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| beuno | jgdx, I merged intro trunk and filed an RT to deploy, I'll chase the RT | 01:24 |
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| pepetux | parle t on français ici ? | 04:40 |
| pepetux | Bonjour tout les user ubuntu touch | 04:45 |
| sturmflut2 | Good morning! | 06:02 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:11 |
| dodeluser | good morning :-) | 06:12 |
| dodeluser | I have a new bq ubuntu phone. What I am missing is a fast possibility to do an internet search (analogue e.g. the search widget on an android phone)... on bq I have to open browser.. then go to www.google.de (because I cannot change start page yet, right?) | 06:16 |
| dodeluser | any tips for me? | 06:16 |
| sturmflut2 | dodeluser: You don't have to go to www.google.de, just enter the search term in the address field and press Return. | 06:20 |
| sturmflut2 | dodeluser: Swipe in the launcher from the left, press on the browser icon, enter the search term, press Return. That's the fastest way I know of. | 06:21 |
| dodeluser | ok, thanks. I will do it like that.. any chance to get search suggestions ? | 06:22 |
| sturmflut2 | dodeluser: Hm, that's a question for the Core Apps Developers. rpadovani might know. | 06:25 |
| dodeluser | ok, thanks in any case. | 06:26 |
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| lotuspsychje | alot of activity | 08:07 |
| lotuspsychje | https://twitter.com/ubuntu | 08:07 |
| sturmflut2 | The most important question is | 08:19 |
| sturmflut2 | Will the fridge have Convergence | 08:19 |
| jgdx | sturmflut2, whether or not the fridge will become a desktop if you plug a mouse/keyboard into it? | 08:21 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 08:21 |
| sturmflut2 | jgdx: Yes | 08:22 |
| sturmflut2 | But the ultimate goal is obviously "Ubuntu Snappy Skynet", when your fridge desktop sends an Erle Robotics drone to get milk | 08:24 |
| ogra_ | indeed ! | 08:24 |
| lotuspsychje | alot of snappy devices rise these days | 08:25 |
| jgdx | how will they communicate? | 08:25 |
| lotuspsychje | did you guys read that article about apt-get and snappy? | 08:25 |
| lotuspsychje | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/more-stable-future-ubuntu | 08:26 |
| davmor2 | sturmflut2: it already does, not only does it keep things cool, you can freeze things too, I have no idea where that will lead ;) | 08:26 |
| jgdx | $ thaw chicken | 08:28 |
| sturmflut2 | jgdx: Both the fridge and the drone have Wi-Fi and connect to the internet | 08:28 |
| jgdx | sturmflut2, they should communicate locally imo | 08:29 |
| sturmflut2 | jgdx: They can, with P2P/mesh Wi-Fi and stuff | 08:30 |
| lotuspsychje | maybe theyl communicate over the snappy ninja sphere | 08:30 |
| jgdx | sturmflut2, that raises the question, will apps be allowed to perform that kind of communication? | 08:30 |
| jgdx | (for me, I haven't done a app that uses networking) | 08:30 |
| lotuspsychje | there's a wifi scanner for ubuntu came out recently | 08:31 |
| sturmflut2 | lotuspsychje: network scanner, not Wi-Fi scanner | 08:32 |
| lotuspsychje | right thats the one | 08:32 |
| sturmflut2 | Does anybody know why https://uappexplorer.com/app/city.zubozrout doesn't show up in the Ubuntu Store on my bq? | 08:34 |
| dholbach | sturmflut2, maybe available only in a select number of countries? | 08:34 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Nylon Stockings Day! 😝 | 08:35 |
| sturmflut2 | dholbach: That's what I thought as well, but the store API says "whitelist_country_codes": [] | 08:38 |
| sturmflut2 | dholbach: So AFAICT it's not restricted | 08:38 |
| dholbach | mmh | 08:39 |
| ogra_ | sturmflut2, probably it uses a too new framework definition | 08:40 |
| ogra_ | i see it on my vivid phone | 08:40 |
| popey | it uses 15.04 framework | 08:41 |
| ogra_ | yeah, then it wont show up on the default bq | 08:41 |
| sturmflut2 | ogra_, popey: Yes, thanks for pointing that out. | 08:41 |
| sturmflut2 | I should propably also list the "framework" field in the RSS feed | 08:42 |
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| jgdx | mpt, any luck with the testing of the thing? | 11:32 |
| mpt | jgdx, has the vivid PPA been rebuilt? I was told yesterday it was broken | 11:33 |
| jgdx | mpt, not sure. Not sure of anything when it comes to that anymore. | 11:36 |
