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[05:59] <elacheche_anis> Morning kenju254 :)
[05:59] <elacheche_anis> Morning Kilos  :)
[06:00] <Kilos> morning elacheche_anis
[06:00] <elacheche_anis> :)
[06:22] <philipballew> Kilos, hey there man
[06:22] <Kilos> hi philipballew  you well?
[06:23] <philipballew> Kilos, maybe. I am in summer school currently
[06:23] <philipballew> its 15-18 hour days
[06:23] <philipballew> so a pain in the ass
[06:23] <Kilos> whew
[06:23] <philipballew> but I am healthy
[06:23] <Kilos> good just do your best
[06:23] <Kilos> and good luck with everything you do
[06:25] <philipballew> Kilos, thanks man.
[06:25] <philipballew> How goes the Ubuntu Africa hunt?
[06:26] <Kilos> ive been a bit busy but there are 2 new ones that pop in now and again but not from official locos
[06:26] <philipballew> Kilos, oh, I see. They need to become official
[06:27] <philipballew> This weekend I am going to go to Mexico to hand out copies of the Official Ubuntu book.
[06:27] <Kilos> yeah seems like the old locos have broken down
[06:27] <Kilos> nice , i have an old one
[06:27] <philipballew> by go to mexico, I mean, take the subway 20 km's south.
[06:27] <Kilos> lots of info in them
[06:27] <Kilos> lol
[06:30] <philipballew> Kilos, I think you organizing something like Ubuntucom Latin AMerica is not a bad idea
[06:31] <Kilos> no but ill need to get the clever guys like elacheche_anis  to do that
[06:32] <Kilos> also im not in a rush because some of the loco guys are very busy with projects so dont have time atm
[06:36] <elacheche_anis> Hey! Something like what?
[06:40]  * elacheche_anis GTG.. elacheche will be awake in 1h (time to reach the office x) )
[06:43] <Kilos> k
[07:56] <elacheche> o/
[07:57] <Kilos> hehe
[07:58] <elacheche> :D
[07:58] <Kilos> you start late hey?
[07:58] <elacheche> Actually I'm early x) I used to be @work by 9am
[07:58] <elacheche> x)
[07:59] <Kilos> good life for the idle rich
[08:00] <elacheche> l00l.. :) I'm not poor.. But not a millionaire too :D
[08:01] <Kilos> dont spend so much and you will get ther
[08:01] <Kilos> e
[08:02] <elacheche> :D I don't :) I'm not that kind of boys who spend money on everything useless :)
[08:02] <Kilos> good
[08:03] <Kilos> your fiance has forsaken us
 no but ill need to get the clever guys like elacheche_anis  to do that
[08:03] <elacheche> What's that!
[08:03] <Kilos> organizing something like Ubuntucom Latin AMerica
[08:04] <elacheche> What's Ubuntucom Latin AMerica ? → Can't find links referring to it
[08:04] <Kilos> lemme see what i can find
[08:05] <elacheche> Cool :D Before 10am I can't really find anything by myself.. I need to have my coffee then I can find things :D
[08:05] <Kilos> philipballew  explain that for us please
[08:06] <Kilos> QA  coffee on
[08:06]  * QA puts the kettle on
[08:06] <elacheche> ~_~ *_*
[08:06] <Kilos> elacheche  type QA  coffee please
[08:06] <elacheche> philipballew, morning there!
[08:06] <elacheche> QA coffee please
[08:06] <QA> elacheche: Yessir
[08:07] <Kilos> takes 4 minutes to brew
[08:10] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos and elacheche!
[08:10] <Kilos> QA  ty
[08:10] <QA> Only a pleasure Kilos
[08:10] <elacheche> QA, thx
[08:10] <QA> elacheche: Huh?
[08:11] <Kilos> QA  thx
[08:11] <QA> Dont be lazy Kilos Type something understandable
[08:12] <philipballew> Kilos, alright
[08:13] <philipballew> http://ubuconla.org/
[08:13] <Kilos> cool ty
[08:13] <Kilos> elacheche  ^^
[08:17] <elacheche> I see! Thanks philipballew :)
[08:18] <elacheche> That's cool if we can prepare something like that! But first we need to feed our LoCos first :)
[08:18] <Kilos> we need to get enough guys here for our first meeting
[08:19] <elacheche> Yep! Who misses?!
