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tbrhmmm 2001:6b0:e:2018::1337 as used by releases.ubuntu.com seems down06:22
tvosso/06:35
tbrgood moaning tvoss07:22
tvosso/07:22
tvossI'm not really around :)07:23
* tbr is closer to understanding the mechanics of UEFI boot of snappy now...07:23
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Golf Day! 😃08:34
svijcan anyone give me a hint, why snappy doesn't want to boot from my beaglebone black? When powering on there are only USER LEDS 0-2 contantly lighting up and nothing happens. I've tried two different sd cards, other images (like a „normal“ ubuntu 14.04.2 image) do boot normally… any ideas?09:33
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ogra_svij, did you try holding donw the button ?09:36
ogra_(S2 i thinnk)09:36
svijogra_: yeah, than there a no lights and nothing happens (well no lights except the power  led)09:37
ogra_well, do you have a serial cable ?09:38
svijno I don't09:39
svij~20$ oO09:41
ogra_woaah, where do you look ?09:41
ogra_should be below 10€ on amazon09:42
svijoh09:42
svijI checked this page: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial09:42
* ogra_ currently uses http://www.amazon.de/SainSmart-Serial-Debug-Console-Raspberry/dp/B00KVUSI30/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417690697&sr=8-1&keywords=FTDI+Cable+3.309:42
ogra_sadly sold out, i found that to be most compatible09:42
svijany suggestions for another one?09:43
ogra_any 3.3V FPGA should do ... make sure to get the four loose cable ends, not a 4 prong plug09:44
ogra_that way you can use it on other boards too in case they need a different order for the plug09:44
beowulfChipaca: any recommendations on where to buy a bbb in uk?09:45
Chipacabeowulf: amazon09:46
svijogra_: this one? http://www.amazon.de/Neuftech-PL2303HX-Konverter-Converter-Adapter/dp/B00R76SCJ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431596874&sr=8-1&keywords=USB+to+TTL+Serial+Cable09:49
beowulfChipaca: 50 snoops, a raspberry pi 2 is 30... any reason to go for one over the other?09:49
Chipacabeowulf: what's "50 snoops"?09:50
ogra_svij, looks good .... (dont use the red one (VCC) on the beagle ;) you only need RX,TX and GND)09:50
beowulfChipaca: you know, snoops09:51
svijogra_: alright, I'm not really familiar this stuff. Ordered and thanks. :)09:52
Chipacabeowulf: mmm... nope, no idea :) but the bbbs are all pretty much the same afaict. Also don't forget a usb serial thingie09:52
ogra_svij, great, serial cables are kind of an essential tool when working with arm boards :)09:56
svijogra_: ok! :)09:59
* svij now tries to build a snappy image for a raspi 2…09:59
tbrogra_: indeed they are #essentialtools10:02
ogra_:)10:03
Chipaca@reviewlist10:11
nothalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-core-launcher/unshare/+merge/258367 | Approve: 1, Needs Fixing: 1 (7 days old)10:11
nothalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/webdm/post-css-bem-lint/+merge/258696 | No reviews (5 days old)10:11
nothalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/webdm/queryPackageNames/+merge/258640 | No reviews (5 days old)10:11
nothalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/snappy/docs-tidy-up-package-metadata/+merge/259050 | No reviews (less than a day old)10:11
nothalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/snappy/fix-typos-in-config-docs/+merge/259027 | No reviews (less than a day old)10:11
Chipacawhy isn't there a markdown linter that doesn't depend on node?10:13
beowulfChipaca: huh?10:13
Chipacabeowulf: a markdown linter? a thing that told us when we weren't following some kind of 'markdown best practices' or whatever (basically, that it would work on most markdown flavours)10:15
beowulfChipaca: ah, but markdown is many different things10:16
beowulfa django markdown linter would be required here, but that's not the same as a github markdown linter, i guess10:16
Chipacabeowulf: AIUI our markdown goes to three different places: django, github, and pandoc10:17
beowulfi think the docs would be helped with a proper nav to the side, instead of a top breadcrumb style nav10:17
beowulfalso, <tt> and <code> need clearer styling10:18
beowulfChipaca: github, really? editing would have been so much easier there...10:18
Chipacabeowulf: i think it's only sergiusens that cares about that one, for now :) although i hear mterry is also a fan10:19
beowulfChipaca: but then, the markdown for developer.u.c needs to be django flavour, unless we change that10:19
Chipacadholbach was usig pandoc for ... dunno where, at this stage :)10:19
beowulfalso the docs could consider linking to snappy-examples where relevant, like for snappy config we have two examples that would help i think10:21
* beowulf is throwing words to the void, probably10:21
Chipacabeowulf: linked, or include?10:22
beowulfChipaca: include && link10:22
beowulfChipaca: i tried to find the source of https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/appliance-builder-guide-webcam/ but failed, but it's missing some <p>'s10:27
Chipacabeowulf: poke the holbach10:27
Chipacabeowulf: (gently)10:27
Chipaca@reviewlist10:28
nothalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-core-launcher/unshare/+merge/258367 | Approve: 1, Needs Fixing: 1 (7 days old)10:28
nothalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/webdm/queryPackageNames/+merge/258640 | No reviews (5 days old)10:28
nothalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/log-command-failure/+merge/258669 | Approve: 1 (5 days old)10:28
nothalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/no-more-log/+merge/258667 | No reviews (5 days old)10:28
nothalhttps://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/different-logger/+merge/258664 | No reviews (5 days old)10:28
vmayoral|pcgreetings12:18
vmayoral|pccan anyone from Canonical take a look at https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/2641?12:18
beuno_vmayoral|pc, hi. It seems to need some fixes in the packaging12:22
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beunovmayoral|pc, can you make sure you're using the latest tool from the PPA?12:23
rsalvetimorning13:26
mterryLet's say that ~mir-team wants to upload a package for Mir in the snappy store.  Which developer account uploads that?  We can't have team accounts upload a package, right?  Do they just make a dummy user account with a shared password?13:41
ogra_mterry, hmm, i think the webapps team and core-apps teams handle that case somehow ... ask popey :)13:43
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vmayoral|pcgreetings beuno_, i can't find snappy-tools, within the packages installed in my BBB image https://gist.github.com/vmayoral/0cd0c7cb7cb70494c72c14:35
vmayoral|pcbeuno_: mind pointing out how can I update the packaging tools?14:38
vmayoral|pci'm hoping that this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu/+bug/1454619 ends up having snappy-tools available as an armhf .deb which will simplify updating the snappy tools for our BBB images14:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1454619 in snappy-ubuntu "snappy PPAs should provide armhf packages" [Undecided,New]14:40
vmayoral|pcubottu: thanks, updated the threads. Still unable to set it up. Apparently due to "snappy-remote"14:55
ubottuvmayoral|pc: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:55
rsalvetivmayoral|pc: I believe I might need to trigger a rebuild for those packages15:00
rsalvetivmayoral|pc: will take care of this later today15:00
vmayoral|pcrsalveti: awesome! was trying to get snappy-remote built with not real good results https://gist.github.com/vmayoral/80906b27d92f96f87153, thanks!15:02
=== erkules_ is now known as erkules
jkridnerasac: we going to get you on this weekly technical call some time?16:01
jkridnerasac: we keep missing you.16:01
jkridnerasac: rcn-ee and I are on the call now.16:01
ogra_jkridner, he is on vacation this week16:02
jkridnerthanks ogra_16:22
=== JamesTai1 is now known as JamesTait

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