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BlubberbopWhere are all the kubuntu updates?? for all the previous releases, in the weeks following the release, I would receive loads of updates.. after 3 weeks of horror with 15.04 I have received upgrades 3 times.. the last two were 3 libraries from some obscure package that I didn;'t recognize, and then google chrome..  15.04 has so far been a horror release, bugwise.. Where are the updates that makes this a usable system?00:18
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BomberNote-to-self: when upgrading linux apps/environment, always check if people belive it's stable enough01:39
BomberT_T01:39
dkm_Hello - I'm in dire need of technical assistance installing kubuntu. Anybody think they might want to tackle this one before I start posting the specifics of the issue? It's possibly a fairly lengthy investigation, so - ya know... :P02:11
GroklingHi - I've got two nvidia video cards, four screens and a whole lot of wasted time. Then I installed kubuntu, and all four of my screens came to life. Well done to whoever set that up - no other distro I've tried has managed to pull that trick off out of the box..02:43
GroklingI have an issue now though, that I have no visible mouse cursor/pointer. It works, I just can't see it.02:44
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GroklingCan anyone help me with an invisible mouse pointer? I've tried changing the cursor theme, but it didn't help. The mouse works, just there's no pointer, so it's a lot of guessing..04:59
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jdfantasticHi ya! Is the right place to ask questions regarding problems with Kubuntu?06:07
jdfantasticEh, got some serious lag here... Can I ask a Kubuntu related question?06:09
hyper_chjdfantastic: didn't you just do that?=06:11
Graf_Westerholt!ask | jdfantastic06:11
ubottujdfantastic: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience06:11
jdfantasticI'm running 15.04, and am having problem completing an update.  It seems that I am getting stuck at various stages  while trying to download some fonts. I have a screen posted at http://imgur.com/SvG5oj3 with the window that prompts for the update, and the resultant terminal window that invariably fails, though at different stages of progress each time. Unfortunately, each time I try to rerun the update, it starts fresh from the beginning.  I was06:17
jdfantasticwondering if there was a way to accomplish this update from the terminal, so at least I could download some of these  fonts/files/packages, and once successful, move onto downloading/installing the next set.  If that's not clear, I'll be happy to try an rephrase.06:17
SilmarilionHey guys the apt is stuck while updating flash plugin: flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_20150512.1.orig.tar.gz06:22
hyper_chwhat is the flash plugin still needed for?06:23
hyper_chjdfantastic: try again, as you can see there was a hash sum mismatch06:23
jdfantasticI was worried someone would say that :P06:23
Silmariliondon't really know.. But today an update come up06:24
jdfantasticTime to get back to work- thanks for taking a look!06:25
hyper_chSilmarilion: run from the cli:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade06:25
Silmarilionthats when it got stuck06:25
Silmariliondoing the upgrade..06:25
hyper_chthen pastebin more than just that one line06:26
SilmarilionSo here it is: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7e89e4242113e687853806:28
SilmarilionI had to do reconfigure because muon update manager got stuck so I had to kill the process.06:29
SilmarilionAnd if I try to remove the package the installation of the same begins and gots stuck, probably  because the previous wasn't finished06:32
hyper_chthis still isn't the whole output06:33
Silmarilionthats the whole output from the termina06:35
hyper_chsudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer06:40
Silmarilionyea I made it..06:41
hyper_ch?06:42
SilmarilionI did some stuff, which remove the package and whole bunch of things :D now I am afraid to do a restart :D06:44
hyper_chpastebin the output06:46