[08:19] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams
[08:20] <Kilos> sill 8 to find i think
[08:20] <Kilos> still
[08:20] <Kilos> benno has some contact with one of the countries but i forget which one
[08:21] <Kilos> ill ask him to wake them up
[08:23] <elacheche> ok
[08:39] <Kilos> some of the new guys that popped in here arent part of locos even , so that will be another mission to get them to form new locos
[09:38] <elacheche> Kilos, It's not that easy to convince popey x)
[09:38] <Kilos> nope im starting to get cross now
[09:38] <elacheche> means?
[09:39] <Kilos> he is making me angry
[09:39] <elacheche> hahahaha :D Take it easy :)
[09:39] <Kilos> https://launchpad.net/~popey
[09:40] <Kilos> he thinks because he is at canonical its his decision to make on his own
[09:40] <elacheche> x)
[09:49] <elacheche> SDCDev == Private_User  ??
[09:49] <Kilos> no
[09:51] <Kilos> sdcdev is on the cape north east coast and private user is in northern natal
[09:51] <elacheche> nice to meet you guys :)
[09:51] <SDCDev> hey :)
[09:52] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:52] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[09:52] <inetpro> Kilos: unless we start getting people in Africa to help make significant and sustained contributions to Ubuntu or the Ubuntu community we can not expect others to change their schedules when it works for them the way it is at the moment
[09:53] <Kilos> he says now one can apply via email, but i cant find where it says that
[09:54] <Kilos> its a community thing not just a canonical thing
[09:55] <inetpro> Kilos: I wrote, "...contributions to Ubuntu or the Ubuntu community..."
[09:56] <Kilos> elacheche  ask your fiance to bring up this matter in the council
[09:56] <Kilos> yes but so far 2 have kicked up a fuss
[09:58]  * inetpro just saying, don't kick up a fuss unless you are sure that you have the backup from your community
[09:58] <Kilos> 5 have supported and 2 against
[09:59] <inetpro> Kilos: question, how many new members will you sign up by changing the schedule?
[10:00] <Kilos> within a month 1 or 2 but as africa gets more active i think lots
[10:00] <inetpro> the problem IMHO is not the schedule, the problem lies somewhere else
[10:00] <inetpro> for now at least
[10:01] <Kilos> applying for membership is a major task
[10:01] <elacheche> Kilos, my fiancee is in the LoCo council not the CC :p
[10:01] <Kilos> inetpro  where then?
[10:02] <Kilos> so who do we know in the cc
[10:02] <Kilos> dholbach and nhaines
[10:02] <Kilos> ?
[10:02] <inetpro> Kilos: unfortunately I have no time to discuss it now, but that is the discussion that we need to have
[10:02] <Kilos> ok
[10:04] <inetpro> oh and Kilos, feel free to discuss with other people
[10:06] <Kilos> lol thats what im doing but seems peeps are scared of canonical employees
[10:07] <inetpro> I don't think so... but that is another debate
[10:07] <elacheche> inetpro, you wanna hear something funny?
[10:08] <inetpro> elacheche: ?
[10:12] <elacheche> last week I was about starting a debate on the ML why dolibach added sabdfl after he expires :p After that someone else told us that if someone expires we can add him without an interview after he request it :)
[10:12]  * elacheche knows exactly who's sabdfl :D
[10:13] <Kilos> lol
[10:14] <Kilos> elacheche  your loco also dropped in the last few years right?
