[15:29] <dholbach> balloons, I guess we need to start the promotion in a bit - shall I do FB and Twitter?
[15:29] <balloons> dholbach, yes please promote away
[15:29] <dholbach> I'll start promoting in 10m - I thin that should be fine :)
[15:42] <dholbach> ok, propaganda machinery started :)
[15:47] <Butterfingers> QUESTION: I've seen an impressive demo of.
[15:49] <Butterfingers> QUESTION: I've seen an impressive demo of LibreOffice running on Ubuntu Touch. Will that mean that many iother apps should work or is it a case that each app has to be ported?
[15:55] <dholbach> hello everyone
[15:56] <dholbach> starting off in about 5 mins
[15:58] <Butterfingers> Hi dholbach
[15:59] <dholbach> hey Butterfingers
[16:03] <dholbach> having some small difficulties - hang in there
[16:03] <balloons> hey everyone.. starting in a moment :)
[16:07] <Butterfingers> I'm on BQ phone and all I see is 'please stand by. Can someone tell me when it has started so I know if I have a problem?
[16:08] <balloons> sure Butterfingers .. sorry, hangouts are not happy at the moment and it doesn't want to let us broadcast
[16:08] <balloons> bear with us
[16:08] <Butterfingers> no problem balloons
[16:09] <dholbach> but if you want, start asking questions already
[16:09] <dholbach> we'll queue them up and get to them first thing
[16:10] <dholbach> I'm afraif you will have to update ubuntuonair.com
[16:10] <dholbach> or watch at http://www.youtube.com/embed/k0BBBMU6D9c
[16:10] <aquarius> is there supposed to be a community Q&A?
[16:10] <balloons> yes, please feel free to ask questions
[16:10] <dholbach> sorry aout that
[16:11] <balloons> aquarius, yes some tech issues but we'll be live in a moment
[16:11] <mhall119> balloons: we had this happen a few times last week, you might need to delete this hangout and create a new one
[16:11] <balloons> please reload the page if you could
[16:11] <aquarius> no worries; I thought maybe I'd missed it, especially since the G+ post said 1500UTC which was an hour ago :)
[16:12] <mhall119> balloons: you're good now, I see you
[16:12] <aquarius> and ubuntuonair says 1700UTC, which is an hour from now ;)
[16:12] <aquarius> woo balloons!
[16:12] <Butterfingers> I've reloades but still don't see anything...
[16:12] <Butterfingers> oh, now I do!
[16:12] <mhall119> Butterfingers: crtl-reload?
[16:12] <mhall119> \o/
[16:12] <Butterfingers> :)
[16:14] <dholbach> keep your questions coming, prefix them with QUESTION: and we'll answer them in no time
[16:15] <balloons> glad it's working finally :)
[16:15] <mhall119> dholbach: Rodrigo
[16:16] <mhall119> was the guy from Bq
[16:16] <aquarius> he's cool, the Bq bloke.
[16:17] <dragon77> QUESTION:will snappy support dnymic linking?i.e two applications share a single library.I heard you are working on some kind of memory deduplication that will try to emulate this behaviour.
[16:17] <kaka2kaka> i was not getting network on linux 14.04
[16:18] <dragon77> *dynamic linking
[16:20] <balloons> keep your questions coming, prefix them with QUESTION: and we'll get them answered :-)
[16:21] <balloons> Butterfingers, I didn't miss yours, I'll take it next :-)
[16:22] <mhall119> QUESTION: have either of you played with Snappy and/or Ubuntu Core yet? If so, what did you do?
[16:24] <kaka2kaka> no one answer my question too bab iam leaving
[16:26] <aquarius> QUESTION: I know balloons did some stuff demoing fat packages a while back; has there been any movement on that so we don't have to glue them together by hand? (I may have missed it at UOS.)
[16:27] <davmor2> aquarius: pretty sure there was a session at uos
[16:27] <dragon77> QUESTION:Does Mark Shuttleworth ever randomly come into your one of Canonical's offices,look over someone's shoulder when he is working and say something like:This is cool!
[16:27] <aquarius> happy to watch it if so; that's why I asked the question :)
[16:28] <mhall119> dragon77: most of us don't work at an office
[16:28] <mhall119> if Mark randomly showed up at my house, that's would get awkward
[16:28] <dragon77> oh well...just wanted to get a feel of your corporate culture.
[16:29] <mhall119> dragon77: it's about like that, only over the internet
[16:29] <dragon77> I knew a lot of you worked over the net.But I did not know most of you do.
[16:30] <dragon77> sorry if the question was inapropriate
[16:30] <mhall119> dragon77: the question was fine, no worries
[16:31] <mhall119> Mark gets interested in the details of things quite often, so if we were all in an office I would expect that to happen pretty often
[16:34] <dragon77> cool
[16:34] <balloons> here's the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1398104
[16:37] <Levan> What is your stance on pie ?
