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| chaos7theory | Does anyone know of a good admin GUI for Postgresql on Ubuntu 14.04 Server? I'm using Nginx but PhpPgAdmin wants me to install Apache | 01:11 |
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| jrwren | chaos7theory: pgadmin3 ? | 01:49 |
| mwhudson | lolcopter, my "go standard library in a shared library" .so makes dpkg-shlibdeps pretty unhappy | 01:57 |
| mwhudson | (probably because of all the spaces in the symbol names) | 01:57 |
| sarnold | mwhudson: haha, spaces in symbol names does sound like something that would drive the linker insane :) | 03:25 |
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| infinity | mwhudson: Spaces in symbols names? Really? Ew. | 05:39 |
| infinity | mwhudson: Sounds like that could use some C++ style symbol mangling. | 05:39 |
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| mwhudson | infinity, sarnold: oh yeah, there's some utf-8 too | 07:54 |
| mwhudson | is that better or worse? :) | 07:54 |
| mwhudson | sarnold: the linker copes fine (slightly surprisingly) | 07:54 |
| mwhudson | shell scripts that parse the output of readelf... possibly not so much | 07:55 |
| infinity | mwhudson: utf-8.. symbols? | 07:58 |
| infinity | mwhudson: Is Go insane, or just your synthetic examples? | 07:58 |
| mwhudson | infinity: the go linker coalsesces most of these symbols with silly names into one elf symbol + offset | 07:59 |
| mwhudson | but that doesn't work for dynamic linking, so i just disabled that code | 08:00 |
| infinity | mwhudson: Anyhow, if this is a thing that should actually be a thing, and if readelf's output is correct, it's not hard to fix dpkg-shlibdeps to DTRT. Spaces and utf-8 in shell aren't actually hard, just unexpected in this case. :P | 08:00 |
| mwhudson | i'm a little surprised that i never had to do anything else to make it work | 08:00 |
| mwhudson | the utf-8 is limited, it's just interpuncts | 08:01 |
| mwhudson | they usually get normalized to periods, but that ends up being a headache because obv it's not reversible | 08:01 |
| * infinity nods. | 08:01 | |
| mwhudson | tbh, i don't think the linker (program or dynamic) cares at all about the contents of symbol names | 08:02 |
| mwhudson | just a bunch of bytes | 08:02 |
| mwhudson | i should create symbols that are differently normalized utf-8 for maximum lols | 08:02 |
| infinity | I wouldn't be so sure that there aren't some locale-sensitive string functions in play for things like libdl. But I guess dlopen is another thing to tackle down the road, or not at all, if you have no intent to mix-and-match C and Go in that direction. | 08:04 |
| mwhudson | dlopen type stuff is special pain for a few reasons | 08:04 |
| mwhudson | such as tls models | 08:05 |
| infinity | By which, you mean, glibc is the One True TLS implementation, but others might not entirely agree? :) | 08:06 |
| mwhudson | no, i mean le vs ie vs gd vs tlsdesc | 08:06 |
| mwhudson | i've only found three things i want the dynamic linker to do differently in the course of this work | 08:07 |
| * mwhudson needs to read all the debhelper documentation again i think | 08:08 | |
| xnox | infinity: and the one for today https://youtu.be/uV2uebhnqOw | 08:36 |
| xnox | so many moves i need to study =) | 08:37 |
| roaksoax | infinity: howdy! any update on the maas 1.7 SRU ? | 08:48 |
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| mwhudson | sigh, i wonder if there are any other packaging mistakes i can make today | 09:28 |
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| mwhudson | ah i can create broken symlinks | 09:52 |
| davmor2 | mwhudson: I have every faith in you | 09:53 |
| infinity | davmor2: A+ sarcasm. | 09:59 |
| infinity | roaksoax: I'm on vacation for a week, so ignoring your question for the sake of my own sanity (but I'll look more closely when I get back). | 10:00 |
| Unit193 | ...to make more mistakes, he forgot to add. | 10:00 |
| davmor2 | infinity: you're welcome :) | 10:01 |
| roaksoax | infinity: thanks :) | 10:10 |
