[03:17] <SturmFlut> Hello, world
[03:44] <jcbjoe> o_O
[06:18] <dholbach> good morning
[06:52] <PhilippeP> Morning
[08:28] <mpt> Can someone remind me what package the first-run setup belongs to? <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers> says “System Settings (includes setup wizard, before 15.04)”, but doesn’t say what includes it since 15.04
[08:29] <davmor2> mpt: unity 8 in vivid
[08:29] <davmor2> mpt: before that system settings
[08:41] <mbgg> hi, I'm trying to build ubuntu-touch for the bq device, but the lunch option does not allow me to select something like aosp_krillin-userdebug.
[08:42] <mbgg> does anyone know how I can compile for this device from scratch?
[08:42] <davmor2> mbgg: why are you building it for the bq device?
[08:43] <mpt> Is “Click Scope” the Ubuntu Store scope, or a subset of it, or something else?
[08:43] <mpt> thanks davmor2
[08:44] <davmor2> mpt: it is the apps scope + store iirc you might want to double check on that
[08:46] <davmor2> mpt: dobey, beuno or Chipaca can possibly confirm for you
[08:46] <mpt> Ok, one final question for now: What package is the Video scope?
[08:47] <mpt> It isn’t listed on the Avengers page and I can’t find it in a Launchpad package search
[08:47] <Chipaca> mpt: unity-scope-video-remote?
[08:47] <mpt> except for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-china-video-scope
[08:48] <mpt> Oh, “-remote”
[08:48] <mpt> thanks Chipaca
[08:48] <Chipaca> mpt: wrt click scope, there's unity-scope-click
[08:48] <Chipaca> mpt: i'm just doing 'apt cache search'; i know nothing :)
[08:48] <mpt> Chipaca, yes, that’s listed on the Avengers page as the “Click Scope”, but there’s no such thing afaik
[08:49] <mpt> So I was trying to work out exactly what it covered
[08:49] <Chipaca> mpt: i mean, it's an actual package
[08:49] <Chipaca> Description-en: Click Packages Scope for Unity
[08:49] <Chipaca>  The click packages scope for Unity provides the scope list installed
[08:49] <Chipaca>  applications, as well as applications available for purchase or installation,
[08:49] <Chipaca>  in the Unity dash.
[08:49] <Chipaca>  .
[08:49] <Chipaca>  This package provides the click scope.
[08:49] <mpt> Sure, but there is no scope called “Click” anywhere (as well there shouldn’t be)
[08:50] <davmor2> mpt: apps scope and store then I think
[08:50] <Chipaca> mpt: you mean, in the ui?
[08:50] <davmor2> mpt: and pay-ui is how you purchase an app
[08:51] <Chipaca> mpt: in the UI it's "Applications", if that's what you're asking
[08:53] <mpt> and “Ubuntu Store”
[08:55] <Chipaca> yes
[08:55] <mbgg> davmor2: for learning and understanding the source code
[08:56] <davmor2> mbgg: but that just creates a new binary so there is no source.
[08:58] <davmor2> mbgg: if you want to look at the source for ubuntu phone then rebuilding the android binary and ubuntu kernel on the device in a binary format wan't help you :)
[08:58] <davmor2> ogra_: ^ is this something you can point mbgg too, or am I not understanding how the lunch/brunch system works?
[09:01] <mpt> davmor2, Chipaca: Index updated. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers?action=diff&rev2=68&rev1=67>
[09:07] <davmor2> mpt: looks good I won't mention the big list of scopes if you slide up manage I don't want to see you cry ;)
[09:09] <mpt> vesar, here are a couple of examples of dialogs that have contents long enough that they’ll need scrolling/navigation: <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#apn-mobile> <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#wi-fi-authentication-variations>
[09:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy International Nurses Day! 😃
[09:13] <mpt> davmor2, I’ll leave those for you to add
[09:27] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: Ping
[09:27] <mzanetti> sturmflut2, pong
[09:28] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: I think I found the problem with my stupid tablet. Intel screwed up the internal eMMC flash controller of their BayTrail platform, the controller sometimes just stops working if the CPU goes to sleep m(
[09:29] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: For some reason they just fixed it in the ChromeOS kernels and not upstream
[09:29] <mzanetti> right... why would they
[09:36] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: ...and great, the patch doesn't seem to work on more recent kernels.
