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davidcalle | Morning all o/ | 06:46 |
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justCarakas | Morning all | 06:53 |
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dholbach | good morning | 07:16 |
Mirv | what do people think, would http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qmlstatemachine.html be useful to have for our apps? opinions? | 07:55 |
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DanChapman | Mirv: I would definately welcome the state machine framework. It would ceratinly help (for me anyway) to layout a much clearer behavioural description of a program. | 08:19 |
Mirv | bzoltan: ^ | 08:20 |
Mirv | DanChapman: thanks for the input. it just occurred to us when we were looking that we're currently missing qml-module-qtqml-models2 and then bzoltan checked what else we might want to have | 08:21 |
DanChapman | Mirv IIRC we already have all the models in QtQml.models provided by QtQuick but with a different name ObjectModel ->VisualItemModel, DelegateModel - > VisualDataModel, DelegateModelGroup -> VisualDataGroup. | 08:35 |
Mirv | DanChapman: so this'd be http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtqml-models-qmlmodule.html | 08:39 |
Mirv | not sure what's the difference indeed | 08:40 |
Mirv | anyway, the qml module 100kB in size | 08:41 |
Mirv | and another developer requested to have it | 08:41 |
DanChapman | Mirv http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-visualitemmodel.html suggests the Visual* models provided by QtQuick are only kept for compatability reasons. | 08:44 |
DanChapman | s/suggests/says | 08:44 |
Mirv | right | 08:46 |
vitimiti | I am trying to build a program for the rtm-14.09 emulator, but when I run qmake it says it can't find "feature ubuntu-click" for the load(ubuntu-click) command, and the manifest.json.in file disappears from the files list. How can I fix this? | 08:54 |
dholbach | dpm, balloons, davidcalle, mhall119: if you're a bit bored and want to do something different for a change, maybe you can review a bit of code: https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/1433525/+merge/258866 :-P | 09:29 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN_: good morning. addressed comments in https://code.launchpad.net/~uriboni/webbrowser-app/find-in-page/+merge/258225 and left some replies too | 09:38 |
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oSoMoN_ | nerochiaro, thanks, I’ll take a look | 09:39 |
oSoMoN_ | nerochiaro, can you please revert revision 998 ? we do pot updates separately, directly on trunk, to avoid conflicts when landing several MRs that can potentially update the template | 09:45 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN_: reverted | 09:46 |
oSoMoN_ | thx | 09:46 |
leblast | Hello, what are you working on :) | 10:10 |
oSoMoN | nerochiaro, I commented on https://code.launchpad.net/~uriboni/webbrowser-app/find-in-page/+merge/258225 | 10:10 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: my point about the string is that the slash is just a visual thing, i could be an icon. but I will i18n it anyway | 10:12 |
ogra_ | popey, whom do i poke to get ubottu into #snappy ? | 10:12 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: it might be relevant for RTL languages, that's the only thing I can think of | 10:12 |
oSoMoN | nerochiaro, or other more exotic languages you don’t know of | 10:13 |
oSoMoN | nerochiaro, that’s my point, one can’t possibly know all languages out there, so we have to assume this might be translated to look different in another language | 10:13 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: fair enough. i'm on it. though i am ready to bet 20 bucks that it will not get translated | 10:14 |
nerochiaro | ;) | 10:14 |
oSoMoN | nerochiaro, how would you verify that? | 10:15 |
popey | ogra_: someone in #ubuntu-irc - possible AlanBell | 10:15 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: don't we have all the translations in LP ? | 10:15 |
ogra_ | popey, thanks ! | 10:16 |
oSoMoN | nerochiaro, well, we do have a number of translations, but they represent only a subset of the languages of the world, and at any time someone can add a new language | 10:16 |
oSoMoN | nerochiaro, heck, I’m sure we can even translate into klingon or elvish, and who knows how elves represent the result of a find in page action? | 10:16 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: well, set a cut off date then. if in, say, one year, no one has bothered to translate it, then I win, otherwise you win | 10:17 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: beers at the next sprint | 10:17 |
oSoMoN | nerochiaro, man, you really like to argue for the sake of arguing (and of winning arguments). But beers at the next sprint is fine :) | 10:18 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: it is just a bet dude. i am fixing the code | 10:18 |
