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up-userhello. how can I delete one / all calls on the call list?06:51
bqphonegood morning07:23
bqphoneyesterday my ubuntu phone got an update, is there a way to see what did exactly updated? is it posted somewhere?07:23
diplobqphone: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/ota-3.5.changelog07:41
bqphonethx mate07:46
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Golf Day! 😃08:34
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mptIs there any easy way to compare the phone language packs for two languages (e.g. en_ZM vs. en_ZW)?09:28
mptTo see how the translations differ09:28
seb128mpt, you want to compare specific strings?09:30
mptseb128, no, I want to see *all* the strings that are different09:31
seb128mpt, I don't think there is an easy way to do that09:32
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seb128mpt, you can "msgunfmt /usr/share/locale-langpack/<locale>/LC_MESSAGES/*" to get the list of strings for <locale>09:36
seb128mpt, so you can > log_en_GB for example and do the same on another locale and diff those files09:37
mptAh, neat09:37
seb128but the strings are not going to be always in the same order and headers change09:37
seb128so it's not as clean as "just show the difference"09:37
seb128but it can help you having an idea09:37
seb128otherwise you need more script, e.g using python09:37
seb128use "-s" with msgunfmt to sort the output, it should help diff to have similar context09:42
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studio_hi10:22
studio_since when do you support the bq Aquaris E5 HD? btw, big thanks :)10:23
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popeystudio_: we don't10:36
studio_https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en/10:38
studio_vegetahd10:39
studio_that is the "E5 HD"10:39
popeywell, that says 13 may10:41
studio_but it is not listed in the wiki. whois the developer?10:42
mptoh bother10:44
mpt(I misread some instructions about using citrain, and now … I have to reflash, I guess)10:45
popeystudio_: I guess we'll have to wait and see10:47
studio_popey, i am right now searching for a cheap bq E5 "HD" :) I thought it is EOL ...10:48
mpt“Failed to enter Recovery” \o/10:50
mptThis question may seem silly, but: Instead of saying “Expecting the device to be in the bootloader...waiting”, why doesn’t ubuntu-device flash just do an “adb reboot bootloader” itself?11:05
ogra_mpt, it does, doesnt it ? ... the message means "i'm waiting for it to show up in bootloader mode"11:08
ogra_if your screen was unlocked and you had developer mode enabled, it would have rebboted you into bootloader mode automatically11:09
mptogra_, if so, it’s a coincidence that twice now it has shown the FASTBOOT screen only after I entered “adb reboot bootloader” myself11:09
ogra_(at least that used to be the behavior, sergio is off this week to answer if that default changed ...)11:10
mptogra_, make that thrice now. I waited two minutes just to see if it would reboot by itself, and it didn’t. Should I report a bug?11:13
ogra_mpt, well, perhaps ask sergiusens first, might be that is desired behavior now, i didnt follow the changes in u-d-f so closely11:18
ogra_i know it used to reboot you automatically at some point11:18
ogra_(well, or just file it and let him close it then :) )11:18
mptEven if it shouldn’t, it could easily tell you *how* to enter the bootloader, so I’ll report a bug anyway11:19
ogra_good11:23
mpt(reported bug 1455050)11:23
ubot5bug 1455050 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) ""Expecting the device to be in the bootloader" isn't that helpful" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145505011:23
ogra_hmm, why does url-dispatcher in vivid suddenly append stuff to URLs ?11:25
* ogra_ cant open any websites anymore 11:25
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studio_back11:57
studio_popey, i've just seen it is john : https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E5/tree/aquaris-E5-ubuntu-master11:59
studio_hmm, the old price was 180 Euro in Germany for the E5 HD, but i was too late to buy it12:00
studio_wow, ÂŁ149.85 in the UK on Amazon (ASIN: B00M6WHN4G)?12:04
Stskeepsls12:06
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studio_what is needed to flash the E5 HD, Android-Version, to Ubuntu Touch, just the ERB1, MBR, Kernel, recovery.img and MT6582_Android_scatter.txt to flash the latest version via ubuntu-device-flash??12:26
studio_ok, a full image would be nice, but in the moment i can't find a full image ...12:28
popeymaybe ask bq if/when they plan to sell that device with ubuntu pre-installed12:29