[10:14] <Kilos> along with all other locos in africa
[10:15] <Kilos> except ZA of course
[10:15] <elacheche> Yeah.. That's true Kilos I'm almost fighting alone to keep the LoCo Up.. I'm very afraid from the next LoCo Council approval meeting in August :'(
[10:16] <Kilos> right so i will start a new thread about the state of locos, i think it is a world wide problem
[10:17] <Kilos> or easier for me to chat on locoteams
[10:18] <Kilos> otherwise i must mail popeye directly and convince him off list
[12:53] <Kilos> elacheche
[12:53] <elacheche> k
[12:53] <elacheche> Kilos,
[12:54] <Kilos> im sure i saw there wer around 60 members on the membership board
[12:54] <Kilos> now i cant find it
[12:54] <Kilos> we arent just 8
[12:55] <elacheche> just a sec
[12:55] <Kilos> ty take your time
[12:56] <inetpro> Kilos: ping
[12:56] <Kilos> inetpro  pong
[12:56] <inetpro> what you will have to spell out very clearly is the fact that you are not just talking about the membership board
[12:57] <elacheche> Kilos, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-membership-board/+members#active
[12:57] <inetpro> but also about the actual applicants and their supporters who may want to take part in the process of applying for membership
[12:57] <inetpro> let's be honest, for many new members it may be a highlight in their life and often a major challenge to overcome, for most of them not something they can do during normal working hours,
[12:58] <inetpro> and although it might not lead to a sudden flood of new applicants applying for membership if you do decide to change or add another meeting to the schedules
[12:58] <Kilos> i agree full heatedly
[12:58] <inetpro> it would be so much more accommodating and the right thing to do for those members from as far as Hong Kong at UTC+8 to Dakar at UTC
[12:58] <inetpro> who like ordinary people are typically sleeping with the current late schedule at 22:00 UTC
[12:59] <inetpro> do we really want to exclude these members from taking part in the Ubuntu community?
[12:59] <Kilos> nope i am concerned about the whole ubuntu community world wide
[12:59] <Kilos> thats why i helped korea rebuild their loce
[13:01] <inetpro> look at the map at http://www.timeanddate.com/time/map/#!cities=74,102
[13:02] <Kilos> elacheche  did a time thing
[13:02] <Kilos> showing -8   0  +8 times
[13:02] <inetpro> from Hong Kong to Dakar is quite a few people
[13:04] <Kilos> i agree an effort must be made worldwide to revive everything, but one first sweeps your own porch before sweeping the street you live in
[13:05] <Kilos> luckily za is growing so next street is africa then the world
[13:05]  * inetpro said what he wanted to say
[13:06] <Kilos> lol
[13:12] <Kilos> thats a nice map, ty inetpro
[13:30] <Kilos> inetpro  if i use your words are you going to charge me with plagiarism?
[13:31] <inetpro> Kilos: you are welcome to use them, that's why I posted here
[13:31] <Kilos> i know ty
[13:32] <Kilos> hehe
[13:32] <inetpro> copy, paste, edit as much as you want
[13:33] <Kilos> yeah i need your rationality, i get like a bull in a china shop when i get frustrated or thwarted
[13:54] <Kilos> inetpro  elacheche  http://slexy.org/raw/s21IzhhXZs
[13:54] <Kilos> add or change as you see fit please
[13:55] <Kilos> elacheche  you can even add bells and whistles if you think that will have more impact
[15:23] <Kilos> inetpro  elacheche  not that one this one http://slexy.org/view/s20UolJAst
[19:01] <inetpro> good evening
[19:02] <inetpro> oh and hi Kilos
[19:02] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[19:02] <inetpro> Kilos: you still waiting for me?
[19:02] <Kilos> http://slexy.org/view/s20UolJAst
[19:02] <Kilos> always
[19:02] <inetpro> ai!
[19:02] <inetpro> why?
[19:02] <Kilos> lol
[19:02] <Kilos> why not
[19:03] <inetpro> you know what you want to say, just send it man
[19:03] <Kilos> i can get a bit heavier
[19:03] <Kilos> read it
[19:03] <Kilos> dont always argue
[19:03] <inetpro> I have no issue with it
[19:03] <inetpro> what they make of it is another story
[19:03] <Kilos> nothing to add or remove?
[19:04] <inetpro> well you left out my hong kong story but I can live with that
[19:04] <inetpro> in the end it's your words that count more than mine
[19:04] <Kilos> i didnt follow that
[19:05] <inetpro> ai!