| NIN101 | what's the difference between http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu/krillin/ and http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/krillin.en/krillin/? | 11:53 |
| jgdx | davmor2, ^ | 12:05 |
| davmor2 | NIN101: custom-tarball but both are on wily and will likely break heavily | 12:06 |
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| * mhall119 kicks ogra_ | 12:46 | |
| ogra_ | hahaha | 12:46 |
| ogra_ | morning :P | 12:46 |
| mhall119 | congrats on the 10 years though | 12:47 |
| mhall119 | :) | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | heh, thanks :) | 12:47 |
| mhall119 | but sending out an email like that before I've had my coffee......not fair | 12:47 |
| davmor2 | mhall119: we should of all started our replies with NNNNNNNNNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! and then it would really of played with your head :) | 12:48 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, i have a review for you, when you have a chance https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/url-dispatcher/+merge/259039 | 12:50 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, I have one for you as well :) | 12:50 |
| kenvandine | woot | 12:51 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/hotspots-binding/+merge/252296 | 12:51 |
| jgdx | it's only 3k lines | 12:51 |
| kenvandine | oh my | 12:51 |
| kenvandine | well, a bunch of it i've reviewed before... of course no telling what parts of it :) | 12:51 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, actually i can select the diffs, easier to review :) | 12:52 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, indeed! | 12:52 |
| Elleo | kenvandine: yeah, just looking at that now | 12:53 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, great, thanks | 12:53 |
| mhall119 | davmor2: nah,we should have played along and just responded with "good riddance" | 12:56 |
| ogra_ | lol | 12:56 |
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| jgdx | "Oliver Grawert… rings a faint bell" | 13:00 |
| mhall119 | cwayne: ping | 13:00 |
| cwayne | mhall119, pong | 13:01 |
| mhall119 | cwayne: hey, regarding scopes API docs | 13:01 |
| mhall119 | what's on the site now comes form the vivid archive doc packages | 13:01 |
| mhall119 | sorry, utopic's archives | 13:02 |
| cwayne | ah, i don't suppose that can be switched to vivid? | 13:02 |
| mhall119 | currently, I've got a branch ready that will switch it to vivid and ubuntu-sdk-15.04 framework that should go out next week | 13:02 |
| mhall119 | then as soon as ubuntu-sdk-15.10-dev1 framework is created, I'll switch that on too | 13:03 |
| cwayne | mhall119, that'd be great, thanks | 13:03 |
| mhall119 | cwayne: but the docs listed under sdk-14.10 are what was in utopic (and what is currently on stable phone images) | 13:03 |
| mhall119 | so those are accurate for that target, correct? | 13:03 |
| cwayne | mhall119, right, but we were working on 1504 framework | 13:03 |
| cwayne | yeah | 13:03 |
| cwayne | but 14.10 is so yesterday :P | 13:03 |
| mhall119 | ok, so as long as the doc package in vivid has the changes, they'll be online soon | 13:04 |
| mhall119 | cwayne: yeah yeah, but until vivid phone images are official, that's all I care about :) | 13:04 |
| cwayne | mhall119, :) | 13:05 |
| cwayne | mhall119, thanks for the info though, good to know itll be updated soon enough :) | 13:08 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, reviewed, see my comments | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, most important is the test, i think that test should be split into at least 3 separate tests | 13:14 |
| kenvandine | each test should be something the user wants to accomplish | 13:15 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, okkedoke | 13:18 |
| dednick | kenvandine: where does the pay-ui log to? | 13:19 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, thanks for the review. Re: ui elements always visible: they are not. If WiFi is disabled, so is the hotspot entry. | 13:19 |
| jgdx | so if the test runs somewhere the is no indicator-network, it will be skipped, not fail | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | oh without indicator-network... | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | dednick, no idea... i don't work on pay-ui :) | 13:21 |
| dednick | kenvandine: ah. sorry. | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | dednick, no worries | 13:21 |