[09:36] <sturmflut2> why would it
[09:48] <dholbach> balloons, elopio: do you know what's required for the autolander to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/1446493-pt2/+merge/258848?
[09:51] <dodeluser> I get my bq ubuntu phone today.  is there any information about a release date of whatsapp for ubuntu phone ? thanks
[09:52] <mzanetti> dodeluser, no, I don't think whatsapp will show up soon :/
[09:52] <dholbach> balloons, elopio: ignore me
[09:52] <dodeluser> ok. thanks. and a 2nd question... will it be "official" to obtain su rights?
[09:52] <ogra_> mbgg, i dont think the bq tree uses something like lunch or brunch, IIRC there is a script called MkMTK or MakeMTK ...
[09:53] <ogra_> dodeluser, lol
[09:53] <ogra_> dodeluser, the phone is behaving like any other ubuntu .... just use sudo ;)
[09:53] <dodeluser> sorry, I use ubuntu for a while but never used ubuntu touch
[09:53] <dodeluser> is this right? just using sudo?
[09:53] <ogra_> (it is not in all regards like any other, but in that for sure ;) )
[09:54] <dodeluser> this is so cool and the reason why I ordered it :-)
[09:54] <dodeluser> thanks.. cant wait to unpack it today
[09:54] <mzanetti> have fun :)
[09:54] <dodeluser> sure I will :-)
[09:56] <mbgg> ogra_, MkMTK is needed to create the kernel. How can I create the whole eco-system for the phone? (boot.img, recovery.img etc).
[09:58] <ogra_> mbgg, hmm, not sure... john-mcaleely can you help ?
[10:00] <john-mcaleely> well, boot.img is from the script in the readme
[10:00] <john-mcaleely> not sure about the rest
[10:01] <john-mcaleely> https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5/blob/aquaris-E4.5-ubuntu-rtm/README.md
[10:49] <bqphone> i am trying to watch a live stream on youtube, but i got this message:" Java script alert, Failed to load the video stream. please reload
[10:49] <bqphone> any ideas?
[10:51] <davmor2> bqphone: might be the same issue as you see in chromium live streams I think still depend on flash, for example the hangouts used for UOS only worked after in web browser and chromium, but were fine in firefox with flash enabled
[10:52] <bqphone> and the solution is?
[10:55] <davmor2> bqphone: there isn't one as far as I know, you need flash
[10:55] <bqphone> can i install flash on bq phone?
[10:55] <davmor2> bqphone: you can watch it later on the phone if it is being recorded
[11:00] <mcphail> "apt-cache policy bluez" on krillin vivid shows version "4.101-0ubuntu24", Is vivid-proposed running 5.x?
[11:00] <davmor2> mcphail: no will likely land in wily
[11:00] <mcphail> davmor2: thanks. Shame - thought it had been planned for vivd
[11:01]  * mcphail still hopes to connecthis phone to his car
[11:01] <davmor2> mcphail: requires a complete rewrite of our stuff to work nicely with bluez 5.x so didn't have time in vivid
[11:02] <mcphail> davmor2: I find the bluez stuff baffling and poorly documented. You have my respect :)
[11:03] <davmor2> bqphone: not currently and there is no plugin mechanism for the browser.
[11:03] <davmor2> mcphail: I don't I only break it, there is cyphermox and rsalveti worthy of praise currently iirc
[11:04] <mcphail> ha!
[11:07] <beuno> mpt, click scope is the ubuntu store scope
[11:09] <mpt> beuno, oh, I didn’t realize that Ubuntu Store was a scope separate from Apps. I can get to it without having it turned on as a scope.
[11:09] <mpt> (“turned on” = starred)
[11:10] <mcphail> mpt: starring them only gives you the option to swipe to them. You can still get to them via links from other scopes
[11:13] <jgdx> mpt, is your client making apostrophes and quotation marks? Or is that you, manually?
