| bluesabre | good evening folks | 00:43 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | Well hey! It's a bluesabre! | 00:43 |
| bluesabre | oh hey, we have abiword/gnumeric/libreoffice/gimp all installed | 00:50 |
| bluesabre | how'd that happen :\ | 00:50 |
| Unit193 | You updated the seed without the meta, right? | 00:50 |
| bluesabre | yeah, updated the seed the other day before the meta branch was available | 00:51 |
| Unit193 | Tadaaaa. | 00:51 |
| bluesabre | so I'm just surpised to see LO there with everything else | 00:51 |
| Unit193 | Not really. | 00:51 |
| bluesabre | time to dig in :) | 00:52 |
| Unit193 | Need anything? | 00:55 |
| bluesabre | not sure yet, you going to go hide? | 00:58 |
| bluesabre | :) | 00:58 |
| bluesabre | can't blame you ;) | 00:58 |
| Unit193 | Well, it's hot so there's that, and I do have my summer headache. :P | 00:59 |
| bluesabre | germinate is dying hard | 01:00 |
| bluesabre | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11087597/ | 01:00 |
| bluesabre | suppose I can go edit the code and learn more | 01:01 |
| Unit193 | wiley? | 01:01 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 01:01 |
| bluesabre | er | 01:01 |
| Unit193 | !wily | 01:01 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) will be the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Discussion in #ubuntu+1 | 01:01 |
| bluesabre | ah | 01:01 |
| bluesabre | dang it | 01:01 |
| bluesabre | :p | 01:01 |
| * Unit193 tazes bluesabre. | 01:02 | |
| * bluesabre deserves it | 01:02 | |
| bluesabre | ok, you can go away Unit193, germinate is smarter when I type correctly | 01:06 |
| Unit193 | hah. | 01:06 |
| bluesabre | ahhhhh http://paste.ubuntu.com/11087738/ | 01:14 |
| * Unit193 had forgotten about gimp actually passing. | 01:17 | |
| bluesabre | Unit193: still around | 02:12 |
| bluesabre | ? | 02:12 |
| Unit193 | No. | 02:16 |
| bluesabre | too late | 02:18 |
| bluesabre | :D | 02:18 |
| bluesabre | now to figure out how to set -tango as the default scheme in x-d-s | 02:18 |
| Unit193 | Doesn't by default? | 02:21 |
| bluesabre | dunno | 02:21 |
| bluesabre | might prefer some other by default | 02:21 |
| bluesabre | galaxy is the one lo ships with | 02:21 |
| Unit193 | And we have galaxy? | 02:21 |
| bluesabre | looks like tango does get default | 02:22 |
| bluesabre | so thats pleasant | 02:22 |
| bluesabre | good to see that lo is smart in that regard | 02:22 |
| Unit193 | Now to keep -math and -base out. :P | 02:22 |
| bluesabre | sound like fun | 02:23 |
| bluesabre | blacklist magic? | 02:23 |
| Unit193 | I don't remember being explicit about which I install, and libreoffice-style-tango is installed. | 02:23 |
| Unit193 | Sure galaxy is default? :P | 02:23 |
| * bluesabre doesn't know anymore | 02:23 | |
| bluesabre | -tango is default on today's image | 02:24 |
| bluesabre | so thats a good sign at least | 02:24 |
| bluesabre | and base is not installed, just math to deal with | 02:25 |
| bluesabre | is that possible to get rid of, I think that power's writer's latex ability | 02:25 |
| bluesabre | seems to be | 02:26 |
| bluesabre | need to stop writing before I test things | 02:26 |
| bluesabre | :D | 02:26 |
| Unit193 | It's a seperate thing. | 02:26 |
| bluesabre | gotcha | 02:26 |
| bluesabre | so, just blacklist -math might do the trick | 02:27 |
| Unit193 | Doubt it, but hey. | 02:27 |
| bluesabre | heyyyyy | 02:28 |
| Unit193 | How you doin'? ;) | 02:28 |
| Unit193 | blacklist is kind of useless, just makes sure something isn't selected as part of the task, not whether it's installed or not. | 02:29 |
| bluesabre | ah | 02:29 |
| Unit193 | Only way to nicely do that is to create an xubuntu-blacklists package that conflicts (which I'd love, but that'd make micahg very unhappy, understandably so.) | 02:29 |
| bluesabre | ah | 02:29 |