| roaksoax | infinity: enjoy the holiday time and get away from a computer :) that's what vacations are for :) | 10:11 |
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| mwhudson | Unit193: that was my assumption as to meaning :-) | 10:45 |
| mwhudson | woo: | 10:46 |
| mwhudson | root@go1:/# go build -linkshared trivial.go && ls -lh ./trivial | 10:46 |
| mwhudson | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 15K May 14 10:45 ./trivial | 10:46 |
| mwhudson | (without -linkshared it's 1.1M) | 10:46 |
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| TJ- | Trying to backport Java 8 packages from Vivid to Trusty, I'm getting a PPA build failure for the openjfx package: | 14:18 |
| TJ- | "Cannot find System Java Compiler". openjdk-8-jdk already built in the PPA and javac installed "update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/bin/javac to provide /usr/bin/javac (javac) in auto mode"; build log @ https://launchpadlibrarian.net/206487969/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.openjfx_8u40-b25-1~ubuntu14.04.1~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz ... anyone give me hints on this, web searches don't reveal much nor does #launchpad | 14:19 |
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| davmor2 | roaksoax: no they aren't they are for test how well you can work and partake of the ubuntu community from your ubuntu powered phone aren't they or is that me :D | 14:56 |
| roaksoax | davmor2: huh? | 15:01 |
| rbasak | cjwatson: please could you take a look at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=782552? This is following up from a discussion we had on IRC a while ago - you asked that I sent to Debian instead of deltifying Ubuntu. | 15:02 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 782552 in grub-common "recordfail false positive causes headless servers to hang on boot" [Normal,Open] | 15:02 |
| davmor2 | roaksoax: Sorry just catching up on the channel and saw your comment to infinity | 15:02 |
| rbasak | This is something that I'd like considered for an SRU in time, too. | 15:05 |
| roaksoax | davmor2: ah :) | 15:05 |
| cjwatson | rbasak: Oh yes, sorry. Committed as https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-grub/grub.git/commit/?id=4473aff5090de389c9b5b2083c738df3b8fb91ac and uploading shortly. Please could you organise the SRU? | 15:19 |
| rbasak | cjwatson: no problem. Yes, I'll organise the SRU. Thanks! | 15:21 |
| cjwatson | rbasak: (uploaded to Debian now, can be synced later) | 15:24 |
| lathiat | cjwatson: rbasak: oh, awesome, nice patch :-) | 15:26 |
| lathiat | ++ | 15:26 |
| barry | o/ | 15:34 |
| bdmurray | barry: How did you end up seeing the removal of the egg-info file? | 15:36 |
| barry | bdmurray: okay, let's start at the beginning. LP: #1324391 is the import error bug | 15:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1324391 in python-pip (Ubuntu) "pip 1.5.4 import an invalid dependencies " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1324391 | 15:36 |
| barry | bdmurray, doko what's the bug for the egg-info problem? | 15:37 |
| doko | barry, did I file one? | 15:38 |
| barry | doko: i can't find one on python-pip src pkg | 15:39 |
| bdmurray | So I just recreated the missing egg-info by the following | 15:39 |
| bdmurray | schroot as sudo, apt-get install python-pip, pip install httpie, pip --help | 15:39 |
| bdmurray | (trusty-amd64)root@impulse:/home/bdmurray# debsums python-requests | 15:39 |
| bdmurray | debsums: missing file /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests-2.2.1.egg-info (from python-requests package) | 15:39 |
| bdmurray | that's with -updates enabled | 15:39 |
| barry | my chroot's broken. while i fix that: i think that's the same repro for the import error, right bdmurray? | 15:41 |
| bdmurray | and the same thing happens without -updates | 15:41 |
| bdmurray | barry: that's right | 15:41 |
| bdmurray | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11132197/ | 15:41 |
