=== markthomas is now known as markthomas|away === markthomas|away is now known as markthomas [16:01] \o [16:01] wo/ [16:02] I'm still not sure there's anything worthwhile to discuss [16:03] the only thing that I see is the jerasure/gf-complete removal [16:03] Are we just going to ignore that Strea... Yeah, that. [16:04] lawyers should talk to lawyers, IMHO [16:04] tbh I didn't look at the details yet, but for now I'm going to assume that the complaint is justified [16:04] jerasure's License.txt sounds BSDish [16:05] From what I gathered from the upstream page, it's not a copyright complaint, it's a patent complaint. [16:05] Despite the email we got claiming it's copyright. [16:05] So, it's all a bit "I'm not sure I want to touch it". [16:05] so no one has forwarded it to Canonical legal yet? [16:06] Nein. [16:06] I don't own a fax machine [16:06] ok I'll take the action to do so [16:06] (who's chairing this meeting?) [16:06] this woudl affect the python-pyeclib/jerasure/gf-complete set, nothing else AFAICS [16:06] oh, and liberasurecode [16:06] pitti: Err, and swift and ceph. [16:06] they also claimed swift and ceph [16:07] kees is supposed to be chairing, but he seems to be MIA again [16:07] I don't think kees loves us anymore. [16:07] ok, who's the fallback chair? :) [16:07] Marc. [16:07] pitti is fallback [16:07] hm, I didn't see ceph/swift as rdepends [16:08] pitti: Embedded copies. [16:08] eww [16:08] ok, let me find the chair, one sec [16:08] someone chair in and give me an action ;) [16:08] Heh. [16:08] #startmeeting [16:08] Meeting started Tue May 12 16:08:44 2015 UTC. The chair is mdeslaur. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:08] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:09] [topic] Action review [16:09] None [16:09] [topic] Mailing list archive [16:09] Licensing/patent complaint email [16:09] #action slangasek to forward complaint to Canonical legal [16:09] ACTION: slangasek to forward complaint to Canonical legal [16:10] so, we obviously can't remove it from stables, but certainly the explicit packages from wily, to show some goodwill [16:10] as for ceph etc., that's a bit "eww" [16:10] we shouldn't remove anything in the name of "goodwill" without a determination from our legal team [16:10] pitti: Yeah, but we ain't removing ceph and swift, so... [16:10] but "We believe that even a cursory review of the facts surrounding these libraries will make it clear to you that they do not +constitute "Free Software" by any reasonable definition." [16:10] this is very much wrong [16:11] the license is clearly DFSG [16:11] slangasek: right, I didn't mean that we should do it right now, just checking what we even can and can't do, and how much this affects [16:12] ok, does anyone have anything further to discuss about that issue? [16:13] Note that ceph upstream still includes the code in question. [16:13] was there anything else on the list? /me looks [16:13] mdeslaur: Nothing else. [16:13] [topic] Community bugs [16:13] there was an MRE which slangasek ack'ed, nothing else that I can see [16:13] no community bugs [16:14] [topic] Next chair [16:14] pitti: we do have the capability of removing packages from stable releases when it's legally necessary [16:14] but it's not a button we push casually [16:14] *nod* [16:14] It's less of a button and more of a hatchet. [16:14] Especially in the case of a full takedown, where we have to alter history. [16:15] infinity: it's a button connected to a hatchet, like a nuclear reactor SCRAM [16:15] (like we did for that copyright-violating font) [16:15] pitti, you're up for next chair? [16:15] mdeslaur: yes [16:16] ok, does anyone have anything else to discuss? [16:16] #crickets [16:16] nothing here [16:16] #endmeeting [16:16] Meeting ended Tue May 12 16:16:35 2015 UTC. [16:16] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2015/ubuntu-meeting-2.2015-05-12-16.08.moin.txt [16:16] thanks everyone [16:17] yep, thanks again! [16:17] thanks === kees_ is now known as kees