| bluesabre | a | 02:30 |
| bluesabre | :D | 02:30 |
| bluesabre | well, we can hack on it and figure something out in the next few days | 02:30 |
| Unit193 | I'd like to get gnome-user-guide and -math out, maybe some others, but oh well. | 02:31 |
| bluesabre | when we start with the blueprints, get those on there :) | 02:31 |
| * micahg suggests leaving math as it's small | 02:32 | |
| * bluesabre waves at micahg | 02:33 | |
| micahg | I think we also lose a version of webkit now as well | 02:33 |
| micahg | hi bluesabre | 02:33 |
| Unit193 | Oh what dropped it? | 02:33 |
| micahg | gimp | 02:33 |
| micahg | unless that was patched | 02:33 |
| Unit193 | And yeah, understandable if that needed gtk2 webkit, ubiquity needs the other. | 02:33 |
| micahg | oh, looks like that was patched out already, nevermind | 02:34 |
| Unit193 | Anywho, just pointed out you'd not like -blacklist at all, didn't want to bother you too much. :P | 02:35 |
| bluesabre | thanks | 02:35 |
| micahg | I'm slightly concerned about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-application-gtk2/12.10.0.1-0ubuntu3, ISTR we had an issue with the indicator gtk2 and gtk3 packages installing the same service | 02:36 |
| micahg | we could just install the service in a separate binary that mate could seed | 02:37 |
| micahg | or maybe it doesn't break anymore, idk, but it's something that should be tested | 02:38 |
| bluesabre | yeah, we did have an issue with that and at least one of the indicators | 02:38 |
| bluesabre | I'll be sure to take a look at that | 02:38 |
| micahg | thanks | 02:38 |
| Unit193 | indicator-*-gtk2 need to go away as they don't really work well. :3 | 02:38 |
| micahg | well, as soon as all the panel plugins are gtk3 it can go, right? | 02:39 |
| Unit193 | We don't use it ourselves, not sure it even works in Lubuntu but LXQt will make it of no use, so it's just MATE. | 02:40 |
| bluesabre | not sure, I was thinking that package was support for gtk2 panels | 02:40 |
| Unit193 | Yes. | 02:40 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-indicator-plugin is gtk3. | 02:41 |
| bluesabre | xfce panel wraps gtk2 and gtk3 and has escaped the issue | 02:41 |
| micahg | oh, we're not using it anymore | 02:41 |
| * micahg apparently is working with out of date info... | 02:41 | |
| micahg | seeded-in-ubuntu indicator-application-gtk2 | 02:41 |
| micahg | indicator-application-gtk2 (from indicator-application-gtk2) is seeded in: | 02:41 |
| micahg | lubuntu: daily, daily-live | 02:41 |
| micahg | hum, so lubuntu is using both... | 02:44 |
| Unit193 | Using, or shipping? :) | 02:44 |
| micahg | daily/daily-live | 02:44 |
| Unit193 | lxpanel-indicator-applet-plugin Depends: libgtk2.0-0 | 02:44 |
| Unit193 | Ah right, yeah they still use alternates. | 02:45 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Oooh, going to email -permissions soon? :3 | 02:46 |
| bluesabre | re xfce? | 02:47 |
| micahg | what's the question? | 02:47 |
| Unit193 | Yep, bluesabre. | 02:47 |
| bluesabre | wanting to get an xfce packageset | 02:47 |
| micahg | do we need an xfce and xubuntu? | 02:47 |
| Unit193 | xfce would include stuff we don't ship, nor plan to. | 02:48 |
| bluesabre | ^ | 02:48 |
| micahg | do we want to support t? | 02:48 |
| bluesabre | I'm one of the xfce devs, so it feels kinda natural for me | 02:49 |
| bluesabre | :) | 02:49 |
| Unit193 | Sean/(eventually I) would like access to it, at least. Like xfce4-time-out-plugin, -eyes-plugin, thunar-dropbox, xfdashboard, etc. | 02:49 |
| micahg | if xubuntu wants to support the xfce packages we're not shipping, just add them to the supported seed | 02:49 |
| micahg | if xubuntu doesn't want to support them, then there could be a case for a packageset | 02:50 |
| bluesabre | we'd want to maintain them, but not ship them | 02:51 |
| micahg | I believe that's the purpose of the supported seed | 02:51 |