| barry | bdmurray: okay. so can do you do the following? add that repro instructions to LP: #1324391. describe that it causes both theimport error and egg-info problem | 15:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1324391 in python-pip (Ubuntu) "pip 1.5.4 import an invalid dependencies " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1324391 | 15:42 |
| barry | include the above output | 15:42 |
| barry | i've reopened the bug and will assign to me | 15:42 |
| bdmurray | barry: okay, and then what about phasing the update? | 15:42 |
| barry | bdmurray: i'm on the fence about that ;) | 15:43 |
| barry | not sure what the right thing to do there is | 15:44 |
| barry | i guess, go with the plan from the meeting? | 15:44 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: you were in favor of continuing the phasing of the SRU correct? | 15:46 |
| slangasek | bdmurray: if that same problem (including .egg-info removal) happens both with and without -updates, then yes, I'm in favor of continuing to phase the SRU | 16:09 |
| bdmurray | slangasek: okay, that's what I'd thought | 16:10 |
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| elopio | ogra_: do you know what's the equivalent of intitctl set-env --global Test=test in systemd? | 16:51 |
| elopio | systemctl set-environment --global Test=test gives a permission error: Failed to get D-Bus connection | 16:51 |
| elopio | who knows about systedm in here? | 17:05 |
| ogra_ | elopio, pitti mostly, but its a public holiday here in germany today | 17:06 |
| elopio | yes, live is scary without pitti. He'll be away tomorrow too. | 17:15 |
| slangasek | jodh: hi, so I've looked at merging lp:~jamesodhunt/upstart/bug-1447756-the-actual-fix; and the changes look fine to me, but I haven't landed it yet because I'm getting a test failure in test_job_process, have you seen this? | 17:16 |
| slangasek | jodh: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11133446/ on a vivid system | 17:20 |
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| jodh | slangasek: ah - you've hit kernel bug 1429756 :) | 17:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1429756 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "FTBFS: upstart test_job_process fails in majority of cases / Kernel returning unexpected EIO at end of file" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1429756 | 17:25 |
| slangasek | jodh: mm ok | 17:25 |
| slangasek | jodh: the bug history shows apw asking you for a test of his kernel, did you test that? | 17:27 |
| jodh | slangasek: yes | 17:27 |
| slangasek | jodh: ok, could you update the bug report with your test results? ;) | 17:28 |
| slangasek | jodh: oh nevermind, it's written there - sorry! | 17:28 |
| slangasek | so what's blocking this from being fixed? | 17:28 |
| slangasek | apw: ^^ is bug #1429756 still on your radar? | 17:28 |
| ubottu | bug 1429756 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "FTBFS: upstart test_job_process fails in majority of cases / Kernel returning unexpected EIO at end of file" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1429756 | 17:28 |
| slangasek | jodh: and I guess this has no effect on package builds because those aren't done on a vivid kernel. ok, merging | 17:30 |
| jodh | slangasek: that's right. I believe we're awaiting feedback om apw's patch from upstream atm. | 17:30 |
| jodh | slangasek: thanks! | 17:30 |
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| dobey | who can i bug about issues with lxc-create failing? | 18:06 |
| rbasak | dobey: stgraber or hallyn | 18:08 |
| rbasak | Though they may bug you back about using lxd instead :) | 18:09 |
| dobey | well i'm not trying to do openstack stuff | 18:10 |
| dobey | just create a simple lxc of wily to build stuff in | 18:10 |
| rbasak | lxd != nova-compute-lxd. lxd gives you an lxc command which is a much more polished interface to the same backend lxc-* speak to | 18:12 |
| rbasak | (+ the daemon, so it's not exactly the same I guess though) | 18:12 |
| dobey | then someone needs to update http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/lxd perhaps | 18:14 |
| dobey | anyway, i doubt that would solve the issue i'm seeing anyway | 18:14 |
