[00:00] <Jordan_U> tapout: That depends entirely on your needs, preferences, and how compatable your hardware is with Ubuntu.
[00:00] <lorddune> tapout: i abandoded windows years ago and actually I have been somewhat impressed with them of recent
[00:00] <lorddune> Jordan_U: did you see my response
[00:01] <lorddune> Jordan_U: when I try it the 2nd time it says "must be run from a terminal"
[00:01] <Jordan_U> lorddune: Yes.
[00:02] <lorddune> Jordan_U: haha that's a new one on me. telling me to run it from a terminal when I am in the terminal.
[00:04] <lorddune> Jordan_U: anything else or are we stuck?
[00:05] <Jordan_U> lorddune: Open another terminal (leave the first open) and run "for dir in dev sys proc; do sudo mount --bind /$dir/ /mnt/$dir/; done".
[00:05] <Jordan_U> lorddune: Then try "su youruser" again.
[00:05] <lorddune> no paswd for user entry <name>
[00:05] <EriC^> uh oh
[00:05] <lorddune> Jordan_U: no paswd for user entry <name>
[00:07] <lorddune> EriC^: that isn't the root which is really odd. it doesn't even recognize the root, just the name I was using when the update was going on I believe.
[00:07] <EriC^> lorddune: hey what is in /etc/fstab btw?
[00:07] <EriC^> lorddune: pastebinit /etc/fstab , from your chroot
[00:07] <lorddune> EriC^: my (now fried) backup drive I believe
[00:08] <lorddune> EriC^: sorry, what?
[00:08] <EriC^> lorddune: type pastebinit /etc/fstab
[00:09] <Jordan_U> lorddune: What is your username? I'd rather just have you post exact output of commands.
[00:09] <lorddune> Jordan_U: it's saying it is "Dave"
[00:10] <Jordan_U> lorddune: What is the exact command you ran?
[00:10] <lorddune> Jordan_U: but I had set up my root as "Tower"
[00:10] <lorddune> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11138342/
[00:10] <kill> Does anyone have skype who would be willing to score me a stats.ethdev secret?
[00:10] <kill> I'd like to put my 17 MH/s up there
[00:11] <lorddune> Jordan_U: for dir in dev sys proc; do sudo mount --bind /$dir/ /mnt/$dir/; done
[00:11] <kill> microsoft skype = bullshit
[00:11] <Jordan_U> kill: Please watch your language.
[00:11] <lorddune> Jordan_U: sudo mount --bind /$dir/ /mnt/$dir/; done
[00:12] <lorddune> Jordan_U: sudo mount --bind /$dir/ /mnt/$dir/; done
[00:12] <Jordan_U> lorddune: Stop.
[00:12] <EriC^> lorddune: he meant to write the whole comment from for til done
[00:12] <lorddune> Jordan_U: sorry cut / paste working weird with this OS
[00:12] <EriC^> *command
[00:13] <lorddune> Jordan_U: syntax error near unexpected token `done'
[00:14] <Jordan_U> lorddune: Then you didn't copy / paste it correctly.
[00:15] <lorddune> Jordan_U: sorry I ran it right the forst time
[00:15] <lorddune> Jordan_U: as "for dir in dev sys proc; do sudo mount --bind /$dir/ /mnt/$dir/; done"
[00:15] <Jordan_U> lorddune: OK, so why are you mentioning it again now?
[00:16] <lorddune> Jordan_U: you asked me exactly what I ran
[00:16] <lorddune> Jordan_U: Are you asking me for something else? Sorry......
[00:16] <Jordan_U> lorddune: I meant the "su yourusername" command that was giving you the "run from a terminal" error.
[00:17] <lorddune> Jordan_U: Ohhhhh sorry! I ran "su dave"
[00:17] <Jordan_U> lorddune: Please "pastebinit /mnt/etc/passwd" Note that despite the name, this doesn't actually contain any passwords.
[00:18] <lorddune> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11138457/
[00:19] <pythonista> I am trying to get a mysql database set back up with a different directory than the default, but I am getting the error "Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist" Here is a full description of the problem with error messages: http://askubuntu.com/questions/623797/error-updating-mysql-package
[00:20] <jeeves_moss> is there a good program that makes a bunch of fake IRC users?  I want to test if I configured my server correctly.
[00:21] <Jordan_U> lorddune: OK. In the chroot, run "exit". That should bring you back to a "#" prompt.
[00:21] <Umeaboy> Anyone that is experiencing that the Tribler gui doesn't show what it downloads when it IS in fact downloading something?
[00:22] <Jordan_U> lorddune: Then run "passwd dave", which will hopefully allow you to set a password for you user.
[00:22] <Umeaboy> 6.3.0-GIT is my version.
[00:23] <Umeaboy> jeeves_moss: Just create duplicate servers and login with other username.
[00:23] <lorddune> Jordan_U: OHHH YEAH
[00:24] <Jordan_U> lorddune: Once that is done, try "su dave" twice again.
[00:25] <lorddune> Jordan_U: ahh from the other terminal, right?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> lorddune: No, it needs to be run from within the chroot or it won't have any relation to your installed system.
[00:25] <lorddune> Jordan_U: dave@ubuntu:/$ su dave su: must be run from a terminal
[00:26] <lorddune> Jordan_U: yeah, same message about running from a terminal again unfortunately
[00:26] <Jordan_U> lorddune: OK, I'm still not quite sure what's going on there. Unless someone else has any ideas, I'd say just reboot and see if it's fixed.
[00:28] <lorddune> Jordan_U: I will probably torch the system and do a fresh install after I back everything up
[00:28] <lorddune> Jordan_U: those upgrades always seem to have garbled packages
[00:29] <lorddune> Jordan_U: THANK YOU for your help! EriC^ too!
[00:30] <lorddune> Jordan_U: I'll pop back in and let you know one way or another in a bit.
[00:34] <lorddune> Jordan_U: no love. might just use Parted Magic to back up some files and format the HDD and start off fresh. Apreciate your efforts thhough.
[00:37] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Question: IRT lorddune's 'passwd' file; " dave:x:1000:1000:Dave Von Duhn,,,:/home/dave:/bin/bash "; what do the edditional fields " Von Duhn " signify ?
[00:37] <EriC^> it's his name
[00:38] <lorddune> Jordan_U: thus my nick here
[00:38] <EriC^> from netherlands?
[00:38] <lorddune> EriC^: dutch is van, german is von
[00:38] <EriC^> oh ok
[00:39] <lorddune> EriC^: no worries, I am in USA lool
[00:39] <EriC^> haha
[00:39] <est31> hi, should I file issues with the hexchat package on launchpad or on debian?
[00:40] <est31> (as in: is packaging "inherited" from debian, and therefore reporting bugs in launchpad is meaningless)
[00:40] <lorddune> EriC^: the crazy thing is I had my root as "Tower" and another user I always logged in as "Dave Von Duhn"
[00:40] <est31> is that the case?
[00:40] <bazhang> est31, try the channel #hexchat as well, the developer is very active
[00:40] <est31> no its a packaging problem
[00:40] <est31> bazhang, http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/
[00:41] <lorddune> EriC^: but when the uppgrade went to 14.04 it chopped the folder down to just plain old "Dave"
[00:41] <EriC^> lorddune: try creating another username
[00:41] <lorddune> EriC^: so when I get to current login screen I can try to login as "My Name" or as Guest
[00:41] <lorddune> EriC^: it won't llet me
[00:41] <est31> thanks though bazhang :)
[00:41] <EriC^> lorddune: why not?
[00:42] <lorddune> EriC^: idk
[00:42] <EriC^> lorddune: how'd you try?
[00:42] <lorddune> EriC^: a lot of stuff was stripped away when I updated such as Ubuntu 2D, Gnome, a ton oof drivers etc
[00:42] <lorddune> EriC^: it's not in the menu anymore
[00:43] <lorddune> EriC^: so i'm not even sure how to do it now
[00:43] <EriC^> try holding shift when the pc boots and go to recovery
[00:43] <lorddune> EriC^: nope that fails
[00:43] <EriC^> boot the the live usb again
[00:43] <EriC^> are you in it right now?
[00:44] <lorddune> EriC^: and believe it or not I actually have about 8 recovery versions, and they all have the password login fail loop
[00:44] <lorddune> EriC^: I can be, sure. on my laptop typing
[00:44] <gtuckerkellogg> How can I configure the launcher so an application is launched with specific command line options?
[00:44] <EriC^> ok, cool
[00:44] <lorddune> EriC^: I qm here now
[00:44] <EriC^> gtuckerkellogg: edit its .desktop file in /usr/share/applications
[00:45] <EriC^> lorddune: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[00:45] <lorddune> EriC^: whoa, you mean reboot the Live USB?
[00:45] <EriC^> yeah
[00:45] <EriC^> what do you mean? where are you right now?
[00:45] <lorddune> EriC^: OK
[00:45] <gtuckerkellogg> EriC^, thank you
[00:45] <TJ-> gtuckerkellogg: place the required .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications/
[00:46] <lorddune> EriC^: In the reboot area of the HDD
[00:46] <gtuckerkellogg> also, TJ-, thanks
[00:46] <lorddune> EriC^: on the login screen of 14.04
[00:46] <EriC^> lorddune: oh ok
[00:46] <EriC^> lorddune: try to reboot it
[00:46] <EriC^> and hold shift, then press e
[00:46] <TJ-> gtuckerkellogg: whenever possible you shouldn't alter system files but override them with user-specific changes, unless it needs to be system-wide. The reason is any package updates may/will replace the system files
[00:47] <EriC^> and add init=/bin/bash to the line that says linux vmlinuz ...blablabla
[00:47] <lorddune> EriC^: it's actually<TAB> to edit now
[00:47] <EriC^> hmm
[00:47] <lorddune> EriC^: I was dumbfounded by that change in 14.04
[00:48] <lorddune> EriC^: so I am in the "edit" area of live booot
[00:48] <EriC^> nah
[00:48] <EriC^> ok, cool add the init=/bin/bash part
[00:48] <EriC^> and press ctrl+x
[00:48] <lorddune> EriC^: I need to add nosplash and nomodeset for my fx card to work
[00:48] <gtuckerkellogg> TJ-, thanks, works perfectly
[00:48] <EriC^> lorddune: ok np
[00:49] <lorddune> EriC^: booting
[00:49] <EriC^> ok
[00:50] <lorddune> EriC^: i am seeing "critical medium errors" thhat i didnt see before
[00:50] <EriC^> mice
[00:50] <EriC^> *nice
[00:50] <lorddune> EriC^: wow this thing all messed up I think
[00:50] <EriC^> what happened?
[00:51] <lorddune> EriC^: it hung
[00:51] <EriC^> hmm
[00:51] <EriC^> boot the live usb
[00:51] <lorddune> EriC^: end kernel panic - not syncing
[00:51] <EriC^> O.o
[00:52] <lorddune> EriC^: booting without the command you wanted
[00:52] <EriC^> the live usb?
[00:53] <lorddune> EriC^: yes
[00:53] <EriC^> ok, cool
[00:53] <lorddune> EriC^: holy what the what seeing those errors again
[00:53] <lorddune> EriC^: but it did boot OK
[00:53] <EriC^> that sucks
[00:53] <EriC^> cool
[00:54] <EriC^> maybe you should fsck the partition or something?
[00:55] <lorddune> EriC^: idk, could be because I had my USB HDD on and that thing is whack-a-doodle now
[00:55] <EriC^> ok
[00:55] <EriC^> try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[00:55] <lorddune> EriC^: i was going to try and backup to that but will have to use discs i guuess
[00:55] <EriC^> you can backup from the live usb
[00:57] <lorddune> EriC^: done
[00:57] <lorddune> EriC^: may need to log oout and back in to do this faster
[00:57] <lorddune> EriC^: log in onn the live session on my desktop
[00:58] <lorddune> EriC^: brb logging
[00:58] <EriC^> ok
[00:59] <lorddune> EriC^: back
[00:59] <EriC^> wb
[00:59] <lorddune> EriC^: ty
[01:00] <lorddune> EriC^: what next? su <name> ?
[01:00] <EriC^> no, type adduser
[01:00] <EriC^> adduser <something>
[01:01] <lorddune> EriC^: adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[01:01] <EriC^> oh, nevermind
[01:01] <EriC^> type sudo chroot /mnt
[01:02] <lorddune> EriC^: just using sudo worked
[01:02] <EriC^> lorddune: we have to chroot first
[01:02] <lorddune> EriC^: I created a new name, now it wants a "Ful name" ??
[01:03] <EriC^> lorddune: nevermind, press ctrl+c
[01:03] <lorddune> EriC^: OK
[01:03] <lorddune> EriC^: fyi my new username is 'chucky'
[01:04] <EriC^> ok cool
[01:04] <EriC^> type pastebinit /etc/fstab
[01:04] <EriC^> im curious about those other 2 ext partitions
[01:05] <lorddune> EriC^: it is making me install pastebin yet again
[01:05] <EriC^> lorddune: wait, did you type sudo chroot /mnt earlier?
[01:05] <lorddune> EriC^: Nope
[01:05] <EriC^> oh man
[01:06] <EriC^> type it
[01:06] <lorddune> EriC^: just the dev/sda1
[01:06] <lorddune> EriC^: ok have the # now
[01:06] <EriC^> ok cool
[01:07] <EriC^> type useradd chucky
[01:07] <EriC^> i mean adduser chucky
[01:07] <lorddune> adduser chucky
[01:07] <lorddune> EriC^: ops lol. (it says already exists)
[01:08] <EriC^> O.o
[01:08] <lorddune> EriC^: now the pastebin?
[01:08] <EriC^> did you set chucky's password?
[01:08] <EriC^> try su chucky
[01:08] <lorddune> EriC^: yes, before
[01:09] <EriC^> oh ok
[01:09] <lorddune> EriC^: su chucky gives me a '$' now
[01:09] <EriC^> try login chucky
[01:09] <EriC^> oh
[01:09] <EriC^> ok
[01:09] <EriC^> type su chucky again
[01:09] <lorddune> EriC^: <sigh> same as before, "su must be run from a terminal"
[01:10] <EriC^> type exit
[01:10] <lorddune> EriC^: ok #
[01:10] <EriC^> ok type login chucky
[01:11] <lorddune> EriC^: holy toledo it says "Login icorrect"
[01:11] <EriC^> lol
[01:11] <lorddune> login
[01:11] <EriC^> type passwd chucky
[01:12] <lorddune> EriC^: I have a # prompt ow BC it timed out after 60 secs
[01:12] <EriC^> ok
[01:12] <EriC^> type passwd chucky
[01:12] <lorddune> i am using like 9 characters as a password with 1 number
[01:13] <lorddune> is that acceptable?
[01:13] <EriC^> yeah sure
[01:13] <lorddune> EriC^: password updated successfully
[01:13] <EriC^> cool
[01:13] <EriC^> type login chucky
[01:14] <lorddune> EriC^: WHOA
[01:14] <EriC^> whoa it worked or whoa wth
[01:14] <lorddune> EriC^: it did something...it's talking about Ubuntu
[01:14] <EriC^> lol
[01:15] <lorddune> EriC^: it did have a message about awk: cannot open blah blah
[01:15] <EriC^> oh
[01:15] <lorddune> EriC^: awk: cannot open /proc/uptime (No such file or directory) run-parts: /etc/update-motd.d/98-fsck-at-reboot exited with return code 1
[01:15] <EriC^> what's it doing now
[01:15] <EriC^> oh ok
[01:15] <EriC^> type id
[01:16] <lorddune> EriC^: No directory, logging in with HOME=/
[01:16] <EriC^> yeah
[01:16] <lorddune> EriC^: that was the final line
[01:16] <EriC^> oh ok cool
[01:16] <EriC^> so it worked
[01:16] <EriC^> type exit
[01:16] <lorddune> EriC^: uid=1001(chucky) gid=1001(chucky) groups=1001(chucky)
[01:16] <EriC^> nice
[01:16] <lorddune> EriC^: OK
[01:17] <EriC^> ok, did you give chucky sudo?
[01:17] <lorddune> EriC^: Imma gonna have to send you a paypal beer or two
[01:18] <lorddune> EriC^: reboot and try logging in as chucky ?
[01:18] <Charcoalcat> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11138975/ I found this solution to the OpenGL errors I've been having for months, which involves purging nvidia drivers, doing "install --reinstall" on several things, and reconfiguring xserver-xorg. Can someone tell me how to make it so I can undo these commands if they break something?
[01:18] <EriC^> haha i've been craving for a beer for like an hour since you mentioned it, that night you dont have cigs :(
[01:18] <lorddune> EriC^: I did not give chucky anything yet
[01:18] <Charcoalcat> (problem description if anyone wants it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11138963/ )
[01:18] <EriC^> lorddune: ok, give him sudo
[01:19] <est31> heyho I have following issue: a package of a ppa fails to install, because it overrides a file which is set by another package
[01:19] <est31> now that package isn't from the ppa
[01:19] <EriC^> lorddune: type usermod -aG sudo chucky
[01:19] <est31> but standard ubuntu
[01:19] <est31> now I want to remove that package
[01:19] <lorddune> EriC^: ok
[01:19] <est31> but the command apt-get remove packagename doesnt work
[01:19] <lorddune> EriC^: at $
[01:19] <est31> because there are unresolved dependencies
[01:20] <lorddune> EriC^: chucky@ubuntu
[01:20] <est31> which are precisely because of that conflict
[01:20] <est31> how can I resolve this?