| Unit193 | Fancy.. | 02:51 |
| bluesabre | aha | 02:52 |
| bluesabre | somehow missed that all this time :) | 02:52 |
| Unit193 | Do they have to already exist in the archive? | 02:52 |
| micahg | yes | 02:53 |
| micahg | need a sync? | 02:53 |
| Unit193 | We're planning on bringing in xfdashboard and xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin for wily. | 02:53 |
| micahg | they're not in Debian either, right? | 02:54 |
| Unit193 | Right. | 02:54 |
| micahg | ok, well, the flavor packagesets are updated semi-regularly, so whenever they make it in the archive, they can be added to supported | 02:55 |
| micahg | I think the Ubuntu supported seed is a better guide for what's possible | 02:55 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Time to trim d/changelog, update vcs, and upload? | 02:56 |
| bluesabre | seems so | 02:59 |
| bluesabre | micahg: thanks for the pointers, I'll take a look at that in the coming days | 02:59 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/FGxfJj2w18rSHySndG7f | 03:01 |
| bluesabre | tidy | 03:02 |
| Unit193 | If you're good, I'll commit and be done. :D | 03:02 |
| bluesabre | looks good to me | 03:04 |
| bluesabre | do we have a needs-packaging bug for that one? we can start poking and maybe get micahg to +1 it | 03:05 |
| * micahg suggests uploading to Debian... | 03:05 | |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Puuushed. | 03:06 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: let's get it into pkg-xfce then :) | 03:08 |
| Unit193 | Goooooood luck.. | 03:08 |
| * bluesabre will try to get himself closer to pkg-xfce | 03:09 | |
| micahg | hrm, I thouhgt I had access at some point, apparently I don't | 03:10 |
| micahg | https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-xfce | 03:10 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: So we, Xubuntu, would like to maintain it under the pkg-xfce umbrella or what? I figure I'll try talking to Corsac. | 03:11 |
| Unit193 | micahg: Yeah, SVN. :/ | 03:11 |
| Unit193 | s/would like/would be willing/ | 03:11 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 03:12 |
| bluesabre | since its an "official" xfce project now, should be easier | 03:12 |
| bluesabre | I wonder if Corsac would add me if I just clicked the request to join button... | 03:15 |
| bluesabre | worth a shot :) | 03:15 |
| Unit193 | We need to figure out the svn workflow. :/ | 03:19 |
| bluesabre | I've done it a bit before with pkg-xfce | 03:20 |
| bluesabre | er | 03:20 |
| bluesabre | python | 03:20 |
| bluesabre | :D | 03:20 |
| bluesabre | PAPT | 03:20 |
| Unit193 | I have not. \o/ | 03:21 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Both xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin and xfdashboard are now waiting and ready for wily! | 03:21 |
| micahg | http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-xfce/desktop/trunk/ | 03:22 |
| Unit193 | Yep, exactly... | 03:22 |
| micahg | git is better... | 03:22 |
| bluesabre | !svn is better | 03:23 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: cvs? | 03:23 |
| bluesabre | ah | 03:23 |
| bluesabre | nvm | 03:23 |
| bluesabre | <3 git | 03:23 |
| Unit193 | I'll take git, hg, or even bzr. | 03:23 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Think we can con micahg into uploading? | 03:24 |
| micahg | Unit193: did my GPG key magically make it into the Debian keyring? | 03:24 |
| Unit193 | micahg: I meant Ubuntu. :P | 03:25 |
| micahg | it's early, any reason we can't go through Debian? | 03:25 |
| bluesabre | no reason, just ubuntu is easier. We'll get it into debian | 03:28 |
| Unit193 | Pretty much... | 03:28 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Since you're there, gonna ask? | 03:29 |
| bluesabre | actually, was going to bed now | 03:30 |