oSoMoN | nerochiaro, your chances of winning are very slim, I could be spending a large amount of time finding a language that proves you wrong and adding its translation to LP :) | 10:19 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: well then you have "free" beer :) | 10:20 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: and we have one more translation in LP and you learned some new language. win-win | 10:20 |
mivoligo | mzanetti: ping | 10:42 |
mzanetti | hey mivoligo | 10:43 |
mivoligo | mzanetti: about MvsM, when testing new levels, I'm changing level.json files in /data/lpbuild. Can I copy them to levelpack folder just like they are or the formatting is important? | 10:45 |
mzanetti | mivoligo, the formatting isn't important, however, the build script replaces sizes and coordinates depending on the generated base size | 10:46 |
mivoligo | mzanetti: so it will be important for towers.json | 10:47 |
mzanetti | yeah... I think all of them have some sizes in it... not exactly sure right now | 10:47 |
mivoligo | mzanetti: ok | 10:48 |
mivoligo | mzanetti: 3 levels to go BTW :) | 10:48 |
mzanetti | mivoligo, awesome :D | 10:49 |
mivoligo | mzanetti: yesterday I've spent about 4 hour on one level :D | 10:49 |
mivoligo | mzanetti: I hope it'll take as much time for players ;) | 10:50 |
mzanetti | yeah... I was sooo glad when I was done with it... | 10:50 |
mivoligo | seriously looking forward to that, my brain is melting :D | 10:51 |
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nerochiaro | oSoMoN: i18n fixed | 11:24 |
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Masternoob | hey guys, i just want initiate a talk about the calendar app | 11:29 |
Masternoob | currently it is in terrible shape and has nearly no dev activity...imho a celndar app is core functionality and i know 3 people that can't use the phone because of this... | 11:29 |
Masternoob | currently there are 30 New bugs and 87 Open bugs in the app...many of them should be really high priority since they make the app unusable.... | 11:31 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: and i am testing your delay fullscreen hint MR but I see no visual difference when I test it on the device on this test page: http://pearce.org.nz/fullscreen (and press the "toggle fullscreen" button") | 11:31 |
oSoMoN | nerochiaro, without my patch, are you not seeing the hint move upwards just after being shown, when the indicators bar is being hidden? | 11:32 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: yes, but i see a similar flickering with your patch too | 11:32 |
popey | Masternoob: many of the bugs in the calendar app are actually in the sync service underneath. Which specific ones are you talking about? | 11:33 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: oh, wait a second, it does not actually move. the flickering is below in the page | 11:33 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: sorry, it did confuse my eyes | 11:33 |
davmor2 | Masternoob: 88 is a really lower number of bugs for such a complex piece of software, take a look at unity 8 or settings app for something equally complex but those are used daily with no complaints. | 11:33 |
davmor2 | Masternoob: also without specific bugs it's really hard to have a conversation | 11:34 |
oSoMoN | nerochiaro, yeah, I’ve had to observe it from up close quite a few times to convince myself that it fixed the issue, there are many things happening on screen which divert the eye | 11:34 |
nerochiaro | oSoMoN: but it does not move, so i would say happroved | 11:35 |
oSoMoN | hawesome :) | 11:35 |
Masternoob | A example for a bug that makes the app unusable for me (and a few people i know) is 1309042, Bugs that make the app also unsusable or very annoying to use are 1438946 , 1437305 , 1311165 .... | 11:42 |
Masternoob | in my personal opinion these are also the bugs that block the app from being in the default image (there are maybe more, i didn't go through the whole list) | 11:43 |
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* ahoneybun 's app is at 830 downloads | 11:49 | |
popey | Masternoob: let me take a look | 11:49 |
ahoneybun | morning (from here) popey | 11:50 |
popey | yo | 11:50 |
mcphail | Masternoob: can you print those bugs one at a time so the bot can do the links? ie bug 1309042 | 11:51 |
ubot5 | bug 1309042 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Calendar sync only syncs the default calendar" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1309042 | 11:51 |
ahoneybun | how does my app look on a BQ device? | 11:51 |
Masternoob | bug 1438946 | 11:51 |
ubot5 | bug 1438946 in Ubuntu Calendar App "All day events are stored to previous day" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438946 | 11:51 |
Masternoob | bug 1437305 | 11:51 |
ubot5 | bug 1437305 in qtorganizer5-eds (Ubuntu) "Wrong date day icon display and one day before events day in month view" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1437305 | 11:51 |
