[06:51] <up-user> hello. how can I delete one / all calls on the call list?
[07:23] <bqphone> good morning
[07:23] <bqphone> yesterday my ubuntu phone got an update, is there a way to see what did exactly updated? is it posted somewhere?
[07:41] <diplo> bqphone: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/ota-3.5.changelog
[07:46] <bqphone> thx mate
[08:34] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Golf Day! 😃
[09:28] <mpt> Is there any easy way to compare the phone language packs for two languages (e.g. en_ZM vs. en_ZW)?
[09:28] <mpt> To see how the translations differ
[09:30] <seb128> mpt, you want to compare specific strings?
[09:31] <mpt> seb128, no, I want to see *all* the strings that are different
[09:32] <seb128> mpt, I don't think there is an easy way to do that
[09:36] <seb128> mpt, you can "msgunfmt /usr/share/locale-langpack/<locale>/LC_MESSAGES/*" to get the list of strings for <locale>
[09:37] <seb128> mpt, so you can > log_en_GB for example and do the same on another locale and diff those files
[09:37] <mpt> Ah, neat
[09:37] <seb128> but the strings are not going to be always in the same order and headers change
[09:37] <seb128> so it's not as clean as "just show the difference"
[09:37] <seb128> but it can help you having an idea
[09:37] <seb128> otherwise you need more script, e.g using python
[09:42] <seb128> use "-s" with msgunfmt to sort the output, it should help diff to have similar context
[10:22] <studio_> hi
[10:23] <studio_> since when do you support the bq Aquaris E5 HD? btw, big thanks :)
[10:36] <popey> studio_: we don't
[10:38] <studio_> https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en/
[10:39] <studio_> vegetahd
[10:39] <studio_> that is the "E5 HD"
[10:41] <popey> well, that says 13 may
[10:42] <studio_> but it is not listed in the wiki. whois the developer?
[10:44] <mpt> oh bother
[10:45] <mpt> (I misread some instructions about using citrain, and now … I have to reflash, I guess)
[10:47] <popey> studio_: I guess we'll have to wait and see
[10:48] <studio_> popey, i am right now searching for a cheap bq E5 "HD" :) I thought it is EOL ...
[10:50] <mpt> “Failed to enter Recovery” \o/
[11:05] <mpt> This question may seem silly, but: Instead of saying “Expecting the device to be in the bootloader...waiting”, why doesn’t ubuntu-device flash just do an “adb reboot bootloader” itself?
[11:08] <ogra_> mpt, it does, doesnt it ? ... the message means "i'm waiting for it to show up in bootloader mode"
[11:09] <ogra_> if your screen was unlocked and you had developer mode enabled, it would have rebboted you into bootloader mode automatically
[11:09] <mpt> ogra_, if so, it’s a coincidence that twice now it has shown the FASTBOOT screen only after I entered “adb reboot bootloader” myself
[11:10] <ogra_> (at least that used to be the behavior, sergio is off this week to answer if that default changed ...)
[11:13] <mpt> ogra_, make that thrice now. I waited two minutes just to see if it would reboot by itself, and it didn’t. Should I report a bug?
[11:18] <ogra_> mpt, well, perhaps ask sergiusens first, might be that is desired behavior now, i didnt follow the changes in u-d-f so closely
[11:18] <ogra_> i know it used to reboot you automatically at some point
[11:18] <ogra_> (well, or just file it and let him close it then :) )
[11:19] <mpt> Even if it shouldn’t, it could easily tell you *how* to enter the bootloader, so I’ll report a bug anyway
[11:23] <ogra_> good
[11:23] <mpt> (reported bug 1455050)
[11:25] <ogra_> hmm, why does url-dispatcher in vivid suddenly append stuff to URLs ?
[11:25]  * ogra_ cant open any websites anymore 
[11:57] <studio_> back
[11:59] <studio_> popey, i've just seen it is john : https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E5/tree/aquaris-E5-ubuntu-master
[12:00] <studio_> hmm, the old price was 180 Euro in Germany for the E5 HD, but i was too late to buy it
[12:04] <studio_> wow, £149.85 in the UK on Amazon (ASIN: B00M6WHN4G)?
[12:06] <Stskeeps> ls
[12:26] <studio_> what is needed to flash the E5 HD, Android-Version, to Ubuntu Touch, just the ERB1, MBR, Kernel, recovery.img and MT6582_Android_scatter.txt to flash the latest version via ubuntu-device-flash??