| dednick | kenvandine: nevermind. i just found it :) | 13:21 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, so like on the desktop? | 13:21 |
| dednick | ah. i think it was mardy ? | 13:22 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, but it'll always run on the device? | 13:22 |
| kenvandine | dednick, i think it's dobey | 13:22 |
| dobey | what? | 13:22 |
| kenvandine | pay-ui? | 13:22 |
| dobey | yeah | 13:22 |
| mardy | dednick: I'm on Online Accounts | 13:22 |
| kenvandine | hey mardy! | 13:23 |
| mardy | kenvandine: hi :-) | 13:23 |
| mardy | kenvandine: oh yes, I saw your ping about the tests | 13:23 |
| dobey | it logs to the per-app file in ~/.cache/upstart/ (i think they are timestamped and have the full app id or something in the filename) | 13:23 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, will wifi always be enabled? | 13:23 |
| dobey | and also in ~/.cache/payui/payui.log iirc | 13:23 |
| mardy | kenvandine: where can I see the test results? | 13:23 |
| kenvandine | jgdx, so i'm fine with that skip as long as we know it'll run on in CI | 13:23 |
| kenvandine | mardy, well... we figured it out | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | uitk is broken in wily | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | autopilot stuff | 13:24 |
| mardy | kenvandine: OK, sounds like fun then :-) | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | so anything that runs autopilot tests that also use uitk is broken | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | no /sbin/initctl on wily | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | and they make an assumption that it exists | 13:24 |
| kenvandine | elopio was working on a fix | 13:25 |
| kenvandine | mardy, so in the mean time everything landing in wily that runs autopilot tests as autopkgtests is getting held up in proposed | 13:25 |
| mardy | kenvandine: oki | 13:26 |
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| dednick | mardy: how do i set OAU_LOGGING_LEVEL for the online accounts ui? | 13:40 |
| mardy | dednick: OAU_LOGGING_LEVEL=2 OAU_DAEMON_TIMEOUT=9999 online-accounts-service | 13:40 |
| mardy | dednick: make sure there isn't another running already | 13:41 |
| dednick | mardy: thanks | 13:41 |
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| kenvandine | Elleo, branch updated | 14:28 |
| Elleo | kenvandine: okay, cool | 14:28 |
| dednick | dobey: what generates the prompt session request for the pay-ui? | 14:31 |
| dobey | dednick: pay-service | 14:32 |
| kenvandine | awe, jgdx, bfiller: i reconfigured silo 13 (hotspot) and kicked another build, so will be ready for more testing when the build finishes | 14:34 |
| jgdx | kenvandine, thanks | 14:34 |
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| awe | kenvandine, thanks | 14:44 |
| davti | how can I load my app qreated on the ubuntu-sdk in my bq-aquaris? | 14:49 |
| mpt | jgdx, kenvandine: So, what is the exact name of the channel I should flash before installing the silo? (since it’s not devel-proposed) | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | mpt, i'm not sure... pmcgowan^^ | 14:55 |
| kenvandine | pmcgowan, what channel should mpt use to ensure he gets vivid-proposed? | 14:55 |
| sturmflut2 | davti: Enable developer mode, then click on "Devices" in Qt Creator and click the "Refresh devices" button at the bottom. | 14:55 |
| sturmflut2 | davti: When your device is detected you can do stuff with it from within Qt Creator | 14:56 |
| ogra_ | kenvandine, mpt ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en | 14:56 |
| kenvandine | mpt, what device? | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | ogra_, i think he might be on mako... but could be wrong | 14:59 |
| ogra_ | kenvandine, yes, mako is fine | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | so ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed ? | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | just drop the last bit | 15:00 |
| mpt | kenvandine, krillin | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | mpt, great, then the one ogra_ posted | 15:00 |
| ogra_ | kenvandine, no | 15:00 |
| ogra_ | thats the actual channel name ... you cant drop anything :) | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | ogra_, so out of curiosity, what channel to use for mako? | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | for vivid that is | 15:01 |
| mpt | thanks ogra_ | 15:01 |