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ShishKababSometimes my cursor starts jumping and clicking around randomly on Kubuntu 15.04 and it is not relating to typing since it also happens while just using the trackpad.08:56
ShishKababWhen I disable and re enable the trackpad it stops for a while, which leads me to think that this could be a software problem instead of a hardware problem. How could I find out the root of the problem?08:57
fuygawkesHey guys, I got a quick one. I upgraded to 15.04 and it seems that I cannot add any "app shortcuts" on my panel, since KDE no longer gives me an option to add one there. Is this a general case or is it just me? Thanx :)09:10
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GroklingCan anyone help me with an invisible mouse pointer? I've tried changing the cursor theme, but it didn't help. The mouse works, just there's no pointer, so it's a lot of guessing..10:06
Grokling15.04, two NVIDIA GT218s, Nouveau driver.10:07
fuygawkes@Grokling have you tried the nvidia drivers?10:51
Groklingfuygawkes, yes, but then xrandr doesn't play - it only picks up one GPU, which means I need to use xinerama, and that breaks things.10:58
fuygawkes:/11:01
fuygawkesAfter many glitches I have stumbled upon I guess that plasma 5 is not yet ready11:02
GroklingIt's only a mouse cursor..  sooo close to just working. To make matters worse, the first time I installed kubuntu, I had a mouse cursor and everything..  then I had to go and try the NVIDIA drivers, and that was the end of that!11:03
fuygawkesfor what is worth, I tried both nouveau and nvidia drivers and everything (kinda) worked, but I have only one gpu11:04
GroklingI was really excited when both GPUs and all four screens worked straight out of the box. That has NEVER happened for me before.11:06
fuygawkesHave you posted on the forums?11:06
GroklingI just tried disabling mouse acceleration via xorg.conf.d, and that somehow prevented the desktop loading at all (threw me back to the login screen)11:06
Groklingfuygawkes, no, which one do you recommend?11:07
GroklingI have an otherwise fully functioning system.11:07
fuygawkesat first I would post in kubuntuforums11:07
fuygawkesif it is kde related, it's a good place to start11:09
fuygawkesalso, this happens with every cursor theme you have tried??11:09
Groklingyes - I tried changing themes, and it didn't make any difference.11:10
fuygawkeshave you tried booting with upstart instead of systemd?11:15
fuygawkesi don't know if that would make a difference, i'm just shooting in the dark11:16
fuygawkesbut it might be that systemd calls for processes in a different way that upstart does, so maybe..11:16
fuygawkesI'm facing a problem myself so if anyone can answer this it'd be nice11:18
fuygawkesI cannot seem to pin applications on my panel. Is this a default in plasma 5 or is it just me?11:18
yopeHi all, I just upgraded to vivid and noticed our beloved kdm is no more...11:19
yopeIs there any alternative that works well with LDAP setups with massive amounts of users?11:20
yopeSDDM doen't seem quite up to the task :-(11:20
Groklingfuygawkes, I didn't know you could choose upstart.. I'll post on the forum and see what comes of that.11:27
fuygawkesGrokling I don't know if a fresh install jas both, but you can install it and use it interchangeably11:32
cyberhi11:54
freakdaddyHas anyone got dropbox to work with 15.04?  I've tried the version from Muon and the dropbox website.  When I run dropboxd I get the message... !! (Qt:Fatal) Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x50401) with this library (version 0x50302)  Aborted (core dumped)   Any help is appreciated!12:37
BluesKajHiyas all12:49
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rosco_yI'm trying to copy a directory branch from one partition to another, and I don't have permission to copy some of it (my own work).  I tried chmod 777 -R <folder>, but I'm still having trouble.  How do I fix this?13:05
rosco_yThis is on my home pc13:05
rosco_yI'm booted to the 15.04 cd, wanting to overwrite my 14.04 with the new os13:06
rosco_yDoes anyone disagree that it's somehow "cleaner" to overwrite with a new install, than it is to upgrade?13:06
rosco_yI suppose I could upgrade, and if I don't like that, then install new--I'd get to the same place.13:07
rosco_yThat's what I'll do.  I think I won't lose my data files that way.13:08