[12:28] <studio_> ok, a full image would be nice, but in the moment i can't find a full image ...
[12:29] <popey> maybe ask bq if/when they plan to sell that device with ubuntu pre-installed
[12:29] <popey> otherwise we'll end up wasting huge amounts of time with you here again as we did when you bought an android E4.5
[12:33] <studio_> popey, i do not understand, did google ever made plan to sell their phones with ubuntu touch?
[12:33] <popey> Yes, I think you do understand.
[12:38] <mpt> jgdxx, I just mailed you about the APN testing
[12:40] <studio_> you have flo, mako, manta, krillin, vegetahd and also arale in the https://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/, sorry i really do not understand :(
[12:41] <popey> flo, mako and manta were / are supported because there were no shipping devices in stores which run Ubuntu Touch.
[12:41] <popey> Then companies like bq and meizu come along and ship devices with Ubuntu, so they get added to the server.
[12:41] <popey> They are the primary devices we support - the ones sold *with* *ubuntu* *pre-installed*.
[12:41] <popey> Sure we can provide help for others.
[12:42] <popey> But every minute we spend helping people with devices they randomly bought hoping they can get it working, is less time spent on Ubuntu, convergence, new devices, snappy etc.
[12:43] <popey> It's also incredibly frustrating to have to go through the same questions multiple times with you.
[12:43] <popey> And nobody really looks forward to doing that again with a new device really.
[12:48] <studio_> popey, i understood. but i was wondering, that there is still support for the google devices
[12:49] <popey> studio_: not a lot of support.
[12:49] <popey> Shipping devices are the focus
[12:52] <liuxg> jdstrand, ping
[12:52] <jgdxx> mpt, right.. error closed is due to the device locking. You can create /userdata/.adb_onlock to avoid this
[12:53] <jgdxx> mpt,
[12:53] <mpt> jgdxx, is that what prevented the installation? Or was it the 404 Not Found? Or both?
[12:54] <studio_> I do not like, when ppls here say i am talking "bad" about ubuntu touch, but i am also reading an viewing minds from other ppls about ut, and this video was right to the point: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ws5TRXFkO8
[12:55] <jgdxx> mpt, not sure, might have to $ sudo apt-get update
[12:55] <jgdxx> mpt, but you can use silo 36 now. There is a lot of docs for how to
[12:56] <mpt> jgdxx, it was “sudo apt-get update” that triggered the 404
[12:57] <jgdxx> mpt, is the phone online? not sure why
[12:57] <mpt> jgdxx, is <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LandingTeam/SiloTestingGuidelines#Where_can_I_find_details_of_the_Silo.3F> the appropriate instructions to follow?
[12:58] <mpt> jgdxx, if it was an online/offline problem I would think it would be “hostname not found” or something, not a 404
[12:58] <jgdxx> mpt, im on a phone, ill have to get back to you in 30 mins
[12:58] <mpt> ok
[13:01] <studio_> popey, please watch that video. i am wrong?
[13:02] <popey> studio_: I didn't say you were talking bad about ubuntu touch.
[13:02] <studio_> not you, but for exp. my "Guru"
[13:04] <popey> you're deviating from the point somewhat.
[13:06] <studio_> i am not "deviating" from the point. since one year it is known, that the E4.5 will come with UT.
[13:07] <popey> right, and we support the ones that ship with ubuntu
[13:07] <popey> if you buy one separately from ebay or whatever, running android, well, you're on your own a bit there
[13:07] <popey> we can provide some help
[13:07] <popey> and you have to admit we have provided you a LOT of help here
[13:08] <studio_> one year without  basic features is for consumers is "not so nice".
[13:08] <popey> in fact I'd go as far as to say you are the single person in this channel who has consumed more help than anyone else in the last 3 months
[13:08] <popey> Oh, are you going to bring up gpg again?
[13:08] <studio_> no
[13:08] <studio_> please view the video
[13:09] <popey> You're not telling me anything we don't already know.
[13:09] <popey> I've already seen it
[13:09] <popey> he's right about somethings and wrong about others
[13:09] <popey> You could say the same about _any_ review
[13:09] <studio_> he? ehm ...