| ogra_ | note that sadly the image numbers were re-set ... it started at image 1 six days ago ... | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | (so you will get image 6 now) | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | ogra_, wait... bq-aquaris.en for mako? that is very confusing! | 15:02 |
| ogra_ | kenvandine, tell slangasek :) | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | it seems to be the only vivid channel we have left | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | and it has builds for mako | 15:03 |
| ogra_ | (dailies it seems) | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | ok then... | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | nobody would figure that out on their own :/ | 15:04 |
| mpt | The part I like is that ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed is apparently a redirect to ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu which is wily | 15:12 |
| ogra_ | heh | 15:13 |
| mpt | “2015/05/15 16:02:01 Start pushing /home/mpt/.cache/ubuntuimages/pool/ubuntu-b32c626f269643e16c08bc08608abd056523a2f7deb1a7ee12e078c8301a06d6.tar.xz to device” … It’s not supposed to take 12+ minutes, is it? | 15:14 |
| jgdx | mpt, phone unlocked and you can access it? | 15:19 |
| mpt | jgdx, yes | 15:24 |
| mpt | (22 minutes now) | 15:25 |
| jgdx | mpt, I mean see it using adb ($ adb devices) | 15:25 |
| mpt | jgdx, yes | 15:26 |
| jgdx | mpt, it's supposed to take a while, but maybe not that long of a while. | 15:26 |
| mpt | jgdx, but “adb shell” hangs — I don’t know whether that’s normal during a flash, I’ve never tried | 15:26 |
| mpt | ok, I’ll cancel it and try again | 15:27 |
| ogra_ | mpt, not normal ... | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | you can have as many parallel adb shell connections as you like | 15:28 |
| mpt | Ugh, now it’s hung before even displaying the first progress bar | 15:28 |
| ogra_ | re-plug the phone ... sounds like something on the USB level | 15:29 |
| mpt | ok | 15:29 |
| mpt | Welp, I’ll see if it’s finished by Sunday | 15:31 |
| slangasek | kenvandine, ogra_: maybe you're looking for ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu ? | 15:34 |
| slangasek | kenvandine, ogra_: it's confusing that bq-aquaris.en is the only /promoted/ vivid channel for mako; but that's been the reality all along, now it's just made more obvious with the channel namse | 15:34 |
| sturmflut2 | ogra, popey, mzanetti, ondra: May I ask for your help regarding one of my upcoming "Hacking Ubuntu Touch" articles? | 15:35 |
| mzanetti | seems a complex topic if you need all 4 of us :D | 15:35 |
| sturmflut2 | Haha | 15:35 |
| sturmflut2 | "The Fantastic Four" | 15:36 |
| mzanetti | so what's the problem? | 15:36 |
| sturmflut2 | I tried to identify where the log messages of all default processes on the system go, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11149166/ , but even after putting a lot of effort into it the table still has too many missing or "None?" entries. | 15:37 |
| popey | sturmflut2: seen the log viewer app? | 15:37 |
| popey | yeah,I guess some don't have logs | 15:37 |
| popey | or will go to syslog | 15:38 |
| sturmflut2 | popey: The Log Viewer app doesn't handle the Android Logging system e.g., and a lot of processes use that one | 15:38 |
| popey | ah | 15:38 |
| sturmflut2 | In the end I sat there with find, grep, lsof, ldd and pals to find every possibility, but as said, too many entries are empty and I'm not sure if I'm missing something. | 15:39 |
| cwayne | sturmflut2, try running adb shell /system/bin/logcat | 15:41 |
| ondra | sturmflut2 logs for system are under /var/log and for user processes are under ~/phablet/.cache/upstart | 15:42 |
| ondra | sturmflut2 and as cwayne said, anything running in the container is then as logcat | 15:42 |
| sturmflut2 | cwayne: I did, only to find out that it blocks on my bq while reading the "events" buffer. | 15:42 |
| ondra | sturmflut2 so you need to combine 3 sources | 15:42 |
| sturmflut2 | I think I'll just publish the damn thing, it's been in the works for days now. | 15:48 |
| popey | do it, let the internet tell you you're wrong | 15:50 |
| sturmflut2 | You don't want to be wrong on the internet | 15:50 |
| mzanetti | ^^ | 15:50 |
| mzanetti | chances are it's the new right afterwards | 15:51 |
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| mzanetti | sturmflut2, a quick glance over that table doesn't seem to bring up more logfiles in my head... | 15:53 |