| Unit193 | Awwh, sleepy Seany. | 03:30 |
| bluesabre | but I can ask tomorrow after Corsac sees my pkg-xfce join request | 03:30 |
| Unit193 | Hah, well alright. Good luck sir, and good luck sleeping.. | 03:30 |
| bluesabre | thanks | 03:31 |
| bluesabre | good luck sleeping, or drinking coffee, or recharging, whichever you do :D | 03:31 |
| micahg | if we get closer to alpha 1 and it's not in, we can look at going through Ubuntu, otherwise, I'd much prefer going through Debian | 03:32 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: FWIW, last I knew he wasn't interested in thunar-dropbox. | 03:32 |
| bluesabre | we can try again | 03:33 |
| bluesabre | and I can put my seal of approval on it | 03:33 |
| Unit193 | (It's in Debian already, but my package. Feel free though!) | 03:33 |
| bluesabre | if thats worth anything | 03:33 |
| bluesabre | :D | 03:33 |
| Unit193 | G'night, sleep well. | 03:33 |
| Unit193 | Speaking of which, xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, new version, PPA'd. | 07:17 |
| elfy | Unit193: in one of the team ppa's or yours | 07:24 |
| Unit193 | elfy: xubuntu-dev/extras to be exact, team ppa. | 07:24 |
| elfy | oh - don't use that one | 07:24 |
| elfy | just the staging and dev one | 07:25 |
| Unit193 | Makes sense, those aren't in the real repo yet. | 07:25 |
| elfy | I guess if we're going to move to that it'll end up on one of the 2 eventually | 07:25 |
| xnox | so i think xfce looks slick | 09:20 |
| * xnox ponders to switch from unity | 09:20 | |
| Unit193 | Nice! We try out best. | 09:21 |
| Luyin | xnox go for it baby :P | 09:21 |
| xnox | wow! snap to corner! | 11:09 |
| xnox | yes! i want that! | 11:09 |
| * xnox ponders if i can still have all of my indicators | 11:10 | |
| xnox | and the xfce panels seem to overlap badly horum. | 11:10 |
| * xnox kind of likes unity launcher - which is combination of favorites & current windows | 11:10 | |
| Unit193 | Thought there was a panel plugin for that... | 11:16 |
| * xnox ponders how much stuff will break if I keep ubuntu-desktop installed and install xubuntu-desktop on top. | 11:18 | |
| Unit193 | Not sure if it's one of the things you liked, but there's xfdashboard. Also, if you're going to do that, I'd recommend xubuntu-core over xubuntu-desktop. | 11:18 |
| xnox | ok. and i'll study shiny things that i'm missing, just by inspecting the seeds. | 11:27 |
| Unit193 | Unity likes indicators, xfce likes panel plugins. :P | 11:28 |
| xnox | ok, it looks mostly ok | 11:32 |
| xnox | i did "xubuntu session" rather than "xfce session" | 11:32 |
| xnox | a few things give away that i have dual stack installed.... e.g. panel indicators are just plain weird. | 11:33 |
| xnox | but it's ok | 11:33 |
| xnox | however, the panel doesn't duplicate on to dual-screen =( | 11:33 |
| xnox | ok worked it out, i think | 11:40 |
| bluesabre | today's image, is this the same issue we were having before with the install freezing on restart? http://i.imgur.com/2NlabKo.png | 11:55 |
| bluesabre | live runs fine, install looks good, just the restart bit | 11:56 |
| bluesabre | gotta run now... | 11:57 |
| bluesabre | pleia2: sorry I can't make it to the meeting, but I hope you get a lot of attendance from the others :) | 11:58 |
| bluesabre | everyone else, seed updated last night, so now we have removed abiword/gnumeric/gimp and have libreoffice writer/calc/math | 11:58 |
| bluesabre | bbl | 11:59 |
| elfy | bluesabre: not tried for a few days - but restart was same as before - fail in vm | 12:31 |
| xnox | horum. i don't like it. | 12:51 |
| xnox | ended up making it look like unity | 12:51 |
| xnox | and there are annoying things about it - lack of global menu, multi-monitor panels, and so on. | 12:51 |
| xnox | e.g. i have a panel for each of the dual monitors, but i need to add things to whisker menu "favourites" twice.... per each screen =( | 12:52 |