[13:09] <jgdxx> mpt, yes, $ citrain device-upgrade # is the way to install a silo
[13:11] <studio_> popey, i think "he" is a women
[13:11] <popey> maybe I'm mistaken, it doesn't matter.
[13:11] <jgdxx> mpt, not sure why apt's trying to fetch wily packages
[13:12] <jgdxx> mpt, and I'm using $ ubuntu-device-flash touch --channel=ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed --device krillin
[13:14] <jgdx> though, krillin.en seems recent enough
[13:15] <jgdx> mpt, do you have a shell on phone?
[13:15] <mpt> jgdx, yes, but it’s easier to type on adb shell and has exactly the same effect, right?
[13:15] <studio_> popey, the point was, maybe i am wrong, why not "all manpower" is going into the bq E4.5, because this is the first "baby" from Canonical?
[13:15] <popey> It is the primary device studio_
[13:16] <popey> its the device we do all testing on.
[13:16] <popey> and as all devices are equal, they all get new features together
[13:17] <jgdx> mpt, adb shell has some weird stuff going on, but it works
[13:17] <jgdx> mpt, could you put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on a pastebin somewhere?
[13:17] <mpt> jgdx, you said silo 36? citrain tells me that the silo number must be from 1 to 20.
[13:18] <studio_> popey, what do mean with "all devices"?
[13:18] <popey> studio_: the ubuntu layer is the same on all devices (nexus ones, bq ones, meizu ones, future ones)
[13:19] <studio_> that's what i mean, why google devices?
[13:19] <popey> i already explained that
[13:19] <popey> 13:41 < popey> flo, mako and manta were / are supported because there were no shipping devices in stores which run Ubuntu Touch.
[13:19] <jgdx> mpt, do you have the phablet tools ppa installed on your machine? Maybe you need to add it, which will upgrade the citrain tool.
[13:19] <jgdx> mpt, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools
[13:19] <popey> it's near-zero effort to automatically spit out the images for mako when we do krillin
[13:20] <studio_> popey, there are more devices that can handle ut, but that is not the point
[13:21] <mpt> jgdx, “W: Failed to fetch https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  HttpError404”
[13:21] <popey> studio_: then i dont see your point
[13:22] <studio_> the point is, put all manpower to one or two device(s) what is an "official device"
[13:23] <popey> we are
[13:23] <popey> bq and meizu devices are official devices
[13:24] <studio_> for the bq it is 14.xx and so many things are missing. for the meizu, what is it advantage?
[13:24] <popey> bq will move to 15.xx by the end of the month
[13:24] <jgdx> mpt, that url's wrong though
[13:24] <popey> meizu isn't out yet
[13:25] <studio_> it is still not out, but what is it advantage?
[13:25] <jgdx> mpt, not sure how that was made.. this is the correct one http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages
[13:25] <jgdx> how'd you add the ppa?
[13:25] <mpt> jgdx, “sudo add-apt-repository  https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools”
[13:26] <studio_> if the meizu is using an MT6595, will it support the features from an MT6595?
[13:26] <jgdx> mpt, the command should be “sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools”
[13:27] <jgdx> mpt, and that could be the source of the 404s on the device as well
[13:28] <popey> studio_: it's a different device, I'm sure a smart person like you can look it up
[13:31] <mpt> jgdx, grrr, I used to have this PPA, but it was “disabled on upgrade to saucy”
[13:35] <jgdx> ah
[13:36] <jgdx> abeato, nice work on nuntium :)
[13:36] <mpt> jgdx, unfortunately, after adding that PPA and doing “sudo apt-get update”, apt-get upgrade still doesn’t mention phablet-tools
[13:37] <abeato> jgdx, actually a small change, but hey, those were my first go lines ;)
[13:38] <studio_> popey, i can't find any informations about the Meizu UT-OS, maybe UFO, but nothing about it features.
[13:38] <popey> studio_: right, because it's not out yet
[13:39] <popey> studio_: but it's the same software, different hardware.
[13:39] <liuxg> jdstrand, ping
[13:40] <studio_> the hardware, if the meizu is using an MT6595, is totally different
[13:40] <jgdx> mpt, apt-cache policy phablet-tools # will show you versions
[13:41] <mpt> jgdx, I appear to have the latest version: 1.1+14.10.20141002-0ubuntu1
[13:41] <studio_> the mt6595 is a sink-server for miracast
[13:41] <mpt> jgdx, and that’s identified as being from the PPA
[13:41] <popey> mpt: did you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and look for files called something.list which may have the ppa listed but commented out?