[01:20] <EriC^> lorddune: type exit
[01:20] <lorddune> EriC^: it was denied
[01:21] <lorddune> EriC^: I changed big G to little g and it worked
[01:21] <lorddune> EriC^: oh nevermind, no it dodn't
[01:22] <EriC^> lorddune: type exit until you get #
[01:22] <lorddune> EriC^: ok
[01:22] <lorddune> EriC^: root@ubuntu:/# type usermod -aG sudo chucky usermod is /usr/sbin/usermod bash: type: -aG: not found sudo is /usr/bin/sudo bash: type: chucky: not found
[01:23] <EriC^> you wrote type :P
[01:24] <Jordan_U> EriC^: Rather than saying type foo, it's much more clear to say something like the following: Please run "foo --bar baz".
[01:24] <lorddune> EriC^: OK!
[01:24] <lorddune> EriC^: entered it and it didn't vatch fore, no smoke
[01:24] <lorddune> *catch fire
[01:25] <EriC^> lorddune: ok, cool :D
[01:25] <EriC^> Jordan_U: k thx
[01:25] <lorddune> Jordan_U: OMG that's FUNNY!
[01:25] <EriC^> lorddune: type exit and then restart
[01:26] <lorddune> EriC^: you mean restart PC?
[01:26] <EriC^> yeah
[01:26] <EriC^> type exit first though
[01:26] <lorddune> ok be back in a sec one way or another
[01:26] <EriC^> ok
[01:29] <est31> so any ideas?
[01:30] <OerHeks> est31, you better ask the ppa owner.
[01:30] <OerHeks> !ppa
[01:30] <est31> OerHeks, yes I know
[01:30] <est31> it is an error with the ppa
[01:30] <est31> just I want to remove a package outside of the ppa
[01:30] <OerHeks> est31, help him fixing it.
[01:30] <lorddune> EriC^: No love :'(
[01:31] <lorddune> EriC^: there was indeed a new user name 'chucky' there, but just like guest and root when I enter password it loops
[01:35] <explodes> Is it just accepted that you can enter your passwords in windows that pop up while you're entering your password? It happens like 3 times a day
[01:35] <explodes> I changed my settings so windows don't pop up over my active window, but it still freakin happens
[01:36] <explodes> Active text-entry-fields lose focus and some other application gets a bank password or a root password or a backup password
[01:36] <explodes> Some day you're gonna see my password pop into here I swear
[01:37] <buddd> can anyone explain to me this exception error when upgrading pip? And if I need to care about it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11139275/
[01:38] <explodes> buddd: what is the output of 'ls -al `which pip`'
[01:39] <buddd> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 204 Jan 30 22:02 /usr/local/bin/pip
[01:39] <Jordan_U> explodes: Are these password prompts from policykit?
[01:40] <explodes> Jordan_U: nope, just from a variety of applications, my browser, steam, skype, i dont even use skype, but whatever. it is indiscriminate
[01:41] <explodes> buddd: try #apt-get upgrade #apt-get install python-pip
[01:41] <explodes> buddd: nevermind dont do that :P
[01:41] <buddd> i won't
[01:42] <Jordan_U> explodes: Depending on your window manager you could manually configure the window to be always on top, which is admittedly not a great user experience.
[01:42] <explodes> buddd: pip is already installed with root access so you should be able to do $pip install --upgrade pip
[01:42] <explodes> Jordan_U: but at least I wont enter my password to $RANDOM_PERSON_PLACE_THING
[01:43] <buddd> install: unrecognized option '--upgrade'
[01:43] <explodes> ayyy
[01:43] <Jagst3r21> how do I check mysql memory usage on the terminal?
[01:43] <explodes> buddd: are you in a virtual environment? i assume not
[01:44] <explodes> buddd: and i dont see that you are
[01:44] <duoi> how well does ubuntu play with AMD graphics cards and processors?
[01:44] <buddd> i'm on my laptop
[01:44] <Jordan_U> explodes: Indeed. I don't know if compiz/unity support this but in most window managers you can right click the title bar and choose "Always on top". This will keep the window on top of any others until you right click the title bar again and uncheck that option.
[01:45] <explodes> buddd: oh. look into python virtual-environments for python development, it creates an isolated environment so your different projects dont stumble over each others dependencies
[01:45] <explodes> buddd: that doesn't solve your problem now though
[01:45] <buddd> yeah
[01:45] <explodes> buddd: try $sudo pip install -U pip
[01:45] <explodes> "it works for me"
[01:45] <buddd> same error
[01:46] <explodes> try "pip --version"
[01:46] <explodes> what do you get?
[01:46] <limbera> if i run this command inside a dir
[01:46] <limbera> rm *.gpx
[01:46] <explodes> 6.0.7 should def. have the -U or --upgrade option...
[01:46] <limbera> it will remove only .gpx file's that are inside that dir yes
[01:47] <limbera> it will NOT do it recursively?
[01:47] <explodes> will NOT
[01:47] <explodes> correc.
[01:47] <limbera> ok cool
[01:47] <limbera> just making sure
[01:47] <limbera> huge problems if it doesn't do that :p
[01:47] <buddd> pip 6.0.7 from /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages (python 2.7)
[01:47] <est31> OerHeks, thanks for mentioning dpkg -r
[01:48] <explodes> maybe make a backup limbera. see http://explod.io
[01:48] <explodes> i nuked my whole blog
[01:48] <explodes> shouldnt have trusted rm
[01:48] <explodes> -and my incompetence
[01:48] <releaf> sorry newbie question how do you stop default install from going to login screen after period of activity?
[01:48] <releaf> i looked in power control panel and displays but it wasn't there
[01:49] <explodes> releaf: security
[01:49] <explodes> releaf: security & privacy
[01:49] <releaf> brightness and lock found it
[01:50] <releaf> i'm still on 14.04
[01:53] <explodes> buddd: idk what to tell you if you can't just run the damn upgrade :P
[01:54] <buddd> some people in #python know whats going on, unlike me
[02:10] <M4ca> someone have troubles shutting down your system?? I mean, when you clic on turn off icon, it only close your active season, but it doesn't turn off the pc... I say that, because I found the solution for that and I can't remember the user...
[02:20] <fox_> a brasnet ainda existe?
[02:20] <fox_> a brasnet ainda existe?
[02:20] <M4ca> I question, why sometimes my wlan0 interface is down??
[02:21] <M4ca> desconozco en que consiste, fox_
[02:22] <M4ca> when I run the command line ifconfig wlan0 up, then it show me that there is a Input and Output, or write input or something like it... and the command don't set up my wlan0 interface, so, I have to reboot my system
[02:24] <codepython7771> when you partition a new disk to install ubuntu (External drive for mac)- first i make a swap and then a /?
[02:24] <M4ca> You mean a dual with OSX?
[02:25] <codepython7771> M4ca: I want to boot from an external drive
[02:25] <codepython7771> M4ca: do not want to touch the internal ssd
[02:25] <M4ca> ah
[02:25] <codepython7771> M4ca: Also: What do i select for: "Device for boot loader instructions" - is it my external drive where i am installing ubuntu?
[02:26] <M4ca> but did you installed ubuntu there??
[02:26] <Guest30343> Yes, definately. If you install Grub to your main disk bad things will happen
[02:27] <M4ca> Im sorry because I don't have an Apple computer, but, like in windows, at start, in the bios there is a option to start device...
[02:28] <codepython7771> should / and home be on different partitions?
[02:28] <codepython7771> or can i just ask "/" to eat up the hard drive after swap?
[02:29] <theoletom> Somehow I turned on get updates from unsupported backports. And now my notification bubbles are screwed up and who knows what else. How do I revert my settings back to normal? I have already used apt-get update and apt-get check. All of my dependencies are fine. Second issue: I downloaded xfce4 to try out the desktop environment. I didn't like it. So I used apt-get purge xfce4. Somehow I could still log into xfce. Then I used apt-get autoremove to ge
[02:29] <theoletom> t rid of any worthless files. It got rid of a bunch of xfce stuff. I can still get into xfce and it is very broken. I could barely figure out how to log out. Please help me.
[02:29] <wafflejock> codepython7771, either way lots of people like a separate /home in case they want to re-install the OS but keep their user data and user config files
[02:30] <wafflejock> codepython7771, having both use the same partition is okay too though no harm in it just more work if you want to blow away the OS to reinstall or clean upgrade without moving around your user files
[02:30] <codepython7771> wafflejock: i see. Thanks.
[02:30] <codepython7771> wafflejock: The only problem is , I've to estimate the size of / vs home in advance
[02:31] <wafflejock> codepython7771, right it's a bit hard to know, with gparted from a livecd/usb you can typically resize partitions without too much trouble though if you guess wrong and need to reallocate
[02:31] <theoletom> if someone decides to help me. Send me a private dialog please. Thanks in advance.
[02:32] <codepython7771> wafflejock: thanks
[02:32] <wafflejock> codepython7771, yup np
[02:35] <wafflejock> theoletom, you can use sudo apt-get install packagename --reinstall, to have apt-get install reinstall some package/metapackage and redo the configuration for the program as well
[02:36] <codepython7771> l - i installed ubuntu on a separate external drive. Now when I boot into mac, the external drive does not show up as bootable. The blue light is on. any ideas ?
[02:37] <Guest54977> Hello there. Wondering to anyone who knows, where an ubuntu backup can be retrieved from. I'm backing up my files using the native backups application, and I want to move the result to my external hard drive. This way I can uninstall ubuntu, then do a fresh install, bring the backup back onto the drive and restore my session. My reason for doing this is so I can install windows before installing ubuntu.
[02:37] <theoletom> wafflejock: It's not a program. It's a desktop envirment. There shouldn
[02:37] <Guest54977> Did some searching on my system and googling, but couldn't find an answer
[02:38] <theoletom> be a trace of it left yet there still is.
[02:38] <theoletom> I think i might just need a fresh install of Ubuntu. If there isn't a way to revert to default settings
[02:39] <releaf> what's your opinion on a $500 laptop that will be a dedicated Ubuntu machine?
[02:39] <releaf> are any of the pre-loaded ones good deals?
[02:40] <releaf> if not, are there any laptops that are known for being oem-heavy or otherwise ubuntu friendly?
[02:43] <codepython7771> my usb stick shows up as bootable (EFI) when i boot my Mac. But not my external hard drive on which i just installed ubuntu. How do i make it bootable from mac hardware?
[02:47] <Jordan_U> codepython7771: Did you install Ubuntu to this external drive from a different machine?
[02:49] <Umeaboy> releaf: What country you from?
[02:50] <wafflejock> releaf, there are a few Ubuntu dedicated laptop providers like Umeaboy is asking depends on where you are
[02:50] <wafflejock> releaf, Dell's XPS 13 has an option for Ubuntu as well
[02:50] <Umeaboy> Use http://www.pricegrabber.com if you're from the states.
[02:50] <wafflejock> but is more pricey than that
[02:50] <Umeaboy> Then buy a laptop with the smallest harddrive and replace ut, ;)
[02:51] <Umeaboy> it
[02:52] <wafflejock> releaf, I've got a System76 machine just to support a company that pushes Ubuntu and offers support for upgrading etc. but they're basically rebranded clevo and other laptops from what I've seen and heard, there's another one for the EU but I forget the name Z something
[02:53] <hdon> hi all :) ubu 14.04 here. gimp doesn't have gimp hot keys, it has photoshop or somethign hotkeys (control+e = export now, NOT what it used to do!) why is this and how do i fix it? thank you.
[02:53] <Umeaboy> Asus EEE PC 701 630 MHz 512 MB 4GB 7" costs 2890 SEK. ;)
[02:53] <Umeaboy> hdon: Why not upgrade to 15.04?
[02:54] <hdon> Umeaboy: cause i don't have time to install drivers every day
[02:54] <wafflejock> hdon, ctrl+shift+e to export I'm pretty sure, didn't notice the keybinding change but I'm a light gimp user
[02:54] <codepython7771> my ubuntu 14.04.2 booted on mac does not see any wireless networks. Any ideas how to fix this?
[02:54] <Umeaboy> OK. Ask the devs of gimp then. ;)
[02:54] <hdon> wafflej0ck_: control+e used to size the window to the size of your image (as best it could, accounting for zoom)
[02:55] <hdon> i guess i will have to
[02:55]  * hdon connects to gimpnet
[02:55] <Umeaboy> codepython7771: Did you choose to install thirdparty stuff and updates during the installation as well?
[02:56] <hdon> i'm just saying... ubuntu and gnome keep copying apple
[02:57] <hdon> there used to be a macports package for gimp that used macosx's native windowing, and came with photoshop-like hotkeys by default
[02:57] <hdon> so, someone has gone too far this tim
[02:57] <hdon> time*
[03:03] <Dusti[n]> hello everyone! need to ask if there is a way to update my bios in ubunutu?
[03:09] <est31> Dusti[n], yes
[03:10] <est31> check out flashrom http://flashrom.org/Flashrom
[03:10] <est31> you only need the actual bios rom file
[03:10] <Dusti[n]> Do you mind explaining how? is it complicated?
[03:10] <est31> perhaps there is a higher level way
[03:10] <est31> what is your motherboard
[03:11] <Dusti[n]> oh ok
[03:11] <Dusti[n]> um all I know this far is its a HP amd64 x4
[03:12] <est31> can you run this in a console and paste the output at pastebin.ubuntu.com
[03:12] <est31> sudo dmidecode -t 2
[03:13] <est31> and paste the link here :)
[03:15] <Dusti[n]> um yes one sec
[03:17] <Dusti[n]> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11140326/
[03:21] <est31> Dusti[n], where is the download page for your laptop's BIOS?
[03:21] <Dusti[n]> its a desktop
[03:21] <est31> or desktop
[03:25] <Dusti[n]> thats kinda what im trying to figure out its an hp but they say goto kernel.org
[03:27] <est31> try the command "sudo dmidecode | grep -A3 '^System Information'"
[03:30] <Dusti[n]> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11140462/
[03:32] <est31> nice
[03:32] <Dusti[n]> http://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-pavilion-a6700-desktop-pc-series/3823602/model/3875155#Z7_3054ICK0K8UDA0AQC11TA930O2
[03:32] <Dusti[n]> this is my tower here
[03:32] <Dusti[n]> if that helps any
[03:34] <est31> why do you want to update bios btw
[03:37] <Dusti[n]> its just old and i figure i could get more performance out of it... ive upgraded the ram to the max and video card and stuff and ive seen bios's with alot more options and info about diff things
[03:39] <Geometrian> I upgraded to 15.04 with kernel 3.19.0-17, ran update-grub and rebooted, and yet it still boots to 3.16.0-31. Help?
[03:39] <pEYEd> my wireless apater is missing. lspci -k and lsmod show the kernel driver loaded, but ifconfig -a does not show the device   https://bpaste.net/show/eb1027aab44e  ??
[03:40] <Dusti[n]> well i guess ill try again another day thanks for your help est31
[03:43] <warhawk88> Trying to get nginx to run at startup. I issued the following command "sudo update-rc.d nginx enable" but it does not run at boot. Any ideas?
[03:44] <Geometrian> Interestingly, the 3.19.0-17 kernel appears in /boot/grub/menu.lst, yet does not show up in the boot menu.
[03:47] <diuneigh> can someone help me clear up inodes?  I'm at 100%.
[03:53] <codepython7771> Anyone running ubuntu on macbookpro10,1 here?
[03:56] <Kion> How can I make Ubuntu prefer one wireless network over another of itks known networks
[03:58] <lei_> quit
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Kion: you can edit the connections manually: disable 'connect network automatic' on ssid's you dont wanna use
[03:58] <est31> Kion, networkmanager itself supports it.
[03:59] <Kion> lotuspsychje: so no way to have two available networks with the connect automatic but prefering one over the other
[03:59] <est31> do you use ubuntu or anything else?
[03:59] <est31> like kubuntu
[03:59] <Kion> est31: Ubuntu
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> Kion: i think if 2 ssid's are close its gonna try to connect them randomly the most nearby
[04:00] <riex> Hi. I run an web server, but on our website the characters Å,Æ,Ø is showed as questioned. How can i fix that issue??
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> Kion: so you have to disable network2, you dont using
[04:01] <est31> Kion, can you run "NetworkManager --version" in console?
[04:01] <est31> err run "sudo NetworkManager --version"
[04:02] <est31> funny they require root :)
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> riex: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know or ##httpd
[04:02] <codepython7771> Whats the best kernel i can move to for 14.04 without getting in trouble? :)
[04:03] <codepython7771> most up2date i meant
[04:03] <walsal> I have installed nvidia-current and nvidia-settings on xubuntu 14.02. However, when I go to "Additional Drivers" it tells me "No additional drivers available". What am I doing wrong?