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| pleia2 | almost meeting time | 17:57 |
| elfy | almost | 17:57 |
| pleia2 | #startmeeting | 18:00 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue May 12 18:00:31 2015 UTC. The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 18:00 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 18:00 |
| pleia2 | hello! who all is here for the xubuntu community meeting? | 18:00 |
| elfy | piskie is | 18:00 |
| pleia2 | o/ elfy | 18:01 |
| pleia2 | I guess we'll wait a couple minutes for the crowds to gather | 18:01 |
| elfy | yep | 18:01 |
| pleia2 | !team | meeting time! | 18:02 |
| ubottu | meeting time!: bluesabre, elfy, jjfrv8, knome, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 | 18:02 |
| pleia2 | Agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings#Agenda | 18:03 |
| elfy | lots about ... | 18:03 |
| pleia2 | #topic Open action items | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | elfy to draft an EOL announcement (with other flavors) | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | that was done :) | 18:04 |
| elfy | yea | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | xubuntu-docs to throw the ball around about the FAQ articles | 18:04 |
| pleia2 | dunno about that one | 18:05 |
| pleia2 | (which is also our first agenda item) | 18:05 |
| elfy | there was a mail to the list | 18:05 |
| pleia2 | yeah, last month | 18:05 |
| pleia2 | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2015-April/010697.html | 18:05 |
| elfy | bluesabre replied - no-one else did | 18:05 |
| * pleia2 nods | 18:05 | |
| elfy | can't remember positively - but think there was some discussion in channel and a sort of acceptance it might be a good thing | 18:06 |
| pleia2 | wfm | 18:06 |
| elfy | but - given it was a knome - might be better to just move on today | 18:06 |
| * pleia2 nods | 18:06 | |
| elfy | *thinh | 18:06 |
| pleia2 | that was it for open action items | 18:06 |
| pleia2 | #topic Team updates | 18:06 |
| elfy | lol | 18:06 |
| pleia2 | I don't have anything | 18:06 |
| elfy | #info QA started to plan Wily | 18:07 |
| pleia2 | yay | 18:07 |
| elfy | that's it :p | 18:07 |
| pleia2 | :) | 18:07 |
| pleia2 | alright, on to agenda items | 18:07 |
| pleia2 | Rebooting the FAQ articles is on the list, but no knome or docs people, so maybe we bump until next meeting | 18:08 |
| elfy | wfm | 18:08 |
| pleia2 | Package testing, anyone? | 18:08 |
| elfy | well yes :D | 18:08 |
| pleia2 | #topic Package testing | 18:08 |
| elfy | so - this is bluesabre and my position | 18:08 |
| elfy | http://pastebin.com/Q4KEDumc | 18:08 |
| elfy | which boils down to lets not bother this cycle | 18:09 |
| elfy | http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/327/builds/82959/testcases | 18:09 |
| elfy | is what got tested and reported to the tracker last cycle | 18:09 |
| elfy | I will move forward assuming that we are NOT going to bother with packages.qa.ubuntu.com | 18:09 |
| pleia2 | makes sense | 18:10 |
| elfy | unless someone pipes up with a reasonable reason as to why we should | 18:10 |
| elfy | but - kind of plan in the paste referenced above = mail list and ping social media if and when we've got a specific testing need | 18:10 |
| * pleia2 nods | 18:11 | |
| elfy | done on that | 18:11 |
| pleia2 | people seem more excited when we do it that way anyway, wall-of-package-tests is less fun | 18:11 |
| elfy | indeed | 18:11 |
| pleia2 | alright | 18:11 |
| pleia2 | #topic Milestones to take part in | 18:11 |
| elfy | :) | 18:11 |
| elfy | so the simple question is do we start at Beta again - or earlier - or play it by ear and see what happens pre Alpha | 18:12 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 18:12 |
| elfy | #action elfy to mail -dev list re Milestone participation during Wily cycle | 18:12 |