[11:15] <davmor2> mpt: you can access all the scopes via manage, and the store can be got to via the store button on the apps scope
[11:16] <mpt> jgdx, manually
[11:16] <mpt> davmor2, I know, but that’s from the bottom edge which I don’t remember to use :-)
[11:16] <mpt> So I only saw it in the list of scopes just now
[11:16] <davmor2> mpt: the store button on the apps scope isn't :P
[11:17] <mpt> davmor2, that’s precisely why I thought it wasn’t a scope of its own
[11:47] <robin-hero> sil2100: I know I'm always asking this from you, but when we expect the OTA-3.5 update? Because I wrote a news in my loco's site about this, but I don't available at late afternoon and can't make it published.
[11:48] <sil2100> robin-hero: hey! Still no news from BQ sadly, we usually get feedback after one day but this time it seems to be taking longer...
[11:49] <sil2100> And that's the only thing we're waiting for now
[11:50] <robin-hero> sil2100: Thanks for your reply, I hope finish it soon :)
[11:50] <robin-hero> *bq
[11:58] <sturmflut2> Well, it's 30 degrees in Madrid... ;)
[12:02] <vitimiti> It's more than 30 in Fuengirola
[12:03] <vitimiti> Or at least it feels like so
[12:05] <sturmflut2> Crazy weather, it's alreayd 28 degrees here in germany too. Despite the cloudy sky.
[12:09] <jgdx> hm, I just made a fire..
[12:26] <pitti> kgunn: landing spreadsheet line 6 / silo 000 have existed for three months now; is this still going anywhere, or should this be cancelled?
[12:27] <pitti> kgunn: I'm asking because I'd like to land a simple ubuntu-touch-session fix
[12:30] <pitti> sil2100: FYI, I added a landing request for https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/ubuntu-touch-session/systemd/+merge/258240, but it's blocked by silo 000
[12:38] <sil2100> pitti: why is it blocked by 000?
[12:38] <pitti> sil2100: because that silo also contains ubuntu-touch-session
[12:38] <sil2100> Does it need 000 to land first?
[12:39] <pitti> sil2100: usually when this happens, the landing process throws an error about trying to land two branches of the same package in parallel?
[12:39] <pitti> sil2100: hence my question to kgunn above
[12:39] <sil2100> Don't worry, I'll assign a silo in a moment, that one is still not scheduled for landing, so we can have yours landing first
[12:39] <pitti> sil2100: silo 000 looks abandoned to me (hasn't moved in 3 months), hence my question whether it should/can be properly be cleaned up
[12:39] <pitti> sil2100: oh, I thought all silos would implicitly be a landing request?
[12:40] <sil2100> pitti: well, that was the principle in the past, now people are also using silos for testing purposes with plans of landing it in the future ;)
[12:40] <pitti> sil2100: ah, ok; I keep being out of date, sorry :)
[12:41] <sil2100> No worries, we'd prefer people not to do that too, but I can understand that sometimes it's just good to use silo as a convienence tool
[12:42] <pitti> sil2100: so I'll upload the two lxc-android-config patches to the same silo while I'm at it
[12:42] <sil2100> pitti: oh, ok, let's add lxc-android-config to the silo config then
[12:44] <pitti> sil2100: cheers; I prepare the lxc-a-c package now (based on the current one in the PPA)
[12:49] <kgunn> pitti: yeah, sorry silo 0 is special...it was a massive mwc demo, we are slowly but surely landing all the bits and pieces
[12:49] <kgunn> (it's smaller than the original by 1/2 :)
[12:49] <kgunn> but with freezing and RC's etc....it's slow going
[12:49] <pitti> kgunn: ack, thanks for clarifying; sil2100 enlightened me that this isn't blocking anything, so sorry for the noise
[12:49] <kgunn> also, sales is actively using ....which is a nice problem
[12:49] <kgunn> pitti: no worries
[12:51] <pitti> sil2100: uploaded to https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-014/+packages
[13:24] <seb128> Elleo, bfiller, hey, do you plan to land an updated ubuntu-keyboard in Ubuntu/wily? the current version is outdated/doesn't include the plugin-paths changes which means ubuntu-system-settings trunk is not working on wily
[13:24] <seb128> kenvandine, Laney, ^ fyi
[13:25] <seb128> Elleo, bfiller, bug #1454230 is the corresponding sigabrt
[13:28] <kenvandine> it should be synced from the overlay ppa same as settings
[13:30] <Elleo> seb128, kenvandine: yeah, I'd have thought it should be synced if system settings is being synced
[13:30] <kenvandine> yeah, that change in settings never went to vivid
[13:30] <kenvandine> they landed together
[13:31] <kenvandine> Elleo, we should have bumped the depends though
[13:31] <Elleo> kenvandine: yeah, good point
[13:31] <kenvandine> sorry i didn't catch that :/
[13:33] <seb128> Elleo, kenvandine, can we get the current ubuntu-keyboard in wily?