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | codepython7771
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> walsal: if no others showing, you using probably the best
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> walsal: check with sudo lshw -C video
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> walsal: whats behind driver=
[04:03] <gzcwnk> if you are uptdate onpatching you are good to go
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> codepython7771: the best kernel, is the one working best for your machine
[04:05] <est31> Kion, as it seems, networkmanager 1.0 has this feature, but ubuntu 15.04 only has 0.9.10.0 .
[04:05] <walsal> lotuspsychje: This is the output of that command https://paste.ee/r/KUR8k
[04:06] <walsal> from what I can tell it doesn't specify which driver it is using
[04:07] <est31> This means that that feature isn't available yet Kion until ubuntu 15.10
[04:07] <est31> and even then it might require a custom tool
[04:08] <Geometrian> riex: That's a web design issue. Look into character encodings. Use UTF-8.
[04:12] <walsal> lotuspsychje: Also in Xorg's log I can see a line saying "(EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your system kernerl's log" and dmesg tells me "nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or  required key missing - tainting kernel"
[04:14] <KD7JWC> i understand this may be th wrong channel but its ubuntu related, i have the 15.04 arm for pi2 installed and i rebooted the system after building some apps and when i log in and try anything with sudo it says i am not a member of that group, before reboot i was, i tried su so i could add user and su will not work with the only password used for the system, could i get a little help with that please
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> walsal: grafix chipset and ubuntu version?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> !su | KD7JWC
[04:15] <KD7JWC> i fully understand what sudo and su are, i need help reinstating those when even su doesnot accept my password now
[04:16] <walsal> lotuspsychje: I'm using xubuntu 14.04.2 and nvidia card is a "GeForce GTX 750 Ti"
[04:17] <rofltech> KD7JWC: if you can't get su or sudo to work you can always boot to usb and then mount as a chroot and add yourself to the sudo group
[04:17] <rofltech> or set a root pw
[04:18] <Ben64> shouldn't set a root password
[04:19] <KD7JWC> its a pi2 it wont boot to usb but thank you
[04:19] <rofltech> KD7JWC: raspberry pi?  take the sdcard out and put it in another comp?
[04:20] <rofltech> i have an original one and that works...dont know about the new ones
[04:20] <Ben64> KD7JWC: what is the output of "groups"
[04:20] <KD7JWC> pi2 syslog
[04:21] <KD7JWC> thanks for the willingness to help
[04:21] <Kion> est31: my version is 0.9.10.0
[04:22] <Ben64> KD7JWC: you're only a member of two groups?
[04:22] <est31> Kion, then networkmanager doesnt support yet, you'll have to wait for 15.10
[04:22] <est31> or manually compile
[04:22] <est31> don't know though whether you are experienced enough for that
[04:23] <KD7JWC> i was a member of almost all of them including dialout
[04:23] <KD7JWC> i dont know how this can be re[[aired to be honest and i have 5 hours of build time for this experiment and it just stopped working
[04:23] <jzp113> hi guys how to run a script when the system started?
[04:24] <KD7JWC> well sudo and su capabilities
[04:26] <KD7JWC> if su was working i could then ad the pi2 account, the only account to the needed groups
[04:26] <Ben64> KD7JWC: use single user mode or text mode or recovery mode, not sure what ubuntu on the pi has
[04:27] <KD7JWC> do you know how to access that mode?
[04:28] <Ben64> KD7JWC: not on the raspberry pi, you may want to ask in #raspberrypi or #ubuntu-arm
[04:28] <dominolx> KD7JWC: sudo raspi-config
[04:29] <dominolx> one of the options should have it
[04:29] <Ben64> dominolx: sudo doesn't work
[04:29] <codepython7771> dragging a window is not working (mtrack + macbook pro + ubuntu) - any ideas how to debug/fix this?
[04:29] <Ben64> KD7JWC: or just pop the sd card out and do it manually
[04:29] <KD7JWC> there isnt a raspi-config on ubuntu 15.04
[04:29] <Ben64> and be more careful with commands that mess with groups
[04:30] <KD7JWC> i installed x11vnc server set it to auto start and when i rebooted so i could work remotely i was only a member of 2 groups after reboot
[04:31] <KD7JWC> but anyway, might you have time to walk me through how to fix it please?
[04:34] <Ben64> KD7JWC: you must have run something like usermod to add yourself to a group but forgot to append
[04:34] <codepython7771> when i issue sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-mtrack --- on 14.04 -- I get unmet dependencies?http://yarenty.blogspot.com/2014/08/how-to-fix-macbook-pro-touchpad-on.html
[04:35] <KD7JWC> hmm
[04:36] <KD7JWC> sudo usermod -
[04:36] <KD7JWC> grr sec
[04:36] <KD7JWC> my hands shake sorry
[04:36] <KD7JWC> i did sudo usermod -G syslog pi2
[04:36] <KD7JWC> is that wrong?
[04:36] <Ben64> yes
[04:37] <KD7JWC> oh please enlightenme please do
[04:37] <Ben64> usermod -a -G syslog pi2
[04:37] <codepython7771> does anyone know how to fix this-> http://askubuntu.com/questions/610505/broken-packages-error-while-trying-to-install-xserver-xorg-input-mtrack
[04:37] <KD7JWC> what does the -a do for it?
[04:37] <Ben64> append
[04:38] <KD7JWC> instead of only right?
[04:38] <Ben64> yep
[04:38] <KD7JWC> duh
[04:38] <KD7JWC> my fault then
[04:38] <Ben64> easier way is "adduser <user> <newgroup>"
[04:38] <KD7JWC> from this dekstop how do i fix my flash drive os if you will?
[04:38] <Ben64> i gave you a few options above
[04:39] <KD7JWC> i will rember the user add
[04:39] <KD7JWC> hmm looking up sorry they passed me by
[04:41] <KD7JWC> Ben64: i went up to the top of the channel but did not see your instructions sorry ould you up arrow and repaste please
[04:41] <Ben64> use single user mode or text mode or recovery mode, you may want to ask in #raspberrypi or #ubuntu-arm, or just pop the sd card out and do it manually
[04:42] <KD7JWC> ok do what manualy modify the group layout?
[04:43] <KD7JWC> if so what folder/file do i do that to
[04:43] <KD7JWC> ive never had to do this so its unclear
[04:44] <Ben64> you edit /etc/group , put your username on the line that starts with sudo
[04:44] <KD7JWC> mmm ok thank you
[04:45] <KD7JWC> will that solve the problem with su and my password for that not working?
[04:46] <BinaryStatus> Hey guys when I use the "hdparm --user-master u --security-set-pass p /dev/sda" command on my ssd it completes in seconds. Is this normal? Figured it would take longer. I'm selling this laptop and don't want anybody to be able to recover stuff off my ssd. Advice?
[04:46] <Ben64> KD7JWC: you shouldn't be using su
[04:47] <KD7JWC> usually i would agree
[04:47] <codepython7771> My ubuntu box hangs at the point showing "starting configure virtual network devices" - any ideas whats wrong?
[04:51] <BinaryStatus> Any help on wiping my ssd guys?
[04:51] <KD7JWC> well valuabel 2 lessons learned thank you Ben64
[04:52] <Kion> BinaryStatus: use shred command or srm
[04:54] <BinaryStatus> well its an ssd and I already used "hdparm --user-master u --security-set-pass p /dev/sda"
[04:54] <BinaryStatus> the question is, is it normal for it to complete so quickly?
[04:54] <Kion> BinaryStatus: if by wipe you mean secure deleting else just use Gparted and format your partition
[04:54] <BinaryStatus> I'm talking under 30 seconds quick
[04:54] <jzp113> hi guys how to write a init.d when the system start
[04:55] <BinaryStatus> the issue Kion is that ssd's have even wear leveling and a simple format simply won't do for a secure erase
[04:55] <Kion> jzp113: I don't know on the new version of ubuntu but would love to hear the answer
[04:55] <BinaryStatus> and shred won't work for a ssd
[04:55] <BinaryStatus> so I used hdparm to invoke the secure erase command built into the ssd's firmware
[04:55] <Kion> BinaryStatus: try srm
[04:55] <BinaryStatus> supposedly this is supposed to be quite good and secure
[04:56] <BinaryStatus> whats srm?
[04:56] <Kion> BinaryStatus: Dont trust hardware firmware specially on deleting data
[04:57] <BinaryStatus> Ok I hear you Kion what is srm?
[04:57] <Kion> BinaryStatus: another secure remove program, better than shred
[04:58] <Kion> BinaryStatus: you might need to install srm first, I am not shure if it comes with ubuntu or not, but   sudo apt-get install srm should do
[04:58] <BinaryStatus> and this works on ssd's? >.>
[04:59] <Kion> BinaryStatus: That I don't know I would love to have an ssd, but basicly it overwrites your files with random data, then with zeros then deletes them
[04:59] <BinaryStatus> roger
[04:59] <BinaryStatus> then it will not work with an ssd
[04:59] <BinaryStatus> thank you though for trying to help me I appreciate it
[04:59] <Kion> BinaryStatus: why not?
[05:00] <BinaryStatus> I could 0 out my ssd all day
[05:00] <BinaryStatus> but the thing is
[05:00] <BinaryStatus> the way nand works is it keeps data in layers
[05:00] <BinaryStatus> and will redirect the stream to flash
[05:00] <BinaryStatus> thus keeping layers of data safe
[05:00] <BinaryStatus> it does this so that each nand gets written to evenly
[05:00] <BinaryStatus> thus a nand doens't go out
[05:00] <BinaryStatus> its a whack thing ssd's do
[05:01] <BinaryStatus> what I need to do is set all nand states to 0
[05:01] <BinaryStatus> and thats what hparm can do
[05:01] <BinaryStatus> but it moves so quickly
[05:01] <BinaryStatus> im not sure its doing anything
[05:01] <BinaryStatus> I'm using some forensic tools right now to see if anything is recoverable and so far so good
[05:01] <BinaryStatus> but man fuck ssd's for that same reason
[05:02] <BinaryStatus> or excuse my language
[05:02] <Kion> BinaryStatus: well sorry, I did not know all that!
[05:02] <BinaryStatus> screw ssd's
[05:02] <BinaryStatus> oh no hey its ok
[05:02] <BinaryStatus> I don't think it's well known
[05:02] <BinaryStatus> I appreciate the help like I said
[05:04] <Kion> BinaryStatus: After what you said, it seems to me that the only way I would trust to 100% is "Sudo Hit the SSD with all your might with a freaking hammer and repeat with the resulting pieces"
[05:04] <BinaryStatus> lol
[05:04] <CyberNot> if you are trying to securely remove your data; have you considered encrypting then deleting?
[05:04] <BinaryStatus> yea if I wsa that worried I would dispose of the drive agreed
[05:04] <BinaryStatus> Cyber yes I have actually
[05:04] <BinaryStatus> after I run these forensic tests to see if anything can be recovered
[05:04] <BinaryStatus> I will do just that
[05:06] <Kion> CyberNot: Great idea
[05:06] <BinaryStatus> right now I'm using testdisk, foremost, and scalpel to run some tests if it passes all three I will feel more at ease
[05:07] <BinaryStatus> so far testdisk has passed and I'm running photorec right now
[05:07] <Kion> CyberNot: the problem is that the cleartext data was already stored on the hdd and the encrypted will be "new" data right?
[05:07] <BinaryStatus> well the issue is that with an ssd
[05:07] <BinaryStatus> even if I encrypt it
[05:07] <BinaryStatus> if the data is still on a lower layer
[05:07] <BinaryStatus> it will only encrypt an upper layer
[05:07] <BinaryStatus> data will still be present
[05:08] <BinaryStatus> so I have to make sure all that shit is gone first
[05:08] <BinaryStatus> or it will be for naught
[05:10] <CyberNot> I am probably wrong, but isn't the point of encryption to secure all data on the drive? That would mean that  a "container" would be created around all existing data.
[05:11] <BinaryStatus> negative
[05:11] <BinaryStatus> well
[05:11] <BinaryStatus> youre right in the defintion
[05:11] <BinaryStatus> but wrong on how ssd's store data
[05:11] <BinaryStatus> the pain is
[05:12] <BinaryStatus> that you need to imagine each nand container with levels right? Now when data is written to said container it writes at a certain level. It's firmware makes it so that as it writes data it moves up a level if it comes by the same nand space again
[05:12] <BinaryStatus> the reason is that each nand block has a limited write amount
[05:12] <BinaryStatus> so if it handeled data like a mechanical you would write to these sections over and over and this would wear it out
[05:12] <BinaryStatus> once a nand block is at it's write life thats it its done forver no brining it back
[05:13] <BinaryStatus> so to stop this
[05:13] <BinaryStatus> they made it so it writes in levels evenly
[05:13] <BinaryStatus> so for example on a hdd when you delete data say in windows we know that it doesn't it just marks it to be written over right?
[05:13] <BinaryStatus> Same thing with nand memory accept it bumbs it up a level and keeps the old version under it
[05:14] <BinaryStatus> so when you write data in a stream say encrypting or saving a huge file
[05:14] <CyberNot> Okay, so say you have a 128GB drive and you create a 128Gb container. You will reach everything.  There is no way you wont
[05:14] <BinaryStatus> it only writes to the surface
[05:14] <BinaryStatus> yes and there will be a files underneath that
[05:14] <BinaryStatus> nand flash doesn't work that way
[05:14] <BinaryStatus> would you like some sources?
[05:14] <CyberNot> Yeah, this is really interesting to me
[05:14] <BinaryStatus> I would be happy to provide
[05:14] <dprc> some firmwares dynamically remap blocks too
[05:14] <BinaryStatus> one second let me look some stuff up for you
[05:15] <CyberNot> cool, thanks
[05:15] <CyberNot> I haven't had a need to wipe an SSD yet; but sure it will come up
[05:15] <BinaryStatus> first check this out
[05:15] <BinaryStatus> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.micron.com%2F~%2Fmedia%2Fdocuments%2Fproducts%2Ftechnical-note%2Fnand-flash%2Ftn2961_wear_leveling_in_nand.pdf&ei=4oBVVe71H4KGyASNmIHYDQ&usg=AFQjCNGM3OOBkO6B7iIpIXeB4OkELHNJrQ&bvm=bv.93564037,d.aWw
[05:15] <BinaryStatus> whoah one sec
[05:15] <BinaryStatus> bad url
[05:15] <BinaryStatus> my bad
[05:15] <BinaryStatus> one sec
[05:16] <BinaryStatus> good ole wikipedia (I know..)
[05:17] <BinaryStatus> http://lifehacker.com/5767469/secure-erase-methods-wont-work-on-your-solid-state-drive
[05:18] <BinaryStatus> For the same reasons encryption is pointless if the proper steps havent been taken
[05:18] <BinaryStatus> essentially what the secure erase command does on a ssd is it voltage spikes it and makes it dump all nand blocks and puts them back to 0
[05:18] <BinaryStatus> so you're not even writing anything to it
[05:18] <BinaryStatus> a bit hard on the shelf life but it works
[05:19] <CyberNot> thanks for the link
[05:19] <BinaryStatus> np
[05:19] <BinaryStatus> now if I would have encrypted from the start
[05:19] <BinaryStatus> I would be in a different situation
[05:19] <BinaryStatus> because it would have no previous data stored
[05:19] <Lei> -
[05:20] <BinaryStatus> so just thing of a 128 gig as a flat plain that has say 20 levels on each block and each time it goes up a level it's another 128 gigs if that makes it any clear
[05:20] <BinaryStatus> I know I'm not explaining this right and I'm sorry for that I just have never had to explain this to anyone
[05:22] <nasevz> Since upgrade to Vivid, I can only use English text entry. I can change text entry indicator using mouse (shortcut is not working), but even if another entry is displayed, English remains active.
[05:23] <CyberNot> okay so I have an Intel  730 series SSD in my system. I just had a look at the Intel Solid-State Drive Toolbox it came with. Turns out it provides a "Secure Erase"
[05:23] <nasevz> Can anybody help me?
[05:23] <BinaryStatus> indeed
[05:23] <BinaryStatus> and that is what you want to use
[05:24] <BinaryStatus> mine did not however
[05:24] <BinaryStatus> but the command is still present in firmware
[05:24] <dprc> !ask > nasevz
[05:24] <BinaryStatus> so I had to boot up linux to invoke it
[05:24] <dprc> oh that _was_ from you >_<
[05:24] <BinaryStatus> but yea for the most part that secure erase command is legit
[05:24] <BinaryStatus> the whole reason I was worried was that it went to fast I was like dafuq
[05:25] <BinaryStatus> but I'm halfway through my forensic test now and so far nothing
[05:25] <BinaryStatus> I'm fairly sure it worked flawlessly
[05:25] <BinaryStatus> but who knows some l33t hax0r might be able to get some headers
[05:25] <BinaryStatus> I doubt it though
[05:26] <CyberNot> Sounds like you are on the right track; and is definitely a learning experience for me
[05:26] <BinaryStatus> Hey man I'm glad you heard it from me before something bad happened and you had to wipe data and did it the wrong way :p
[05:27] <BinaryStatus> You should check out a defcon sometime I watched a talk a few years back about some forensic experts that worked with law enforcement to recover data cases
[05:27] <CyberNot> But, I have always told my clients - " if you want to securely wipe your drive; a hammer does the trick!"