[13:41] <popey> (I have been bitten by that)
[13:42] <NIN101> can I switch the bq from stable to devel-proposed using "system-image-cli --switch devel-proposed"? If so, would this keep user data?
[13:43] <mpt> popey, phablet-team-tools-trusty.list has “deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/phablet-team/tools/ubuntu trusty main” uncommented
[13:44] <popey> ok
[13:44] <jgdx> mpt, indeed, seems like it's the latest.
[13:44] <jgdx> mpt, what's the citrain command you're running?
[13:44] <studio_> popey, have you seen that: http://www.wi-fi.org/product-finder-results?sort_by=certified&sort_order=desc&certifications=46&keywords=mediatek
[13:44] <mpt> jgdx, so, back to shaving the previous yak, why is it telling me that silo 36 is too high a number…
[13:45] <jgdx> popey, you know?
[13:45] <jgdx> ^
[13:45] <popey> pass
[13:45] <mpt> jgdx, “citrain device-upgrade 36”
[13:45] <popey> ask a ci expert :)
[13:45] <popey> -> #ubuntu-ci-eng
[13:45] <popey> studio_: nope
[13:45] <studio_> check the first it is the MT6595
[13:46] <studio_> Applications & Services	Miracast - Source
[13:46] <studio_> Miracast - Display
[13:47] <studio_> so it can handle both
[13:47] <popey> studio_: i look forward to seeing your miracast apps
[13:49] <jgdx> mpt, I have a date with a chain saw and a huge forest. Good luck with the yak
[13:49] <studio_> popey, i am still waiting for xmir ;)
[13:49] <mpt> thanks jgdx
[13:50] <jdstrand> liuxg: hey
[13:50] <mariogrip> awe: how to configure/build ofono for ubuntu touch (arm)?
[13:50] <mariogrip> i got some changes i want to test
[13:51] <liuxg> jdstrand, hi, I just downloaded your permy app. it is very good. at one place, I did not quite understand, and I wrote you one email. I do not quite understand this "  "/opt/**.{apparmor,json}",
[13:52] <liuxg> jdstrand, does it mean all of the files understand the "opt" directory with the extension of "apparmor" and "json"?
[13:52] <jdstrand> liuxg: it is saying that permy is allowed to look at anything under /opt that ends with .json or .apparmor
[13:53] <jdstrand> in any subdirectory
[13:53] <liuxg> jdstrand, oh, I do not know the syntax for this. thanks for explanation. I looked at your code, it is not used anywhere. is it?
[13:54] <studio_> popey, btw, how do you store, all the logs on this chat, for research?
[13:54] <popey> !logs
[13:54] <popey> hmm
[13:54] <popey> stupid bot
[13:54] <popey> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[13:54] <popey> they're there
[13:55] <jdstrand> liuxg: what do you mean 'it is not used anywhere'? you mean, you feel permy doesn't actually need that read_path?
[13:56] <awe> mariogrip, I'm just about to start a meeting ( that I lead ); can I get back to you when I finish up?
[13:56] <mariogrip> awe: yeah, sure
[13:56] <studio_> popey, do you use a script with wget for http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ to dl ?
[13:57] <liuxg> jdstrand, no, I found that it was not referred in your code.  I saw "file:///var/lib/apparmor/clicks", the path is referred, but I do not see where the directory is needed.
[13:57] <jdstrand> liuxg: right. the files in file:///var/lib/apparmor/clicks are symlinks into the click database in /opt (or /custom, etc)
[13:58] <popey> studio_: I don't, no.
[13:58] <jdstrand> liuxg: apparmor resolves symlinks (it has to for security reasons) so you need to specify the symlink target in the rules
[13:58] <studio_> popey, how can you research my old questions so fast?
[13:58] <dobey> omg
[13:58] <liuxg> jdstrand, ok. I got you. thanks for that.
[13:59] <liuxg> jdstrand, now, I understand your code better :)
[13:59] <popey> studio_: I have a good memory
[13:59] <popey> studio_: you are quite memorable.
[13:59] <kenvandine> lol
[13:59] <jdstrand> :)
[14:00] <studio_> come on, how do you store that?