| dobey | i am seeing this when trying to create a vivid or wily guest: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11134153/ | 18:16 |
| dobey | an apparently non-existent and uninstallable virtual package | 18:17 |
| elopio | I'm guessing the thing corresponding to --global in systemd is --system | 18:22 |
| rbasak | dobey: using the "ubuntu" template? Sounds like a bug in the template. Are you aware of the "ubuntu-cloud" template? It uses a cloud image instead of running debootstrap | 18:22 |
| elopio | !--global would be --user. | 18:22 |
| ubottu | elopio: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 18:22 |
| rbasak | dobey: so might be a suitable workaround depending on your case. | 18:22 |
| dobey | rbasak: i wasn't aware, but i'll try it | 18:23 |
| rbasak | dobey: there's also the "download" template for general pre-built stuff though I don't know much about it. | 18:23 |
| rbasak | dobey: you probably want "-- -r vivid" or "-- -r wily -s daily -F" | 18:24 |
| rbasak | (for the ubuntu-cloud template) | 18:24 |
| dobey | ubuntu-cloud doesn't have the -b option to bind a user home dir? | 18:24 |
| rbasak | I didn't know about that option. I guess not. You can probably arrange it by hand the same way the ubuntu template does though. | 18:28 |
| dobey | There is no download available for release=wily, stream=daily, arch=amd64 | 18:29 |
| dobey | well, so much for that :) | 18:29 |
| dobey | there's nothing for wily under /query even | 18:30 |
| dobey | so i guess there are no wily cloud images yet? | 18:30 |
| rbasak | utlemming, Odd_Blok1: ^^? | 18:30 |
| rbasak | You could always dist-upgrade up from Vivid, though I appreciate that's tedious. | 18:31 |
| dobey | i did that from utopic to get a vivid lxc on my laptop | 18:34 |
| dobey | but it's still a bit off because rsyslog won't start properly on it | 18:35 |
| dobey | hmm, i was able to create a new vivid lxc on my workstation fine just now | 18:36 |
| elopio | tedg: should UbuntuAppLaunch work just the same with systemd and upstart? | 19:39 |
| elopio | I'm seeing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11135179/ with no clue where to look next. | 19:40 |
| tedg | elopio, It will, but we haven't ported it over. Waiting on session systemd to do that. | 19:46 |
| tedg | elopio, For system systemd you'll need to have cgmanager running. | 19:46 |
| tedg | (if you don't already) | 19:46 |
| elopio | tedg: it is running. | 19:47 |
| tedg | elopio, So then you should be good. You can make sure there's an application-legacy job by doing initctl list | 19:48 |
| elopio | tedg: do you mean systemctl status? | 19:50 |
| tedg | elopio, Nope, should be talking to the session Upstart | 19:52 |
| elopio | tedg: ok, I need veebers here as he'll probably end up doing the work. | 19:56 |
| elopio | I'll wait for him to arrive before asking more questions. | 19:56 |
| * tedg yells VEEBERS WAKE UP! ;-) | 19:59 | |
| veebers | elopio: Is the UbuntuAppStart issue easy to reproduce? | 20:58 |
| elopio | veebers: doesn't seem to make the autopilot selftests fail, but the tests in the toolkit fail. | 20:59 |
| elopio | veebers: so, get a wily. Probably a vm would be smarter than what I did. | 20:59 |
| elopio | bzr branch lp:~canonical-platform-qa/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/systemd | 20:59 |
| elopio | cd test/autopilot | 21:00 |
| elopio | run ubuntuuitoolkit.tests.test_fixture_setup. That will give you one failed test that tries to launch an app. | 21:00 |
| veebers | elopio: ack thanks, VM it is :-) | 21:01 |
| elopio | tedg: so... do you have an ETA for when the porting to systemd? | 21:04 |
| elopio | and can you tell me more about session systemd or help me finding a link? I don't know what you are talking about, and I can see my next week full of test changes to support wily. | 21:04 |
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| tedg | elopio, No specific ETA, there's a lot of work that needs to happen before that can. Most notably getting the phone onto system systemd. | 21:11 |