[13:34] <Elleo> bfiller: ^?
[13:34] <kenvandine> pmcgowan, do you know if there's a plan to sync all of the overlay ppa to wily?
[13:35] <pmcgowan> kenvandine, no but we need one
[13:36] <kenvandine> seb128, Elleo: i'll create a sync for that
[13:37] <Elleo> kenvandine: okay, thanks
[13:38] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[13:38] <kenvandine> hmm... i wonder how to specify the overlay ppa in the spreadsheet
[13:38] <seb128> pmcgowan, the fact that our current dev distro is not functionnal/lacking landing is bogus by design :-/
[13:39] <seb128> we should keep enforcing the "land in trunk first"
[13:39] <kenvandine> seb128, sorry... i'll admit we weren't really thinking about wily yet... or at least me :/
[13:39] <kenvandine> wily wasn't open
[13:39] <seb128> it's the only way to keep trunk working and make sure things don't get missing because they landed only in some random ppa
[13:39] <kenvandine> and we couldn't stop
[13:39] <kenvandine> well not random... it was the rolling vivid
[13:39] <seb128> kenvandine, yeah, we should have had a plan for pocket copying the overlay to wily on distro opening though
[13:40] <kenvandine> i thought there was a plan...
[13:40] <kenvandine> or at least someone said "we should sync from the overlay instead of vivid" and i heard that as it was being handled
[13:41] <kenvandine> and for the near term, trunk is going to continue to mean vivid not wily
[13:42] <kenvandine> which is going to cause this to be a continuing problem
[13:42] <kenvandine> so maybe regular automatic syncs?
[13:42] <kenvandine> i hate the idea of wily not matching trunk
[13:44] <seb128> me too
[13:44] <seb128> why can't we just land to wily + overlay
[13:44] <seb128> like we did to vivid + rtm distro previous cycle
[13:44] <kenvandine> that would be nice too... but that is quite a bit more work
[13:44] <seb128> why is it?
[13:44] <seb128> it was just some extra target in the landing lines no?
[13:45] <kenvandine> it wouldn't be if citrain did it for us automatically
[13:45] <kenvandine> but the extra testing and all is time consuming
[13:45] <kenvandine> we created 2 landings each time
[13:45] <kenvandine> one being a sync with rebuild
[13:45] <reveredge> hey can anyone help me with unlocking bootloader. I want to install ubuntu phone
[13:46] <kenvandine> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[13:46] <kenvandine> reveredge, ^^ should explain everything
[13:46] <kenvandine> assuming you're on a mako (nexus 4)
[13:46] <reveredge> adb reboot-bootloader doesn't boot me into bootloader
[13:46] <dobey> mpt: are you clear on the click scope then?
[13:47] <reveredge> It simply restarts phone
[13:49] <mpt> dobey, now that I think about it … No. :-) beuno says “click scope is the ubuntu store scope”. If that’s comprehensive, then what package provides the Apps scope?
[13:50] <dobey> mpt: apps and ubuntu store scopes are both from unity-scope-click package
[13:50] <mpt> Ok, thanks dobey
[13:50] <mpt> So what I put on the wiki is correct after all
[13:58] <sil2100> pitti: hey! Publishing your silo - just hope those are just systemd related changes, nothing that could impact us directly
[13:59] <pitti> sil2100: thanks; I just tested the PPA on mako
[13:59] <pitti> (and marked it in the spreadsheet)
[14:04] <pitti> sil2100: is it okay if I copy the two packages from the PPA to wily, to avoid the PPA getting ahead?
