[06:22] <tbr> hmmm 2001:6b0:e:2018::1337 as used by releases.ubuntu.com seems down
[06:35] <tvoss> o/
[07:22] <tbr> good moaning tvoss
[07:22] <tvoss> o/
[07:23] <tvoss> I'm not really around :)
[07:23]  * tbr is closer to understanding the mechanics of UEFI boot of snappy now...
[08:34] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Golf Day! 😃
[09:33] <svij> can anyone give me a hint, why snappy doesn't want to boot from my beaglebone black? When powering on there are only USER LEDS 0-2 contantly lighting up and nothing happens. I've tried two different sd cards, other images (like a „normal“ ubuntu 14.04.2 image) do boot normally… any ideas?
[09:36] <ogra_> svij, did you try holding donw the button ?
[09:36] <ogra_> (S2 i thinnk)
[09:37] <svij> ogra_: yeah, than there a no lights and nothing happens (well no lights except the power  led)
[09:38] <ogra_> well, do you have a serial cable ?
[09:39] <svij> no I don't
[09:41] <svij> ~20$ oO
[09:41] <ogra_> woaah, where do you look ?
[09:42] <ogra_> should be below 10€ on amazon
[09:42] <svij> oh
[09:42] <svij> I checked this page: http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBone_Black_Serial
[09:42]  * ogra_ currently uses http://www.amazon.de/SainSmart-Serial-Debug-Console-Raspberry/dp/B00KVUSI30/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417690697&sr=8-1&keywords=FTDI+Cable+3.3
[09:42] <ogra_> sadly sold out, i found that to be most compatible
[09:43] <svij> any suggestions for another one?
[09:44] <ogra_> any 3.3V FPGA should do ... make sure to get the four loose cable ends, not a 4 prong plug
[09:44] <ogra_> that way you can use it on other boards too in case they need a different order for the plug
[09:45] <beowulf> Chipaca: any recommendations on where to buy a bbb in uk?
[09:46] <Chipaca> beowulf: amazon
[09:49] <svij> ogra_: this one? http://www.amazon.de/Neuftech-PL2303HX-Konverter-Converter-Adapter/dp/B00R76SCJ6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431596874&sr=8-1&keywords=USB+to+TTL+Serial+Cable
[09:49] <beowulf> Chipaca: 50 snoops, a raspberry pi 2 is 30... any reason to go for one over the other?
[09:50] <Chipaca> beowulf: what's "50 snoops"?
[09:50] <ogra_> svij, looks good .... (dont use the red one (VCC) on the beagle ;) you only need RX,TX and GND)
[09:51] <beowulf> Chipaca: you know, snoops
[09:52] <svij> ogra_: alright, I'm not really familiar this stuff. Ordered and thanks. :)
[09:52] <Chipaca> beowulf: mmm... nope, no idea :) but the bbbs are all pretty much the same afaict. Also don't forget a usb serial thingie
[09:56] <ogra_> svij, great, serial cables are kind of an essential tool when working with arm boards :)
[09:59] <svij> ogra_: ok! :)
[09:59]  * svij now tries to build a snappy image for a raspi 2…
[10:02] <tbr> ogra_: indeed they are #essentialtools
[10:03] <ogra_> :)
[10:11] <Chipaca> @reviewlist
[10:11] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-core-launcher/unshare/+merge/258367 | Approve: 1, Needs Fixing: 1 (7 days old)
[10:11] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/webdm/post-css-bem-lint/+merge/258696 | No reviews (5 days old)
[10:11] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/webdm/queryPackageNames/+merge/258640 | No reviews (5 days old)
[10:11] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/snappy/docs-tidy-up-package-metadata/+merge/259050 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[10:11] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/snappy/fix-typos-in-config-docs/+merge/259027 | No reviews (less than a day old)
[10:13] <Chipaca> why isn't there a markdown linter that doesn't depend on node?
[10:13] <beowulf> Chipaca: huh?