[05:27] <BinaryStatus> it blew my mind
[05:27] <BinaryStatus> ever since I have been paranoid
[05:27] <BinaryStatus> if these guys can do it joe shmoe can
[05:28] <BinaryStatus> beleive that
[05:28] <Spiro> Thank god I finally ditched windows
[05:28] <BinaryStatus> and yea a hammer works
[05:28] <BinaryStatus> then flush the platter shards :p
[05:28] <BinaryStatus> mwahaha
[05:28] <CyberNot> lol
[05:29] <BinaryStatus> I'm not too sure how recoverable a nand chip would be if broken
[05:29] <BinaryStatus> I would assume it would be beyond conventional engineering to bring it back
[05:29] <BinaryStatus> without a hefty pricetag
[05:29] <BinaryStatus> if not impossible
[05:29] <dprc> this is an interesting talk for storage and recovery: "Writing a Thumbdrive from Scratch [29c3]"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8Im0_KUEf8
[05:29] <Spiro> gorilla glue
[05:29] <Spiro> and a lot of nano magic
[05:30] <BinaryStatus> lol
[05:30] <dprc> could recover with electron microscopy
[05:30] <dprc> if that is your threat model have bigger problems to worry about though
[05:31] <BinaryStatus> that stuff is a myth though. Only 3 letter angencies are gonna go that far and only for good reason
[05:31] <BinaryStatus> EM I mean
[05:31] <BinaryStatus> like thats some hardcore stuff
[05:31] <BinaryStatus> I know it's possible
[05:31] <BinaryStatus> but no way a regular leo or case would use that
[05:31] <BinaryStatus> unless it was very high profile
[05:32] <BinaryStatus> even then they can only get such tiny amounts it would be used not for pictures but to recover code
[05:32] <BinaryStatus> as far as my knowledge goes on it at least
[05:32] <BinaryStatus> I mean for me I used this drive to code on
[05:32] <BinaryStatus> so thats my big thing
[05:32] <BinaryStatus> I don't want people recovering any source
[05:33] <BinaryStatus> as long as they cant do that I'm fine
[05:33] <joey_lad> hello
[05:33] <BinaryStatus> Hey
[05:33] <BinaryStatus> How's it going joey?
[05:33] <BinaryStatus> Hey guys side question, anybody elses allergies been going bonkers lately?
[05:34] <BinaryStatus> Man I feel like I'm going mad
[05:34] <joey_lad> its going good binary, you?
[05:34] <BinaryStatus> It's going alright man thanks for asking
[05:34] <BinaryStatus> wish I didn't have allergies though :/
[05:35] <BinaryStatus> I have popped like 3 antihistamines today no relief
[05:35] <BinaryStatus> Why aren't are scientists making this a priority dang it
[05:35] <BinaryStatus> our*
[05:35] <joey_lad> algorithms
[05:36] <xmeng> -
[05:36] <joey_lad> nerd
[05:37] <joey_lad> losers
[05:37] <BinaryStatus> we just need to formulate a way to block H1-H3 receptors for good and we will be alright :p
[05:37] <joey_lad> sorry
[05:37] <joey_lad> i love u
[05:40] <BinaryStatus> Any of you use reddit?
[05:40] <BinaryStatus> http://i.imgur.com/6Sn1QIz.gifv dah best
[05:47] <somsip> !ot | BinaryStatus
[06:11] <nasevz> Since upgrade to Vivid, I can only use English text entry. I can change text entry indicator using mouse (shortcut is not working), but even if another entry is displayed, English remains active.
[06:14] <dodeluser> I have a luks encrypted ubuntu 14.04. luks-device uses the full disk size (except boot partition) and root partition goes over the full size. I now want to install a 2nd ecnrypted system (ubuntu 15.05) without loosing my 14.04... is this possible???
[06:22] <InFlames> anyone here know how to share my desktop over webcamstudio?
[06:29] <Afdla> any ideas why my wired network connection disconnects every now and then for ~10 seconds?
[06:29] <Afdla> never happened on windows
[06:30] <lym_> 大家好
[06:30] <lym_> 我是海绵宝宝
[06:30] <lym_> 草拟吗
[06:30] <lym_> 管理员
[06:30] <lym_> 提我啊
[06:31] <lym_> 傻逼管理员
[06:32] <bigsky> hi all
[06:32] <bigsky> why i cannot find ctags in ubuntu
[06:33] <lym_> what does ctags mean?
[06:33] <bigsky> lym_: ctag is software
[06:33] <lym_> ok
[06:34] <lym_> maybe you can baidu
[06:34] <bigsky> lym_: baidu ge dan
[06:34] <lym_> wo qu nima
[06:35] <lym_> baidu ni tama bu zhidao
[06:35] <bigsky> lym_: gun duzi
[06:35] <lym_> ni zhuang shenme shabi
[06:35] <cq-aux> heya, trying to install reaver and it says it needs pcap but  I've got libpcap, so how do I 'tell' ./configure 'where'  libpcap is please?
[06:35] <bigsky> lym_: no zuo no die, you zuo, you die
[06:35] <lym_> bigsky 你是二逼不
[06:36] <lym_> die你全家
[06:36] <bigsky> lym_: luanma
[06:36] <lym_> 你全家火葬场
[06:37] <lym_> 你是华人？
[06:37] <lym_> bigsky
[06:37] <lym_> are you chinese?
[06:38] <bigsky> i can install ctags now
[06:38] <lym_> are there any people alive?
[06:38] <lym_> are you chinese?
[06:38] <lym_> bigsky?
[06:39] <lym_> hey
[06:39] <lym_> bigsky?
[06:40] <lym_> are you alive?
[06:48] <Hali_303> hi! I'm using 14.04 and have the problem that the samba version (4.1.6) in this release is very outdated and contain a P5 critical bug. What can I do to use a newer samba version? backport the utopic package? add the utopic repository and pin this package? what's the recommended and most fail-safe way? (so I do not mess up my whole repository and possible other dependencies..) All samba related packages I need to update eg samba, sam
[06:51] <segaAr> hola gente alguien que hable español?
[06:52] <Ben64> Hali_303: are you sure the version in ubuntu hasn't been patched for it
[06:52] <Ben64> !es | segaAr
[06:54] <pagios> hello, i am looking for a window manager that would allow me to run programs at certain coordinates (example xcalc on coord 0,0; gedit on coord 100,100; chrome on coord 500,500) ) the Windows manager should provide that basic interface to the users, disallowing them from opening terminals and such. Just use what is provided on the window manager;; can anyone point me to some WM that can allow me to achive that Thank you+
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> !windowmanagers | pagios
[06:59] <nathalie__> hi :) noob here needs help with empathy problem, i reinstalled ubuntu last night and i can't seem to edit my contacts in empathy to add them in a group or favorite them like i used to be able to
[06:59] <pagios> lotuspsychje: how can i enforce the security i want on them?
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> pagios: not sure whats your endgoal exactly mate
[07:00] <pagios> lotuspsychje: i want to deploy this in a public area
[07:00] <pagios> i want users to only use the applications in the WM
[07:00] <pagios> dont wantthem to right click open terminals, or close applications opened etc
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> pagios: you want to make a public kiosk?
[07:00] <pagios> lotuspsychje: yea
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> pagios: there are some specifi packages for that in ubuntu, to lock users
[07:01] <pagios> but with my own applications opened
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> pagios: if your doing it manually, alot chmod will be involved
[07:02] <Hali_303> Ben64: I'm quite sure, because the PANIC I can see in the logfiles.
[07:02] <pagios> lotuspsychje: before chmod, i dont want users to be able to close or minimize the opened APPs in the wm
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> pagios: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/07/create-ubuntu-kiosk
[07:03] <androidbruce> anyone else having issues with this mirror?  503  Service Unavailable [IP: 54.87.136.115 80]
[07:03] <androidbruce> i believe this is an aws ec2 mirror
[07:03] <pagios> lotuspsychje: thats for webbrowsers only
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> pagios: you want the users play around on the pc also?
[07:04] <pagios> lotuspsychje: no i want them to use the opened apps like xcalc gedit etc
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> pagios: guest-user perhaps, that cant do harm to the system
[07:06] <pagios> noa
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[07:07] <xxoxx> is there a program that does reliable file transfer?
[07:07] <xxoxx> sftp silently corrupts data
[07:08] <xxoxx> is there a file transfer program that iteratively checks integrity as it goes along ?
[07:08] <pagios> xxoxx: rsync
[07:08] <xxoxx> okay that's right
[07:08] <xxoxx> thanks
[07:08] <pagios> welcome
[07:09] <xxoxx> sftp is dangerous
[07:09] <xxoxx> if file gets corrupted, you would never know unless you check
[07:09] <knightwise> hey , anyone get the Dell XPS 13 yet ?
[07:12] <xxoxx> hey is there a problem with network integrity for RTLinux ?
[07:12] <xxoxx> does RTLinux somehow affect network transfer integrity ?
[07:12] <xxoxx> I am getting very wierd corruption with sftp
[07:12] <xxoxx> Never seen it before
[07:14] <JustMozzy> Good morning. I have a huge problem with my Ubutnu 14.04 LTS. I just enabled on my lenovo t420 the nvidia driver (which is labeled as tested, yeah sure... tested in my ass). now I get a way too low resolution and whenever I log in to my I account I get kicked back out to the login screen. I really need help because this is my work laptop :7
[07:19] <DeeP> hi
[07:19] <DeeP> how r u?
[07:19] <knightwise> hey deep
[07:19] <knightwise> doin ok , how are you ?
[07:19] <DeeP> doing great
[07:20] <DeeP> where from u ?
[07:20] <DeeP> wht do u do?
[07:20] <knightwise> Belgium , you ?
[07:20] <DeeP> india
[07:20] <DeeP> what do u do?
[07:20] <knightwise> Podcaster :)
[07:21] <DeeP> ok
[07:21] <DeeP> are u married ?
[07:21] <knightwise> Not relevant, why ?
[07:22] <DeeP> just want to imagin
[07:22] <DeeP> about u
[07:22] <DeeP> me doing msatsrs
[07:23] <DeeP> manasdawn@yahoo.com
[07:23] <DeeP> https://www.facebook.com/Pun.University
[07:23] <DeeP> this is my facebook address , can i see u ?
[07:23] <JadedFunk> Hi
[07:24] <JadedFunk> Is there a channel on freenode for data recovery using linux?
[07:26] <JustMozzy> pffft... fuck nvidia, seriously
[07:26] <xangua> ! Language
[07:26] <JustMozzy> cant even boot to recovery mode
[07:26] <xxoxx> rsycn also fails
[07:27] <xxoxx> what program ensures transfer integrity ?
[07:27] <JustMozzy> xangua: I dont care about that. when I am mad then I am mad. dont tell me what I should do!!
[07:27] <xxoxx> is there any file transfer program that ensures transfer integrity?
[07:29] <Ben64> xxoxx: yes, rsync as you've been told
[07:29] <xxoxx> rsync still fails
[07:30] <xxoxx> md5sum of the transferred files don't match
[07:30] <Ben64> then you must be doing something wrong
[07:31] <xxoxx> what I don't understand is how can this be happening so transparently
[07:32] <Ben64> you're not on ubuntu?
[07:32] <xxoxx> I am on ubuntu
[07:32] <Ben64> you said RTLinux twice above
[07:32] <xxoxx> the sender is a virtual machine running regular ubuntu
[07:32] <xxoxx> the receiver is a real machine running ubuntu with rt patch
[07:33] <xxoxx> everything else apparently fine
[07:33] <xxoxx> very very weird
[07:33] <Ben64> bust out the hex editor and see what changed
[07:33] <xxoxx> hm ...
[07:34] <xxoxx> what's that command dumps hex ?
[07:34] <xxoxx> bc or o2c or something?
[07:34] <St1gma> hexdump
[07:34] <xxoxx> oh okay
[07:35] <xxoxx> there was a shorter one from unix days
[07:35] <xxoxx> can't remember
[07:35] <St1gma> bc(1)                                                                                                                  General Commands Manual                                                                                                                  bc(1)
[07:35] <St1gma> NAME
[07:35] <St1gma>        bc - An arbitrary precision calculator language
[07:35] <xxoxx> yeah that's not it
[07:35] <St1gma> nothing for o2c
[07:36] <fettler> Hello.  Please could someone help me with a message I'm getting while trying to install wine?  It mentions 'unmet dependencies'
[07:37] <Ben64> fettler: pastebin it
[07:37] <fettler> wine1.6: Depends: wine1.6-amd64 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4) but 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 is to be installed          Depends: wine1.6-i386 (= 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4) but it is not going to be installed
[07:37] <St1gma> ^
[07:37] <fettler> ah helo Ben
[07:37] <St1gma> -f
[07:38] <xxoxx> oh wow
[07:38] <xxoxx> two hex files, each 66 Megs in size
[07:38] <xxoxx> only difference is a few lines
[07:38] <xxoxx> actually a handful bytes total
[07:38] <St1gma> for diffin hex I use hexdiff
[07:38] <xxoxx> that's enough to cause gzip error
[07:38] <St1gma> it's pretty cool
[07:39] <xxoxx> k
[07:39] <fettler> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11143240/
[07:39] <xxoxx> this is driving my crazy ....
[07:39] <fettler> Ben: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11143240/
[07:40] <Ben64> fettler: what version of ubuntu
[07:40] <fettler> How can I tell, Ben?
[07:40] <Ben64> you should just know, you installed it
[07:41] <St1gma> cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:41] <St1gma> fettler: ^
[07:41] <fettler> How can I tell which version I"m running?
[07:41] <Ben64> uh... look up
[07:42] <St1gma> fettler: cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:42] <St1gma> that'll tell you the version that you are running
[07:42] <fettler> Hello St1gma - thanks, let me do that now.
[07:43] <fettler> St1gma: Version is "Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS"
[07:44] <St1gma> apt-get install -f
[07:44] <JustMozzy> Great... now my machine is inaccessible
[07:44] <St1gma> keke
[07:45] <fettler> St1gma:  Could not open lock file.  I think it wants me to be root
[07:45] <xxoxx> hurray hurray !
[07:45] <xxoxx> hahaha
[07:45] <xxoxx> rsync rocks
[07:45] <St1gma> yeah
[07:45] <St1gma> rsync is awesome
[07:45] <xxoxx> rsync actually breaks apart big file and checks chunck by chunck
[07:46] <St1gma> yup
[07:46] <xxoxx> so if it fails once, just run rsync couple of times
[07:46] <xxoxx> and it will do it
[07:46] <fettler> St1gma:  Please could you remind me the command I must use to acta as root?
[07:46] <St1gma> troll?
[07:46] <Ben64> fettler: sudo before the comand
[07:46] <JustMozzy> -.-
[07:47] <xxoxx> anybody familiar with a program called kermit ?
[07:47] <fettler> Ben:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 265 not upgraded.
[07:47] <xxoxx> it's from the early days
[07:47] <xxoxx> I recall copying stuff over modem with kermit
[07:47] <xxoxx> those modem lines were really hokey
[07:47] <Johnny_Linux> Terabytes are termite-like desert insects
[07:48] <Ben64> fettler: you need to run an update
[07:48] <St1gma> lol Johnny_Linux
[07:48] <fettler> Ben:  OK, is that something I do from the Ubuntu page?
[07:49] <Ben64> fettler: ubuntu page? you open the software updater and ...update
[07:49] <St1gma> fettler: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:49] <fettler> Ben:  OH, OK, thanks
[07:49] <fettler> St1gma:  thanks
[07:50] <St1gma> xxoxx: I vaguely remember something about kermit
[07:50] <St1gma> wasn't it something about modems?
[07:50] <St1gma> been ages since I heard (read) that word
[07:50] <St1gma> http://linux.die.net/man/1/kermit
[07:50] <St1gma> yup
[07:51] <St1gma> :)
[07:55] <xxoxx> hehe ...
[07:55] <xxoxx> ha ha ha
[07:55] <xxoxx> kermit
[07:55] <xxoxx> sounds like obiwan the hermit
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> !ot | xxoxx
[08:02] <javnut1> if I want to access my localhost from another computer, do I have to add an iptables exception?
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | javnut1
[08:06] <xxoxx> echo 'force be with you' > /dev/lotuspsychje
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> xxoxx: this isnt the channel for jokes, plz ubuntu support only
[08:07] <xxoxx> my original question was specifically about ubuntu
[08:07] <xxoxx> kermit just reminds me of a funny spelling
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> xxoxx: you can re-ask questions here once in a while
[08:08] <xxoxx> who the hell are you ? some kind of police ?