| sturmflut2 | https://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/15/hacking-ubuntu-touch-part-6-logfiles/ | 15:54 |
| sturmflut2 | In the next article I will do some actual work, up till now it was all about laying the foundation | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, the rootfs in that bq-aquaris.en channel is definitely from today, that cant be the promoted channel | 16:39 |
| slangasek | ogra_: in what channel? | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | ogra@anubis:~$ ubuntu-device-flash query --channel=ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en --device=krillin --list-images|tail -1 | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | 6: description='ubuntu=20150515,device=20150511-3912934,custom=20150507-685-29-11-vivid,version=6' | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, ^ | 16:40 |
| ogra_ | this looks like a daily vivid image to me | 16:41 |
| slangasek | ogra_: I didn't say that was a promoted channel | 16:42 |
| slangasek | it's obviously not, it has "-proposed" in the name | 16:42 |
| ogra_ | sorry, i mis-read: "<slangasek> kenvandine, ogra_: it's confusing that bq-aquaris.en is the only /promoted/ vivid channel for mako; " | 16:43 |
| slangasek | right, by which I meant ubuntu-touch/rc/bq-aquaris.en and ubuntu-touch/stable/bq-aquaris.en | 16:43 |
| ogra_ | right | 16:43 |
| ogra_ | that you re-set the versions for vivid is quite tricky for my changelog generator :/ | 16:44 |
| slangasek | ogra_: what do you mean? there was no reset of versions on either the ubuntu-touch/vivid or ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed channels | 16:51 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed is gone, no ? and ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en now gets the daily builds ... latest image in tthe latter is #6 | 17:04 |
| ogra_ | or am i mis-reading something there | 17:06 |
| ogra_ | http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en/krillin/version-6.json has ubuntu=20150515 ... which is todays rootfs ... | 17:08 |
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| JMS_touch | can anyone help with changelog for killn from devel-proposed? | 17:16 |
| JMS_touch | *krillin | 17:16 |
| slangasek | ogra_: ubuntu-touch/vivid-proposed maps to ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu, which is what it always was before | 17:17 |
| ogra_ | JMS_touch, not with a recent one ... i need to get the above sorted :) ... generally http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/vivid/ and http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/rtm/ for the daily builds though | 17:17 |
| JMS_touch | thankyou for a v swift response | 17:17 |
| slangasek | ogra_: the changelog delta between images on ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en is going to large, because it's "rebase from ubuntu-rtm/14.09 to vivid" | 17:18 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, so for vivid dailies i would go with: ubuntu-touch/devel-proposed/ubuntu ? ... thats not what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Channels says ... | 17:18 |
| slangasek | ogra_: no. why are you talking about vivid dailies? | 17:19 |
| ogra_ | (the wiki says daily wily for that channel) | 17:19 |
| slangasek | there's "rc-proposed" and there's "devel-proposed" | 17:19 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, i'm generating changelogs and run the imagebot in -ci-eng ... i want to keep it functioning for vivid dailies | 17:20 |
| ogra_ | (and indeed add wily) | 17:20 |
| slangasek | ogra_: the whole reason these channels were renamed is because it's wrong to think of this in terms of "vivid" | 17:20 |
| slangasek | there is no channel that was vivid last week and is still vivid this week | 17:21 |
| ogra_ | well, we do a daily image build from vivid+overlay ... where does that end up ? | 17:21 |
| slangasek | rc-proposed | 17:21 |
| ogra_ | slangasek, ok, and if i want to get the changelog that correspondents to the mako smoke testing image i would use mako from ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en or would it be ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu ? | 17:23 |
| * ogra_ checks http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch/ and starts comparing numbers | 17:24 | |