popeyotherwise we'll end up wasting huge amounts of time with you here again as we did when you bought an android E4.512:29
studio_popey, i do not understand, did google ever made plan to sell their phones with ubuntu touch?12:33
popeyYes, I think you do understand.12:33
mptjgdxx, I just mailed you about the APN testing12:38
studio_you have flo, mako, manta, krillin, vegetahd and also arale in the https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/, sorry i really do not understand :(12:40
popeyflo, mako and manta were / are supported because there were no shipping devices in stores which run Ubuntu Touch.12:41
popeyThen companies like bq and meizu come along and ship devices with Ubuntu, so they get added to the server.12:41
popeyThey are the primary devices we support - the ones sold *with* *ubuntu* *pre-installed*.12:41
popeySure we can provide help for others.12:41
popeyBut every minute we spend helping people with devices they randomly bought hoping they can get it working, is less time spent on Ubuntu, convergence, new devices, snappy etc.12:42
popeyIt's also incredibly frustrating to have to go through the same questions multiple times with you.12:43
popeyAnd nobody really looks forward to doing that again with a new device really.12:43
studio_popey, i understood. but i was wondering, that there is still support for the google devices12:48
popeystudio_: not a lot of support.12:49
popeyShipping devices are the focus12:49
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liuxgjdstrand, ping12:52
jgdxxmpt, right.. error closed is due to the device locking. You can create /userdata/.adb_onlock to avoid this12:52
jgdxxmpt,12:53
mptjgdxx, is that what prevented the installation? Or was it the 404 Not Found? Or both?12:53
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studio_I do not like, when ppls here say i am talking "bad" about ubuntu touch, but i am also reading an viewing minds from other ppls about ut, and this video was right to the point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ws5TRXFkO812:54
jgdxxmpt, not sure, might have to $ sudo apt-get update12:55
jgdxxmpt, but you can use silo 36 now. There is a lot of docs for how to12:55
mptjgdxx, it was “sudo apt-get update” that triggered the 40412:56
jgdxxmpt, is the phone online? not sure why12:57
mptjgdxx, is <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/SiloTestingGuidelines#Where_can_I_find_details_of_the_Silo.3F> the appropriate instructions to follow?12:57
mptjgdxx, if it was an online/offline problem I would think it would be “hostname not found” or something, not a 40412:58
jgdxxmpt, im on a phone, ill have to get back to you in 30 mins12:58
mptok12:58
studio_popey, please watch that video. i am wrong?13:01
popeystudio_: I didn't say you were talking bad about ubuntu touch.13:02
studio_not you, but for exp. my "Guru"13:02
popeyyou're deviating from the point somewhat.13:04
studio_i am not "deviating" from the point. since one year it is known, that the E4.5 will come with UT.13:06
popeyright, and we support the ones that ship with ubuntu13:07
popeyif you buy one separately from ebay or whatever, running android, well, you're on your own a bit there13:07
popeywe can provide some help13:07
popeyand you have to admit we have provided you a LOT of help here13:07
studio_one year without  basic features is for consumers is "not so nice".13:08
popeyin fact I'd go as far as to say you are the single person in this channel who has consumed more help than anyone else in the last 3 months13:08
popeyOh, are you going to bring up gpg again?13:08
studio_no13:08
studio_please view the video13:08
popeyYou're not telling me anything we don't already know.13:09
popeyI've already seen it13:09
popeyhe's right about somethings and wrong about others13:09
popeyYou could say the same about _any_ review13:09
studio_he? ehm ...13:09
jgdxxmpt, yes, $ citrain device-upgrade # is the way to install a silo13:09
studio_popey, i think "he" is a women13:11
popeymaybe I'm mistaken, it doesn't matter.13:11
jgdxxmpt, not sure why apt's trying to fetch wily packages13:11
jgdxxmpt, and I'm using $ ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed --device krillin13:12
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jgdxthough, krillin.en seems recent enough13:14
jgdxmpt, do you have a shell on phone?13:15
mptjgdx, yes, but it’s easier to type on adb shell and has exactly the same effect, right?13:15
studio_popey, the point was, maybe i am wrong, why not "all manpower" is going into the bq E4.5, because this is the first "baby" from Canonical?13:15
popeyIt is the primary device studio_13:15
popeyits the device we do all testing on.13:16
popeyand as all devices are equal, they all get new features together13:16