[08:09] <fettler> St1gma:  It looks like it's working, though it's taking a while.  Thanks for your help
[08:09] <fettler> Ben64:  Thanks for your help
[08:17] <micza> ahoj
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> !pl | micza
[08:18] <fettler> quit
[08:18] <fettler> exit
[08:18] <fettler> How do I get out of here?
[08:18] <fettler> Q
[08:18] <Smither> type /part #ubuntu
[08:19] <Smither> remember the /
[08:21] <xxoxx> ha ha ha
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> !ops | xxoxx
[08:22] <popey> xxoxx: play nice please.
[08:22] <xxoxx> lotuspsychje, shut up
[08:22] <popey> xxoxx: that's an example of not playing nice.
[08:22] <xxoxx> how was I not playing nice?
[08:23] <xxoxx> I was asking questions, and was being actively policed and told what to say in response of every word ?
[08:23] <xxoxx> are people from Europe have a natural tendency to be NAZI or something ?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: tnx
[08:23] <popey> My work here is done :)
[08:23] <xxoxx> lotuspsychje, suck my dick
[08:23] <xxoxx> ha ha ha
[08:35] <jackoff> !lotuspsychje,  you are a small minded dick.  Come to think of it, perhaps so is your dick...
[08:35] <jackoff> oh and please ban this IP too.  ha ha ha
[08:35] <jackoff> dick
[08:38] <function9x> what do you guys use for playing mp3s?
[08:39] <dprc> function9x, mplayer
[08:40] <dprc> vlc is pretty good, clementine as well
[08:40] <trol10> hi
[08:41] <trol10> remember me?
[08:41] <trol10> problem drivers nvidia
[08:41] <function9x> dprc: cheers!
[08:44] <trol10> evrybody here?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !details | trol10
[08:46] <trol10> i install nvidia drivers from official repostiries, and i don't login in system, lightdm request login and password
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> trol10: ubuntu version?
[08:46] <trol10> 15.04
[08:47] <trol10> ubuntu install fresh
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> trol10: what happens when you try to login?
[08:47] <trol10> black screen and back to login windows
[08:47] <noteugene> Hi people, my apt-get fails sporadically with "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!", but after apt-get update it's gone. Does anyone know how to debug it? some kind of a trace why exactly it can't authenticate it?
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> trol10: graphics card chipset?
[08:47] <trol10> infinitely
[08:48] <trol10> geforce 210
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> !aptlock | noteugene
[08:48] <dprc> trol10, try to run nvidia-xconfig from console
[08:48] <dprc> is first step
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> noteugene: did you try sudo apt-get update?
[08:48] <trol10> I tried not helping
[08:49] <trol10> I tried nvidia-xconfig not helping
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> trol10: did you try ubuntu 14.04 LTS on the same grafix card?
[08:49] <trol10> yes
[08:49] <trol10> it's ok
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> trol10: try a nomodeset perhaps, or check your syslog and dmesg for grafix errors
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | trol10
[08:50] <noteugene> lotuspsychje: fuser produces nothing. apt-get update fixes it temporarily. the cache is updated by unattended-upgrades each night, this error appears for different packages
[08:51] <trol10> ok i try
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> noteugene: did you by any change add a ppa recently?
[08:51] <trol10> nomodset
[08:51] <noteugene> lotuspsychje: is there a way to get exact message why it thinks it can't be authenticated?
[08:51] <noteugene> lotuspsychje: nope
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> noteugene: could you pastebin the whole error you getting?
[08:51] <trol10> And what if it does not help?
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> trol10: recoverymode
[08:52] <noteugene> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11144078/
[08:52] <trol10> yesterday i re-install system
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> trol10: recoverymode/fix broken packages can help sometimes
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> !info libaio1
[08:53] <trol10> 14.10 Why it worked without Nomodset but here need this option?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> trol10: youl have to investigate the logs mate
[08:54] <trol10> Where can I get it? Which one?
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> trol10: syslog and dmesg
[08:55] <noteugene> lotuspsychje: I've seen the same error with perl dbm packages, and not with mysql but with libxslt. the problem is you can make apt-get be less verbose, but not more, as far as I see
[08:55] <trol10> ok
[08:58] <neer> Hey
[08:59] <VsyachePuz> ow to determine which program is clipboard manager in the system?
[09:00] <shiznix> hi all, anyone got any clues on howto solve the dreaded sound icon always showing as being muted even when sound is not ?
[09:01] <shiznix> creating a new user fixes the problem temporarily
[09:01] <shiznix> so user's profile is being eventually poisoned by the bug
[09:02] <shiznix> google suggests it's been a problem in various guises for a few years now ?
[09:03] <shiznix> maybe some foo with /usr/libexec/accounts-daemon, but debug info from /usr/libexec/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service is somewhat lacking unfortunately :(
[09:14] <shiznix> nevermind, had 'Silent mode' set in the user's unity8 phone shell
[09:14] <shiznix> sorry for the noise :p
[09:16] <shiznix> adjustments in the phone shell window changed settings on the desktop
[09:17] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> hey dudes, I am trying to compile snort on ubuntu and am following some instuructions but i got to this point "./configure *CFLAGS=-fPIC*" and i keep getting "configure: error: invaled variable name: *CFLAGS"
[09:17] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> I am using 64 bit version.. please help!!!
[09:18] <jKaideN> Hey guys anyone here that can help me clarify things regarding Ubuntu server / LTS
[09:18] <bekks> jKaideN: So just ask your questions.
[09:19] <jpds> jKaideN: Sure, you might want to go to #ubuntu-server too.
[09:19] <jKaideN> Oh ok, well I'm just really confused as to which one I should use for my dedi server that will be just file server/ apache server etc.
[09:20] <jpds> jKaideN: 14.04 LTS.
[09:20] <jKaideN> i see when the cycle is done does it automatically update or do I need to do things manually
[09:20] <jKaideN> will it reset the configuration files etc?
[09:21] <jKaideN> Also another thing, does apt-get update/upgrade reset/overwrite config files ?
[09:21] <jpds> jKaideN: You need to manual start the upgrade.
[09:22] <jpds> jKaideN: And no, dpkg is built with keeping user changes in mind
[09:23] <jKaideN> ah what if we use the sudo apt-get instead of dpkg ?
[09:23] <jpds> jKaideN: dpkg is the low-level tool.
[09:23] <jpds> jKaideN: It sits under apt-get.
[09:23] <jKaideN> i see
[09:23] <jpds> jKaideN: Do you think everyone worldwide would tolerate it if their conf files snapped back to the defaults?
[09:24] <jKaideN> yeah though my Apache server just broke down after update/upgrade
[09:24] <jpds> You'd have to do some research into what exactly broke.
[09:25] <jKaideN> yeah im reading logs but can't find anything specific
[09:30] <ecenk> hi...
[09:32] <jKaideN> http://i.imgur.com/zuK87ZO.png
[09:32] <jKaideN> http://i.imgur.com/zhNvh6r.png
[09:33] <jKaideN> ^ is that second one normal ?
[09:33] <bekks> Why wouldnt it?
[09:35] <jpds> jKaideN: Yep.
[09:35] <rene_5472398> hi all o/
[09:35] <rene_5472398> yeeeh \o/
[09:35] <LeMike> hello. I have a usb-drive which is encrypted and ubuntu asks me for a password when opening it. but it places it to a folder like /media/me/{longUID} . how can I setup luksopen or (x)ubuntu to mount to another folder like "/home/me/backup" ?
[09:36] <jpds> LeMike: I wouldn't put your backup folder in /home/.
[09:36] <jKaideN> jpds, but I keep getting these stuff on syslog when i "tail -F" its like flooding ??
[09:36] <jpds> LeMike: And to do that, you have to mount it manually.
[09:37] <jpds> jKaideN: Judging by the port numbers, it looks lik DHCP traffic.
[09:37] <jKaideN> I also see neighbour IP's ??
[09:37] <LeMike> or to "/media/me/backup" jpds ;) damn it, can't I change some kind of fstab for mounting USB-Drives to another dir? :(
[09:38] <sai-lay> :3
[09:39] <sai-lay> hey
[09:41] <Seveas> LeMike: give the filesystem a label (e.g. e2label for ext2)
[09:41] <jpds> jKaideN: And?
[09:42] <jKaideN> jpds, not sure what it is but its just spamming right now??
[09:43] <jpds> jKaideN: That's your firewall?
[09:43] <jKaideN> that was syslog
[09:44] <jpds> jKaideN: What you've screenshoted, is a snap of logs of your firewall.
[09:44] <BlankJack> first time on linux ircs!
[09:44] <BlankJack> anybody has any good chanels?
[09:45] <LeMike> yay! thanks Seveas , now I can link/mount "/dev/disk/by-label/backup" to anywhere :)
[09:46] <jKaideN> jpds, the second screenshot is "tail -F /var/log/syslog"
[09:46] <somsip> !alis | BlankJack
[09:46] <BlankJack> so lost right now :/
[09:46] <BlankJack> ohh
[09:46] <jpds> jKaideN: Yes.
[09:46] <jpds> jKaideN: It's showing you logs from your firewal.
[09:46] <BlankJack> !alis
[09:46] <BlankJack> ahh got it
[09:46] <jKaideN> jpds, ah i see
[09:47] <somsip> BlankJack: Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*
[09:47] <BlankJack> kk thanks
[09:47] <jKaideN> jpds, if that's my firewall then why is it not stopping at all :D am i getting ddosed or something lol!
[09:48] <jpds> jKaideN: Well, what I can see on there looks like broadcast traffic.
[09:56] <adrien_norihiori> salut a tous, j'utilise plasma 5 et je cherche comment ajouter un théme d'écran de démarrage. Il y a pas de bouton ajouter comme aven c'est un peu chiant car zero indication quoi :s
[09:57] <cristian_c> !fr | adrien_norihiori
[09:57] <adrien_norihiori> ho sorry :)
[10:06] <sai-lay_> hey
[10:06] <svetlana> hi
[10:06] <sai-lay_> anyone here !
[10:06] <svetlana> yes
[10:07] <sai-lay_> xD
[10:07] <svetlana> how may I help you?
[10:10] <gentlyawesome> awesome
[10:10] <gentlyawesome> ex-chat
[10:10] <gentlyawesome> EX-Chat
[10:13] <gentlyawesome> Awesome!
[10:13] <gentlyawesome> 1
[10:13] <gentlyawesome> Anyone here?!
[10:13] <ikonia> yes
[10:14] <gentlyawesome> Cool. So how does this work? This is my first time in IRC :P
[10:14] <svetlana> a chat room. a few conversations in parallel. each room has a name and a topic - the topic is shown at the top
[10:15] <svetlana> you are at irc.ubuntu.com, also known as freenode, dedicated to collaboration and support of copyleft software, including such software shipped with ubuntu
[10:15] <gentlyawesome> aha...
[10:16] <sai-lay_> get
[10:16] <gentlyawesome> so such place exist :) I was dragged here in my curiosity of looking for a free ssh server. I don't even know if it exist.
[10:17] <svetlana> ok, you should check dmoz.org for that; one second
[10:17] <ikonia> gentlyawesome: default part of ubuntu
[10:17] <ikonia> gentlyawesome: the openssh-server package installs an ssh server
[10:17] <svetlana> oh yes, if you have ubuntu installed then you can already use that computer as an ssh server. but I'm assuming you don't, and you're looking for someone else's ssh server. is that right?
[10:18] <nicolas__> Hello everyone, i have a strage problem with partitioning on an  unattended netboot install. in my presseed file i use "d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select atomic" to tell the installer that i only want a / partition, on most hosts this works, but now i have machines with 300gb hard drives and 320GB of ram, and on this machines the installer creates a home partition. When i reduce the ram to 16 gb it w
[10:19] <gentlyawesome> svetlana: I have already have ssh server on my computer. But is there a free server online?
[10:19] <nicolas__> orks correctly
[10:19] <gentlyawesome> ikona: yes I have installed it. Your name has a color yellow on it. Hmm...
[10:19] <svetlana> gentlyawesome: would you like one online? if you want to use them, see http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Access_Providers/Unix_Shell_Providers/Free/ but be careful as they are shared. do not put confidential data there.
[10:20] <svetlana> (that list is not official and is not endorsed by ubuntu or canonical)
[10:20] <svetlana> gentlyawesome: if you have access to your router, then you can use your existing computer as an ssh server. it would be more secure and more reasonable regarding privacy and the like
[10:21] <gentlyawesome> svetlana: Thanks for the link. Just curious on how I can use one like temporarily saveing some file etc...
[10:21] <svetlana> check their disk quota. for small files that's okay.
[10:22] <svetlana> you could use GNUnet for anonymous secure peer-to-peer file sharing. see https://gnunet.org .
[10:22] <svetlana> dunno how to use it though. with ssh servers I do.
[10:22] <gentlyawesome> wow thanks this is a very helpful community :)
[10:24] <gentlyawesome> so is everyone here a programmer or something?
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> gentlyawesome  my irc runs on unixssh.com, i's free
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> it's*
[10:25] <svetlana> gentlyawesome: no. I don't get a job in IT because doing so requires me to give up copyright on my code. I do program some in my free time though, and enjoy the benefits of releasing my code to the web under a copyleft (www.copyleft.org) licence.
[10:26] <svetlana> MonkeyDust: I'll add that to that list, one mo
[10:26] <iptable> svetlana, in what country?
[10:26] <gentlyawesome> Aha, cool, wait that's funny, first time I heared copyleft
[10:27] <svetlana> iptable: Australia
[10:27] <iptable> oh
[10:27] <bekks> svetlana: As long as you are coding in your free time, you dont have to give up any copyrights of your privately programmed code.
[10:27] <gentlyawesome> how do you guys do the colored name then my name besides yours?
[10:28] <svetlana> bekks: that's what I am doing :)
[10:28] <iptable> Was going to say, in EU regulations state the employer is not allowed to ask you to give up your personal copyrights and code that you made in your own time, as long as the code is not in direct competition to company's products.
[10:28] <iptable> svetlana, ^
[10:28] <EriC^> gentlyawesome: you type someone's nick and it highlights it for them on their client
[10:28] <bekks> svetlana: So you can safely get a job on IT, too :)
[10:28] <svetlana> gentlyawesome: S, V, TAB should do a nick highlight
[10:28] <EriC^> gentlyawesome: type the first few letters then press <tab>
[10:28] <svetlana> bekks: in some areas, but not as a software developer
[10:28] <gentlyawesome> EriC^ Cool!
[10:28] <svetlana> :)
[10:28] <iptable> svetlana, although employers still try to do that in contracts, they have no right to. Check Australia law exactly, maybe it's incorporated as well, in which case you are fine.
[10:29] <bekks> svetlana: Why not? :)
[10:29] <gentlyawesome> svetlana: Awesome! My name is colored you yours. Hehe
[10:29] <svetlana> bekks, iptable: they usually require to give up copyright to them. I tried finding one which allows me to upload the code to the web under gpl, but none wanted.
[10:30] <svetlana> it's not a legal requirement but that's something they dislike doing :)
[10:30] <iptable> svetlana, even coded in personal time? hard to believe. it's like having to give away all your spoons cause you work in a spoon factory :D
[10:30] <svetlana> no, coding in personal time is fine
[10:30] <bekks> svetlana: they have all rights to require you to give up copyright on the code produced during your working time. But they have no right to do so on your private code.
[10:31] <svetlana> yes, that's right. is my vocabulary that bad? I don't want to go to the factory because I don't like making non-free code, that's all.
[10:31] <bekks> svetlana: And every software company not doing so wont survive, actually :)
[10:31] <svetlana> yes, that's why I don't work for the companies
[10:31] <gentlyawesome> svetlana: Wait you also build programs on your free time? Awesome! I also do mine :)
[10:31] <svetlana> yes
[10:32] <iptable> ok, I just glimpsed through Australia law. messed up. nevermind.
[10:32] <gentlyawesome> Lol
[10:32] <bekks> svetlana: so you are looking for a company which lets you have to the copyright for coded you are coding for the company?
[10:32] <svetlana> bekks: that, or lets me give them the copyright AND includes a clause that all my code is GPLed in the contract
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[10:33] <gentlyawesome> svetlana: well how about companies that don't give you contracts?
[10:33] <iptable> bekks, apparently in Australia an employer has rights to code done even in your personal time. Just read it.
[10:33] <svetlana> gentlyawesome: I code for friends sometimes and they pay me even though I upload the thing somewhere. but that's not full-time :)
[10:34] <bekks> iptable: wow.
[10:34] <svetlana> iptable: no, where did you take that from? I saw you mention it, but it was not what I said
[10:34] <jpds> bekks: It depends on your employment contract really.
[10:34] <gentlyawesome> svetlana: ehem, that's good.
[10:34] <iptable> svetlana, my global copyright law PDFs
[10:35] <iptable> anyways, back to ubuntu support
[10:35] <svetlana> ah so that's actually not a joke, I didn't know that
[10:52] <csrockstar> Can I maven compile and run java -jar file.java without conflict, to another instance that is already running?
