[06:11] <dholbach> good morning
[07:03] <MooDoo> hello all
[07:09] <elfy> morning MooDoo
[07:10] <dpm> good morning all
[07:14] <elfy> hi dpm :)
[07:15] <dpm> morning elfy
[07:21] <dholbach> hi MooDoo, hi dpm
[07:23] <dpm> hey dholbach, had a nice day off yesterday?
[07:29] <dholbach> yes, thanks a lot - how was yours?
[07:35] <davidcalle> Good morning o/
[07:38] <popey> Morning
[07:39] <dpm> dholbach, good, we went for a Weinwanderung around Stuttgart, despite the forecasts we had nice weather, so all good :)
[07:39] <dpm> morning davidcalle and popey
[07:40] <dholbach> very nice
[08:42] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:48] <silverlion> aloha madame
[08:48] <silverlion> but I'm about to head out for office :(
[08:49] <silverlion> have a nice $daytime everyone!
[09:24] <popey> Having been ill for a couple of days (and missing czajkowski co-working day on Wednesday) I haven't actually left the house all week.
[09:24] <popey> Need to find somewhere nearby with wifi and work there.
[09:24] <Tm_T> moin
[09:25] <Tm_T> I'm a sucker, I mobile-work with the shared data from a phone
[09:26] <Tm_T> maybe try working while sitting in a park next week
[09:26] <popey> I know there's a park in a nearby Town where the bandstand has free wifi
[09:26] <popey> and McDonalds and the local pub have wifi.
[09:27] <davidcalle> dpm, the scopes templates changed are finished, I've just tried to run an existing tutorial on them. It's not that bad, they will all need some rewriting and new code, that should take me ~two days. The merge won't happen until they are ready. Also, there is a new testing framework for scopes (python-harness) used with templates, not sure if ballons tutorials are covering it, but he'll probably need to have a look as well.
[09:27] <davidcalle> popey, McDonalds or local pub? Tough choice :p
[09:28] <popey> Well we don't all have haute cuisine french restaurants nearby :)
[09:28] <popey> "Le Big Mac"
[09:29] <dpm> davidcalle, great, thanks. Yeah balloons is working on the scopes testing tutorials and is aware of python-harness afaik, but it'd be good if you two could touch base on the template changes
[09:29] <davidcalle> popey, hehe
[09:29] <davidcalle> dpm, ok
[09:31] <davidcalle> dpm, btw, css fixes have landed for the API website https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-14.10/Ubuntu.Components.Pickers.Dialer/
[09:33] <dpm> davidcalle, and the Unity docs look much nicer too -> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/scopes/cpp/sdk-14.10/index/ - good work!
[09:33] <davidcalle> Although... I feel like the general css for API docs would still need some webteam design input. Not sure if it's us not using guidelines to their full potential or just their CSS guidelines being like that, but it feels "muddy".
[09:34] <davidcalle> Indeed, that was an awesome contribution :)
[09:34] <dpm> davidcalle, I think it's a bit challenging to have a unified markup for all the doc formats we support (doxygen, sphinx, qdoc, ...), but mhall119 would have more input on that
[09:35] <davidcalle> dpm, it's not that, probably just the color scheme not agreeing with me :)
[09:35] <dpm> :)
[09:44] <popey> \o/ found somewhere! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Retro-Coffee-Shop-Ltd/194619254003305
[09:44] <popey> right next to the best butcher in town
[09:47] <elfy> will they cook you a steak though?
[09:50] <MooDoo> hmmmmm steak
[10:08] <popey> \o/ https://twitter.com/Retro_Coffee/status/599153937971810304
[10:45] <popey> \o/ coffee
[10:49] <MooDoo> yay
[11:46] <czajkowski> popey: co working next week as you're better?
[11:54] <popey> maybe
[12:00] <czajkowski> dom tom and jon are on a ham weekend but I'm sure Dom would be up for it next week
[12:00] <czajkowski> Wednesdays do work well
[12:44] <mhall119> dpm: yeah, each doc source has it's own HTML markup around code snippets, we could style them to look the same as much as possible, but it'll be a lot of work
[12:48] <davidcalle> Hi dholbach, just seen your email
[12:50] <davidcalle> dholbach, I think that's a very needed status page, even without translations in mind, as a way to have an overview of recently updated pages.
[12:55] <dholbach> yes :)
[14:39] <dpm> dholbach, popey, davidcalle, mhall119, balloons, my current call might be running over
[14:39] <dholbach> dpm, pretend your network connection doesn't work too well!
[14:40] <dholbach> come on, you like us better than whoever you're talking to now
[14:44] <popey> well...
[14:53] <dpm> <§
[14:53] <dpm> <3
[15:01] <dholbach> dpm, do you still need some more time=?