| meetingology | ACTION: elfy to mail -dev list re Milestone participation during Wily cycle | 18:12 |
| pleia2 | ++ | 18:13 |
| elfy | pleia2: you can move on then if you like now :) | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | #topic QA Incentive | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | so, last cycle we tried plying people with stickers to do QA | 18:13 |
| elfy | ooh look - another one I need to be about for :p | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | it failed | 18:13 |
| elfy | and you :D | 18:13 |
| elfy | yep | 18:13 |
| pleia2 | I've been reading this book recently and I think I know why http://www.danpink.com/drive/ | 18:14 |
| elfy | and given the time involved - not particularly interested in investing those hours and hours once more | 18:14 |
| pleia2 | people don't do this kind of thing to be awarded $15 in stickers | 18:14 |
| pleia2 | and offering it kind of devalues the whole process | 18:14 |
| pleia2 | most of the people who "won" stickers each time were surprised, one only accepted so he could give to his students/colleagues | 18:15 |
| pleia2 | so, oops :) | 18:15 |
| elfy | maybe so - but on the other hand - asking people to do it - failed too | 18:15 |
| pleia2 | indeed | 18:15 |
| elfy | perhaps the best thing would be for me to actually follow through on last cycles threat | 18:15 |
| pleia2 | so in learning more about motivation, I learned that the best thing we can do is give incentives that improve their rank in our dev community | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | stickers meh, noting & thanking people who are doing well in QA on social media and stuff has social capital that is valuable to these kinds of contributors | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | elfy: stepping down? | 18:16 |
| pleia2 | don't do that :) | 18:17 |
| elfy | that implies getting people involved - which is just aas much an uphill struggle | 18:17 |
| elfy | pleia2: lol - no - I told ochosi I would be here for Wily - and by extension X too - wouldn't drop anyone in that | 18:17 |
| pleia2 | it is, but we don't have a choice really, it needs to be done, QA test won't do themselves! | 18:17 |
| pleia2 | oh ok :) <3 | 18:17 |
| elfy | not mark things ready if not tested enough- even if it is Release Candidate | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | ah, yes | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | that would probably encourage more testing from the team, I hope | 18:18 |
| pleia2 | which needs to happen, I didn't do any tests last cycle :( | 18:18 |
| elfy | well - you know my position on that | 18:18 |
| elfy | if I can't expect the people putting their name on the release - how am I supposed to expect anyone else to do so | 18:19 |
| pleia2 | indeed | 18:19 |
| elfy | anyway - wording change from drc off channel re previous statement | 18:19 |
| elfy | s/rank/standing/ sounds better, more "comunity" than "team" | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | I don't have permission to paste it in a logged meeting | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | oh ok :) | 18:20 |
| pleia2 | and yeah, words | 18:20 |
| elfy | he can slap me if he wants to | 18:20 |
| elfy | anyway - yes - in theory that's great | 18:20 |
| elfy | but what do we do to move from theory to reality | 18:21 |
| pleia2 | ultimately, my goal with this agenda item was to review what we did, why it went bad and see if we can come up with better ideas moving forward | 18:21 |
| elfy | frankly - the QA team is probably the easiest one to move into - and thence TEAM | 18:21 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 18:21 |
| elfy | well that's fine in and of itself as a goal | 18:21 |
| elfy | but MY problem is *now* not in 3 months :) | 18:22 |
