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| mdeslaur | \o | 16:01 |
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| pitti | wo/ | 16:01 |
| mdeslaur | I'm still not sure there's anything worthwhile to discuss | 16:02 |
| pitti | the only thing that I see is the jerasure/gf-complete removal | 16:03 |
| infinity | Are we just going to ignore that Strea... Yeah, that. | 16:03 |
| mdeslaur | lawyers should talk to lawyers, IMHO | 16:04 |
| pitti | tbh I didn't look at the details yet, but for now I'm going to assume that the complaint is justified | 16:04 |
| pitti | jerasure's License.txt sounds BSDish | 16:04 |
| infinity | From what I gathered from the upstream page, it's not a copyright complaint, it's a patent complaint. | 16:05 |
| infinity | Despite the email we got claiming it's copyright. | 16:05 |
| infinity | So, it's all a bit "I'm not sure I want to touch it". | 16:05 |
| slangasek | so no one has forwarded it to Canonical legal yet? | 16:05 |
| infinity | Nein. | 16:06 |
| mdeslaur | I don't own a fax machine | 16:06 |
| slangasek | ok I'll take the action to do so | 16:06 |
| slangasek | (who's chairing this meeting?) | 16:06 |
| pitti | this woudl affect the python-pyeclib/jerasure/gf-complete set, nothing else AFAICS | 16:06 |
| pitti | oh, and liberasurecode | 16:06 |
| infinity | pitti: Err, and swift and ceph. | 16:06 |
| mdeslaur | they also claimed swift and ceph | 16:06 |
| mdeslaur | kees is supposed to be chairing, but he seems to be MIA again | 16:07 |
| infinity | I don't think kees loves us anymore. | 16:07 |
| slangasek | ok, who's the fallback chair? :) | 16:07 |
| infinity | Marc. | 16:07 |
| mdeslaur | pitti is fallback | 16:07 |
| pitti | hm, I didn't see ceph/swift as rdepends | 16:07 |
| infinity | pitti: Embedded copies. | 16:08 |
| pitti | eww | 16:08 |
| mdeslaur | ok, let me find the chair, one sec | 16:08 |
| slangasek | someone chair in and give me an action ;) | 16:08 |
| infinity | Heh. | 16:08 |
| mdeslaur | #startmeeting | 16:08 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue May 12 16:08:44 2015 UTC. The chair is mdeslaur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:08 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:08 |
| mdeslaur | [topic] Action review | 16:09 |
| mdeslaur | None | 16:09 |
| mdeslaur | [topic] Mailing list archive | 16:09 |
| mdeslaur | Licensing/patent complaint email | 16:09 |
| mdeslaur | #action slangasek to forward complaint to Canonical legal | 16:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: slangasek to forward complaint to Canonical legal | 16:09 |
| pitti | so, we obviously can't remove it from stables, but certainly the explicit packages from wily, to show some goodwill | 16:10 |
| pitti | as for ceph etc., that's a bit "eww" | 16:10 |
| slangasek | we shouldn't remove anything in the name of "goodwill" without a determination from our legal team | 16:10 |
| infinity | pitti: Yeah, but we ain't removing ceph and swift, so... | 16:10 |
| pitti | but "We believe that even a cursory review of the facts surrounding these libraries will make it clear to you that they do not +constitute "Free Software" by any reasonable definition." | 16:10 |
| pitti | this is very much wrong | 16:10 |
| pitti | the license is clearly DFSG | 16:11 |
| pitti | slangasek: right, I didn't mean that we should do it right now, just checking what we even can and can't do, and how much this affects | 16:11 |
| mdeslaur | ok, does anyone have anything further to discuss about that issue? | 16:12 |
| infinity | Note that ceph upstream still includes the code in question. | 16:13 |
| mdeslaur | was there anything else on the list? /me looks | 16:13 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: Nothing else. | 16:13 |
| mdeslaur | [topic] Community bugs | 16:13 |
| pitti | there was an MRE which slangasek ack'ed, nothing else that I can see | 16:13 |
| mdeslaur | no community bugs | 16:13 |
| mdeslaur | [topic] Next chair | 16:14 |
| slangasek | pitti: we do have the capability of removing packages from stable releases when it's legally necessary | 16:14 |
| slangasek | but it's not a button we push casually | 16:14 |
| pitti | *nod* | 16:14 |
| infinity | It's less of a button and more of a hatchet. | 16:14 |
| infinity | Especially in the case of a full takedown, where we have to alter history. | 16:14 |
| slangasek | infinity: it's a button connected to a hatchet, like a nuclear reactor SCRAM | 16:15 |
| infinity | (like we did for that copyright-violating font) | 16:15 |
| mdeslaur | pitti, you're up for next chair? | 16:15 |
| pitti | mdeslaur: yes | 16:15 |
| mdeslaur | ok, does anyone have anything else to discuss? | 16:16 |
| mdeslaur | #crickets | 16:16 |
| slangasek | nothing here | 16:16 |
| mdeslaur | #endmeeting | 16:16 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue May 12 16:16:35 2015 UTC. | 16:16 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2015/ubuntu-meeting-2.2015-05-12-16.08.moin.txt | 16:16 |
| mdeslaur | thanks everyone | 16:16 |
| slangasek | yep, thanks again! | 16:17 |
| pitti | thanks | 16:17 |
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