Masternoob | bug 1311165 | 11:51 |
ubot5 | bug 1311165 in qtorganizer5-eds (Ubuntu) "timezone incorrectly modified when editing/creating google calendar event" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1311165 | 11:51 |
popey | not really necessary :) | 11:52 |
mcphail | popey: makes it much easier to access the links from elinks, trust me :) | 11:52 |
popey | meh | 11:52 |
Masternoob | i support the lazyness :D | 11:53 |
popey | so for bug 1309042 read comment #2 and #6. | 11:54 |
ubot5 | bug 1309042 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Calendar sync only syncs the default calendar" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1309042 | 11:54 |
popey | we can't fix that until we switch to a different calendar sync engine, which we are doing | 11:54 |
popey | for bug 1438946 - I asked for more detail and you only provided that 45 minutes ago. | 11:55 |
ubot5 | bug 1438946 in Ubuntu Calendar App "All day events are stored to previous day" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1438946 | 11:55 |
popey | Masternoob: but I'll take a look at them all. | 11:56 |
Masternoob | That is very nice of you, as for bug 1309042 ... shouldn't be the status "in progress " since it is worked on? Or is the change of the sync engine a completely unrelated process? | 11:57 |
ubot5 | bug 1309042 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Calendar sync only syncs the default calendar" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1309042 | 11:57 |
mcphail | My biggest problem with the calendar is when notifications are made even when reminders are switched off. My wife is getting rather annoyed by midnight chimes for all day events. I can't see a bug for that on the list. Is it fixed upstream? | 12:01 |
Masternoob | mcphail i think this is bug 1440111 | 12:02 |
ubot5 | bug 1440111 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Reminder notifications are not integrated into system notifications" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1440111 | 12:02 |
popey | thats by design. | 12:02 |
mcphail | Masternoob: that's not what happens to me. When I have events with "no reminder" set, I still get notifications | 12:03 |
Masternoob | oh...i see | 12:04 |
Masternoob | popey this is by design? really? Why should the user get notifications even when he created events with no notifications? | 12:05 |
popey | no, thats not what I said | 12:05 |
popey | it's by design that calendar / clock events are in the date/time indicator | 12:05 |
mcphail | my problem may have happened due to a bit of botched syncing with my google calendar. A lot of the events got duplicated (although they still didn;t have reminders set) | 12:06 |
* mcphail is going to experiment further before filing a bug | 12:06 | |
Masternoob | popey oh sry ..understood you wrong there | 12:06 |
popey | The big issue with calendar is limited development resources. | 12:07 |
popey | We have one guy working on it, and one guy working on the backend. | 12:07 |
popey | Would love to get more people involved. | 12:07 |
mcphail | the calendar is a whole let better than any I used on Android | 12:07 |
mcphail | *lot | 12:07 |
Masternoob | hmm maybe i should look into ubuntu app developement when i find the time | 12:08 |
* ahoneybun thinks you should | 12:08 | |
popey | that would be awesome :) | 12:08 |
popey | especially some of the smaller ones like the coloured dots one | 12:08 |
ahoneybun | everyone here is amazing help | 12:08 |
mivoligo | ahoneybun: what app you're need me to check the look on bq phone? :) | 12:09 |
ahoneybun | mivoligo: uBegginer and Gazeteer please :-) | 12:09 |
mivoligo | ahoneybun: ok | 12:09 |
* ahoneybun will be back | 12:10 | |
Masternoob | colored dots one? | 12:10 |
popey | bug 1454657 | 12:12 |
ubot5 | bug 1454657 in Ubuntu Calendar App ""Month" overview uses misleading colours for events" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1454657 | 12:12 |
mivoligo | ahoneybun: http://i.imgur.com/MQtxeXX.png | 12:14 |
Masternoob | yeah....that seems like a good place to start | 12:14 |
Masternoob | do i still need to use the custom ppa for the SDK or is it in the main repos with 15.04? | 12:16 |
nik90 | mivoligo: hey I tried your timer app. What API did you end up using? | 12:18 |
popey | Yes, always use the ppa Masternoob | 12:18 |
Masternoob | ok thx | 12:18 |
nik90 | mivoligo: I have had mixed results. Sometimes I see the timer in the indicator-datetime, and sometimes not. As a result the timer ends up ringing only sometimes when it is running in the background. | 12:18 |
popey | nik90: does podbird devel work on vivid? | 12:19 |
mivoligo | nik90: hi, I used Alarm | 12:19 |
nik90 | popey: it *only* works on vivid..it uses the new 15.04 APIs | 12:20 |
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popey | ahh | 12:20 |
popey | perfick | 12:20 |
* popey tests on mx4 | 12:20 | |
mivoligo | nik90: you're testing the Timer on stable or vivid? | 12:21 |