| elfy | and if iirc - one of the reasons in that 'team' | 18:22 |
| elfy | (the QA team) | 18:22 |
| * pleia2 nods | 18:22 | |
| pleia2 | alright, well I think it's decided that we won't do a formalized sticker thing again | 18:23 |
| elfy | I'd say that this topic is probably best dealt with in m/l | 18:23 |
| elfy | yea - I'm rather implacably -1 on doing that again | 18:23 |
| pleia2 | want me to write an email re: incentives to the list? | 18:24 |
| elfy | I think so - perhaps get the discussion moving at least - follow up with a more detailed review - if that's even possible - later | 18:24 |
| pleia2 | wfm | 18:24 |
| pleia2 | #action pleia2 to email list re: QA and incentives | 18:25 |
| meetingology | ACTION: pleia2 to email list re: QA and incentives | 18:25 |
| elfy | we can start from the Marketing won't send them, QA won't give Marketing the data anyway stance :p | 18:25 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 18:25 |
| pleia2 | it was a fun experiment, but I don't think there will be any complaints about ending it | 18:25 |
| elfy | nope | 18:26 |
| pleia2 | #topic Announcements & Discussion | 18:26 |
| pleia2 | anything else? | 18:26 |
| elfy | not from me | 18:26 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I'm all set | 18:26 |
| elfy | ok | 18:26 |
| pleia2 | #action Unit193 to schedule next meeting | 18:26 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Unit193 to schedule next meeting | 18:26 |
| pleia2 | have a nice week :) | 18:27 |
| pleia2 | #endmeeting | 18:27 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue May 12 18:27:15 2015 UTC. | 18:27 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-05-12-18.00.moin.txt | 18:27 |
| pleia2 | woo, half hour until my next meeting | 18:27 |
| elfy | but as I really going to want to be a bit twitchy about getting things set up - if Unit193 wants to swap with me - that is fine by me | 18:27 |
| pleia2 | :) | 18:28 |
| pleia2 | I'll try to do post-meeting tasks after work today, unless someone gets to them first | 18:28 |
| elfy | pleia2: if I get time I'll try and fight through it - if I do I'll let you know in channel | 18:29 |
| pleia2 | k :) | 18:29 |
| Unit193 | elfy: You want the next meeting you say? | 18:52 |
| elfy | Unit193: not so much want it - depends when you set it for | 19:00 |
| elfy | pleia2: think I have done it all | 19:08 |
| pleia2 | elfy: thank you, sir! | 19:08 |
| elfy | never having seen a "this is the post-meeting tasks" document I wouldn't be sure though :D | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes/Community#Meetings :) | 19:10 |
| elfy | oh - never read that stuff | 19:10 |
| pleia2 | hahah | 19:11 |
| elfy | not done team report | 19:12 |
| elfy | nothing to report atm | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I usually do that in bulk at some point anyway | 19:14 |
| elfy | lol | 19:17 |
| elfy | biab | 19:18 |
| elfy | Unit193: which sounds like a trick question ... | 19:42 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Well I'm up for whatever makes it better for you (well, not whatever. I won't do both meetings!) | 20:11 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/205835987/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-i386.xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin_0.4.6-1_BUILDING.txt.gz ftbfs, patch! | 20:11 |
| elfy | Unit193: ha ha ha | 20:12 |
| elfy | I guess I'd swap if you set it for June | 20:12 |
| Unit193 | Oh, I was going to set it for July. | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | lol | 20:13 |
| elfy | yea - that's what I meant - August | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | 28th is looking decent. | 20:15 |
| elfy | of? | 20:16 |
| pleia2 | september | 20:16 |
| elfy | works for me :) | 20:16 |
| elfy | already appear to have a broken Wily install \o/ | 20:17 |
