[06:11] <dholbach> good morning
[07:42] <ljagielski1> Hi, can anyone tell me whether multiverse is the right place for closed-source packages supported by third-party company like Opera Browser?
[07:44] <ljagielski1> What I'm trying to find out is if this submitting such packages is feasible and if not, then if there is some more suitable place for that in Ubuntu
[07:46] <Rhonda> Doesn't opera offer their own repository for their package?
[07:47] <ljagielski1> Rhonda: yes it does, but if it's possible to make it easie
[07:48] <ljagielski1> sorry, if it's possible to have it in Ubuntu, then why not try
[08:02] <geser> ljagielski1: if they are freely redistributable they might fit into multiverse
[08:04] <Rhonda> I think that was the issue with respect to opera.  They want to track the download amount and that means they don't allow redistribution
[08:05] <Rhonda> But my memory could be flawed.
[08:05] <ljagielski1> geser,Rhonda: I think so, because repackaging that is done for other distros doesn't break agreement imo
[08:06] <Rhonda> Is there really a repackaging done, or do they just ship a download script which then does the repackaging for you?
[08:07] <Rhonda> i.e., do they ship the opera binary itself, or do they download it on installation of their repackaging package?
[08:11] <ljagielski1> Rhonda: this doesn't look like download script https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3Aruario%3Aopera&package=opera-stable
[08:15] <ljagielski1> Rhonda: http://pastie.org/10189960 this is part of copyright with interesting lines
[08:18] <Rhonda> Ubuntu does also produce an embedded OS, not?
[08:24] <ljagielski1> Probably this is in the copyright, not to cannibalize Opera embedded OS products
[08:24] <geser> you mean Ubuntu Phone and Snappy Ubuntu Core?
[08:25] <geser> I don't know if the repositories are split or shared and how the licenses applies if the repositories are shared with Ubuntu (desktop OS)
[09:02] <ljagielski1> so filing a bug in Launchpad with needs-packaging is a good starting point?