[19:05] <Kilos> hard to find all them places and match times
[19:05] <elacheche_anis> o/
[19:05] <Kilos> elacheche_anis  wb
[19:05] <inetpro> Kilos: what time is it in Hong Kong at 22:00 UTC?
[19:05] <Kilos> i dunno
[19:05] <Kilos> my head not happy tonight
[19:06] <Kilos> inetpro  does the 20.00 suit hong kong better as well
[19:07] <inetpro> QA: when is 22:00 UTC in Hong Kong
[19:07] <QA> inetpro: 2015-05-14 22:00:00 UTC is 2015-05-15 06:00:00 HKT
[19:08] <inetpro> Kilos: it is 6:00 in the morning
[19:08] <Kilos> so its good for them before work
[19:08] <inetpro> you think many people will be up and ready for a meeting at 6:00 in the morning?
[19:09] <Kilos> oh you mean its bad for them
[19:09] <inetpro> normal people wake up at that time to get ready for work
[19:09] <inetpro> exactly
[19:09] <Kilos> ya but the other two times must stay as well
[19:09] <inetpro> Kilos: don't you get it?
[19:10] <Kilos> otherwise ill never here the end of it
[19:10] <Kilos> no
[19:10] <inetpro> what's the other meeting time ?
[19:10] <Kilos> 12.00 and 22.00
[19:10] <inetpro> QA: when is 12:00 UTC in Hong Kong
[19:10] <QA> inetpro: 2015-05-14 12:00:00 UTC is 2015-05-14 20:00:00 HKT
[19:11] <inetpro> hmm...
[19:11] <Kilos> thats good for them/
[19:11] <inetpro> ok, so Hong Kong will be fine at that time
[19:12] <Kilos> yes
[19:12] <inetpro> QA: when is 12:00 UTC in Bangalore
[19:12] <QA> inetpro: That didn't go down very well. Burp.
[19:13] <Kilos> lol
[19:13] <inetpro> QA: when is 12:00 UTC in Karnataka
[19:13] <QA> inetpro: I'm not feeling too well
[19:13] <inetpro> ai!
[19:13] <inetpro> QA: when is 12:00 UTC in India
[19:13] <QA> inetpro: 2015-05-14 12:00:00 UTC is 2015-05-14 17:30:00 IST
[19:13] <Kilos> see the 20.00 is good for them too
[19:14] <Kilos> oh
[19:14] <inetpro> QA: when is 20:00 UTC in India
[19:14] <QA> inetpro: 2015-05-14 20:00:00 UTC is 2015-05-15 01:30:00 IST
[19:14] <inetpro> QA: when is 22:00 UTC in India
[19:14] <QA> inetpro: 2015-05-14 22:00:00 UTC is 2015-05-15 03:30:00 IST
[19:14] <Kilos> no sorry i looked wrong
[19:15] <inetpro> nope, that's not a good time at all
[19:15] <inetpro> you see, that is why I said originally you should have a time before 12:00 UTC as well
[19:15] <inetpro> QA: when is 8:00 UTC in India
[19:15] <QA> inetpro: 2015-05-14 08:00:00 UTC is 2015-05-14 13:30:00 IST
[19:15] <Kilos> eish im struggling just to get one added
[19:15] <inetpro> I know
[19:16] <inetpro> it's a tough problem to solve
[19:17] <Kilos> yeah
[19:17] <inetpro> ideally you should have enough members of the board in each timezone
[19:17] <Kilos> especially when some are totally unbendable
[19:18] <inetpro> or at least members in timezones closer to the relevant region
[19:18] <Kilos> i have no idea how india managed before
[19:19] <inetpro> would be interesting if someone could figure out what the most productive time is for member contributions per timezone
[19:22] <Kilos> you see i think they dont want timezones to do peeps in their zone. maybe scared of favouritism
[19:24] <inetpro> Kilos: sure thing, but then you could keep everything running full steam around the clock
[19:25] <Kilos> yes i agree
[19:26] <Kilos> there are only 17 board members atm and 5 from the council i think that can jump in
[19:26] <Kilos> but some i have seen hide or hair of yet
[19:26] <Kilos> havent