[14:00] <popey> i am serious
[14:02] <studio_> when i asked you about cifs and nfs, you just made an research and gave me one minute later my old request. how did you made that?
[14:04] <mariogrip> he uses magic ;D
[14:05] <popey> studio_: http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/shia-labeouf-magic-gif.gif
[14:06] <kenvandine> i'm more amazed by popey's ability to find gifs so quickly
[14:06] <studio_> popey, so you store all logs?
[14:06] <dobey> lol
[14:06] <kenvandine> can't grep for gifs
[14:06] <dobey> ffs
[14:07] <popey> studio_: my irc client store some, yeah
[14:09] <mariogrip> he has a secret quantum computer in his basement. :)
[14:09] <popey> s/quantum computer/hp microserver/
[14:10] <studio_> maybe i missed something, but was the video-player or gallery app fixed to not store videos on the phone when it was played from an otg device?
[14:10] <dobey> i guess you would know if you tried the latest version
[14:11] <dobey> but that's a thing with content hub and not the player or gallery, i think
[14:12] <studio_> dobey, i'd like to switch back from android to ubuntu-touch, but i am not sure if it is worth ...
[14:14] <popey> studio_: only you can decide that
[14:14] <dobey> then use both, and make that determination for yourself. or don't. if there are specific bugs you want to follow, that will determine that for you, then go subscribe to the bugs on launchpad
[14:14]  * popey hugs blaroche
[14:14] <studio_> the bq E4.5 is my only touch phone, if i can get a E5 HD for a low price, it would be nice for "playing" ..
[14:14] <dobey> if there is no bug report, i can guarantee it won't be fixed though
[14:15]  * blaroche blushes
[14:17] <studio_> c
[14:18] <studio_> dobey, should every bq E4.5-User make a bug-report?
[14:19] <popey> nope
[14:19] <popey> that's just one option
[14:19] <dobey> if they encounter bugs, yes; contact bq support and have bq make the bug, or make the bug themselves if they are more technical users and want to follow status.
[14:20] <studio_> dobey, i was reading, tht a german user, is still having this problem with multi-booting from two up to ten times. and he's only a "user"
[14:20] <dobey> i don't know what you mean by multi-booting.
[14:21] <dobey> and i don't see how that is relevant to you caring about some other bug, which i guess you didn't report
[14:22] <popey> studio_: we don't ship multi-boot devices
[14:22] <popey> studio_: i a user is clever enough to be multi-booting, they're clever enough to file a bug
[14:22] <popey> if they don't file a bug, then they're probably lazy and I frankly don't care :)
[14:22] <liuxg> is there anyway to fix the orientation of the QML app in Ubuntu phone?
[14:25] <studio_> popey, i understood "when they don not file a bug", because i am here an i am not a normal end user
[14:26] <popey> there is no such thing as a "normal user"
[14:27] <studio_> popey, have you ever bought a thing online that is not working? if yes, what did you made?
[14:28] <studio_> sent back?
[14:28] <popey> I buy lots of things online, some work, some don't. Reactions differ.
[14:29] <popey> studio_: how did this german user buy ubuntu phone dual boot? bq don't sell those.
[14:30] <davmor2> popey: I think what you meant to say was <marvin> "A brain the size of a planet, and they have me watching irc" </marvin>
[14:30] <studio_> popey, he do not use dual booting! The original os is booting up to ten times
[14:30] <popey> studio_: did I misunderstand "multi-booting"?
[14:31] <studio_> no multi-boot, original os!
[14:31] <popey> studio_: I am sorry
[14:31] <popey> studio_: phone bq
[14:31] <studio_> yes
[14:31] <popey> That's the support channel. Call BQ, ask for support.
[14:31] <popey> They file bugs with us when they get customer calls.
[14:31] <popey> We read them, we fix them, their customers get the updates.
[14:32] <studio_> i know that bug, but i thought it was fixed ...
[14:41] <studio_> so i built the kernel for the E5 HD and the Ubuntu-MT6582_Android_scatter.txt is diffrerent to the Android-MT6582_Android_scatter.txt
[14:41] <studio_> same as on the bq E4.5 :)
[14:44] <NIN101> somehow, latest images of devel-proposed im emulator don't acccept clicks after the first boot settings. is this a known issue?
[15:04] <awe> mariogrip, still there?
[15:16] <mariogrip> awe, jup :)
[15:18] <Snyperskywalker> Hi !