| tedg | elopio, Then work will start to port the services over, and then we can port UAL at roughly the same time. | 21:12 |
| tedg | elopio, So I think we're talking roughly July. | 21:12 |
| elopio | tedg: got it. So in the mean time, if we need to use UAL we need to install upstart, right> | 21:14 |
| elopio | ? | 21:14 |
| tedg | elopio, If you're running Unity (7 or 8) yes. | 21:14 |
| tedg | elopio, They all use Upstart for their session process management. | 21:15 |
| elopio | ok. That gives us time, we can just tell CI to install upstart in the wily machines. | 21:16 |
| veebers | elopio, tedg: so reading what has been said here, there isn't anything we can do except wait for the work to land? | 21:19 |
| tedg | I'm confused on your question. If for some reason you want to use a systemd based session, yes UAL needs to support that. Nothing uses a systemd session today. | 21:19 |
| tedg | Currently vivd/wily both use a systemd for a system process manager. | 21:20 |
| tedg | Except for phone, which still uses Upstart for system process management. | 21:20 |
| elopio | so on wily for now we need to use systemd as process manager and upstart as session manager? | 21:23 |
| veebers | tedg: hmm perhaps I'm missing some info; to rephrase: Running the UI toolkit autopilot tests fail on Wily with the error elopio pastebin-ed (it used to work i.e. on vivid) | 21:23 |
| veebers | wait, that's not really a question :-P | 21:23 |
| tedg | They're both process managers. Just system vs. session. On Vivid and Wily Upstart is the session process manager for Unity 7 and Unity 8. | 21:23 |
| elopio | tedg: but I had wily installed with unity7 without upstart being installed. | 21:24 |
| tedg | I don't think that's possible. None of the indicators would start if that's the case. | 21:24 |
| veebers | elopio: I wonder if some of the grief that you're seeing is due to the upgrade process, maybe a fresh install won't see these issues? | 21:26 |
| veebers | elopio: I'll be able to test that as soon as this iso is down | 21:26 |
| elopio | veebers: that's possible. | 21:28 |
| elopio | I upgraded, restarted. Used my machine for an hour with indicators and everything, and then it crashed. | 21:28 |
| elopio | I will also try afresh. | 21:28 |
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| bdmurray | arges: Where is you libmlx4 upload to wily? bug 1409904 | 21:49 |
| ubottu | bug 1409904 in libibverbs (Ubuntu) "Needed patches for InfiniBand Support: Flow Steering and Offload Support + Fixes" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1409904 | 21:50 |
| bdmurray | it looks like libibverbs made it to wily | 21:52 |
| veebers | elopio: any idea why trying to install ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot wants to install autopilot-legacy-desktop? | 22:33 |
| veebers | elopio: so I installed a fresh wily, installed bzr, py3-ap and ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot (to make sure all deps where there) ran the test you mentioned an have 25 passed tests | 22:37 |
| arges | bdmurray: thought I uploaded it | 22:40 |
| arges | bdmurray: i'll reupload it | 22:40 |
| arges | bdmurray: hmm i did upload it (according to my email) | 22:40 |
| bdmurray | arges: was it rejected because the version number already exists? | 22:41 |
| arges | bdmurray: last email I got was: [ubuntu/vivid-proposed] libmlx4 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 (Waiting for approval) | 22:52 |
| arges | bdmurray: oh | 22:52 |
| arges | bdmurray: i'll upload it into wily.. | 22:53 |
| arges | done | 22:55 |
| veebers | elopio: is there a way to replicate the other issue you have (something about complaining about autopilot-finger)? | 23:14 |
| rcj | Getting an error branching a pacakge source repo 'bzr branch lp:ubuntu/utopic/open-vm-tools' bzr: ERROR: Revision {package-import@ubuntu.com-20140404165114-xt0s4gbx0dii3fmt} not present in "Graph(StackedParentsProvider(bzrlib.repository._LazyListJoin(([CachingParentsProvider(None)], []))))". | 23:57 |
| rcj | Full cmd output at http://paste.ubuntu.com/11138204/ | 23:58 |
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