| rsully | sarnold I kind of would have expected some type of generic extra package that installed the right one indirectly based on current kernel | 00:09 |
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| sarnold | rsully: yeah, same here. my machine has it installed because I have linux-signed-image-3.13.0-46-generic installed, but I don't know what installed -that- package.. | 00:10 |
| rsully | sarnold are you running 14.04.2? | 00:24 |
| sarnold | rsully: no, original 14.04 | 00:25 |
| Patrickdk | sarnold, why not centos? | 00:26 |
| rsully | it looks like both linux-generic and linux-generic-lts-trusty would install the extras package, but would also bump me from 3.13.0-46 to 3.13.0-52 - not sure if that matters | 00:26 |
| sarnold | Patrickdk: hehe | 00:26 |
| sarnold | rsully: it'd probably be for the best, I just haven't rebooted yet.. | 00:27 |
| rsully | "Anyone wishing to opt into the hardware enablement stack for Trusty may do so by running following command which will install the linux-generic-lts-utopic " | 00:29 |
| rsully | should that say -lts-trusty? | 00:29 |
| sarnold | rsully: the HWE stack comes from utopic or vivid or wily or whatever comes after wily.. | 00:29 |
| sarnold | rsully: note that the HWE stacks EOL _before_ the original 14.04 stack -- so if you opt into them today, it'll mean dealing with that again in another year or so.. | 00:30 |
| sarnold | rsully: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support | 00:31 |
| rsully | I'm just trying to understand what it means if I were to install linux-generic* to get the extra package | 00:31 |
| Patrickdk | heh? | 00:31 |
| sarnold | rsully: the -52 is just a regular security/reliability update | 00:31 |
| Patrickdk | oh, utopic | 00:31 |
| Patrickdk | I was going say, I was already running it on my laptop | 00:31 |
| Patrickdk | wifi works better :) | 00:31 |
| rsully | sarnold so if I don't want to keep dealing with updating, should I really be installing 14.04.1 instead of 14.04.2? | 00:33 |
| Patrickdk | wait, utopic is old | 00:33 |
| Patrickdk | I'm running vivid enablement I believe | 00:33 |
| Patrickdk | you can install either for updates | 00:34 |
| sarnold | rsully: yeah, I think so; unless you've got a specific reason to install 14.04.2 | 00:34 |
| Patrickdk | but 14.04.1 will default to trust kernel | 00:34 |
| Patrickdk | you can downgrade 14.04.2 to trusty if you want, just extra work | 00:34 |
| rsully | nah this box is so simple its easier to spin up a new VM and reprovision | 00:34 |
| rsully | sarnold no no reason to be on 14.04.2, I just figured it was 14.04 with some updates already applied or something - really had no idea the implications | 00:35 |
| Patrickdk | ya, this started with 12.04 | 00:35 |
| Patrickdk | it's really more for desktops than server | 00:36 |
| sarnold | rsully: completely understood :) aside from kernel / X11 / handful of other small things it really is about the same.. | 00:36 |
| rsully | whats the difference between 14.04.0 and 14.04.1? | 00:36 |
| Patrickdk | just updates | 00:36 |
| Patrickdk | fixes and stuff | 00:36 |
| rsully | they're both 3.13 and supported to the same time period, but then 14.04.2 drops off support way earlier | 00:36 |
| sarnold | rsully: that one is just updates; the .1 is when 12.04 LTS users were offered to upgrade automatically | 00:36 |
| rsully | ah ok | 00:36 |
| sarnold | it represented a point of "all the obvious things have been fixed by now" :) | 00:37 |
| rsully | well one reason I am on 14.04.2 is apparently joyent hasn't published 14.04.1 images for smartos | 00:42 |
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| rsully | I've been getting this today too | 01:03 |
| rsully | W: Failed to fetch http://joyent.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-en Hash Sum mismatch | 01:03 |
| sarnold | rsully: I think it'd be fastest to file a support ticket with joyent for that one -- the mirror admins in #ubuntu-mirror (or #ubuntu-mirrors?) _might_ be able to kick off a re-sync but joyent folks might be more responsive | 01:04 |
| Patrickdk | too bad the only joyant people I know are the wrong ones to ask | 01:06 |
| sarnold | same here :) | 01:07 |
| rsully | I dropped it into #smartos for time being | 01:08 |
| rsully | ok so I did another fresh install of 14.04.2 (and now apt-get updated/upgraded it) | 01:11 |
| rsully | out of the box without any changes this is the kernel situation http://pastie.org/pastes/10185640/text?key=na44gckmawnuajs2rdhna | 01:11 |
| rsully | (well changes not including apt upgrading) | 01:11 |