jgdxmpt, adb shell has some weird stuff going on, but it works13:17
jgdxmpt, could you put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin somewhere?13:17
mptjgdx, you said silo 36? citrain tells me that the silo number must be from 1 to 20.13:17
studio_popey, what do mean with "all devices"?13:18
popeystudio_: the ubuntu layer is the same on all devices (nexus ones, bq ones, meizu ones, future ones)13:18
studio_that's what i mean, why google devices?13:19
popeyi already explained that13:19
popey13:41 < popey> flo, mako and manta were / are supported because there were no shipping devices in stores which run Ubuntu Touch.13:19
jgdxmpt, do you have the phablet tools ppa installed on your machine? Maybe you need to add it, which will upgrade the citrain tool.13:19
jgdxmpt, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools13:19
popeyit's near-zero effort to automatically spit out the images for mako when we do krillin13:19
studio_popey, there are more devices that can handle ut, but that is not the point13:20
mptjgdx, “W: Failed to fetch https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  HttpError404”13:21
popeystudio_: then i dont see your point13:21
studio_the point is, put all manpower to one or two device(s) what is an "official device"13:22
popeywe are13:23
popeybq and meizu devices are official devices13:23
studio_for the bq it is 14.xx and so many things are missing. for the meizu, what is it advantage?13:24
popeybq will move to 15.xx by the end of the month13:24
jgdxmpt, that url's wrong though13:24
popeymeizu isn't out yet13:24
studio_it is still not out, but what is it advantage?13:25
jgdxmpt, not sure how that was made.. this is the correct one http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages13:25
jgdxhow'd you add the ppa?13:25
mptjgdx, “sudo add-apt-repository  https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools”13:25
studio_if the meizu is using an MT6595, will it support the features from an MT6595?13:26
jgdxmpt, the command should be “sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools”13:26
jgdxmpt, and that could be the source of the 404s on the device as well13:27
popeystudio_: it's a different device, I'm sure a smart person like you can look it up13:28
mptjgdx, grrr, I used to have this PPA, but it was “disabled on upgrade to saucy”13:31
jgdxah13:35
jgdxabeato, nice work on nuntium :)13:36
mptjgdx, unfortunately, after adding that PPA and doing “sudo apt-get update”, apt-get upgrade still doesn’t mention phablet-tools13:36
abeatojgdx, actually a small change, but hey, those were my first go lines ;)13:37
studio_popey, i can't find any informations about the Meizu UT-OS, maybe UFO, but nothing about it features.13:38
popeystudio_: right, because it's not out yet13:38
popeystudio_: but it's the same software, different hardware.13:39
liuxgjdstrand, ping13:39
studio_the hardware, if the meizu is using an MT6595, is totally different13:40
jgdxmpt, apt-cache policy phablet-tools # will show you versions13:40
mptjgdx, I appear to have the latest version: 1.1+14.10.20141002-0ubuntu113:41
studio_the mt6595 is a sink-server for miracast13:41
mptjgdx, and that’s identified as being from the PPA13:41
popeympt: did you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and look for files called something.list which may have the ppa listed but commented out?13:41
popey(I have been bitten by that)13:41
NIN101can I switch the bq from stable to devel-proposed using "system-image-cli --switch devel-proposed"? If so, would this keep user data?13:42
mptpopey, phablet-team-tools-trusty.list has “deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu trusty main” uncommented13:43
popeyok13:44
jgdxmpt, indeed, seems like it's the latest.13:44
jgdxmpt, what's the citrain command you're running?13:44
studio_popey, have you seen that: http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?sort_by=certified&sort_order=desc&certifications=46&keywords=mediatek13:44
mptjgdx, so, back to shaving the previous yak, why is it telling me that silo 36 is too high a number…13:44
jgdxpopey, you know?13:45
jgdx^13:45
popeypass13:45
mptjgdx, “citrain device-upgrade 36”13:45
popeyask a ci expert :)13:45
popey-> #ubuntu-ci-eng13:45
popeystudio_: nope13:45
studio_check the first it is the MT659513:45
studio_Applications & ServicesMiracast - Source13:46
studio_Miracast - Display13:46
studio_so it can handle both13:47
popeystudio_: i look forward to seeing your miracast apps13:47
jgdxmpt, I have a date with a chain saw and a huge forest. Good luck with the yak13:49
studio_popey, i am still waiting for xmir ;)13:49
mptthanks jgdx13:49
jdstrandliuxg: hey13:50
mariogripawe: how to configure/build ofono for ubuntu touch (arm)?13:50