[15:19] <Snyperskywalker> Can someone help me to begin a porting ?
[15:22] <awe> mariogrip, hey...just got off the phone;
[15:22] <mariogrip> Snyperskywalker: what you need help with? have you tried this? https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/porting-new-device/
[15:22] <awe> did you get anywhere with trying to build ofono
[15:22] <awe> if you hadn't found it, this is a good page of reference re: ofono vcs & touch:
[15:22] <Snyperskywalker> Yes i saw the doc but i'm stuck
[15:23] <awe> mariogrip, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Telephony/ofono
[15:23] <awe> as for building, it requires bzr builddeb
[15:23] <awe> and I either build locally using sbuild: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CrossCompile
[15:23] <awe> or I build a source package and push to a PPA
[15:24] <awe> occasionally, I'll build packages on phones directly, but as I'm constantly re-flashing, that can be painful too to install all the deps
[15:24] <Snyperskywalker> I don't understood how to create my files in the device file
[15:25] <Snyperskywalker> And i have been searching for 2 days -_-
[15:25] <mariogrip> awe, yeah i was thinking about building it directly on the phone
[15:26] <awe> do you have a PPA?
[15:26] <Snyperskywalker> What it's possible ?
[15:26] <Snyperskywalker> No i don't have because i havn't create any file
[15:27] <awe> mariogrip, if you build on the phone, you just need to get all the deps installed.  abeato for instance, does native builds ( ./configure; make ) all the time
[15:27] <awe> I tend to always do full pkg builds
[15:27] <awe> you can argue the merits of both approaches.  ;)-
[15:27] <abeato> mariogrip, yep, you just need to do "apt-get build-dep ofono" previously
[15:28] <awe> let me know if you have any trouble with building on the phone.  I'm heading out in about 30m, but will be back later
[15:28] <Snyperskywalker> awe we can build ubuntu-touch directly on the phone ?
[15:28] <awe> no
[15:28] <awe> I'm talking about building individual debian packages
[15:28] <Snyperskywalker> Oh ok -_-
[15:28] <awe> specifically, ofono
[15:28] <mariogrip> awe: thanks, i will give it a try. :)
[15:28] <awe> np
[15:28] <mariogrip> Snyperskywalker: what files did not get created?
[15:29] <mariogrip> when you builds your port
[15:29] <Snyperskywalker> mariogrip: i have just download the env
[15:29] <Snyperskywalker> downloaded
[15:30] <Snyperskywalker> and now i don't know what i have to do
[15:31] <mariogrip> did you fully download the android tree?
[15:32] <Snyperskywalker> yep :)
[15:32] <mariogrip> what device are you porting to?
[15:33] <Snyperskywalker> The wiko darkside
[15:34] <mariogrip> did you add all the device specific git repositories?
[15:34] <mariogrip> and vendor files?
[15:35] <mariogrip> like example this: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_lge_mako (that is for mako device)
[15:35] <Snyperskywalker> I don't know how to have this it's my problem :)
[15:35] <Snyperskywalker> ^^
[15:35] <mariogrip> does the device have a cyanogemod port?
[15:36] <Snyperskywalker> no :'(
[15:37] <mariogrip> does it have an opensource rom to it somewhere?
[15:37] <Snyperskywalker> I just found the kernel of the device in the official ebsite
[15:37] <Snyperskywalker> but the rom
[15:37] <Snyperskywalker> ...
[15:42] <Snyperskywalker> mariogrip: i can have a rom whick look like my rom's device but i don't know if i will be work
[15:42] <Snyperskywalker> this one : https://github.com/chrmhoffmann/android_device_wiko_stairway
[15:43] <Snyperskywalker> what i have to do with that ?
[15:44] <mariogrip> that might work, but you might need to do a lot of changes.
[15:45] <mariogrip> try adding that into the android tree
[15:45] <mariogrip> this is an good guide: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
[15:45] <Snyperskywalker> ok thanks
[15:46] <Snyperskywalker> and now i can build ?
[15:46] <Snyperskywalker> for test ?
[15:46] <Snyperskywalker> to test *
[15:47] <mariogrip> you probably need vendor files also
[15:47] <mariogrip> but it should talk about that in the guide
[15:48] <Snyperskywalker> where can i found the vendor files ?