| elfy | that's the quickest for a long time :p | 20:17 |
| pleia2 | hah | 20:18 |
| elfy | 90s to reboot while it fails to do something, the clean install I did an hour ago is fine | 20:19 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: oh nooooooooooooooooooes | 22:21 |
| micahg | heh | 22:21 |
| micahg | I saw that last night | 22:21 |
| bluesabre | hey micahg | 22:22 |
| micahg | didn't get a chance to do anything about it yet | 22:22 |
| micahg | hi bluesabre | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | I'll poke it now | 22:22 |
| * Unit193 scratches head. | 22:22 | |
| micahg | source format 3 requires defuzzed patches IIRC | 22:23 |
| Unit193 | Yep. | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | easy fix most likely | 22:23 |
| micahg | not sure why Debian is different though | 22:23 |
| Unit193 | Not only unfuzzed, but no offset. | 22:23 |
| Unit193 | micahg: ubuntu.series. | 22:23 |
| micahg | Ah :) | 22:24 |
| * micahg jumps on the pkg-xfce bandwagon | 22:24 | |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Askaskaskaskaskaskaskaskask! | 22:24 |
| Unit193 | micahg: Yey! | 22:24 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: so we're intested in getting xfdashboard and pulseaudio-plugin in first, IIRC? | 22:28 |
| bluesabre | interested too | 22:28 |
| Unit193 | Da. | 22:28 |
| Unit193 | Wait, you're the XTL, you tell me! | 22:28 |
| bluesabre | It's a team effort ;) | 22:29 |
| Unit193 | New pulse, didn't upload to lp, just bitb. :P | 22:31 |
| bluesabre | there | 22:31 |
| bluesabre | I asked | 22:32 |
| bluesabre | yay me | 22:32 |
| * bluesabre throws a celebratory pizza in the oven | 22:32 | |
| Unit193 | Yey! | 22:32 |
| Unit193 | Good job on keeping up with the nicks! | 22:33 |
| bluesabre | got scared when I couldn't tab-complete | 22:34 |
| bluesabre | Un-tab-what!? | 22:34 |
| Unit193 | Aha. :D | 22:35 |
| bluesabre | oh | 23:16 |
| bluesabre | not in my packageset... | 23:17 |
| bluesabre | just required a quilt refresh, maybe I should poke Corsac about it and let it get in via debian | 23:17 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Poke? You mean push? | 23:18 |
| Unit193 | And figured as much, but nevertheless it's a ftbfs. | 23:18 |
| bluesabre | yup | 23:19 |
| bluesabre | poked | 23:22 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Did you miss that you have access in pkg-xfce? | 23:23 |
| bluesabre | oh | 23:25 |
| bluesabre | I did miss that | 23:25 |
| bluesabre | I miss lots of things | 23:25 |
| Unit193 | That's what the 'welcome' was about. | 23:25 |
| bluesabre | aha | 23:25 |
| bluesabre | >.< | 23:25 |
| Unit193 | Well, I'm here to help, in several different ways it seems. | 23:25 |
| bluesabre | so it seems | 23:26 |
| bluesabre | maybe you can manage my inbox for me :) | 23:26 |
| Unit193 | Ahaha. :D | 23:26 |
| bluesabre | maybe I can fix things and apologize before he gets online ;) | 23:28 |
| Unit193 | ...For breaking the repo? :D | 23:30 |
| knome | good evening. | 23:45 |
| bluesabre | hey knome! | 23:46 |
| knome | hello bluesabre | 23:47 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: lookie, its a svn commit! | 23:47 |
| bluesabre | knome: seems like you've been away for a little while, wb! | 23:48 |
| knome | yep, i was in berlin since last tuesday | 23:48 |
| bluesabre | oh nice | 23:48 |
| knome | not nice, berlin | 23:48 |
| knome | :d | 23:48 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: So I saw. :) | 23:48 |
| Unit193 | krytarik: ^ | 23:49 |
| bluesabre | let's see what I broke once Corsac gets back >.< | 23:49 |
| bluesabre | running out for a bit, bbabl | 23:49 |
| knome | hf | 23:49 |
| * micahg tries building from it | 23:50 | |
| micahg | works in wily :) | 23:57 |
| * micahg needs new sid chroot | 23:57 | |
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