[16:38] <Levan> I am asking the community not the ubuntu staff
[16:39] <mhall119> most canonical staff are community members too
[16:39] <balloons> Levan, pie?
[16:39] <aquarius> balloons, I do know the SDK folks, but I'm busy burning all my credit with them on getting them to build the Ubuntu Component Store, so they're sick of hearing from me ;)
[16:39] <mhall119> I am +1 for pie
[16:39] <aquarius> I like pie
[16:39] <dragon77> which pie?
[16:39] <Levan> balloons yes pie
[16:39] <mhall119> pecan
[16:39] <balloons> aquarius, ahh right! that's a cool idea and I was glad to see the session again at UOS
[16:39] <dragon77> pie is good
[16:39] <Levan> aquarius what flavor
[16:40] <balloons> apple pear pie is my personal favorite
[16:40] <aquarius> lemon meringue. Or steak and kidney.
[16:40] <Levan> So we all agree Pie is good ??
[16:40] <dragon77> pie is fine
[16:40] <aquarius> am I being set up for a joke punchline here?
[16:40] <mhall119> I do hope so
[16:41] <balloons> any other questions?
[16:41] <Levan> aquarius you ruined everything we are not friends anymore :(
[16:41] <mhall119> lol
[16:41] <aquarius> skills.
[16:42] <Levan> :D
[16:43] <Butterfingers> QUESTION: What has customer deesback been like for thw phone? Any areas that emerged that need attention? for mepersonally, the notificarion area is a little xumbersome
[16:43] <Butterfingers> But overall I love the phone and my iPhone 5 is for sale currently :)
[16:45] <Levan> QUESTION - What is the best operating system of course second to Windows 98 [Jono bacon agrees with this]
[16:45] <dragon77> QUESTION:How long do you plan to continue to support nexus devices?
[16:46] <mhall119> Levan: everything Jono says since he left us is wrong :)
[16:47] <aquarius> QUESTION: about QA. do you have a zillion failing acceptance tests? There should be, surely, a whole bunch of tests checking things like pasting into the web browser, which *doesn't* work at the moment but *should*... who establishes when these user features are actually fixed to be working? (LP bugs check the tech stuff, but not the actual user experience.)
[16:47] <Levan> mhall119 said this when he was still part of canonical staff
[16:47] <mhall119> aquarius: pasting into the browser's URL input, or pasting into a webpage form?
[16:47] <mhall119> Levan: well, 80% of what he said while he was here was wrong :)
[16:48] <Butterfingers> People only love Win 98 because the were in college listening to Win Amp while writing prank apps oj their lexturers and classmates :) Thankfully it'll be Ubuntu in a lot of colleges/universities these days.
[16:49] <aquarius> mhall119, into a webpage form. But that's just an example -- think of all the things that are UX issues on the phone. It's hard to know when they're fixed -- coding teams say "woo we fixed this LP bug", but that doesn't actually confirm that the UX is better. I wonder if there should be lots of tests for that stuff, which correctly fail right now?
[16:49] <The_Entire_Inter> QUESTION. I may have missed this but has there been any word on how scopes will be done on the snappy desktop?
[16:50] <Levan> mhall119 so you want to tell me that windows 98 is not the best os EVER blashphemous
[16:50] <aquarius> mhall119, but that's why I'm asking balloons about it, because he's a QA expert and I'm not :P
[16:51] <aquarius> ooh, selenium can drive webbrowser-app? didn't realise anyone had done a bridge for that.
[16:51] <aquarius> might take a look at that then :)
[16:51] <balloons> aquarius, indeed. fire up the sdk and start a new html5 app. you'll see the goodies in the template
[16:52] <aquarius> sweet.
[16:52] <aquarius> although I hate selenium with the heat of a thousand suns. But lots of people do not ;)
[16:53] <balloons> aquarius, :p
[16:53] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: Will ubuntu touch keep a big focus on lower end hardware and will it be much better for low end phones then current versions of android?
[16:54] <mhall119> TheEntireInterne: scopes will be snappy packaged
[16:54] <Levan> QUESTION - Can we/I hope that people will get office suite on ubuntu touch soon ??
[16:54] <asfasfas> QUESTION: We see that in the store appeared scopes in Chinese (ex. https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.canonical.scopes.baidupoi ). Is this shows that release of MX4 is reallllyyyy near?
[16:55] <mhall119> Levan: you mean a mobile-formfactor version of LibreOffice?