[15:01] <dpm> go for it
[15:01] <dpm> will be back in a few mins
[15:04] <davidcalle> balloons, dholbach, mhall119, popey, who wants to start?
[15:04] <balloons> I can
[15:04] <balloons> DONE: qml template updates, in review. DOING: HTML5 updates, bug reporting / feedback for app developers BLOCKED: still awaiting landings for new docs for scopes and AP helpers. Still awaiting word from akiva
[15:06] <dholbach> balloons, what kind of html5 updates? is this for html5 testing developer docs?
[15:06] <balloons> dholbach, bah yes..
[15:06] <balloons> Still working on finishing them.. fingers crossed for this afternoon
[15:07] <dholbach> awesome :)
[15:07] <dholbach> DONE:
[15:07] <dholbach>  - help-app: 0.3 release (https://launchpad.net/help-app/+milestone/0.3)
[15:07] <dholbach>  - help-app: Daniel McGuire finished first mockups, sending to list soon
[15:07] <dholbach>  - dev site: discussion with dpm about maintenance of Chinese translation
[15:07] <dholbach>  - dev site: bit of bug triage
[15:07] <dholbach>  - snappy: community planning with rsalveti, ogra and dpm
[15:07] <dholbach>  - (misc) public holiday in Germany yesterday
[15:07] <dholbach> STARTED:
[15:07] <dholbach> - dev site: updated spreadsheet to track Chinese translation update
[15:07] <dholbach> NEXT:
[15:07] <dholbach>  - help-app: pad.lv/1433210 (reenable .link-cta-ubuntu)
[15:07] <dholbach>  - china: more China dev plans discussions
[15:07] <dholbach> BLOCKED:
[15:07] <dholbach>  - help-app: part 1 of 1446493 (set up site for content negotiation)
[15:07] <dholbach>    (with IS, RT#79340)
[15:08] <dholbach> ..
[15:08] <mhall119> dholbach putting us all to shame again
[15:08] <davidcalle> dholbach, about the chinese translation, who is going to do it?
[15:08] <popey> yeah
[15:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, we still have to figure this out
[15:09] <dholbach> davidcalle, I'm just preparing the discussion - happy to CC you
[15:09] <davidcalle> dholbach, uh no :p
[15:09] <dholbach> all right :)
[15:09] <davidcalle> Kidding, happy to be part of it
[15:09] <dholbach> <3
[15:10] <dholbach> dpm, here's a snippet I saw slangasek use for their team meetings, adapted to ours... for next time:       $ echo $(shuf -e balloons davidcalle dholbach dpm mhall119)          :)
[15:11] <davidcalle> (I want bash support on IRC)
[15:11] <dholbach> ok, I'm done
[15:11] <dholbach> anyone else?
[15:11] <mhall119> what could possibly go wrong
[15:11] <mhall119> I'll go next
[15:11] <mhall119> DONE:
[15:12] <mhall119> Deployed devportal update with CSS fixed (with davidcalle)
[15:12] <mhall119> so now two of us know how to do that :)
[15:12] <mhall119> Fixed the importer to work properly with API docs from1 15.04, have an MP ready to land to enable that
[15:13] <mhall119> worked with popey to get the new ubuntu podcast website up and plan for the first episode
[15:13] <mhall119> NEXT:
[15:13] <mhall119> udpate deployment instructions for devportal to clarify the process for webops
[15:14] <mhall119> finish reviewing djangosnippets project for integration with the devportal
[15:14] <dholbach> woo!
[15:14] <davidcalle> NICE
[15:14] <mhall119> prepare for importing ubuntu-sdi-15.10-dev1 API docs that will be in Wily
[15:14] <mhall119> that's all for me
[15:15] <mhall119> no blockers
[15:15] <mhall119> dpm: I do need to follow up with you about a CSS fix you have in an MP
[15:15] <mhall119> I remember discussing a change to it with you a while back, but don't recall what the change was or if it was made
[15:16] <mhall119> that's the only reason it wasn't included in the last deployment
[15:16] <balloons> lol dholbach, bash support :-) how about just going for it and including python?
[15:17] <mhall119> or use irssi and do it in perl, like a *real* programmer
[15:18] <davidcalle> Popey, want to go?
[15:18] <popey> ya
[15:18] <popey> DONE:  - Core apps manual & battery testing on Arale.  - Feedback to didrocks for developer advocacy.   - Setup ubuntu engineering podcast website - Pre-Announce ubuntu engineering podcast internally - Worked with Amrisha on surveys
[15:18] <popey> DOING: Docviewer & Calendar code reviews.
[15:18] <popey> BLOCKED: None (other than not having enough developers)
[15:18] <popey> NEXT: Reminders app rename and other reviews.
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[15:19] <dholbach> app rename?
[15:20] <dholbach> and for which app are you looking for developers?
