[11:43] <oliver__> Hi. I come from the user chanel. But it seems to be a more developer like problem with the Xorg Server in 14.04.2 LTS. Perhaps anyone hre has an idea to my problem.
[11:45] <oliver__> Since Ubuntu Studio 14.04.2 the Nvidia-Optimus causes crashes when closing windows. but not all the time.
[11:47] <oliver__> No problems so far with the version 14.04.1. Any Ideas?
[13:17] <OvenWerks> zequence: any idea which version of the eq10q package debian has?
[13:21] <zequence> OvenWerks: You can use rmadison to find out. Use the option "-u debian"
[13:21] <zequence> In Jessie: 2.0~beta5.1~repack0-2
[13:22] <OvenWerks> zequence: as of trusty we have 1.2 (gui is funny)vivid has 2.0/beta5.1
[13:22] <zequence> Wheezy has that version too
[13:23] <OvenWerks> I don't know if it is worth while pulling that back to LTS or not. The calf eqs are broken/won't fix
[13:24] <zequence> What do you mean, broken/won't fix?
[13:24] <OvenWerks> So I am looking for a replacement
[13:24] <OvenWerks> take a look at the generic controls in ardour.
[13:24] <zequence> Backports are always possible. We were supposed to do that a lot more for trusty
[13:24] <OvenWerks> the controls are exposed as if they are in db, but they need ratio input to work.
[13:25] <OvenWerks> The dev says it is ardour's fault (and I guess qtracktoprs fault too?)
[13:26] <zequence> Perhaps they do the same fault in implementation
[13:26] <OvenWerks> Anyway the bug has been there a long time... so it can't automated
[13:27] <OvenWerks> Could be. It is just that those two apps are the standard apps a plugin will be used with
[13:27] <OvenWerks> The standard test against apps in linux.
[13:27] <zequence> If the fix is to do something wrong, and hacky, I can understand a no fix stance.
[13:28] <zequence> It's quite possible some code was copied from one app to another
[13:28] <OvenWerks> http://x42-plugins.com/x42/x42-eq looks nice. I have been trying it, but it is not released yet.
[13:29] <zequence> I've noticed a lot of the sequencer have the same alsa midi bugs
[13:29] <OvenWerks> Anyway, off to work.
[13:29] <zequence> Either the bug is in ALSA itself, or they all do the same exact implementation of some parts
[13:30] <zequence> It's a red day for us, so no work today
[13:30] <zequence> Red, meaning a holiday
[20:08] <OvenWerks> zequence: for us (not US) it is monday.
[20:10] <OvenWerks> zequence: As for the calf eq plugins, I think they are what has the problem. The calf reverb is fine and works as expected. (aside from the bug that sometimes give 1000% output :)  But the levels work right anyway.
[20:14] <OvenWerks> zequence: however, even if the calf eq did work as it says iot should, it would not be that usable for things requiring automation or remote control just because ratios are not intuitive to use the way + or - db are. I am not sure why the GUI is in db for levels but the external controls are in ratio.