mariogripi got some changes i want to test13:50
liuxgjdstrand, hi, I just downloaded your permy app. it is very good. at one place, I did not quite understand, and I wrote you one email. I do not quite understand this "  "/opt/**.{apparmor,json}",13:51
liuxgjdstrand, does it mean all of the files understand the "opt" directory with the extension of "apparmor" and "json"?13:52
jdstrandliuxg: it is saying that permy is allowed to look at anything under /opt that ends with .json or .apparmor13:52
jdstrandin any subdirectory13:53
liuxgjdstrand, oh, I do not know the syntax for this. thanks for explanation. I looked at your code, it is not used anywhere. is it?13:53
studio_popey, btw, how do you store, all the logs on this chat, for research?13:54
popey!logs13:54
popeyhmm13:54
popeystupid bot13:54
popeyhttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/13:54
popeythey're there13:54
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jdstrandliuxg: what do you mean 'it is not used anywhere'? you mean, you feel permy doesn't actually need that read_path?13:55
awemariogrip, I'm just about to start a meeting ( that I lead ); can I get back to you when I finish up?13:56
mariogripawe: yeah, sure13:56
studio_popey, do you use a script with wget for http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ to dl ?13:56
liuxgjdstrand, no, I found that it was not referred in your code.  I saw "file:///var/lib/apparmor/clicks", the path is referred, but I do not see where the directory is needed.13:57
jdstrandliuxg: right. the files in file:///var/lib/apparmor/clicks are symlinks into the click database in /opt (or /custom, etc)13:57
popeystudio_: I don't, no.13:58
jdstrandliuxg: apparmor resolves symlinks (it has to for security reasons) so you need to specify the symlink target in the rules13:58
studio_popey, how can you research my old questions so fast?13:58
dobeyomg13:58
liuxgjdstrand, ok. I got you. thanks for that.13:58
liuxgjdstrand, now, I understand your code better :)13:59
popeystudio_: I have a good memory13:59
popeystudio_: you are quite memorable.13:59
kenvandinelol13:59
jdstrand:)13:59
studio_come on, how do you store that?14:00
popeyi am serious14:00
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studio_when i asked you about cifs and nfs, you just made an research and gave me one minute later my old request. how did you made that?14:02
mariogriphe uses magic ;D14:04
popeystudio_: http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shia-labeouf-magic-gif.gif14:05
kenvandinei'm more amazed by popey's ability to find gifs so quickly14:06
studio_popey, so you store all logs?14:06
dobeylol14:06
kenvandinecan't grep for gifs14:06
dobeyffs14:06
popeystudio_: my irc client store some, yeah14:07
mariogriphe has a secret quantum computer in his basement. :)14:09
popeys/quantum computer/hp microserver/14:09
studio_maybe i missed something, but was the video-player or gallery app fixed to not store videos on the phone when it was played from an otg device?14:10
dobeyi guess you would know if you tried the latest version14:10
dobeybut that's a thing with content hub and not the player or gallery, i think14:11
studio_dobey, i'd like to switch back from android to ubuntu-touch, but i am not sure if it is worth ...14:12
popeystudio_: only you can decide that14:14
dobeythen use both, and make that determination for yourself. or don't. if there are specific bugs you want to follow, that will determine that for you, then go subscribe to the bugs on launchpad14:14
* popey hugs blaroche14:14
studio_the bq E4.5 is my only touch phone, if i can get a E5 HD for a low price, it would be nice for "playing" ..14:14
dobeyif there is no bug report, i can guarantee it won't be fixed though14:14
* blaroche blushes14:15
studio_c14:17
studio_dobey, should every bq E4.5-User make a bug-report?14:18
popeynope14:19
popeythat's just one option14:19
dobeyif they encounter bugs, yes; contact bq support and have bq make the bug, or make the bug themselves if they are more technical users and want to follow status.14:19
studio_dobey, i was reading, tht a german user, is still having this problem with multi-booting from two up to ten times. and he's only a "user"14:20
dobeyi don't know what you mean by multi-booting.14:20
dobeyand i don't see how that is relevant to you caring about some other bug, which i guess you didn't report14:21
popeystudio_: we don't ship multi-boot devices14:22
popeystudio_: i a user is clever enough to be multi-booting, they're clever enough to file a bug14:22
popeyif they don't file a bug, then they're probably lazy and I frankly don't care :)14:22
liuxgis there anyway to fix the orientation of the QML app in Ubuntu phone?14:22