[14:05] <sil2100> Sure
[14:12] <sturmflut2> mzanetti: Now it gets weird. I built the Intel Android kernel, which supposedly has the necessary patches to fix the flash controller on this platform, and it also doesn't work. So no new Unity8 screenshots from this device for the near future :/
[14:14] <mzanetti> meh
[14:15] <sturmflut2> I still wonder how they got Windows to work on this thing
[14:16] <kenvandine> Elleo, bfiller: ubuntu-keyboard and settings synced to wily
[14:16] <kenvandine> seb128, ^^
[14:16] <seb128> kenvandine, great, thanks!
[14:16] <kenvandine> np
[14:16]  * kenvandine bumps depends too :)
[14:16] <Elleo> kenvandine: thanks
[14:16] <seb128> kenvandine, great :-)
[14:17] <Io07> test on
[14:20] <kenvandine> seb128, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/ubuntu-system-settings/keyboard_depends/+merge/258886
[14:21] <bfiller> kenvandine: thanks
[14:21] <seb128> kenvandine, ack
[14:22] <seb128> kenvandine, that doesn't match the version you just uploaded to wily but I guess it's right?
[14:22] <kenvandine> it's right
[14:22] <kenvandine> that's the version that introduced the schema change
[14:24] <seb128> k
[14:27] <kenvandine> alesage, hey, i'm looking at merging the settings helper from ubuntu-sanity-tests into settings
[14:27] <kenvandine> alesage, in test_sim_pin.py you have self.security_page.go_to_sim_lock()
[14:27] <kenvandine> that function doesn't exist... we have a _go_to_sim_lock() function, but it doesn't return a page
[14:28] <alesage> kenvandine, puzzling ok, I'd have to open this up again
[14:30] <kenvandine> alesage, yeah... i'm confused :)
[14:32] <alesage> kenvandine, I assume your code has moved out from under the sanity suite?  IIRC my SIM PIN test was dormant ubuntu-qa ?
[14:32] <alesage> asking for a lifeline here as I haven't worked on for many months
[14:32] <kenvandine> no idea
[14:32] <kenvandine> i was just looking at reworking my tests to use your helpers
[14:32] <kenvandine> and modeling it after your test in the sanity suite
[14:33] <kenvandine> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-sanity-tests/trunk/view/head:/ubuntu_sanity_tests/helpers/system_settings.py
[14:34] <kenvandine> alesage, ^^ elopio had asked us to merge that helper into settings, if you aren't using your test_sim_pin test anymore, then i guess we don't need to merge that helper?
[14:35] <fgimenez> alesage, the sim pin test is fully functional as far as i know, there's is a problem when it must be skipped but nothing to do with the test itself
[14:36] <kenvandine> fgimenez, well it appears to call a function that doesn't exist
[14:37] <fgimenez> kenvandine, that go_to_sim_lock you mentioned, right?
[14:37] <kenvandine> yeah
[14:37] <kenvandine> in the sanity suite that looks like it should return a page
[14:40] <fgimenez> kenvandine, ok, let me have a look
[14:40] <kenvandine> fgimenez, thx
[14:40] <kenvandine> i don't particularly need it
[14:40] <kenvandine> but it looks like somethings wrong there
[14:40] <kenvandine> and maybe i don't need to merge this helper into settings
[14:41] <seb128> kenvandine, is that specific to settings? if not there is no reason to include it there...
[14:42] <kenvandine> seb128, it's helpers used but the sanity suite, which QA asked to merge in the upstream projects, for reuse within the projects as well
[14:42] <kenvandine> they want us to maintain the helpers
[14:43] <seb128> hum, k
[14:43] <kenvandine> seb128, but from the looks of it, it must not be used anyway... so no point :)
[14:44] <seb128> even better :-)
[14:50] <fgimenez> kenvandine, the method is defined in the ubuntu_system_settings module http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/view/head:/tests/autopilot/ubuntu_system_settings/__init__.py#L107
[14:50] <fgimenez> kenvandine, once you import it you can use the SystemSettingsMainWindow custom proxy object
[14:51] <kenvandine> oh... i had did a grep for it in my branch... didn't find it
[14:52] <kenvandine> oh... wrong dir :)
[14:52] <kenvandine> sorry for the noise... /me goes back to bundling the helper :)
[14:54] <fgimenez> kenvandine, np :)
[15:40] <speck84_> Hiya all!