| slangasek | ogra_: there should be no difference in rootfs between those two channels; per the list discussion, we've recommended ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu be used for mako smoke testing | 17:24 |
| ogra_ | ok, then i'll bind the changelogs to that image, thanks | 17:25 |
| ogra_ | i really think we need some better concept ... that gets really confusing (and wont become easier with more devices) | 17:26 |
| ogra_ | (or at least apply the new channel naming concept everywhere ... http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/vivid/touch/ doesnt seem to map to anything at all anymore currently) | 17:29 |
| bqphone | hi there, any app i can use to resize images? | 17:33 |
| ogra_ | the gallery app has a crop tool ... | 17:34 |
| bqphone | i dont want to crop, i want to decrease the size | 17:36 |
| dobey | crop != scale | 17:36 |
| ogra_ | yeah, indeed | 17:36 |
| bqphone | that means there is no app to resize phone and my only option is to crop it? | 17:40 |
| bqphone | phone = image | 17:40 |
| ogra_ | there is imagonario in the store, that i ssupposed to have such features i think ... but i doubt it is ready yet | 17:41 |
| Ninjamahs | ahoy | 17:41 |
| bqphone | i will test it now, and will tell if it work. | 17:41 |
| bqphone | thx | 17:41 |
| ogra_ | bqphone, in any case file a whishlist bug against gallery so the feature request is on the radar of the developers | 17:42 |
| dobey | you want to scale to send as sms? images for mms get automatically scaled, fwiw | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | bfiller, ^^ i guess there is already something like a whishlist bug for resize in gallery ? | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | dobey, well, with the arale you end up with quad HD pictures or some such ... would make sense to be able to sscale them down for soacial network sharing etc | 17:43 |
| bqphone | link please so i do the whislist | 17:43 |
| Ninjamahs | im thinking of trying to port touch to a device iv got, but was wondering if someone with a bit of experience with the touch stuff might be able to clear up a few things | 17:43 |
| bqphone | well if you want to attach photoes to some forums, you are limited with a specific size | 17:44 |
| popey | yeah, we dont have that feature yet | 17:45 |
| popey | probably better filing against camera app | 17:45 |
| bqphone | where i can add to the whishlist ? | 17:45 |
| ogra_ | bqphone, https://bugs.launchpad.net/gallery-app/+filebug | 17:45 |
| popey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app | 17:45 |
| popey | AIUI camera will replace gallery | 17:45 |
| ogra_ | oh ? | 17:45 |
| ogra_ | ok | 17:45 |
| Ninjamahs | like i recently setup my linux with an android build environment, and did the hefty repo sync not too far back. can the stuff i syncd be used in conjunction or do i have to do another massive sync if i decide to try porting touch to my device | 17:47 |
| dobey | weird | 17:47 |
| dobey | Ninjamahs: if you have AOSP of android 4.4, you should be ok i guess | 17:48 |
| Ninjamahs | i literally repo synced for practically a whole day | 17:48 |
| Ninjamahs | with intent to build android5.0 so im pretty sure it got that in there too | 17:49 |
| bqphone | done | 17:49 |
| dobey | i think 5.x has some incompatible changes that make ubuntu not work on top of it. afaik, you need the 4.4 AOSP tree to use for ubuntu | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | well,, you need the phablet tree | 17:51 |
| Ninjamahs | yes all i mean is, that i think my repo sync covered the source code from android like 1.x something all the way up to the latest | 17:52 |
| dobey | i guess follow the porting guide then, and i guess if you do need to pull extra stuff it will probably be faster since you've already done the full checkout of android | 17:54 |
| Ninjamahs | https://github.com/zombi-x/platform_manifest/blob/lp5.1/default.xml thats what i syncd with | 17:58 |
| Ninjamahs | pretty sure it includes aosp along with many others | 17:58 |
| Ninjamahs | i could be wrong | 17:59 |
| dobey | i don't know | 18:09 |
| Ninjamahs | hmm ok | 18:10 |
| aeg0n | hola | 18:13 |
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| bogdan_ | Hello, I want to activate tehthering now... | 18:22 |
| bogdan_ | I activated developer mode on bq | 18:23 |
| bogdan_ | the screen is on | 18:23 |
| bogdan_ | and in terminal on ubuntu: adb shell android-gadget-service enable rndis | 18:23 |
| bogdan_ | but i am conected on my router not on my bq | 18:23 |