studio_popey, i understood "when they don not file a bug", because i am here an i am not a normal end user14:25
popeythere is no such thing as a "normal user"14:26
studio_popey, have you ever bought a thing online that is not working? if yes, what did you made?14:27
studio_sent back?14:28
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popeyI buy lots of things online, some work, some don't. Reactions differ.14:28
popeystudio_: how did this german user buy ubuntu phone dual boot? bq don't sell those.14:29
davmor2popey: I think what you meant to say was <marvin> "A brain the size of a planet, and they have me watching irc" </marvin>14:30
studio_popey, he do not use dual booting! The original os is booting up to ten times14:30
popeystudio_: did I misunderstand "multi-booting"?14:30
studio_no multi-boot, original os!14:31
popeystudio_: I am sorry14:31
popeystudio_: phone bq14:31
studio_yes14:31
popeyThat's the support channel. Call BQ, ask for support.14:31
popeyThey file bugs with us when they get customer calls.14:31
popeyWe read them, we fix them, their customers get the updates.14:31
studio_i know that bug, but i thought it was fixed ...14:32
studio_so i built the kernel for the E5 HD and the Ubuntu-MT6582_Android_scatter.txt is diffrerent to the Android-MT6582_Android_scatter.txt14:41
studio_same as on the bq E4.5 :)14:41
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NIN101somehow, latest images of devel-proposed im emulator don't acccept clicks after the first boot settings. is this a known issue?14:44
awemariogrip, still there?15:04
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mariogripawe, jup :)15:16
SnyperskywalkerHi !15:18
SnyperskywalkerCan someone help me to begin a porting ?15:19
awemariogrip, hey...just got off the phone;15:22
mariogripSnyperskywalker: what you need help with? have you tried this? https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/15:22
awedid you get anywhere with trying to build ofono15:22
aweif you hadn't found it, this is a good page of reference re: ofono vcs & touch:15:22
SnyperskywalkerYes i saw the doc but i'm stuck15:22
awemariogrip, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Telephony/ofono15:23
aweas for building, it requires bzr builddeb15:23
aweand I either build locally using sbuild: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CrossCompile15:23
aweor I build a source package and push to a PPA15:23
aweoccasionally, I'll build packages on phones directly, but as I'm constantly re-flashing, that can be painful too to install all the deps15:24
SnyperskywalkerI don't understood how to create my files in the device file15:24
SnyperskywalkerAnd i have been searching for 2 days -_-15:25
mariogripawe, yeah i was thinking about building it directly on the phone15:25
awedo you have a PPA?15:26
SnyperskywalkerWhat it's possible ?15:26
SnyperskywalkerNo i don't have because i havn't create any file15:26
awemariogrip, if you build on the phone, you just need to get all the deps installed.  abeato for instance, does native builds ( ./configure; make ) all the time15:27
aweI tend to always do full pkg builds15:27
aweyou can argue the merits of both approaches.  ;)-15:27
abeatomariogrip, yep, you just need to do "apt-get build-dep ofono" previously15:27
awelet me know if you have any trouble with building on the phone.  I'm heading out in about 30m, but will be back later15:28
Snyperskywalkerawe we can build ubuntu-touch directly on the phone ?15:28
aweno15:28
aweI'm talking about building individual debian packages15:28
SnyperskywalkerOh ok -_-15:28
awespecifically, ofono15:28
mariogripawe: thanks, i will give it a try. :)15:28
awenp15:28
mariogripSnyperskywalker: what files did not get created?15:28
mariogripwhen you builds your port15:29
Snyperskywalkermariogrip: i have just download the env15:29
Snyperskywalkerdownloaded15:29
Snyperskywalkerand now i don't know what i have to do15:30
mariogripdid you fully download the android tree?15:31
Snyperskywalkeryep :)15:32
mariogripwhat device are you porting to?15:32
SnyperskywalkerThe wiko darkside15:33
mariogripdid you add all the device specific git repositories?15:34
mariogripand vendor files?15:34
mariogriplike example this: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_lge_mako (that is for mako device)15:35
SnyperskywalkerI don't know how to have this it's my problem :)15:35
Snyperskywalker^^15:35
mariogripdoes the device have a cyanogemod port?15:35
Snyperskywalkerno :'(15:36
mariogripdoes it have an opensource rom to it somewhere?15:37
SnyperskywalkerI just found the kernel of the device in the official ebsite15:37
Snyperskywalkerbut the rom15:37
Snyperskywalker...15:37