[15:40] <speck84_> Can somebody know how to set fix orientation my html5 app?
[15:41] <speck84_> I have tried several methods and nothing seems to be work
[15:45] <davmor2> speck84_: maybe ask on #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:46] <speck84_> davmor2 my friend told to to come here because overthere noone answared since 15:45
[15:46] <speck84_> Lets say long time ago
[17:29] <ahmed751995> hi
[17:30]  * mcphail reads /topic and decides to go back to RTM
[17:32] <MickeyVirus2> Does ubuntu touch support arm64 arch. Can i compile it with linaro.
[17:49] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: ping pong
[17:52] <mzanetti> SturmFlut: PENG!
[17:52] <SturmFlut> Argh! *drops dead*
[17:53] <mzanetti> SturmFlut, how can I help?
[17:53] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: I got Wily running on BayTrail ;) No crashes after an hour, it never lasted longer than twenty minutes before
[17:53] <mzanetti> oh wow
[17:53] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: Do I need the Unity8 PPA on Wily as well? Or does it come with all packages
[17:54] <mzanetti> SturmFlut: plan is that packages from the ppa are synced to wily. however, I can't say how reliable it's gonna be.
[17:55] <mzanetti> SturmFlut: for we're gonna stay on vivid+ppa. You might want to try to install wily's kernel on vivid or so if you want to follow progress
[17:55] <mzanetti> s/for/for now/
[17:56] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: I need to run a custom 4.0 kernel anyways for the time being
[17:56] <SturmFlut> Ahahaha it booted right into the welcome wizard
[18:00] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: What was the setting to change the UI scaling in Unity8?
[18:00] <mzanetti> GRID_UNIT_PX env
[18:01] <SturmFlut> Ah yes
[18:10] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: Err, where do I set GRID_UNIT_PX? I'm getting confused with systemd and upstart and Mir
[18:13] <mzanetti> SturmFlut, should work if you set it in /usr/share/upstart/sessions/unity8.conf
[18:13] <mzanetti> SturmFlut, use initctl set-env --global GRID_UNIT_PX=16
[18:13] <mzanetti> not sure if that's the best place to set it... but it worked for me last time I tried
[18:23] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: Okay, now I'm logged in. Scopes are full-screen, but apps start in Windows, and the Windows seem to immediately move "behind" the full-screen scope. Are there key bindings? Any documentation?
[18:37] <mzanetti> erm...
[18:38] <mzanetti> SturmFlut, I don't think I ever saw that... are you running Windowed or Staged mode?
[18:39] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: To be honest it looks like a combination. The lock screen, the PIN entry dialogue and the scopes all run in full-screen. If I start an app, I see a Window popping up for a second and then it disappears.
[18:39] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: If you wait a moment I'll post pictures
[18:39] <mzanetti> SturmFlut, gsettings get com.canonical.Unity8 usage-mode
[18:45] <dobey> SturmFlut: are you sure the apps aren't just crashing?
[18:47] <SturmFlut> dobey: Good point
[19:28] <SturmFlut> Okay, battery empty. More fun tomorrow.
[19:35] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/baytrail/2015/05/12/ubuntu-15-10-and-desktop-next-on-a-baytrail-tablet/
[19:36] <SturmFlut> dobey: Looking through the logfiles I see complaints about powerd not running, and it actually isn't running, but the systemd unit depends on the Android LXC container as it seems.
[19:40] <jgdx> kenvandine, merged your hotspot changes, but added no auto capital letter as well
[19:40] <kenvandine> cool
[19:40] <jgdx> kenvandine, also, there's a ap test now, testing a happy path (setup, chanage it, disable it)
[19:41] <kenvandine> woot
[19:41] <dobey> SturmFlut: makes sense
[19:41] <jgdx> kenvandine, your branch unhid the ui, I guess that was just for testing
[19:42] <kenvandine> well... we thought we'd land it with it showing
[19:42] <kenvandine> but we since decided we're not ready for that
[19:42] <kenvandine> so please hide it again :)
[19:42] <jgdx> done :)
[19:43] <jgdx> I wanted to unit test the cpp but got in some trouble... Seems I will need to mock urfkill, wpa_supplicant and nm
[19:43] <jgdx> not mock them, but just make an empty shell acting as them
[19:47] <SturmFlut> dobey: ...and I suspect that powerd would not work reliably because the ACPI power stuff is horribly broken, e.g. it detects the battery slot but thinks there is no battery plugged in.
