[16:01] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:01] <pitti> wo/
[16:02] <mdeslaur> I'm still not sure there's anything worthwhile to discuss
[16:03] <pitti> the only thing that I see is the jerasure/gf-complete removal
[16:03] <infinity> Are we just going to ignore that Strea... Yeah, that.
[16:04] <mdeslaur> lawyers should talk to lawyers, IMHO
[16:04] <pitti> tbh I didn't look at the details yet, but for now I'm going to assume that the complaint is justified
[16:04] <pitti> jerasure's License.txt sounds BSDish
[16:05] <infinity> From what I gathered from the upstream page, it's not a copyright complaint, it's a patent complaint.
[16:05] <infinity> Despite the email we got claiming it's copyright.
[16:05] <infinity> So, it's all a bit "I'm not sure I want to touch it".
[16:05] <slangasek> so no one has forwarded it to Canonical legal yet?
[16:06] <infinity> Nein.
[16:06] <mdeslaur> I don't own a fax machine
[16:06] <slangasek> ok I'll take the action to do so
[16:06] <slangasek> (who's chairing this meeting?)
[16:06] <pitti> this woudl affect the python-pyeclib/jerasure/gf-complete set, nothing else AFAICS
[16:06] <pitti> oh, and liberasurecode
[16:06] <infinity> pitti: Err, and swift and ceph.
[16:06] <mdeslaur> they also claimed swift and ceph
[16:07] <mdeslaur> kees is supposed to be chairing, but he seems to be MIA again
[16:07] <infinity> I don't think kees loves us anymore.
[16:07] <slangasek> ok, who's the fallback chair? :)
[16:07] <infinity> Marc.
[16:07] <mdeslaur> pitti is fallback
[16:07] <pitti> hm, I didn't see ceph/swift as rdepends
[16:08] <infinity> pitti: Embedded copies.
[16:08] <pitti> eww
[16:08] <mdeslaur> ok, let me find the chair, one sec
[16:08] <slangasek> someone chair in and give me an action ;)
[16:08] <infinity> Heh.
[16:08] <mdeslaur> #startmeeting
[16:08] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue May 12 16:08:44 2015 UTC.  The chair is mdeslaur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:09] <mdeslaur> [topic] Action review
[16:09] <mdeslaur> None
[16:09] <mdeslaur> [topic] Mailing list archive
[16:09] <mdeslaur> Licensing/patent complaint email
[16:09] <mdeslaur> #action slangasek to forward complaint to Canonical legal
[16:09] <meetingology> ACTION: slangasek to forward complaint to Canonical legal
[16:10] <pitti> so, we obviously can't remove it from stables, but certainly the explicit packages from wily, to show some goodwill
[16:10] <pitti> as for ceph etc., that's a bit "eww"
[16:10] <slangasek> we shouldn't remove anything in the name of "goodwill" without a determination from our legal team
[16:10] <infinity> pitti: Yeah, but we ain't removing ceph and swift, so...
[16:10] <pitti> but "We believe that even a cursory review of the facts surrounding these libraries will make it clear to you that they do not +constitute "Free Software" by any reasonable definition."
[16:10] <pitti> this is very much wrong
[16:11] <pitti> the license is clearly DFSG
[16:11] <pitti> slangasek: right, I didn't mean that we should do it right now, just checking what we even can and can't do, and how much this affects
[16:12] <mdeslaur> ok, does anyone have anything further to discuss about that issue?
[16:13] <infinity> Note that ceph upstream still includes the code in question.
[16:13] <mdeslaur> was there anything else on the list? /me looks
[16:13] <infinity> mdeslaur: Nothing else.
[16:13] <mdeslaur> [topic] Community bugs
[16:13] <pitti> there was an MRE which slangasek ack'ed, nothing else that I can see
[16:13] <mdeslaur> no community bugs
[16:14] <mdeslaur> [topic] Next chair
[16:14] <slangasek> pitti: we do have the capability of removing packages from stable releases when it's legally necessary
[16:14] <slangasek> but it's not a button we push casually
[16:14] <pitti> *nod*
[16:14] <infinity> It's less of a button and more of a hatchet.
[16:14] <infinity> Especially in the case of a full takedown, where we have to alter history.
[16:15] <slangasek> infinity: it's a button connected to a hatchet, like a nuclear reactor SCRAM
[16:15] <infinity> (like we did for that copyright-violating font)
[16:15] <mdeslaur> pitti, you're up for next chair?
[16:15] <pitti> mdeslaur: yes
[16:16] <mdeslaur> ok, does anyone have anything else to discuss?
[16:16] <mdeslaur> #crickets
[16:16] <slangasek> nothing here
[16:16] <mdeslaur> #endmeeting
[16:16] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue May 12 16:16:35 2015 UTC.
[16:16] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2015/ubuntu-meeting-2.2015-05-12-16.08.moin.txt
[16:16] <mdeslaur> thanks everyone
[16:17] <slangasek> yep, thanks again!
[16:17] <pitti> thanks