draft version of https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/quality/?edit shows what I want to do with the functional part.
[15:22] <balloons> dpm, do you plan to add that tutorial to d.u.c?
[15:24] <dpm> balloons, I'm preparing slides, but it's a 30 min workshop, so they are a bit more generic than the other training slides we've got on the site (they are aimed at e.g. one morning workshops)
[15:24] <dpm> so while I'll put them online, I'm not yet sure where or if they could be useful
[15:24] <dpm> I could run a video workshop afterwards, perhaps
[15:24] <davidcalle> dpm, have you found a good match for the porting example app?
[15:25] <dpm> davidcalle, we've settled on the wikipedia app, zaspire is looking at doing the porting
[15:25] <davidcalle> dpm, nice
[15:25] <dpm> it seems porting cordova apps is more challenging than I expected, though
[15:26] <dpm> seems there is a lot of platform-specific plugins other than the core ones that make it a bit difficult in most cases
[15:26] <davidcalle> (especially if it's broken :) )
[15:26] <dpm> indeed :)
[15:26] <mhall119> dpm: yeah, the "write once, run everywhere" dream fails to deliver once agian
[15:27] <dpm> yeah, it seems to apply only if you use pure HTML5 and stick to W3C APIs
[15:27] <davidcalle> HTML5 is doing great with "write once, run everywhere on webkit"
[15:28] <dpm> :)
[15:28] <mhall119> yeah, the "on webkit" part makes that possible :)
[15:29] <dpm> ok, thanks everyone!
[15:30] <dholbach> thanks
[15:30] <mhall119> stand down now?
[15:30] <dpm> yes, please all sit down :)
[15:31] <davidcalle> OOT : ArsTechnica is covering the Erle copter :) http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/05/erle-copter-ubuntu-core-edition-the-first-drone-with-apps/
[15:31] <dholbach> balloons, how long are scrum standups normally?
[15:32] <balloons> dholbach, short..  just need to be long enough to convey info to everyone and address any issues someone may have. it's possible if someone is experiencing a blocking issue for it to take a little longer
[15:32] <balloons> but I suppose that's outside the standup anyway :-)
[15:33] <dholbach> ok, I was just wondering
[15:41] <balloons> mhall119, is doxygen an easy import for d.u.c?
[15:42] <balloons> if not, what would you prefer?
[15:42] <mhall119> balloons: it's not terrible, but it's not the easiest
[15:42] <mhall119> qdoc is the easiest so far
[15:43] <mhall119> with doxygen (and sphinx) you have to hard-code a mapping between elements and the section they should go into (GUI, Platform Services, Devices & Sensors, etc)
[15:44] <mhall119> but that's generally all that's needed
[15:45] <balloons> gotcha. I'm lining up some more import work for you then. This will be a mapping job sounds like as qdoc is not an option
[15:49] <mhall119> balloons: it's pretty straight forward, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~developer-ubuntu-com-dev/developer-ubuntu-com/django-cms/view/head:/api_docs/importers/scope_sections.py is an example from the scopes doxygen import
[15:49] <balloons> dholbach, daker sadly changing the URL to force HTML5 didn't fix it
[15:50] <mhall119> say, who's doing the Q&A today?
[15:51] <mhall119> dpm: dholbach balloons ^^
[15:52] <balloons> mhall119, volunteering? :-p me and dholbach are
[15:53] <dholbach> maybe it's what davmor2 said earlier: the video does not support that html5 playback?
[15:53] <dholbach> does anyone of you guys want to join balloons and myself in the Community Q&A in about 7 minutes on ubuntuonair.com? :)
[15:54] <balloons> dholbach, it does play locally for me in the html5 player
[15:54] <mhall119> balloons: I volunteered last week :-P
[17:04] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day - see you tomorrow!
[18:56] <mhall119> jose: ping me when you're around