| sarnold | rsully: I wonder if that's mislabelled; the handy infographic suggests that 3.13 is the original 14.04.0 and 14.04.1 kernel: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support | 01:13 |
| rsully | I'm just not sure which package I should be installing to get the 'extra' kernel package. linux-generic* packages look like they would all install it. I'm not sure if I should be installing a -lts-* version or not, or if there is another package altogether I should be looking for | 01:13 |
| Patrickdk | it is | 01:14 |
| Patrickdk | you don't need extra | 01:14 |
| Patrickdk | unless you using 3.16 or 3.18 kernel | 01:14 |
| sarnold | Patrickdk: he wants extra because the nls_utf8 kernel module is in the -extra package | 01:15 |
| rsully | Sorry, what specifically is mislabelled? | 01:15 |
| Patrickdk | oh ah | 01:15 |
| Patrickdk | apt-get install linux-image-extra-virtual | 01:15 |
| sarnold | rsully: I'm curious if the smartos "deploy ubuntu 14.04.2" is mislabelled; perhaps it should read "ubuntu 14.04.1"? | 01:15 |
| sarnold | rsully: .. but then my laptop shows 14.04.2 for lsb_release -a ... | 01:16 |
| Patrickdk | sarnold, no, then it would have had an older kernel | 01:16 |
| sarnold | .. even though I'm using the original 3.13 kernel too. | 01:16 |
| Patrickdk | likely what it is, is a netboot isntaller? | 01:16 |
| rsully | Yeah, my lsb_release shows 14.04.2 | 01:16 |
| Patrickdk | or could be updates are run on install | 01:16 |
| rsully | Patrickdk the image I'm using is a joyent supplied ubuntu certified image for smartos | 01:17 |
| Patrickdk | yes, I'm not sure how they do their images | 01:17 |
| Patrickdk | could be clones of a base install | 01:17 |
| Patrickdk | but it could be any 14.04 image, and then updates added to make it 14.04.2 | 01:17 |
| sarnold | that's common for cloudy things | 01:17 |
| Patrickdk | doesn't have to be a 14.04.2 install iso | 01:17 |
| rsully | I assume Cannonical has a say since they're certified images | 01:17 |
| rsully | Patrickdk so is linux-image-extra-virtual the correct package to use? What does it mean by 'transitional package' | 01:18 |
| Patrickdk | odd | 01:23 |
| Patrickdk | someone broke it? | 01:24 |
| Patrickdk | oh, it is cause of the virtual | 01:25 |
| Patrickdk | that is what is screwing it | 01:25 |
| Patrickdk | virtual is transitional also | 01:25 |
| Patrickdk | ubuntu switched to only generic | 01:25 |
| Patrickdk | so linux-generic would be the totally correct way now | 01:25 |
| Patrickdk | and remove linux-virtual | 01:25 |
| Patrickdk | but they get the same result these days | 01:25 |
| Patrickdk | apt-get install linux-generic | 01:26 |
| rsully | Then reboot and remove linux-virtual? | 01:27 |
| Patrickdk | you don't need to remove it, but you can :) | 01:28 |
| Patrickdk | and then apt-get autoremove to let it clean up the rest | 01:28 |
| rsully | Is a reboot necessary? | 01:30 |
| Patrickdk | no | 01:30 |
| Patrickdk | but you should, to update to the newest kernel | 01:30 |
| Patrickdk | what is it 48 or 49 currently | 01:31 |
| rsully | 52 | 01:31 |
| Patrickdk | ah | 01:31 |
| rsully | Yep, just wanted to make sure I could script this all without a reboot in the middle | 01:31 |
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| Voyage | how to send email from linux to an external email like gmail etc? | 05:11 |
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| abhishek | hello I want to configure a centralized log management server. I have around 50 server(multiple linux versions) installed. I want to know a solution that our developer can access each server logs | 06:27 |
| abhishek | how can i manage jboss logs in rsyslog. is it posssible | 07:15 |
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| devster31 | if I wanted to compress images with the small possible size what should I use? | 07:42 |
| devster31 | in an archive, not the actual file | 07:43 |
| davegarath | devster31: tar support gzip and bzip2. tar jcf archive.tar.bz2 youimages*. but if the original images are in a compressed format you will not have sensible saving. | 07:51 |
| Siilwyn | devster31, although not the smallest size I would go for a simple .zip archive if you make it available for download for others. | 07:52 |
| devster31 | I don't need it to be public, it's simple data migration, I just wanted the smallest size algorythm, and bzip2 is good enough | 07:54 |
| Siilwyn | Alright in that case go ahead and use bzip2. (= | 07:55 |