[11:15] <ubuntu> haha
[11:15] <ubuntu> ubuntu is mine now
[11:15] <ubuntu> 0x71 (xc) Our
[11:15] <ubuntu> what u gonna do
[11:16] <Guest9125> coded by skraito
[11:20] <Craigwell> first adventure with clonezilla coming up
[11:21] <vooze> Is anyone able to change mouse cursor in 15.04 ? It just shows white cursor so matter what I do.
[11:22] <EriC^> vooze: does the selection change?
[11:23] <EriC^> if you go back to the options is it still changed?
[11:24] <Guest9125> KindOne> do you hate gay people?
[11:24] <Guest9125> <Guest9125> of course asshole
[11:24] <Guest9125> <Guest9125> gay and lesbian shouldn't have right
[11:24] <Guest9125> <Guest9125> to liv
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:33] <vooze> EriC^: sorry for the delay, but yes, it still says DMZ-black and the cursor is white.
[11:40] <ismail_> ısmaıl cam
[11:40] <codepython777> On an intel mac, i by mistake installed grub. Is there a way to go back to the osx bootloader?
[11:40] <bekks> codepython777: Thats an OSX question :)
[11:41] <codepython777> can ubuntu read/write/mount HFS partitions?
[11:41] <NoDRMinBooks> I am running Ubuntu , how do i create a bootable USB? I don't have windows.
[11:41] <Seveas> NoDRMinBooks: usb-creator
[11:41] <bekks> read yes, write no, mount yes.
[11:42] <codepython777> bekks: Isnt grub designed to do recovery?
[11:42] <bekks> codepython777: No.
[11:42] <NoDRMinBooks> Seveas where do I find that?
[11:43] <EriC^> NoDRMinBooks: are you making an ubuntu live usb?
[11:43] <MrElendig> codepython777: write support to HFS is not something you should use
[11:44] <codepython777> I had refind installed before grub took over. Is there any way to go back to refind?
[11:44] <MrElendig> also I strongly suggest not using HFS if you can
[11:44] <MrElendig> http://blog.barthe.ph/2014/06/10/hfs-plus-bit-rot/
[11:44] <NoDRMinBooks> I want to be able to boot up on multiple machines, instead of using HDD
[11:44] <Seveas> NoDRMinBooks: it's actually called usb-creator-gtk and lives in the usb-creator-gtk package
[11:44] <bekks> MrElendig: OSX uses HFS+, so he has no choice.
[11:45] <EriC^> NoDRMinBooks: so you want a full installation, but on a usb instead of a hdd?
[11:45] <NoDRMinBooks> correct eric
[11:45] <codepython777> mounting says wrong fs type.? "hfsplus" is fstype
[11:45] <MrElendig> bekks: he can not store all his files on the osX partition
[11:45] <MrElendig> codepython777: you can't write to hfs with journal enabled
[11:46] <MrElendig> and disabeling the journal is a really bad idea
[11:46] <bekks> MrElendig: But he still want to access his OSX partitions.
[11:46] <EriC^> ok, boot an .iso and then install as usual, but to the usb instead of the hdd
[11:46] <MrElendig> bekks: note how I mentioned "write support"
[11:46] <EriC^> NoDRMinBooks: choose to install to Something else in the installer, and choose the usb and partition it, and choose the bootloader to be installed to the usb
[11:47] <EriC^> NoDRMinBooks: you can boot the .iso either using grub, or make a live usb if you have 2 usbs
[11:47] <MrElendig> read support is quite buggy too
[11:47] <bekks> MrElendig: I was refering to your "also I strongly suggest not using HFS if you can".
[11:47] <MrElendig> fun fact: hfs is so bad that osX actually puts a vfs on top of it
[11:47] <MrElendig> to hide some of the nasty things
[11:49] <frank1e> hi can anyone help me out installing truecrypt? I'm already failing at basics like opening the downloaded archive etc etc
[11:50] <MrElendig> frank1e: truecrypt is dead
[11:50] <codepython777> MrElendig: I am just trying to read a hfsplus partition - cant even mount it
[11:50] <MrElendig> frank1e: I suggest using luks or gpg instead
[11:50] <codepython777> do i need some extra packages to do that?
[11:50] <frank1e> MrElendig I'm using the last audited version, works
[11:50] <frank1e> MrElendig I have a tar.gz archive if I recall correctly. No idea how to install it
[11:51] <frank1e> been a while
[11:51] <MrElendig> mount -t hfs /what/ever /some/where
[11:51] <frank1e> oh ok hold on
[11:51] <Number5> Hello guys, I want to get rid of the TV box of our ISP. Instead, I want to use solely internet to watch tv, like Arab broadcasts or some Soccer channels. If that's possible, I don't need our satellite dish also. Where to look for the right software?
[11:51] <qdii> hey guys
[11:51] <qdii> when I do an apt-get update, I get this message: "E: Method gave invalid 103 Redirect message"
[11:51] <syntiux> exit
[11:52] <jpds> qdii: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:52] <qdii> 15.04
[11:52] <frank1e> MrElendig: frank@frank-MacBookPro:~/Downloads$ mount -t hfs /truecrypt-7.1a-linux.x64.tar.gz
[11:52] <frank1e> mount: only root can do that
[11:52] <frank1e> frank@frank-MacBookPro:~/Downloads$
[11:53] <jpds> frank1e: You're trying to mount a tarball?
[11:53] <MrElendig> frank1e: that was clearly not for you
[11:53] <frank1e> oh btw I'm sorry, I am running ElementaryOS :F but I heard it's basicly the same as ubuntu technically
[11:53] <MrElendig> frank1e: for you: man tar
[11:54] <frank1e> MrElendig Uh now I got a long ass page with commans and descriptions
[11:54] <frank1e> *commands
[11:54] <MrElendig> frank1e: it tells you how to use tar to extract that archive
[11:54] <MrElendig> frank1e: it even comes with examples
[11:55] <MrElendig> tar -x [-f ARCHIVE] [OPTIONS] [MEMBER...]
[11:56] <MrElendig> so tar -xf truecrypt-7.1a-linux.x64.tar.gz
[11:56] <frank1e> was about to try it with just x
[11:57] <vooze> Is anyone able to change mouse cursor in 15.04 (unity) ? It just shows white cursor so matter what I do.
[11:57] <joban> Hi everyone
[11:57] <joban> I'm installing Ubuntu 14.04 on lots of machines from USB
[11:58] <joban> At what point in the installation process can I remove the USB stick?
[11:58] <frank1e> MrElendig: http://pastebin.com/UGJMFk11
[11:58] <MrElendig> I can't open pastebin.com
[11:59] <MrElendig> use a sane pastebin like bpaste.net or gist.github.com
[11:59] <MrElendig> joban: when you reboot
[11:59] <MrElendig> after you are done installing
[11:59] <bekks> frank1e: That file given does not exist.
[11:59] <frank1e> MrElendig: https://bpaste.net/show/e00e72bdce02
[12:03] <condor_> hi
[12:10] <duckblaster> Can someon help me please, installation of ubuntu studio 15.04 on hyper-v windows 10 hangs
[12:11] <duckblaster> somehow modprobe btrfs freezes
[12:13] <joban> MrElendig: Thanks
[12:14] <MrElendig> frank1e: works better if the file actually exists at that path
[12:15] <ioria> duckblaster, windows 10,  ver. 10049 ?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> !btrfs | duckblaster did you read this
[12:16] <MrElendig> btrfs is not experimental
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> i have build 10074
[12:17] <duckblaster> it's the installer script, right after the selection for audio/video/etc packages
[12:17] <MrElendig> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DplcPrQjvA
[12:17] <bekks> MrElendig: According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs it is still under development.
[12:17] <Munt> If I have an rsync backup of my server, can I just rsync it back to my main linux hard disk after a failure and expect it to work perfectly again ?
[12:18] <ioria> duckblaster, which version of win10 ?
[12:18] <MrElendig> bekks: guess what: ext4 is still under development too
[12:18] <MrElendig> bekks: so are xfs and jfs
[12:18] <duckblaster> ioria: not sure, where do I go to check
[12:19] <MrElendig> bekks: that page is quite outdated btw, note how the latest version it mentiones is from 2012
[12:19] <bekks> MrElendig: Feel free to update it then :)
[12:19] <MrElendig> bekks: last update to the page was in 2013
[12:21] <ioria> duckblaster, maybe in control panel
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> duckblaster  normally, you can find the build number on your desktop
[12:22] <duckblaster> found it, corner of the desktop wallpaper, 10074
[12:22] <frank1e> MrElendig it does exist :(
[12:23] <ioria> duckblaster, the point is that hyper seems to have a bug, from 10049 version
[12:24] <bekks> frank1e: ls -lha shows that exact file?
[12:24] <ioria> frank1e you changed the file extension ?
[12:24] <rypervenche> Munt: Yes, depending on what you are rsyncing.
[12:25] <ioria> frank1e from .tgz to tar.gz ?
[12:25] <ioria> duckblaster, the point is that hyper seems to have a bug, from 10049 version
[12:26] <ioria> duckblaster, sorry,   they say to downgrade  and  upgrade again
[12:27] <duckblaster> that's been fixed
[12:27] <ioria> duckblaster, "web chat", never tried , sorry
[12:30] <Munt> rypervenche my rsync command is sudo rsync -azvv -e ssh /* munt@192.168.1.100:ServerBackup
[12:30] <rypervenche> Munt: Yeah, there are some things you won't want to copy over, such as virtual file systems, /dev, /sys,. Let me show you my exclude file that I use.
[12:31] <Munt> thanks very much ryperenche !
[12:32] <rypervenche> Munt: I use rsync -avhPs --delete --delete-excluded --exclude-from='/home/rypervenche/scripts/.backup-exclude' / /mnt/backup1/hostname/$(date +%F)/
[12:33] <rypervenche> Munt: https://bpaste.net/show/2eb36231362e is my exclude file
[12:33] <duckblaster> freezes when I hit cintinue on this screen http://imgur.com/SDtOSc9
[12:33] <Munt> what do the  three astrix’s mean ?
[12:33] <rypervenche> Munt: My actual backup script is a bit more complex (using hard links and such), but that is the gist of it.
[12:34] <vindicator> pm-suspend scripts don't seem to get run when using the keyboard "Sleep" key or even the Suspend power menu item. I added logger statements to the script and they only showed when I manually ran pm-suspend.
[12:34] <rypervenche> Munt: a trailing "dir_name/***" will match both the directory (as if "dir_name/" had been specified) and everything in the directory (as if "dir_name/**" had been specified).  This behavior was added in version 2.6.7.
[12:34] <rypervenche> Munt: Man page ftw :)
[12:35] <Munt> thanks :)
[12:35]  * Munt is a uber linux noob
[12:36] <rypervenche> Munt: We all were at some point :)
[12:36] <Seveas> some of us still are
[12:36] <Munt> Baby Steps and mini victories :D
[12:36] <duckblaster> system monitor shows this http://imgur.com/IHXZl2H I eft it for over an hour with no change
[12:37] <Munt> I just managed to get my server to connect to the internet via a VPN so that my home ip isnt broadcast.        is there a more widely accepted method of obscuring a servers ip from the web than that ?
[12:38] <rypervenche> Munt: For what service(s)?
[12:38] <Munt> http
[12:38] <rypervenche> Munt: A simple SSH tunnel will work. Run "ssh -D 9999 user@ip.of.your.server" then in your browser go to Network and use a socks5 proxy at localhost:9999
[12:40] <rypervenche> Munt: However, if you want all traffic, (not just http), to use your home network's public IP, then a VPN will be your best bet.
[12:41] <Munt> rypervenche: forgive my ignorance but that means buy a sock5 proxy and route my connection via it ?
[12:42] <rypervenche> Munt: Nope. socks5 proxy support is built into your browser.
[12:43] <rypervenche> Munt: The SSH command would create the proxy tunnel that you would then use in your browser.
[12:44] <Munt> rypervenche: My goal is to set up a webserver whose ip is not traceable to my home (not for anything bad)
[12:44] <Munt> at the moment my vpn method works … but it feels wrong :p
[12:45] <NoDRMinBooks> You should use TOR
[12:45] <rypervenche> Munt: Oh, you're running a server from hom?
[12:45] <rypervenche> home*
[12:45] <Munt> yes rypervenche
[12:46] <NoDRMinBooks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWII85UlzKw
[12:46] <Munt> NoDRMinBooks: I dont like tor
[12:46] <Munt> too slow
[12:46] <Johnny_Linux> i think tor is down anyway
[12:47] <simpleuser> Someone using Guake here? When I hide it with f12 I havo no focus. Could I have it on the window underneath it?
[12:47] <NoDRMinBooks> it's working perfectly
[12:47] <NoDRMinBooks> VPN's are not private by design
[12:47] <NoDRMinBooks> TOR is
[12:48] <NoDRMinBooks> It may be slower but it is far safer and anonymous
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> in Firefox, I set my proxy to unixssh's ip address, using port 9999... how does that change anything?
[12:48] <Munt> the only thing i want is for joe bloggs not to be able to get my home ip.    if the gov. or isp can trace it back to me that's fine
[12:55] <Guest17852> ciao
[12:55] <Guest17852> !list
[12:57] <vindicator> Anyone familiar with pm-suspend?
[12:58] <caustics> hello there, happy day! what is your recommended firefox add-on for https?
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> vindicator  yes
[13:01] <AndroUser> Test
[13:01] <NoDRMinBooks> https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
[13:01] <vindicator> MonkeyDust, are the /etc/pm/sleep.d scripts supposed to run under all pm conditions, like the keyboard's "Sleep" key being pressed?
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> vindicator  not sure, never used those scripts
[13:04] <rypervenche> Munt: You will need some server that is not at your house, whether it's a small VM that you buy or a proxy that you pay for. Or a friend's computer/server that they let you SSH to or VPN to.
[13:05] <vindicator> MonkeyDust and anyone else interested, I posted my issue in the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2278306
[13:05] <Munt> rypervenche: So do you think my paid pptp vpn solution is roughly equivalent ?
[13:06] <starnas> Hi all. Got to use aclocal 1.13 to compile a software. But in /usr/bin/ i get only aclocal 1.11 although my automake is the newest version available. Any ideas? apt-get does not have aclocal to install, only as automake package
[13:06] <niluje> Should I prefer strongswan to ipsec-tools?
[13:07] <caustics> hello there, happy day! what is your recommended firefox add-on for https?
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> caustics  better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:08] <caustics> recently I could discuss here a full-length firefox security problem.
[13:08] <caustics> and I was recommended to use a https addon
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> caustics  i'm sure you can find a suitable https plugin in the firefox menu
[13:10] <caustics> MonkeyDust, yes, there are several. that's why I am asking.
[13:11] <caustics> earlier there used to be https everywhere, now it's gone
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> caustics  yes, maybe it was no longer maintainded or so
[13:15] <caustics> thank you MonkeyDust. seems I'll need to scratch a bit
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> caustics  or choose anothe
[13:16] <caustics> MonkeyDust, yes. will go for "try and see".
[13:18] <jack-zhang> why my Ubuntu system own two default routers? One is eth0 the other is ppp0, and the point is it doesn't work!!
[13:28] <pbx> my status bar has become unresponsive to clicks.  alt-f10 seems to work. how can i kick/fix it?
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> pbx  status bar of what?
[13:30] <pbx> MonkeyDust, unity
[13:30] <pbx> 14.04
[13:35] <XenophonF> is it possible to tell the ubuntu installer to skip partitioning entirely?
[13:35] <jack-zhang> Hello guys, Could anybody told me why my Ubuntu system own two IPv6 default routers? One is eth0 the other is ppp0, and the point is it doesn't work!!
[13:36] <jack-zhang> https://p.6core.net/p/3X19w3NFVwb86K7Y2e4nMOGL message
[13:36] <ash_> hgi
[13:37] <ash_> hello?
[13:37] <jack-zhang> ?
[13:37] <ash_> just  booted pi for first time amazined
[13:37] <pbx> ash_, if you have a question, just ask.
[13:38] <ash_> u guys running on rasberry pi?
[13:38] <Pumpkin-_> jack-zhang: because something on both eth0 and ppp0 sent a RA and claimed to be an IPv6 router ?
[13:38] <jack-zhang> And I observe this file root/net/ipv6/route.c find that /*always select the same router if it is (probably) reachable*/
[13:38] <jack-zhang> So it alwalys choose eth0, which doesn't work
[13:38] <Pumpkin-_> I'm assuming you are surprised at getting one from eth0 ?
[13:39] <jack-zhang> Pumpkin, yes
[13:39] <jack-zhang> Pumpkin-_,yes
[13:40] <Pumpkin-_> go find whatever it is that is sending it and turn it off, or turn off the net.ipv6.conf.eth0.accept_ra sysctl if you can't do that for some reason.