rosco_yThanks rosco_y, It's great talking to myself!13:08
rosco_ysee you around!13:08
BluesKajrobotdevil, overwrting is not the proper method to install an OS, and yo're skipping version so you''ll surely have a broken system if you can even fnish13:11
BluesKajoops sorry robotdevil, wrong nick13:12
ephedrahow to disable that stupid popup telling me that flash needs to be installed (kubuntu 15.04)?14:37
yahyaadoes anyone know how to set individual widgets for individual desktops???15:08
yahyaafor kubuntu 15.0415:09
vankataHello i install clean kubuntu 15.04 but when type credentials for login. nothing happens. Status bar for loading load on 2/3 and freeze15:52
mkanyicyhi guys, im using kubuntu 15.04 and im very impressed by it, but now i rebooted today and the desktop is pitch black, there is no panel nothing16:49
mkanyicyi can launch windows via ALT+F2 but the desktop is just pitch black16:50
mparillo_I have heard two suggestions. If you have used sudo instead of kdesudo to launch graphical programs, you may need to change some ownerships. Second, I have heard clearing your cache (without plasma up).16:57
BluesKajmparillo, the answeryou heard to your first is correct afaik17:10
mac^^^I am thinking of switching from fedora to kbuntu. F22 beta with plasma 5 has a lot of kde related bugs such as not saving session data (say I make a lot of config changes on the desktop) logout/login and my changes are not there! Does kubuntu plasma 5 have this same issue?18:05
BluesKajmac^^^, suggest you install plasma 5.3 , it's available for Kubuntu 15.04 in a ppa18:08
BluesKajif it's not available for fedora18:09
mac^^^BluesKaj: i was finding a lot of "minor" bugs such as "track mouse" not working, things along that nature .... also I was having issues with perl-tk not being to change font size whereas I COULD do it on prior plasma 518:09
BluesKajeach OS has it's quirks when it comes to plsama 5 ...I had a few with plasma 5.2 , but a lot of them disappeared after installing plasma 5.3 on kubuntu18:12
mac^^^does kunbuntu with 5.3 show the mouse cursor changing to arrows when placed on edge of window? it did for me in prior plasma 5 but not with plasma 5.3 in fedora 2218:14
BluesKajmac^^^, yes18:16
mac^^^what about changes to sessions being saved? that was extremely frustrating losing all your settings you had carfully made simply because you logged out (or rebooted for that matter)18:18
BluesKajmac^^^, not sure, I don't normally save sessions18:19
mac^^^BluesKaj: maybe i'm using wrong terminology ..... what I mean was I login, change to "folder view", click Ok, it goes to "folder view", logout, login and it is NOT in "folder view" (i.e. my changes were not saved) .... is that called "session" I should start using correct terms18:20
BluesKajmac^^^, sorry i don't use folderview, but I can say that if I leave a session with open applications they do relaunch after a reboot18:23
mac^^^BluesKaj:  ok, say you moved a desktop icon (shortcut?) on your desktop from where it was to where you wanted it ..... would it be in its NEW location after a reboot or logout/login?18:24
mac^^^thats what I'm getting at18:24
BluesKajmac^^^,yes18:26
mac^^^you are making me think kbuntu has done a better job at putting in plasma 5 than fedora 2218:29
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BluesKajmac^^^, maybe ..It's hard to know, i haven't tried fedora in a while and I don't know of anyone who's run both with plasma 518:31
* keithzg still has PTSD from RPM-hell, thus avoids Fedora like the plague :P18:41
mac^^^keithzg: yum was supposed to solve the rpm hell problem18:42
mac^^^they use dnf now instead of yum in fedora 2218:42
keithzgmac^^^: I remember the problems being *with* Yum. I'd run "yum update" and there'd be, say, three packages which had cyclical dependencies on eachother but each were currently at too low of a version for the newer versions that each of their respective newer versions relied on, and somehow Yum couldn't work this out...18:44
keithzgThat was when I retreated back to debian-based distros :P18:44
mac^^^only reason I use fedora is because my employer used redhat enterprise18:45