Snyperskywalkermariogrip: i can have a rom whick look like my rom's device but i don't know if i will be work15:42
Snyperskywalkerthis one : https://github.com/chrmhoffmann/android_device_wiko_stairway15:42
Snyperskywalkerwhat i have to do with that ?15:43
mariogripthat might work, but you might need to do a lot of changes.15:44
mariogriptry adding that into the android tree15:45
mariogripthis is an good guide: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro15:45
Snyperskywalkerok thanks15:45
Snyperskywalkerand now i can build ?15:46
Snyperskywalkerfor test ?15:46
Snyperskywalkerto test *15:46
mariogripyou probably need vendor files also15:47
mariogripbut it should talk about that in the guide15:47
Snyperskywalkerwhere can i found the vendor files ?15:48
mariogripyou have to extract theme from the device15:49
mariogripthem*15:49
mariogripdid you add the device_wiko into your local_manifests?15:50
Snyperskywalkeryep :)15:50
mariogripand did you do a repo sync?15:50
Snyperskywalkeryes15:50
mariogripokay :)15:50
SnyperskywalkerWhere are they in the device ?15:50
Snyperskywalkeroh it's in the manual15:51
mariogripdo you mean the vendor files?15:51
Snyperskywalkeryes15:52
mariogripuse the extract-files.sh tool to extract them15:56
mariogriphttps://github.com/chrmhoffmann/android_device_wiko_stairway/blob/cm-11.0/extract-files.sh15:56
Snyperskywalkerthanks ;)15:58
mariogrip:)16:00
jgdxmpt, how'd it go?17:05
jgdxbeuno, hi, the ubuntu start page17:07
jgdxbeuno, any movement on that? :)17:08
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dadexix86hi! bq device, r22. sometimes when I receive multiple messages on telegram the phone starts vibrating for a long time. Does it happen to someone else?21:12
brunch875it's a known bug!21:37
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popeydadexix86: yeah21:48
popeyit's because the phone goes back to sleep really soon after the motor starts, and it doesn't get a chance to turn off21:49
popeyif you wake the phone it turns off21:49
popeyno good if it's in your bag though21:49
dadexix86brunch875, popey thanks :)21:51
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JackHhey how do I uninstall some of the preinstalled apps on the ubuntu phone?22:25
JackHI have bash installed22:26
JackHbut I am not sure what to type/run to remove the applications correctly22:26
JackHfor example, ebay, never use it, never will.22:26
cwayne_JackH, ebay isn't actually installed on the device, it's a remote scope that lives on a server22:30
JackHcwaye, I still want to get rid of that icon ;)22:30
JackHor, Cinco Dias22:30
JackHor El Pais22:30
cwayne_JackH, for a lot of those, check out /custom/click, that's where they live22:31
JackHhmm, I am not familiar with /custom/click ?22:31
cwayne_i think you can uninstall them by going to the store scope22:31
JackHI am in there now, cant find any uninstall option22:31
JackHin general, I am looking for customization option and I cant find any info anywhere. how do I set my scopes, and remove scopes and add stuff in general to my general overview. seems like everything is stuck in a certain way22:36
nhainesAdd and remove scopes in the Ubuntu App Store.22:37
nhainesCustomize your scopes by swiping up on the Dash.22:38
nhainesTapping on the star to the right of a scope will favorite or unfavorite a scope, and long-pressing anywhere on the Scope customization screen will let you reorganize your favorite scopes.22:38
dobeycwayne_: the ebay webapp is an app22:48
dobeyJackH: just long press on the app icon in the apps scope. you'll get the preview and then you can tap on "Uninstall" there, to uninstall an app22:48
dobeyor if you go to the store scope and search for the installed app, you can tap on it in there to get the preview, and then uninstall it22:49
dobeyanyway, i am now gone. later :)22:50
JackHyay works22:56
nhaines\o/23:04
JackHwe need more apps and scopes23:04
nhainesWouldn't hurt!23:07
JackHany way to hack viber into this thing btw?23:07
JackHor some other android apps?23:07
nhainesIt'd probably take half a year and a small development team working constantly, and it'd break any time Android changed and the apps updated.23:08
nhainesPlus there'd be no store and anything using Google Play Services wouldn't work.23:08
nhainesIt'll be interesting how that works out for Microsoft and Windows 10 Mobile.23:08
JackHyeah I was thinking exactly that23:08
JackHit was quite the statement23:09
nhainesAnyone writing a Windows Universal App is basically using HTML5 and Javascript and Cordova, and that's super easy to bring to Ubuntu (it's 90% of the way there already) so that might be a good development for Ubuntu.23:09

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