[13:41] <jack-zhang> Pumpkin-_ ip -6 change default dev ppp0 will make it work
[13:41] <jack-zhang> Pumpkin-_ bbut i want to know why it never choose ppp0 to send packets
[13:43] <ravi> hi, got error on connecting DSL. Error: Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/51' failed in libnm-glib.
[13:43] <Pumpkin-_> ahh, go digging in the code then. Two equal routes, same prefix length, same metric.
[13:43] <zerowaitstate> jack-zhang: check the metric the two interfaces
[13:43] <zerowaitstate> jack-zhang: "ip route"
[13:44] <jack-zhang> https://p.6core.net/p/3X19w3NFVwb86K7Y2e4nMOGL here
[13:44] <ravi> can any one help me?
[13:44] <ravi> Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/51' failed in libnm-glib.
[13:44] <jack-zhang> zerowaitstate ,https://p.6core.net/p/3X19w3NFVwb86K7Y2e4nMOGL
[13:45] <jack-zhang> zerowaitstate it seems the same
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> tiet veu a paafke
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> oeps
[13:46] <ravi> i got fe80::/64 dev wlan0  proto kernel  metric 256
[13:47] <eliezer> Hi
[13:48] <jack-zhang> Pumpkin-_, yes all the same but why it always choose eth0? That really confuse me
[13:49] <ravi> how to solve "(1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/60' failed in libnm-glib."? I got this error message when connecting DSL.
[13:50] <jack-zhang> Pumpkin-_ I find that it follow the RFC 2461 6.3.6 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2461#section-6.3.6 but I never the point. Any advice?
[13:50] <zerowaitstate> ravi: http://askubuntu.com/questions/469783/ubuntu-14-04-cant-connect-to-new-password-protected-wifi-network
[13:51] <ravi> thanks zerowaitstate
[13:51] <ravi> trying to solve
[13:51] <zerowaitstate> ravi: applies to wlan, but it may relate to your issue
[13:51] <ravi> ok
[13:52] <zerowaitstate> ravi: also, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1438003
[13:52] <eliezer> Yes
[13:53] <ravi> zerowaitstate: ok
[13:53] <Craigwell> hey guys,
[13:53] <Craigwell> i just finished using clonezilla to copy partition to partition,
[13:54] <Joshun> Hi
[13:54] <Craigwell> from an internal hd to a new one that i had connected via usb
[13:54] <Joshun> are the ubuntu torrent trackers down for anyone else?
[13:54] <Joshun> they just time out
[13:54] <Craigwell> everything seems to have gone ok,
[13:54] <Craigwell> but wondering what next..
[13:54] <Joshun> don't have the problem for any other torrents, just ubuntu's
[13:54] <Craigwell> the target drive is larger, and i increased the partition sizes accordingly,
[13:54] <eliezer> Hi Josh
[13:55] <Craigwell> but the partition to partition copy seems to have retained the source drive sizes somehow?
[13:55] <somsip> Craigwell: that's how it works. You need to resize it
[13:56] <Craigwell> somsip: can I do that with gparted?
[13:56] <somsip> Craigwell: yep
[13:56] <zerowaitstate> Craigwell: you have to resize the filesystem as well after you resize the partition
[13:56] <zerowaitstate> Craigwell: if you're using ext4, I think the command is resize2fs
[13:57] <Craigwell> looks like my ext4 partition automatically resized
[13:57] <Craigwell> (filesystem)
[13:57] <zerowaitstate> kk
[13:57] <zerowaitstate> some tools will do that for you.
[13:57] <XenophonF> will the ubuntu installer skip partitioning if /target is already mounted?
[13:58] <Craigwell> i used clonezilla,
[13:58] <XenophonF> Craigwell: partclone or whatever should resize ext4 volumes for you
[13:58] <Craigwell> chose "local partition to partition" copy,
[13:58] <Craigwell> after I created the partitions I wanted on the new drive
[14:01] <Craigwell> yeah it seems to be the ntfs partitions that have issues
[14:01] <XenophonF> Craigwell: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-can-i-resize-an-ext-root-partition-at-runtime
[14:01] <Craigwell> trying to resize one now via gparted - > partition -> check
[14:01] <Craigwell> well the ext4 partition is another story alltogether
[14:01] <unity_newbie> hi guys, is there anyway i can hide the close/maximize/minimize buttons when i invoque the Dash?
[14:01] <Craigwell> the original one was 12gb with like, 1gb free (14.04)
[14:02] <Craigwell> the new one on the target drive was 50gb,
[14:02] <Craigwell> but somehow gparted is still reporting only 1gb free on the new larger partition ?!
[14:02] <Craigwell> i'll ignore that for now..
[14:02] <XenophonF> Craigwell: precisely what options did you use with Clonezilla?
[14:02] <Craigwell> i kept it simple with gui,
[14:02] <Craigwell> no filechecking
[14:03] <Craigwell> just "local partition to partition" copy
[14:04] <ravi> (1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/6' failed in libnm-glib.
[14:04] <ravi> not solved
[14:06] <ravi> Does any one have idea to solve "(1) Creating object for path '/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/6' failed in libnm-glib."?
[14:08] <unity_newbie> hi guys, is there anyway i can hide the close/maximize/minimize buttons when i invoque the Dash?
[14:08] <Joshun> found out the problem with torrents - my uni seems to be blocking them. pretty bad considering the university of sheffield uses ubuntu for some of its servers
[14:09] <Craigwell> yeah i have problems here
[14:09] <Craigwell> or i can't trust what gparted is reporting
[14:09] <Craigwell> all of it is incorrecy
[14:09] <Craigwell> i think i need to startover
[14:11] <XenophonF> Craigwell: iirc there's an option in Clonezilla where it will copy the file system contents
[14:11] <Craigwell> yeah I'm starting over.
[14:11] <Craigwell> Not impressed.
[14:11] <Craigwell> there hasn't been much in the way of ease trying to sort this out, and it doesn't seem too complicated to me
[14:12] <Craigwell> old drive: small partitions. New drive: larger partitions. Clone contents, and go. I understand there is possibly some Grub / UUID stuff to sort out when I swap the old drive for the new, but otherwise why is this complicated?
[14:12] <EagleDelta> Quick question: Can I use SELinux on Ubuntu with minimal issues (like I can in RHEL/CentOS). I work for a Network Security company and our CIO is moving us to Ubuntu Server, but Security requires us to use SELinux, NOT AppArmor
[14:12] <Craigwell> anyway, I'll try again
[14:13] <Craigwell> the options I saw in clonezilla were to clone drive to drive locally, remote etc
[14:13] <Craigwell> or clone partition to partition locally, remote etc. Should I try the drive cloning? Will that deal with multiple partitions ?
[14:13] <Craigwell> i have a swap, an ext4 and two ntfs partitions to deal with
[14:14] <Craigwell> going from 120gb to 500gb wd black drive
[14:14] <Craigwell> Dell D630
[14:14] <cn28h> so I upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 and now Ubuntu stopped automatically mounting my usb hdd.. it's probably fine, I'm sure I can still mount it myself.  Just wondering if anybody had an idea what would cause that
[14:16] <XenophonF> Craigwell: there's an option in clonezilla to resize at restore time
[14:16] <XenophonF> option "-k" i think
[14:16] <Craigwell> ok. I guess I'm going for it again now
[14:16] <Craigwell> bbiab
[14:16] <XenophonF> then you can use ntfsresize or resize2fs to expand the file systems
[14:17] <XenophonF> or you can use diskpart in windows
[14:17] <XenophonF> etc.
[14:17] <XenophonF> good luck
[14:17] <Craigwell> I was using this guide
[14:17] <Craigwell> https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/783416-how-to-image-and-clone-hard-drives-with-clonezilla
[14:17] <Felishia> hey guys :3 would you recommend faking my ip or doing something so that every service runs as if I was in the US?
[14:17] <a7i3n_> anyone here experience their usb mouse stop working in 15.04? Have to unplug and replug to temporarlilly fix this...
[14:17] <Felishia> I'm tired of web services that show me all stuff in spanish
[14:17] <cn28h> (in fact, I manually ran "udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb" and it worked...)
[14:17] <cn28h> er, /dev/sdb1 rather
[14:17] <EriC^^> Felishia: it'll make your internet slower i guess
[14:18] <EriC^^> Felishia: cause it'll have to go through that server
[14:18] <Felishia> EriC^^, :c isn't there then a different way?
[14:18] <Craigwell> hmmm wait a second
[14:18] <Felishia> for example, when I go to X website all if contents appear in spanish and is usually bad translations or not the same content
[14:19] <Craigwell> once i clone partitionm is there an image I have to restore on new partition ?
[14:19] <Felishia> dd?
[14:19] <EriC^^> Felishia: just switch the language in the website and tell it to save your settings
[14:19] <Craigwell> that might explain weird info reported by gparted
[14:19] <EriC^^> Craigwell: if i were you, i'd make the partitions as i wanted in the new hdd, and just rsync the data over
[14:19] <Felishia> EriC^^, problem is when I'm googling XD and I go to a random site... and it gets in "es" moe
[14:19] <Felishia> mode
[14:20] <Craigwell> rsync.. terminal command I can execute from within OS containing source drive mounted?
[14:20] <Craigwell> or am I usb booting again ?
[14:20] <Felishia> damn web services should use the language of the OS instead the IP to track what my language is!
[14:21] <EriC^^> Craigwell: you'd want to boot a live usb, so that the virtual filesystems aren't loaded and you just rsync -av / /path/to/usb
[14:21] <EriC^^> or rather rsync -av /mnt/your/installatio\n /path/to/usb
[14:22] <EriC^^> *installation
[14:22] <Craigwell> interesting
[14:22] <Craigwell> ok. seems reasonable.
[14:22] <Craigwell> I'm going for it
[14:22] <EriC^^> Craigwell: i think if you clone the drive and then resize it would take a long time to resize everything like you wanted
[14:22] <Craigwell> bbiab
[14:22] <EriC^^> ok, also there are the bootloaders
[14:22] <EriC^^> are you using mbr partitions?
[14:23] <Craigwell> yes, I was understanding I might need to modify grub to change uuid?
[14:23] <Craigwell> or something like that
[14:23] <EriC^^> ok, well after you copy the data, chroot into the installation from the live usb
[14:23] <EriC^^> and do grub-install /dev/sdX (where sdX is the new hdd)
[14:24] <EriC^^> and change /etc/fstab so that it has the proper uuid's
[14:24] <EriC^^> also sudo update-grub
[14:24] <Craigwell> I am not sure about mbr
[14:24] <EriC^^> it's ok, grub-install will write to the mbr
[14:25] <EriC^^> if you're using uefi you have to do something else
[14:25] <Craigwell> yes the grub thing sounds simple, I've done similar recovery / mod before
[14:25] <Craigwell> wasn't too worried about that
[14:25] <Craigwell> just the proper cloning is hard to wrap my head around for some reason
[14:25] <Craigwell> but I will get to a live usb, and go the rsync message
[14:26] <EriC^^> ok
[14:26] <EriC^^> go for it
[14:26] <Craigwell> thank you, i'll be back to report on it
[14:26] <EriC^^> ok
[14:26] <Johnny_Linux> YEEE-HAAA!
[14:26] <Craigwell> no uefi
[14:26] <EriC^^> Johnny_Linux: haha :D
[14:27] <Johnny_Linux> mornin
[14:27] <EriC^^> morning
[14:27] <Craigwell> wait!
[14:27] <Craigwell> ahhhh!
[14:27] <Craigwell> (lol)
[14:27] <EriC^^> :D
[14:28] <Craigwell> I think its ok. Just cluing into something
[14:28] <Craigwell> gparted can't deal with the ntfs partitions
[14:28] <EriC^^> yes it can
[14:28] <EriC^^> what do you mean
[14:28] <Craigwell> to report on them without he following list of software packages is required for ntfs file system support:  ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g.
[14:28] <Craigwell> i don't have ntfs packages installed
[14:29] <Craigwell> for gparted that is
[14:29] <EriC^^> hmm
[14:29] <Craigwell> i just looked at my source drive for a minute, and clued in
[14:29] <EriC^^> try creating the partitions from scratch
[14:29] <Craigwell> my clone might have been a sucess,
[14:29] <Craigwell> i did originally create them from scratch
[14:30] <Craigwell> then used clonezilla for partitiion to partition copy
[14:30] <Craigwell> disks is reporting the correct partition sizes
[14:30] <Craigwell> i just couldn't mount them / examine in gparted, hence my confusion
[14:30] <EriC^^> mount them as usual
[14:30] <EriC^^> sudo mount /dev/sdxY /mnt
[14:31] <Craigwell> yup it works
[14:34] <tete_> hi, is there some tool to automount an usb drive in e.g. /mnt/usb(1,2,3...) in ubuntu 15.04 with systemd?
[14:34] <Tomasso> is there some way to install a web proxy, and make it access https sites allowing me to visit them using plain and normal http ?
[14:34] <yacc> Does Ubuntu 14.04 manage decrypt multiple devices on boot, if they are required for root? (root on LVM with two PV that are encrypted)?
[14:34] <tete_> Tomasso, i guess squid should be able to do that
[14:34] <yacc> Tomasso: That does not make sense, because webbrowsers/javascript/... usually need to know if they are http/https.
[14:34] <EriC^^> tete_: just add it to /etc/fstab
[14:35] <tete_> EriC^^, i dont have any information about the device
[14:35] <EriC^^> tete_: you mean you want it to automount any device you put?
[14:35] <tete_> jop
[14:35] <tete_> i dont care about the name or mount point, but it should get automounted
[14:35] <Tomasso> mmm the thing is that I need to do some scripting on a couple of internal sites, and they are https, and I deal with problems all the time from my scripts
[14:36] <EriC^^> there was a program for that
[14:36] <EriC^^> hold on
[14:36] <tete_> ok
[14:39] <BlankJack> finally
[14:40] <tete_> EriC^^, is it usbmount?
[14:40] <EriC^^> tete_: yeah i think so
[14:41] <tete_> ok will try that, thanks
[14:41] <EriC^^> no problem
[14:41] <tete_> hah perfect, works instantly :)
[14:41] <yacc> Tomasso: what are you using for scripting?
[14:41] <tete_> dev/sdb1 on /media/48EE20DBEE20C2D4
[14:41] <tete_> is the name always the same for that device?
[14:41] <Tomasso> yacc, ruby mechanize
[14:41] <tete_> i mean the mount point
[14:41] <yacc> Tomasso: and what's the problem?
[14:42] <Tomasso> SSL connections sometimes fail, and cause trouble.. if the site changes something breaks my scripts
[14:42] <yacc> Tomasso: if they are internal sites, you might have an issue with certificates, then the easiest way is to configure ruby mechanize not to do any certificate checking.
[14:42] <yacc> Tomasso: And why would you expect your scripts to be more resistent to changes as http?
[14:43] <Tomasso> because i have no problems with http
[14:43] <EriC^^> tete_: i think so
[14:43] <Tomasso> https makes me waste a lot of time
[14:43] <EriC^^> tete_: i think you can configure it to use what you want
[14:44] <EriC^^> tete_: i think that's the uuid
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> Tomasso  tip: Mozilla plans to make Firefox usbale for https only
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> usable*
[14:45] <yacc> Tomasso: well, nginx, Apache can handle your needs in "reverse proxy mode", squid probably too (as in rewriting locations)
[14:45] <Tomasso> jezz.. i hate passwords forms encriptionnnn
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> Tomasso  http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/security/mozilla-unencrypted-web-167592
[14:49] <Tomasso> exageration on security... with the pretext of securtiy they build the access for a porn site more secure and complicated than a bank account ,, come oooon
[14:50] <Tomasso> nobody is going to hack that |!
[14:50] <Tomasso> and if they do whats the problem
[14:50] <BlankJack> Whos hacking porn sites?
[14:51] <ikonia> BlankJack: no-one said anything about that, please don't be silly
[14:51] <Tomasso> its a way of saying implementing huge security for things that are not worthy
[14:51] <BlankJack> I read port...and hacking
[14:51] <Tomasso> and bother users with that
[14:51] <ikonia> BlankJack: right, which is not what you said
[14:51] <BlankJack> *porn...
[14:52] <almark> everything should be https on the web imo
[14:53] <ikonia> not quite sure how any of this is anything to do with ubuntu ?
[14:53] <almark> sortof of topic
[14:53] <BlankJack> it doesnt...
[14:54] <ikonia> so perhaps not for this channel then please.
[14:54] <BlankJack> ok :/
[14:54] <ikonia> eg: ##security
[15:09] <kappa1> I've installed ubuntu on an iMac, anyone knows about a program to automatically control the fan speeds?
[15:09] <somsip> !mac | kappa1
[15:10] <donofrio> humm, wondering why I thought virtualbox was *not* included in venom issue.....I thought it only effecte quem type of vm's (old dos games and the like) not VB???
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> donofrio  venom issue?
[15:12] <teward> donofrio: AIUI, VENOM affects multiple VM frameworks, not just qemu
[15:12] <jpds> MonkeyDust: VENOM.
[15:12] <teward> MonkeyDust: the recent VENOM vuln.