keithzgI've had some *seriously* messed up systems (I forget whether it was entirely my own fault or not, but accidentally uninstalled glibc back in Warty Warthog!) but it's always been easily fixable.18:45
keithzgYeah, fair enough. Luckily most of the servers I've inherited at my work have been Ubuntu, so deb-based is mostly teh law of the land, with the exception of a CentOS server for mail and a . . . well, the router is best not spoken of.18:46
keithzgI've tried desperately to replace it but somehow it was set up in such a way that everything in the office relies on it in arcane, black-magic ways that I find nearly impossible to untangle, and my predecessor's notes were basically "¯\_(ツ)_/¯"18:47
BluesKaji like the new apt install/remove etc commands, showing a progress bar of sorts in the cli18:48
keithzgOooh, I didn't notice that yet (at work I'm sticking to the LTS), that made it into 15.04 I take it?18:50
mparilloThe new apt with the progess bar was in 14.10 for sure.18:51
* keithzg feels extremely oblivious now18:51
DarthFrogOne of the things I most dislike about Kubuntu 15.04 is that I can no longer attach windows together as tabs.  I loved that feature in earlier versions of Plasma.18:55
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rattkingDarthFrog: I asked about that in #kde yesterday and someone told me that plasma 5 still supports it but the new window decorations do not18:57
DarthFrograttking: Thaniks.  Can we dispose of the new window decorations, do you know?18:58
rattkingI didnt get an answer if thats coming or not18:58
rattkingyeah you can change it18:58
DarthFrogOh good.  I don't give a rat's nether regions about theming.18:59
rattkingdang I dont see the option in plastik either19:00
DarthFrogNeither do I.19:00
mac^^^I do 90% of my work in konsole (and browser and email and irc)19:00
DarthFrogFor konsole, I use yakuake.19:00
rattkingkonsole is my fav. terminal emulator by far19:01
mac^^^i make use of profiles in konsole19:01
DarthFrogYakuake is a drop-down version of konsole.  Hit F12 and there's your konsole.19:01
rattkingyeah I dont like when it disappears :)19:02
mac^^^DarthFrog: i have script which use xdotool to put my konsoles where I want them  on the screen, which monitor and which virtual desk19:02
rattkingawesome I am going to look into that19:03
keithzgrattking: Drat, that's not supported by the new decorations? Any word then on whether it will be and just hasn't been implemented yet, or?19:16
* keithzg uses that all the time at work; guess that's another reason to stay on the LTS for production systems for now...19:16
DarthFrogkeithzg: I've just installed some other window decorations and the option for attaching as a tab isn't there.19:18
kolpanyone know what happened to screensaver settings in 15.04???19:18
keithzgDarthFrog: I think even the older themes might still be using the new method of drawing decorations? I'm very sketchy on the technical details, gotta admit. Just asked in #kde if reimplementing this is in the cards.19:20
DarthFrograttking:  In System Settings/Window Behaviour, there's a "Window Tabbing" config.  But it's useless.19:20
DarthFrogkeithzg: A consumation, devoutly to be wished.19:21
keithzgmac^^^: Yeah, I can't imagine living without Yakuake. Probably tied with my browser as my most-used application.19:22
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soapbox3000hello there19:58
soapbox3000i need some assistance with enabling SSH on kubuntu 15.0419:59
soapbox3000anyone?20:00
BlaXpirithello.20:29
BlaXpiritI upgraded my kubuntu 15.04 system using  ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports20:30
BlaXpiritkwin_x11  crashes shortly after plasma panels show20:30
BlaXpiritthis is after a reinstall20:31
BlaXpiritI think I may have upgraded without backports  on the previous installation, with the same result20:31
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wldcordeiro_How can I combine partitions on a drive in KDE? I have a drive that I used to have split 50/50 for linux and windows but I reformat the windows side to ext4 but I want it to be combined with the linux partition.23:05
bpromptwldcordeiro_:    run the kde partition manager, delete the windows partition, it'd be left as "free space", then resize the linux partition23:35

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