[10:15] <Chipaca> beowulf: a markdown linter? a thing that told us when we weren't following some kind of 'markdown best practices' or whatever (basically, that it would work on most markdown flavours)
[10:16] <beowulf> Chipaca: ah, but markdown is many different things
[10:16] <beowulf> a django markdown linter would be required here, but that's not the same as a github markdown linter, i guess
[10:17] <Chipaca> beowulf: AIUI our markdown goes to three different places: django, github, and pandoc
[10:17] <beowulf> i think the docs would be helped with a proper nav to the side, instead of a top breadcrumb style nav
[10:18] <beowulf> also, <tt> and <code> need clearer styling
[10:18] <beowulf> Chipaca: github, really? editing would have been so much easier there...
[10:19] <Chipaca> beowulf: i think it's only sergiusens that cares about that one, for now :) although i hear mterry is also a fan
[10:19] <beowulf> Chipaca: but then, the markdown for developer.u.c needs to be django flavour, unless we change that
[10:19] <Chipaca> dholbach was usig pandoc for ... dunno where, at this stage :)
[10:21] <beowulf> also the docs could consider linking to snappy-examples where relevant, like for snappy config we have two examples that would help i think
[10:21]  * beowulf is throwing words to the void, probably
[10:22] <Chipaca> beowulf: linked, or include?
[10:22] <beowulf> Chipaca: include && link
[10:27] <beowulf> Chipaca: i tried to find the source of https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/guides/appliance-builder-guide-webcam/ but failed, but it's missing some <p>'s
[10:27] <Chipaca> beowulf: poke the holbach
[10:27] <Chipaca> beowulf: (gently)
[10:28] <Chipaca> @reviewlist
[10:28] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-core-launcher/unshare/+merge/258367 | Approve: 1, Needs Fixing: 1 (7 days old)
[10:28] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/webdm/queryPackageNames/+merge/258640 | No reviews (5 days old)
[10:28] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/log-command-failure/+merge/258669 | Approve: 1 (5 days old)
[10:28] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/no-more-log/+merge/258667 | No reviews (5 days old)
[10:28] <nothal> https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/different-logger/+merge/258664 | No reviews (5 days old)
[12:18] <vmayoral|pc> greetings
[12:18] <vmayoral|pc> can anyone from Canonical take a look at https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/2641?
[12:22] <beuno_> vmayoral|pc, hi. It seems to need some fixes in the packaging
[12:23] <beuno> vmayoral|pc, can you make sure you're using the latest tool from the PPA?
[13:26] <rsalveti> morning
[13:41] <mterry> Let's say that ~mir-team wants to upload a package for Mir in the snappy store.  Which developer account uploads that?  We can't have team accounts upload a package, right?  Do they just make a dummy user account with a shared password?
[13:43] <ogra_> mterry, hmm, i think the webapps team and core-apps teams handle that case somehow ... ask popey :)
[14:35] <vmayoral|pc> greetings beuno_, i can't find snappy-tools, within the packages installed in my BBB image https://gist.github.com/vmayoral/0cd0c7cb7cb70494c72c
[14:38] <vmayoral|pc> beuno_: mind pointing out how can I update the packaging tools?
[14:40] <vmayoral|pc> i'm hoping that this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy-ubuntu/+bug/1454619 ends up having snappy-tools available as an armhf .deb which will simplify updating the snappy tools for our BBB images
[14:55] <vmayoral|pc> ubottu: thanks, updated the threads. Still unable to set it up. Apparently due to "snappy-remote"
[15:00] <rsalveti> vmayoral|pc: I believe I might need to trigger a rebuild for those packages
[15:00] <rsalveti> vmayoral|pc: will take care of this later today
[15:02] <vmayoral|pc> rsalveti: awesome! was trying to get snappy-remote built with not real good results https://gist.github.com/vmayoral/80906b27d92f96f87153, thanks!
[16:01] <jkridner> asac: we going to get you on this weekly technical call some time?
[16:01] <jkridner> asac: we keep missing you.
[16:01] <jkridner> asac: rcn-ee and I are on the call now.
[16:02] <ogra_> jkridner, he is on vacation this week
[16:22] <jkridner> thanks ogra_