[16:55] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION: When will I beable to install snappy ubuntu desktop and easily install apps such as Firefox and LibreOffice
[16:55] <Levan> mhall119 well I am talking about mobile version of some office suite
[16:56] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl: 15.10 release is our target for that to all work
[16:56] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mhall119, that seems really soon
[16:56] <mhall119> Levan: so popey and I spoke with one of of the LibreOffice devs, who happens to also work for Canonical, and there's a new "core" package of LibreOffice that could be used to build an Ubuntu Touch version
[16:57] <mhall119> ChloeWolfieGirl: it certianly won't be perfect by then, but willcooke has a list of target apps to have packaged and working by then
[16:57] <ChloeWolfieGirl> mhall119, ah ok :P
[16:57] <TheEntireInterne> QUESTION. Is the owncloud integration on the BQ phone any good? i.e for contacts, photos and calendar.
[16:57] <Levan> mhall119 that will be so awesome if we will get libreoffice on our phones :)
[16:58] <mhall119> Levan: it would likely be read-only, at least to start with
[16:58] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Levan, Super awesome!
[16:58] <mhall119> this is the library that powers their new Android version, which isn't quite as fully featured as the desktop version
[16:58] <Levan> mhall119 well at least that will be a start I can't have a phone that can't handle office files :(
[17:00] <Levan> eh! повторение мать учения and  გამეორება ცოდნის დედაა
[17:01] <ChloeWolfieGirl> QUESTION Are there more plans for syncing/intergreation, like from ubuntuone or other services?
[17:02] <Levan> QUESTION  Why did you jump over my beautifully formulated os question ? because you agree with my statement about windows 98 and are being opressed by Mark not to talk about Windows dominance ?
[17:02] <Levan> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:02] <Levan> WINDOWS 98 FTW
[17:02] <Levan> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:02] <Levan> I will get band for this right ? :D
[17:03] <ChloeWolfieGirl> I really can't wait to see a sweet mobile version of LibreOffice on the OnePlus One running ubuntu touch xD
[17:03] <aquarius> cheers, chaps!
[17:04] <Butterfingers> THANK YOU
[17:04] <dholbach> thanks guys! :-)
[17:04] <balloons> thanks everyone
[17:04] <ChloeWolfieGirl> Thanksies x3
[17:04] <balloons> ChloeWolfieGirl, of course! anything you wish to see specifically?>
[17:05] <ChloeWolfieGirl> balloons, if you mean syncing, yeah theres like contacts apps for ubuntu touch and ubuntu desktop but you can't seem to sync them via ubuntu one which I'd rather sync them via then google xD
[17:06] <balloons> ChloeWolfieGirl, ahh right. Yes syncing is something we'll leave to others, as ubuntu one itself doesn't do syncing anymore. It's merely an sso provider
[17:06] <balloons> so if there was another sync service you liked that wasn't supported . . .
[17:06] <balloons> someone mentioned owncloud, which is a great idea
[17:07] <ChloeWolfieGirl> balloons, I thought syncing was something ubuntu one was going to do more but it wont do file syncing?
[17:08] <balloons> ChloeWolfieGirl, ubuntu one syncing was shut down; 2 years ago or more now?
[17:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> balloons, I use riseup email which does contacts, but I can't think of anything popular other then google and owncloud that does contact syncing.
[17:08] <ChloeWolfieGirl> balloons, Yeah but I thought that was only for file syncing, I didn't think that included contacts etc
[17:11] <balloons> ahh, sadly yes
[17:14] <ChloeWolfieGirl> balloons, Aww, fair enough, I hope in the future contact syncing comes back via UbuntuOne, or hopefully firefox does a contact syncing thing in the near future that Canonical could use.
[17:16] <balloons> ChloeWolfieGirl, yep. if there's a provider you like who does it, I'm sure support could be added. Especially if it was more open than the alternatives. We like open services :-)
[17:16] <balloons> "We" as in the open source community in general.. There ideals likely align with yours
[17:18] <ChloeWolfieGirl> balloons, yeah xD I hope that a good one that has many users comes soon, I know vivaldi has a contacts thing in the browser and I know firefox have a phone so firefox might end up wanting to add contacts to there browser and if they do that then it'd be open and I'd love to use that over google.
[17:25] <aikidouke> QUESTION: How do packages like non-free drivers get handled in a Snappy world? Is it any different?
[17:25] <aikidouke> (if you want to try to say the nick, its EYE-KEY-Dough-OOKAY)
[23:15] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> say xD
[23:15] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> xD
[23:15] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> lol
[23:15] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> :P
[23:16] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> just from Minecraft! :P
[23:16] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> yo!?!?!
[23:17] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> You guys on
[23:17] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> line
[23:17] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> xD
[23:18] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> Hello?
[23:18] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[23:18] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> oops
[23:18] <Ubuntu_14_04_Min> wrong terminal XD