nik90 | mivoligo: hmm strange that it sometimes doesn't appear in the indicator. I will take a look at the code when I find some time. But really nice to see zeegaree's code being reused in Timer. | 12:21 |
nik90 | mivoligo: I am testing it on N4 Vivid | 12:21 |
mivoligo | nik90: might be something with that, I use stable only | 12:22 |
nik90 | ah..will give it a try on my BQ | 12:22 |
* nik90 thinks that the digital gods are against him...hasn't still received OTA 3.5 :P | 12:23 | |
popey | nik90: seems broken here. i can't download episodes. | 12:23 |
mivoligo | ahoneybun: http://i.imgur.com/KpgTOMs.png <- this one does not scroll, it's static and two bottom buttons are cut out :) | 12:23 |
popey | gah! found the swipe action | 12:24 |
nik90 | popey: ah yes I migrated to the swipe actions...I am planning to add a gesture tutorial similar to what we have in unity8 | 12:24 |
popey | i still see nothin in "What's new" | 12:25 |
popey | even after forcing download | 12:25 |
ogra_ | force harder ? | 12:25 |
popey | hmm, it's older than 7 days, i guess that's why | 12:25 |
nik90 | popey: What's new only shows episodes that have not been listened and not older than 7 days by you regardless of whether you downloaded it or not. | 12:25 |
popey | ok | 12:26 |
nik90 | mivoligo: you're right. I can only reproduce this bug on vivid. | 12:26 |
mivoligo | nik90: :D so vivid is buggy | 12:27 |
nik90 | mivoligo: also there are some minor issues in the UI (buttons overlapping and so on) that I will report bugs about. | 12:27 |
nik90 | mivoligo: :D | 12:27 |
mivoligo | nik90: yeah, UI was only good for bq | 12:27 |
nik90 | mivoligo: well atleast now I can time my pizza properly thanks to you :P..well one minor ui still lies in the BQ and other on n4 | 12:28 |
mivoligo | nik90: can you post a screenshot? | 12:28 |
nik90 | nvr mind..I cant reproduce the UI issue on BQ anymore...strange | 12:28 |
mivoligo | :D | 12:28 |
nik90 | the reset and save buttons in the main screen didnt hide fully..I saw its edges when they slided out...but as I said cant reproduce it anymore | 12:29 |
mivoligo | nik90: maybe animation didn't finished properly | 12:30 |
nik90 | mivoligo: yeah could be | 12:30 |
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dholbach | balloons, https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/1433525/+merge/258866 - now with extra testing goodness! | 12:33 |
kalikiana | hmmm is it normal to get prompted to format a memory card regardless of whether it's working? the same card is fine in other devices | 12:37 |
justCarakas | Nice, I asked my telecom provider if there would be a possibility to get their app on ubuntu | 13:06 |
justCarakas | and I got the response with the question if their developers could ask me some questions about devving for ubuntu :D | 13:07 |
nik90 | justCarakas: ooh nice :) | 13:09 |
Guest70727 | I'm working on a small qml app where it has some URLs that are used in XmlListModel's. Currently those url's are hard coded into the XmlListModel's, but I'd like to externalize them somehow. I was hoping the group her could offer some advice. What's the recommended way of doing this? | 13:22 |
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sverzegnassi | nik90: ping | 13:34 |
Guest70727 | speaking of nik90, I see in his flashback app, he created a "Backend" js object, where he keeps such properties and has accessor functions to read them. perhaps that's the way to go, although I'd still like to hear other ideas. | 13:40 |
dholbach | balloons, ok... the bug is really fixed now, with lots more tests now: https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/1433525/+merge/258866 | 13:50 |
dholbach | I'd appreciate if we could land this and release 0.2 | 13:50 |
dholbach | err, 0.3 :) | 13:51 |
dholbach | or whatever is next | 13:52 |
dholbach | yep, 0.3, I just re-milestoned a bunch of bugs | 13:58 |
Masternoob | nik90: since you are here, i really think bug 1454267 should be an option ;-) | 14:07 |
ubot5 | bug 1454267 in podbird "Allow users to set "read percentage"" [Medium,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1454267 | 14:07 |
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dholbach | balloons, davidcalle, mhall119: not sure if you have a bit of time today, but any reviews for https://code.launchpad.net/help-app/+activereviews would be much appreciated :) | 15:23 |
balloons | dholbach, I'm reviewing | 15:24 |
dholbach | balloons, <3 | 15:25 |
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Masternoob | where do i find good tutorials to start contributing to the coreapps? | 15:39 |
dholbach | balloons, more more more! | 15:52 |
dholbach | Masternoob, did you check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps and the pages linked from there? | 15:53 |
balloons | Masternoob, developer.ubuntu.com teaches you how to use the sdk and get started | 15:53 |
dholbach | Masternoob, which app are you interested in? | 15:53 |