[15:20] <popey> Renaming Reminders to "Notes"
[15:21] <popey> We wanted to land latest updates first
[15:21] <popey> then we're renaming
[15:21] <popey> but we're only renaming the user facing parts, not the click package or other bits
[15:21] <popey> Calendar could do with more devs, kunal is basically alone on that
[15:22] <popey> renato is working on backend sync stuff, but for the app itself, its kunal
[15:22] <popey> Docviewer also could use help.
[15:22]  * popey feels a blog post coming
[15:22] <dholbach> yeah, that sounds like a good idea :)
[15:23] <dholbach> I wonder apart from our usual social media targets we could spread something like that
[15:24] <popey> I have a long standing todo which is "Brainstorm where to dig up new developers"
[15:24] <popey> part of my conversation with didrocks mentioned above covered this :)
[15:24] <popey> more on that another day
[15:24] <dholbach> ahh, nice
[15:24]  * dholbach hugs popey
[15:25]  * davidcalle goes
[15:25] <davidcalle> DONE:
[15:25] <davidcalle> - Tested all published scopes tutorials against new SDK templates
[15:25] <davidcalle> - drafted text/code updates for these tutorials
[15:25] <davidcalle> - Snappy typos/rewording
[15:25] <davidcalle> DOING:
[15:25] <davidcalle> - Bundling libs in click article (gathered working examples and picked sdk team brains)
[15:25] <davidcalle> NEXT:
[15:25] <davidcalle> - Finish new platform page
[15:25] <davidcalle> - Finish i18n general tutorial (more looking into apps sources to see what people need)
[15:25] <davidcalle> BLOCKED:
[15:25] <davidcalle> - New scopes tutorials
[15:26] <dholbach> are there lots of changes scope authors will have to apply to their current scopes?
[15:26] <dholbach> bundlings-libs: nice!
[15:26] <davidcalle> balloons, new SDK templates use python-harness for scopes, you might want to have a look at them next week
[15:27] <balloons> davidcalle, yes ty.. I've been waiting for the templates to update before writing the new tutorial.. I've been watching marcus's branch
[15:27] <davidcalle> dholbach, nope, the API hasn't moved, but the API team is simplifying all scopes templates
[15:27] <dholbach> ah, brilliant
[15:27] <balloons> davidcalle, also, I pushed to get the new API documented so we could of course put it on d.u.c :-)
[15:28] <davidcalle> balloons, yup :-)
[15:28] <mhall119> \o/
[15:28] <davidcalle> That's it for me
[15:28]  * mhall119 never thought he would be excited over API docs
[15:29] <balloons> davidcalle, so we'll be in touch once the template changes are in to make sure the new tutorials go up nicely
[15:30] <davidcalle> balloons, yes, won't these changes affect existing tutorials? (as in: are they based on sdk templates?)
[15:30] <dholbach> dpm, around now?
[15:30] <balloons> davidcalle, yes ofc they will. But the current tutorials for testing only cover unit, not functional (which is where most of the changes lie)
[15:30] <balloons> so a bit less of changes for me than you :p
[15:33] <dpm> dholbach, I am now
[15:33] <dholbach> ok
[15:33] <dpm> thanks guys for running the standup
[15:34] <davidcalle> balloons, yeah, but it's putting me back in a C++ mindset and I like to think of it as a good thing... (glass half-full, but full of awful things :p)
[15:34] <popey> :)
[15:34]  * popey shrugs, french style
[15:35] <davidcalle> popey, I like that new style of yours!
[15:36] <dholbach> 2015 - année de la nouvelle langue du linux desktop
[15:37]  * popey lights a gauloise and taps his beret
[15:37] <balloons> davidcalle, J'aime ton style
[15:38]  * davidcalle celebrates another victory for la France
[15:39] <dholbach> . o O { allons enfants de la patriiihiie ... ]
[15:40] <davidcalle> <Something something baguette>
[15:42] <dholbach> I don't know... dpm, are we done with the meeting now?
[15:42] <dpm> dholbach, I'd say so
[15:42] <dholbach> ok...
[15:42] <dpm> on my side, it's been workshop preparation, and I'm not done yet for today
[15:43] <davidcalle> dpm, good luck, will you be there in Amsterdam?
[15:43] <dpm> davidcalle, yeah, Monday and Tuesday
[15:44] <davidcalle> dpm, that's a great city, enjoy!
[15:44] <popey> dpm: will you be afk mon-tue?
[15:45] <dpm> popey, mostly yes, but will be reading e-mail. I'll try to make it to the team call on Monday, and if I can't make it to the 1:1s, I'll rearrange them
[15:45] <popey> kk
[16:39] <popey> right, need to go and spend some time afk. have a great weekend all!
[17:39] <dpm> have a great weekend all!