| bogdan_ | how to make this to work | 18:23 |
| bogdan_ | is someone willing to enter on my computer through TEamWiever... to make this work | 18:24 |
| bogdan_ | ? | 18:24 |
| bogdan_ | ethernet on BQ is disconected | 18:25 |
| ogra_ | on an ubuntu desktop you simply disable the cable connection ... | 18:25 |
| dobey | does your phone not appear as a network device under the network menu in the top panel? | 18:25 |
| ogra_ | then it should automatically pick the phone connection | 18:25 |
| bogdan_ | #dobey: in the top panel "ethernet (BQ)" is disabled | 18:26 |
| dobey | select it as the connection | 18:26 |
| bogdan_ | #ogra: i will disable cable | 18:26 |
| bogdan_ | I will lose internet on this chat | 18:26 |
| bogdan_ | ok, i wil try | 18:26 |
| bogdan_ | I will close the router | 18:26 |
| * ogra_ only ever tested on laptops ... there it just switches from wlan to the phone automatically | 18:27 | |
| bogdan_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn2YlpGfSAc&feature=youtu.be | 18:31 |
| bogdan_ | you can see on this video | 18:31 |
| bogdan_ | that the option to conect to ubuntu bq is disable | 18:31 |
| bogdan_ | that is the first option on that list | 18:33 |
| bogdan_ | and i have no option | 18:33 |
| ogra_ | and it does not get activated when you disable the router connection ? | 18:39 |
| ogra_ | weird ... | 18:39 |
| ogra_ | works fine here on 14.04 and 14.10 desktops | 18:39 |
| dobey | bogdan_: does your phone not have a data connection? | 18:46 |
| dobey | hmm | 19:01 |
| dobey | what was the reason for the "/bin/bash: permission denied" error when trying to run scripts and such in the terminal app on the phone? | 19:01 |
| ogra_ | confinement | 19:03 |
| dobey | but the terminal app is using the "unconfined" profile no? | 19:04 |
| ogra_ | the terminal app doesnt give you the equivalent to a full shell ... iirc exec() is prevented | 19:04 |
| ogra_ | you can do anything interactively you want and execute system commands too ... but you cant exec scripts | 19:05 |
| ogra_ | (not sure thats a bug or a feature ... jdstrand would know) | 19:06 |
| ogra_ | ssh to localhost is a valid workaround though ... | 19:06 |
| dobey | well, some system commands are scripts, which break in that scenario | 19:07 |
| dobey | or well, i guess chroot isn't, but chroot can't exec the child bash or something as a result | 19:08 |
| ogra_ | right, chroot is definitely blocked | 19:08 |
| ogra_ | check syslog ... i'm sure you have denials from apparmor | 19:09 |
| jdstrand | the unconfined template is not equivalent to truly unconfined, however, we use 'pix' for everything, so an exec() shouldn't be blocked | 19:11 |
| ogra_ | jdstrand, but a chroot call will, right ? | 19:11 |
| jdstrand | I would not be surprised if chroot didn't work | 19:12 |
| jdstrand | feel free to file a bug with denials and we can see if we can get it fixed/provide a local workaround | 19:13 |
| dobey | is there some way we can make chroot work? | 19:13 |
| dobey | well enabling sshd and doing "ssh localhost" is a local workaround, but i'd prefer to not have that be the recommended way to create a chroot for using CLI tools | 19:13 |
| * ogra_ really waits for a generic terminal widget ... you could just ship a chroot inside a click along with it and have a chrooted terminal app | 19:16 | |
| ogra_ | (that way confinement wouldnt matter at all) | 19:17 |
| dobey | except "chroot" doesn't work because of apparmor, and it requires root | 19:17 |
| ogra_ | fakechroot then ;) | 19:17 |
| dobey | the denials should appear in syslog right? | 19:20 |
| ogra_ | yep | 19:20 |
| ogra_ | or in dmesg | 19:20 |
| dobey | weird | 19:20 |
| dobey | ah there it is | 19:20 |
| dobey | May 15 19:19:39 ubuntu-phablet kernel: [ 6512.464939] type=1400 audit(1431717579.681:66): apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" profile="com.ubuntu.terminal_terminal_0.7.70" name="/home/phablet/vivid-chroot/bin/bash" pid=21562 comm="chroot" requested_mask="x" denied_mask="x" fsuid=0 ouid=0 | 19:21 |
| dobey | so it's just that chroot can't exec a child | 19:21 |
| bfiller | ogra_: we automatically scale before sending via MMS | 19:23 |
| dobey | bfiller: there's no way for a person to scale when picking from content-hub into a random web page to upload an image, though | 19:24 |
| bfiller | dobey: true, we should do that automatically | 19:24 |
| bfiller | kenvandine: ^^^ | 19:24 |
| bfiller | we've discussed this before | 19:25 |