balloons | then as dholbach said, the wiki can help tell you more about coreapps | 15:53 |
dholbach | did somebody introduce you to the Alan of Core Apps already? | 15:53 |
Masternoob | i would be interested in the calendar app but i need to gain some knowledge first :) | 15:54 |
dholbach | maybe there are some small, bitesize bugs you could start on? | 15:54 |
dholbach | and maybe just ask in here for help? | 15:54 |
dholbach | there's quite a bunch of knowledgeable and friendly people who should be able to help | 15:54 |
Masternoob | ok thank you, i will just try it and come here when i get stuck ;-) | 15:55 |
dholbach | excellent | 15:55 |
dholbach | if in doubt: just ask | 15:55 |
dholbach | either here or in #ubuntu-touch | 15:56 |
dholbach | it sometimes takes a a bit until somebody replies, but you basically have all the experts in here :) | 15:56 |
Masternoob | thanks | 15:57 |
dholbach | balloons, do you think you'll still have time to review https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/1433525/+merge/258866 - in that case I'd release 0.3 later on | 16:19 |
dholbach | ^ or anyone else? | 16:19 |
balloons | dholbach, I've been looking at it on and off | 16:22 |
dholbach | ok, cool :) | 16:22 |
balloons | lol, can't seem to finish it | 16:22 |
balloons | did you test on the device? | 16:23 |
dholbach | yes | 16:23 |
balloons | I think I'm otherwise happy with it | 16:23 |
balloons | my phone is dead atm though | 16:24 |
dholbach | <3 | 16:24 |
balloons | charging charging . . . | 16:24 |
dholbach | I'll do a test-run before releasing and ask somebody else to confirm before letting it into the wild | 16:24 |
balloons | it's interesting if it gets too low overnight it likes to not come on in the morning for some time unless I recharge it first | 16:24 |
balloons | sounds good | 16:24 |
dholbach | https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/help-app/misc-debug/+merge/259011 was basically just adding more debugging information | 16:25 |
balloons | ahh, so the only arg you pass for now is --inspector | 16:26 |
balloons | is there a need for me to pass something else? could you directly hand things off? | 16:26 |
dholbach | balloons, no, it'll just pass --inspector if you run "DEBUG=1 make launch" | 16:27 |
balloons | dholbach, right. .But since you added the feature to pass things; is there a reason I might want to pass anything else? | 16:36 |
dholbach | balloons, hum, I'm not quite sure I'm following | 16:38 |
dholbach | "make launch" will just launch the phone app | 16:38 |
dholbach | that's all it ever did | 16:39 |
dholbach | you mean adding another argument to ubuntu-html5-app-launcher? | 16:39 |
dholbach | I don't know if it comes with other options | 16:39 |
dholbach | it doesn't have a man page and no -h/--help :-) | 16:40 |
balloons | dholbach, ok.. that more or less answers the question | 16:43 |
dholbach | :) | 16:43 |
dholbach | balloons, popey, mhall119: does anyone of you have time to do a quick sanity check on https://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/tmp/help.ubuntucoredev_0.3_all.click? most notable change should be that links (like on the get in touch page) open in a separate browser | 17:41 |
dholbach | (it works for me, just tested it) | 17:46 |
dholbach | balloons, popey: if you can do a release, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11116751/ could be a small changelog for 0.3 | 17:47 |
dholbach | <3 | 17:47 |
balloons | dholbach, ohh excellent. sounds good | 17:49 |
dholbach | thanks balloons! | 17:49 |
* balloons can't seem to get the click now | 17:52 | |
dholbach | bizarre | 17:54 |
dholbach | hang on | 17:54 |
dholbach | balloons, try http instead of https | 17:54 |
balloons | got it.. | 17:54 |
balloons | and pushed | 17:55 |
dholbach | thanks a lot balloons! | 17:55 |
balloons | yw | 17:55 |
balloons | enjoy your evening and ancension day! | 17:55 |
dholbach | will do! | 17:56 |
dholbach | big hugs! | 17:56 |
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mcphail | I'm probably being thick, but how do I create a project in launchpad? | 18:09 |
mcphail | aah - no worries: just saw you have to do it from the home page rather than user page. Whoops! | 18:10 |
mcphail | Is anyone from the UCS team available? | 18:27 |
beuno | mcphail, what's the USC team? | 18:28 |
mcphail | ubuntu component store | 18:28 |
beuno | ah | 18:29 |
* beuno sits back down and stays quiet | 18:29 | |
mcphail | usually nik90 and aquaris | 18:29 |
davmor2 | popey: re the terminal app I saw the uos thing on it last night. The button for OSK can you make it more transparent when there is a keyboard attached? That way the end user on a desktop gets more screen estate but still keeps the button if they want to use the osk? | 18:48 |
davmor2 | just a thought | 18:48 |
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ahoneybun | happy birthday ahayzen!!!! | 20:39 |
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