| devster31 | hi, how would I go about importing a table from a file.sql into an existing database? i want to import eg table1 from backup.sql into table2 from the actual database | 09:01 |
| Siilwyn | devster31, #sql or #mysql could be a better place to ask. | 09:03 |
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| jcastro | roaksoax, maas tagged questions on askubuntu need love if you guys have some time. | 14:26 |
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| roaksoax | jcastro: /win 13 | 14:32 |
| roaksoax | jcastro: err | 14:32 |
| roaksoax | jcastro: i'll see if anyone is not running around fixing last issues to get 1.8 out of the door | 14:32 |
| jcastro | yeah I just wanted to get it on your radar | 14:33 |
| jcastro | the amount of incoming questions has increased a great deal, which is nice | 14:33 |
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| squisher | rbasak, jamespage, has either of you tested the 1.0.8 code? I don't have any issues. I think it'd be good to upload that soon - what distribution do I put into the changelog? | 15:52 |
| rbasak | kickinz1: ^^ | 15:52 |
| rbasak | I've not looked. | 15:52 |
| rbasak | Put unstable in the changelog I think. | 15:53 |
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| jamespage | squisher, context? | 15:53 |
| rbasak | jamespage: bcache-tools | 15:53 |
| squisher | jamespage, bcache-tools | 15:53 |
| jamespage | ah - sorry | 15:53 |
| squisher | no worries | 15:53 |
| rbasak | squisher: do we have a well-defined upstream repository/release tags now? | 15:55 |
| squisher | afaik yes, but then again there has been so little changes | 15:56 |
| rbasak | squisher: can we send 0001-Clean-should-remove-bcache-register.patch there? | 15:57 |
| squisher | rbasak, I already did, but no response so far | 15:57 |
| rbasak | squisher: oh OK, thanks. Do you know about dep3? | 15:57 |
| rbasak | We can track upstream status in the quilt patches. | 15:57 |
| squisher | no, but sounds interesting | 15:57 |
| rbasak | squisher: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ | 15:58 |
| rbasak | squisher: it's just a metadata format so we can see if a patch has been sent upstream etc. | 15:58 |
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| squisher | rbasak, ok, I'll add that | 16:01 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 16:02 |
| squisher | rbasak, pushed. Now I only have to update debian/watch to point to http://evilpiepirate.org/git/bcache-tools.git instead of github. I can't find a good guide for (gitorious|gitweb) though, any ideas? | 16:35 |
| rbasak | squisher: I'm not aware of one, sorry. | 16:42 |
| rbasak | squisher: https://wiki.debian.org/debian/watch doesn't seem to list those | 16:43 |
| rbasak | But that page does have some other resources listed that might help | 16:43 |
| squisher | yeah, I was just trying to avoid working my way through that regex mess | 16:44 |
| squisher | seems like a decent git support for uscan would be nice, but this bug hasn't been closed yet: , part of the bcache hybrid storage project (features, debian packaging) | 16:45 |
| squisher | oops: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=663357 | 16:45 |
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| Fishscene | Greetings. I'm trying to set up vlc on my server, but I'll only be using the "cvlc" command as there is no GUI on the server. Should I just install "vlc"? or will that also install a GUI on my server? | 18:05 |
| jrwren | Fishscene: there is a package: vlc-nox which may be what you want. | 18:07 |
| Fishscene | jrwren. Awesome! That looks to be exactly what I'm looking for. Thanks! | 18:08 |
| robertj | so for netbooting, where should I get my syslinux.0 from? build it from src? | 18:32 |
| sarthor | /j #java | 18:57 |
| pmatulis | robertj: syslinux package? | 20:40 |
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| _2_Whenureachme3 | hey | 20:46 |
| ay_caramba | Hi everyone, trying to get a munin plugin going but the author says it requires "logsince" to parse logs but apt-get install logsince comes back with not found, any idea what this package might be known under? | 20:50 |
| pmatulis | ay_caramba: i don't think it is available in a package | 20:55 |
| ay_caramba | pmatulis: hmm ok, yeah I tried searching for it online but can't even find the source | 20:57 |
| pmatulis | ay_caramba: where do you see reference to logsince? | 20:57 |
| ay_caramba | pmatulis: https://github.com/himyouten/munin-nginx_response | 20:57 |
| pmatulis | ok | 20:58 |
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