[19:47] <dobey> SturmFlut: the challenges of porting to a new device
[19:48] <dobey> SturmFlut: for a long time the nexus5 would only show 50% battery when it was at 100%, because it was seeing two battery devices and only one with charge
[19:49] <SturmFlut> dobey: It's not actually real porting. BayTrail is a "standard" Intel x86 platform with UEFI and ACPI. It just took Intel forever to come up with the necessary kernel patches because the hardware needs some serious quirks.
[19:49] <SturmFlut> dobey: ...and stuff like 32 bit UEFI on a 64 bit CPU
[19:50] <dobey> well, the cpu being standard, and all the other random things being standard, are not the same thing
[19:50] <dobey> just because it's x86 doesn't mean it will operate like a normal PC
[19:52] <SturmFlut> dobey: True. In this case though it luckily operates like a normal PC. That's one of the reasons why I got the thing.
[19:55] <jgdx> [1] is a good question, anyone know the answer? [1] http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/35qrzu/ota_35_is_out_now_for_ubuntu_touch_devices/cr6wkk9
[20:00] <dobey> jgdx: "ask the manufacturer" mostly, and "until it's no longer plausible to have the software running on the outdated/unsupported hardware" otherwise, i would guess. iow, roughly the same as ubuntu on anything else
[20:12] <SturmFlut> Good night!
[20:14] <Benno-0071> Sleep well! ;)
[20:52] <speck84> hiya guys can somebody tell me how can i set my html5 app into portrait mode only?
[21:11] <pleia2> so, I have a really long wifi password, I've tried typing it in a couple times (may have mis-typed) but no luck having it take... is it possible for me to just paste the password in? If so, can't seem to figure out how
[21:12] <pleia2> I copied it from an email, maybe I just don't know how to paste :)
[21:15] <jgdx> pleia2, it does not seem the text field supports pasting. But you can press "Show password" to see it in clear text.
[21:15] <dobey> pleia2: i'm not sure if snap decisions can do copy/paste. i can't seem to get the pop-up on my n4. the phone is just using networkmanager though, so as an alternate method, you can just edit the file in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections in the terminal or over adb with phablet-shell
[21:16] <pleia2> jgdx: yeah, I've been showing the password, but eyes
[21:16] <pleia2> dobey: thanks, I'll try that with adb
[21:16] <dobey> so edit /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/YourNetworkName
[21:16] <jgdx> dobey, should they?
[21:16] <jgdx> I think so, I'll file a bug
[21:17] <dobey> jgdx: i would think so; i really hate when web sites disable pasting in some text fields with js. really annoying :-/
[21:18] <jgdx> dobey, why would they do that?
[21:19] <dobey> jgdx: because they don't want you to copy/paste your e-mail address to the "confirm your e-mail address" field, or to copy/paste your account number into a box for some reason. i have no idea what sane person would be compelled to such nonsense though :(
[21:22] <jgdx> maybe robots really rule the world and they create forms like that to annoy humans
[21:22] <jgdx> idk just a theory
[21:23] <pleia2> hehe
[21:24] <jgdx> bug 1454416
[21:31] <pleia2> dobey: that worked, thank you so much :)
[21:33] <dobey> no problem :)
[21:42] <NIN101> pleia2: even if you could paste it, you couldn't probably connect: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1445630
[21:43] <pleia2> NIN101: aha, so it's entirely possible that I did type it in correctly, at least once, thanks
[22:12] <jgdx> kenvandine, sweet having passing ap tests on ci runs again. You did awesome there
[22:13] <jgdx> also, the hotspot branch passed
[23:12] <daker> speck84: it's not possible atm
[23:16] <speck84> ?
[23:16] <speck84> what do u mean by atm?