| dobey | bfiller: i don't think it should be automatic on the client side. if i want to upload a 21megapixel image to a site, i should be able to; it shouldn't be automatically scaled down for that i don't think | 19:26 |
| dobey | mms makes some sense for the automatic scaling, but even then i think i'd like an option to turn it off | 19:27 |
| t-ask | Hi, I have the bq mobile, but I can't unlock my SIM card, any idea? | 19:27 |
| t-ask | I press the "unlock" button but nothing happens... got the newest update | 19:28 |
| bogdan_ | dobey: Yes, my phone have 3G, data conection | 19:28 |
| bfiller | dobey: I guess you should be prompted at some point before the transfer happens what size you want, i.e. original, med, small or soemthing like that | 19:28 |
| bogdan_ | sorry, i was out for some minutes | 19:29 |
| dobey | maybe | 19:29 |
| dobey | bogdan_: interesting. file a bug report i guess. i'm not sure why that would happen | 19:29 |
| bogdan_ | ok, thanks | 19:29 |
| bogdan_ | i am on 15.04 | 19:30 |
| bogdan_ | ubuntu 15.04 | 19:30 |
| bogdan_ | maybe this could be a cause | 19:30 |
| jcbjoe | bogdan_ how did you get on 15.04 ? | 19:30 |
| bogdan_ | i upgrade | 19:30 |
| bogdan_ | from 14.10 | 19:31 |
| jcbjoe | bogdan_: ubuntu phone ? | 19:31 |
| dobey | bogdan_: maybe a bug in networkmanager in 15.04 perhaps. it worked fine for me on 14.04 a couple weeks ago when i tried it | 19:31 |
| bogdan_ | oh, no, ubuntu phone is on 14.09 rtm | 19:32 |
| bogdan_ | v22 | 19:32 |
| dobey | that was with a nexus5 too, not a bq | 19:32 |
| bogdan_ | is there a setting I can check in terminal? | 19:32 |
| dobey | i don't have a bq | 19:32 |
| dobey | bogdan_: i'm not sure, but you can probably use nmcli to get a bit more technical info perhaps | 19:33 |
| bogdan_ | i have to go to sleep now, thanks all, i will fill a bug one day about thethering | 19:35 |
| kenvandine | bfiller, yeah, when picking in gallery they should be able to scale, crop, etc | 19:59 |
| t-ask | Do you know a good source to get background pictures for the bq? | 20:14 |
| dadexix86 | hi all! do you know if there is a limit (in minutes or bytes) in the videos recorded by the camera? | 20:28 |
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| dobey | dadexix86: either ram or storage, i would guess, depending on how fast it can be flushed to disk | 21:14 |
| dadexix86 | dobey, ok, probably it was the RAM then, since there is enough space for it to go on (that was the first thing that I checked when I noticed it stopped recording) | 21:36 |
| trickvi | Elleo: hey, a while back when discussing keyboards you mentioned that after I get my MR up I could make my phone writeable and get the keyboard onto it, could you point me to docs I can follow? | 21:39 |
| dobey | dadexix86: did it just stop recording, or did it appear to crash? | 21:42 |
| dadexix86 | it just stopped recording, the file is ok :) | 21:44 |
| dadexix86 | I was writing things on the whiteboard, preparing a talk for next week and it was on the desk behind me. when I finished and wanted to look at it I discovered that it recorded just 40 mins instead of ~80 | 21:45 |
| dobey | oh | 21:45 |
| dobey | have a good weekend all! | 21:46 |
| dadexix86 | the exact time of recording is 42:50 mins. before this morning I recorded one of 1h and 18mins and of more or less the same size, but some bytes smaller (2.147.371.753 byte against 2.147.378.881 byte) | 21:47 |
| dadexix86 | so I was wondering whether there is a size limit on the files... | 21:47 |
| Elleo | trickvi: thinking about it, there's actually two steps you'd have to take, first switch to the devel-proposed channel and then make the phone writable; as the debs are only built against vivid (which has a different Qt version) | 21:50 |
| Elleo | trickvi: and you should only switch to devel-proposed if you're really happy running experimental (and sometimes broken) stuff | 21:50 |
| Elleo | trickvi: so it might be safest to just wait until OTA 4 | 21:51 |
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| trickvi | Elleo: I'm happy to run experimental, but is OTA 4 still on for end of May? | 22:11 |
| trickvi | Elleo: experimental means I might find things I can help out with ;) | 22:12 |
| jgdx | sturmflut2, cool post about logging. System Settings' log is at .cache/upstart/application-legacy-ubuntu-system-settings-.log | 22:30 |
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