[15:49] <mariogrip> you have to extract theme from the device
[15:49] <mariogrip> them*
[15:50] <mariogrip> did you add the device_wiko into your local_manifests?
[15:50] <Snyperskywalker> yep :)
[15:50] <mariogrip> and did you do a repo sync?
[15:50] <Snyperskywalker> yes
[15:50] <mariogrip> okay :)
[15:50] <Snyperskywalker> Where are they in the device ?
[15:51] <Snyperskywalker> oh it's in the manual
[15:51] <mariogrip> do you mean the vendor files?
[15:52] <Snyperskywalker> yes
[15:56] <mariogrip> use the extract-files.sh tool to extract them
[15:56] <mariogrip> https://github.com/chrmhoffmann/android_device_wiko_stairway/blob/cm-11.0/extract-files.sh
[15:58] <Snyperskywalker> thanks ;)
[16:00] <mariogrip> :)
[17:05] <jgdx> mpt, how'd it go?
[17:07] <jgdx> beuno, hi, the ubuntu start page
[17:08] <jgdx> beuno, any movement on that? :)
[21:12] <dadexix86> hi! bq device, r22. sometimes when I receive multiple messages on telegram the phone starts vibrating for a long time. Does it happen to someone else?
[21:37] <brunch875> it's a known bug!
[21:48] <popey> dadexix86: yeah
[21:49] <popey> it's because the phone goes back to sleep really soon after the motor starts, and it doesn't get a chance to turn off
[21:49] <popey> if you wake the phone it turns off
[21:49] <popey> no good if it's in your bag though
[21:51] <dadexix86> brunch875, popey thanks :)
[22:25] <JackH> hey how do I uninstall some of the preinstalled apps on the ubuntu phone?
[22:26] <JackH> I have bash installed
[22:26] <JackH> but I am not sure what to type/run to remove the applications correctly
[22:26] <JackH> for example, ebay, never use it, never will.
[22:30] <cwayne_> JackH, ebay isn't actually installed on the device, it's a remote scope that lives on a server
[22:30] <JackH> cwaye, I still want to get rid of that icon ;)
[22:30] <JackH> or, Cinco Dias
[22:30] <JackH> or El Pais
[22:31] <cwayne_> JackH, for a lot of those, check out /custom/click, that's where they live
[22:31] <JackH> hmm, I am not familiar with /custom/click ?
[22:31] <cwayne_> i think you can uninstall them by going to the store scope
[22:31] <JackH> I am in there now, cant find any uninstall option
[22:36] <JackH> in general, I am looking for customization option and I cant find any info anywhere. how do I set my scopes, and remove scopes and add stuff in general to my general overview. seems like everything is stuck in a certain way
[22:37] <nhaines> Add and remove scopes in the Ubuntu App Store.
[22:38] <nhaines> Customize your scopes by swiping up on the Dash.
[22:38] <nhaines> Tapping on the star to the right of a scope will favorite or unfavorite a scope, and long-pressing anywhere on the Scope customization screen will let you reorganize your favorite scopes.
[22:48] <dobey> cwayne_: the ebay webapp is an app
[22:48] <dobey> JackH: just long press on the app icon in the apps scope. you'll get the preview and then you can tap on "Uninstall" there, to uninstall an app
[22:49] <dobey> or if you go to the store scope and search for the installed app, you can tap on it in there to get the preview, and then uninstall it
[22:50] <dobey> anyway, i am now gone. later :)
[22:56] <JackH> yay works
[23:04] <nhaines> \o/
[23:04] <JackH> we need more apps and scopes
[23:07] <nhaines> Wouldn't hurt!
[23:07] <JackH> any way to hack viber into this thing btw?
[23:07] <JackH> or some other android apps?
[23:08] <nhaines> It'd probably take half a year and a small development team working constantly, and it'd break any time Android changed and the apps updated.
[23:08] <nhaines> Plus there'd be no store and anything using Google Play Services wouldn't work.
[23:08] <nhaines> It'll be interesting how that works out for Microsoft and Windows 10 Mobile.
[23:08] <JackH> yeah I was thinking exactly that
[23:09] <JackH> it was quite the statement
[23:09] <nhaines> Anyone writing a Windows Universal App is basically using HTML5 and Javascript and Cordova, and that's super easy to bring to Ubuntu (it's 90% of the way there already) so that might be a good development for Ubuntu.