[15:12] <teward> http://venom.crowdstrike.com/
[15:13] <teward> donofrio: many things were affected, including VBox, AFAIK
[15:21] <shubhankar> Anyone knows how to enable notifications on some terminal function completion?
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> shubhankar  use notify-send
[15:22] <pi-> How do I, from the command line, show the chunk(s) of a config file that contain a particular text string (in my case DocumentRoot)
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> shubhankar  like so:   notify-send "System Update Successful"
[15:23] <craig__> hmm. not sure how my doppelganger (Craigwell) remained here
[15:23] <pbx> pi-, grep DocumentRoot foo.conf
[15:23] <craig__> the second Craigwelll is my iphone irc client,
[15:23] <craig__> but anyway..
[15:23] <pi-> Thanks pbx
[15:24] <craig__> I put the new drive in, booted live cd and did grub restore
[15:24] <craig__> works
[15:24] <craig__> but the ntfs partitions are wonky
[15:24] <craig__> one was just a common partition to share files between win7 and 14.04 easily,
[15:24] <craig__> the target drive version of that is filled up somehow'
[15:25] <craig__> when there should be 250gb free lol
[15:25] <craig__> the win7 partition wont boot
[15:25] <craig__> seen by grub and restored, but it's not happy
[15:25] <craig__> i'll work at it lol
[15:27] <marus> hello, any fix to this bug? lpq: Error - add '/version=1.1' to server name.
[15:27] <Craigwell> that's better
[15:29] <Craigwell> gparted hangs when i try "partition"->"check" for the ntfs partition
[15:30] <Craigwell> at least the 14.04/ ext4 operation went flawlessly
[15:30] <Craigwell> i have the new drive in the system now,
[15:30] <Craigwell> and will just keep the old drive around with enclosure and tinker / redo until I get it right. liveusb is a pain in the ass though
[15:30] <Craigwell> is there a way around it where the ntfs partitions i'm working with aren't mounted?
[15:32] <bsuniverse> what's the main difference between samsung s6 duos s9200 and s920FD
[15:32] <ikonia> ask samsung
[15:32] <ikonia> not #ubuntu
[15:32] <bsuniverse> ok
[15:33] <bsuniverse> just a test
[15:33] <Craigwell> haha
[15:33] <Craigwell> testing ikonia's reflexes
[15:37] <marus> hello, lpq: Error - add '/version=1.1' to server name.
[15:38] <adnan> i'm using xubuntu and having problem to browse facebook & gmail, and some other sites suddenly
[15:48] <tim_> just showing someone the help that is available on Ubuntu Servers
[15:49] <ikonia> tim_: just ask your question
[15:50] <tim_> ikonika - thanks. My friend works for lots of small businesses and I was just showing how friendly Ubuntu Server was as well as the support network available
[15:51] <Craigwell> yes, the freenode room seems to be the most active
[15:51] <tim_> cya everyone
[15:52] <Craigwell> i used to use the dalnet and efnet ones,
[15:52] <Craigwell> but they are pretty quiet these days
[15:52] <Craigwell> #ubuntu channels on those servers, that is to say
[15:52] <ikonia> tim_: so whats actually the question ?
[15:52] <Craigwell> ikonia: i dont think there was one
[15:52] <tim_> There is no question. I was just explaining how support works on Linux
[15:53] <Craigwell> tim_: they aren't all so grumpy
[15:53] <ikonia> no different than windows in the ##windows channel
[15:53] <ikonia> or debian in the #debian channel
[15:53] <tim_> I know - was part of the TV project :D
[15:53] <xangua> You mean how a community, volunteer support works?
[15:54] <Craigwell> is this more a demonstration of irc perhaps?
[15:54] <tim_> My friend is impressed with how quick responses came back..... demo for a new user base hopefully
[15:54] <tim_> many thanks everyone
[15:54] <xangua> ...
[15:55]  * Craigwell goes to high five the room. The room leaves him hanging
[15:55] <Craigwell> 1839 people, and I can't get a high five? :-(
[15:55] <tim_> Craigwell - High 5 back matey
[15:55] <Craigwell> haha
[15:56] <Craigwell> all i can suggest, on a more serious note - the people active in here vary at random, and you may not get instant help
[15:56] <Craigwell> google is also the best first step
[15:56] <jpds> Craigwell: ⁵
[15:56] <Craigwell> or a search engine of your choice
[15:56] <Craigwell> the knowledge base, forums are extensive in most cases,
[15:57] <Craigwell> but for tricky or hard to resolve issues, yeah, I always come back to irc, regardless of the subject
[15:57] <Craigwell> kodi/xbmc, ubuntu, hardware related etc
[15:57] <tim_> I know :D As I said b4, this was just a quick demo of what support can be like
[15:57] <Craigwell> we are all a bunch of dorks in one way or another
[15:57] <somsip> Craigwell: I think he got it. Can you tone done the -vvv a bit now...?
[15:57] <tim_> for newbies to Linux
[15:57] <somsip> *down
[15:57] <Craigwell> somsip ? wha ?
[15:58] <tim_> :d - cya all
[15:58] <somsip> Craigwell: not so verbose.
[15:58] <Craigwell> random chatter discouraged ?
[15:58] <somsip> Craigwell: yes
[15:58] <ikonia> ::q!
[15:58] <Craigwell> well i was idling looking for more help on my cloning / partitioning scenario,
[15:58] <somsip> Craigwell: feel free to idle in #ubuntu-offtopic. Thanks
[15:58] <Craigwell> figured i'd be (obliquely, verbosely) helpful
[15:59] <somsip> Craigwell: or ask if you have a direct question. But back to support now please.
[15:59] <YamakasY> I'm looking for a way with a bashscript to remove all old kernel images before the running from /boot would that be doable ?
[15:59] <Craigwell> ok
[15:59] <somsip> YamakasY: script is linked here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[15:59] <Craigwell> used clonezilla
[15:59] <Craigwell> old drive 120gb, new 500gb
[15:59] <somsip> !enter | Craigwell
[16:00] <Craigwell> made 4 partitions on the new drive first: a swap, ext4, and two ntfs. One contained win 7
[16:00] <somsip> Craigwell: try to be concise. otherwise people wont follow and you wont get a clear answer
[16:00] <YamakasY> somsip: you cannot run that when /boot is full and apt was not able to finish the installation of the newest kernel
[16:00] <Craigwell> i connected new drive to system via usb enclosure, booted tuxboot/clonezilla liveusb,
[16:00] <Craigwell> and did local partition to partition copy. The target drive partitions were all larger
[16:00] <Craigwell> orked perfect for ext4, 14.04 moved onto new partition with extra space, and all is well after grub-update
[16:01] <Craigwell> *worked
[16:01] <somsip> YamakasY: more info is always helpful. Manual script is here but *be careful* http://askubuntu.com/questions/401581/bash-one-liner-to-delete-only-old-kernels
[16:01] <Craigwell> there are issues with the ntfs partitions however,
[16:01] <Craigwell> can i deal with repairing or redoing the ntfs partitions without liveusb where they aren't mounted? using gparted, gnome disk utility, etc?
[16:01] <YamakasY> somsip: can also not be runned when apt didn't finish :)
[16:01] <YamakasY> somsip: I need to create room in /boot by removing the images
[16:03] <somsip> YamakasY: /boot is on a separate partition?
[16:04] <YamakasY> somsip: yes
[16:04] <YamakasY> somsip: always :)
[16:04] <somsip> YamakasY: best to always manage it before a crisis then...
[16:05] <YamakasY> somsip: no this is no crisis, I'm testing it out as it always can happen
[16:06] <Craigwell> Do i need to boot from liveusb to grow an ntfs filesystem to fit a new larger partition, if it's not mounted ??
[16:06] <ikonia> YamakasY: just remove the old kernel packages from the package manager then
[16:06] <ikonia> Craigwell: if it's not mounted, no
[16:07] <Craigwell> options beyond gparted or gnome disk utility in that case? ntfs seems to be giving gparted issues. I can mount the partitions via nautilus however, so the filesystems are intact
[16:07] <YamakasY> ikonia: that cannot be done, it's cli only and apt didn't finish so the package manager fails
[16:07] <ikonia> yes it can be done
[16:07] <ikonia> remove the packages you don't need via the command line
[16:07] <YamakasY> I know I can remove the images manuallu from /boot and it works but I need to get a command for that
[16:07] <YamakasY> ikonia: I need to
[16:07] <ikonia> no, you dno't remove the images
[16:07] <ikonia> you remove the packages
[16:07] <ikonia> the packages will remove the images for you
[16:09] <YamakasY> ikonia: but that cannot be done if a install -f is needed first
[16:09] <YamakasY> so
[16:09] <ikonia> yes it can
[16:09] <YamakasY> ikonia: how ?
[16:09] <ikonia> clean up the failing installs
[16:09] <YamakasY> ikonia: cleanup ?
[16:09] <ikonia> yes
[16:09] <YamakasY> example ?
[16:09] <Craigwell> Do I need to change the uuid in order for gparted to handle the ntfs filesystems?
[16:09] <ikonia> depends on why it's failing
[16:10] <ikonia> Craigwell: change it where ?
[16:10] <YamakasY> ikonia: it was not able to finish the last kernel install because /boot is full
[16:10] <YamakasY> so
[16:10] <Craigwell> in the gparted options for partitions containing ntfs filesystems, it gives me the option for "new uuid"
[16:10] <YamakasY> my best approach is to remove the unsed images by script
[16:10] <ikonia> YamakasY: so stop that change - clear up then clean up the packages
[16:10] <ikonia> Craigwell: you don't touch the UUID
[16:11] <Craigwell> ok. i was confusing that to changes in /etc/fstab perhaps
[16:11] <ikonia> Craigwell: after the resize you may need to
[16:11] <Craigwell> i saw mention of uuid in the cloning process, wondered about it
[16:11] <ikonia> you're not cloning
[16:11] <ikonia> you're resizing
[16:12] <Craigwell> i already cloned, now need to resize yes
[16:12] <Craigwell> gparted will not let me do it,
[16:12] <Craigwell> even with filesystems not mounted
[16:12] <Craigwell> it hangs
[16:13] <Craigwell> gparted itself will also not mount the file systems, but will recognize them once i mount via terminal or nautilus, file systems themselves are fine
[16:13] <Craigwell> i just need a way to resize
[16:13] <YamakasY> ikonia: so how would you clean that up than ?
[16:13] <ikonia> YamakasY: cancel the failed install
[16:13] <YamakasY> ikonia: how ?
[16:13] <Craigwell> do i need gparted on liveusb, or if it doesnt work here with the fs unmounted, do i have other issues?
[16:13]  * YamakasY is confused
[16:14] <ikonia> YamakasY: read the apt-get / dpkg docs - I'm trying to work here
[16:14] <ikonia> Craigwell: as you've been told "no"
[16:14] <YamakasY> ikonia: aren't we all ? you are wasting your time by suggesting instead of telling what is needed
[16:14] <ikonia> YamakasY: I've told you what's needed
[16:14] <ikonia> looking up the exact syntax shouldn't be too hard
[16:15] <Craigwell> ikonia: is there another option for this rather than gparted? is the gnome disk utility advisable to try this?
[16:15] <ikonia> I don't advise it
[16:15] <YamakasY> ikonia: yes but I was asking for a way of removing the images with a reason
[16:15] <YamakasY> this might not work as I need
[16:15] <ikonia> it will work as y ou need
[16:15] <ikonia> you're asking how to do it wrong
[16:15] <ikonia> I'm telling you how to do it right
[16:16] <bon0> how do i recover a root password on trusty server without grub?
[16:16] <ikonia> you can't recover it
[16:16] <ikonia> you need to reset it
[16:16] <bekks> !root | bon0
[16:17] <bon0> i mean to get root access
[16:17] <YamakasY> ikonia: yes but everything has a reason, so that's why I do it like that
[16:17] <ikonia> YamakasY: yes and it's wrong
[16:17] <ikonia> YamakasY: what reason do you have to not use the correct process ?
[16:19] <auronandace> YamakasY: manually removing kernel images will mess up the package management hence you are getting the error of install -f
[16:19] <Craigwell> I see a program called ntfsresize
[16:19] <YamakasY> auronandace: no it won't I already tested that out, works well
[16:19] <ikonia> it will
[16:19] <ikonia> because parts of the packages are missing
[16:19] <Craigwell> it doesnt mention win7,
[16:19] <ikonia> YamakasY: why are you not doing the correct process ?
[16:19] <YamakasY> ikonia: if you are stuck and you automate stuff, you might want to force it
[16:19] <Craigwell> but says it will work with ntfs, 32 or 64 bit,
[16:19] <ikonia> YamakasY: that is not forcing it
[16:19] <ikonia> that is breaking it
[16:20] <Craigwell> so i'll give that a whirl
[16:20] <YamakasY> ikonia: no it's not because when you have room you can do what you want and apt managed well
[16:20] <ikonia> no you can't
[16:20] <ikonia> you are breaking the package manager
[16:20] <ikonia> and to be honest - if you're that sure, why are you just not removing the kernel images
[16:20] <aardmark> Does anyone have suggestions on a easy to use tool for managing apache virtual servers, etc? Terminal based is ideal, but Web-based would be OK too…
[16:20] <ikonia> why are you asking what to do ?
[16:20] <ikonia> aardmark: vi
[16:20] <YamakasY> ikonia: who tested it on 20 machine, you or me ?
[16:21] <aardmark> hahaha vi?
[16:21] <ikonia> YamakasY: then why are you asking for hhelp  ?
[16:21] <ikonia> what's stopping you ?
[16:21] <Craigwell> how about kdepartition manager?
[16:21] <Craigwell> worth looking at?
[16:21] <YamakasY> ikonia: because I need a script for removing the unused kernel before the running one byt a script and than only the images in /boot
[16:21] <sberla> qualcuno a mai utilizzato il comando lpr per fare una stampa via shell
[16:21] <YamakasY> I now did it manually
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> !it
[16:21] <aardmark> @YamakasY I meant perhaps something more prompt-based / more wizard style
[16:21] <ikonia> YamakasY: so write one
[16:21] <ikonia> just script the manual step
[16:22] <somsip> aardmark: it really is best to learn how to set up conf files, and a text editor is the way to go. Maybe nano if vi offends
[16:22] <sberla> someone never used the lpr command to make a print via shell ?
[16:22] <YamakasY> ikonia: nah I need to see byt script which are in front of it
[16:22] <ikonia> YamakasY: whats the actual problem you are trying to sovle ?
[16:22] <somsip> sberla: worst phrased question ever. Can you rephrase?
[16:22] <ikonia> you're not making sense, you're asking for help but saying "no", you've said you've already done iit on 20 machines - so whats stopping you do it on the rest ?
[16:22] <ikonia> what do you actually need/want from the channel ?
[16:23] <aardmark> heheh - no offense taken.. I've been managing apache with vim for a long time, but enabling/disabling / managing 15 different virtual servers gets tiring with vi … just looking for something a little quicker / easier to juggle many virtual servers
[16:23] <YamakasY> ikonia: rm -rf image-*beforerunningkernel
[16:23] <somsip> aardmark: seriously, something like ansible may be helpful
[16:23] <ikonia> YamakasY: ??
[16:23] <ikonia> YamakasY: whaht do you actually need/want help with ?
[16:23] <YamakasY> ikonia: creating a script for that, can be a bash line simple
[16:23] <sberla> I have to print more ' file with the command LPTR but I can not find the correct syntax
[16:24] <zerowaitstate> aardmark: take a look at chef, puppet, or ansible
[16:24] <auronandace> YamakasY: why not use -autoremove?
[16:24] <ikonia> auronandace: because he doesn't want to do it the right way
[16:24] <aardmark> zerowaitstate: thanks - will explore those!
[16:24] <sberla> one file I was able to print it but to send more files in the queue can not print
[16:24] <ikonia> YamakasY: we are not going to help you break your package manager
[16:24] <YamakasY> auronandace: cannot do when a /boot is filled u'p
[16:24] <ikonia> if you can't write a basic script to compare the current kernel against older ones, you really should not be doing this
[16:24] <ikonia> YamakasY: yes you can do it
[16:24] <ikonia> as I've said 3 times
[16:24] <YamakasY> ikonia: you can't !
[16:24] <ikonia> YamakasY: you can
[16:24] <YamakasY> it will fail as it has no room being on 100%
[16:25] <YamakasY> it cannot regenerate grub
[16:25] <ikonia> correct it can't, but it will remove the package
[16:25] <YamakasY> nope also not
[16:25] <ikonia> so at the end the final kernel will have room
[16:25] <YamakasY> because apt fails
[16:25] <ikonia> so it will regenerate grub
[16:25] <zerowaitstate> aardmark: note those are not gui-tools. they are for serious scripting of configuration and setup
[16:25] <YamakasY> ikonia: I'm just testing that now and it won't
[16:26] <YamakasY> ikonia: and if I want to remove it that way you can help me out, I'm using puppet for all my other stuff so I go around the packagemanager anyway
[16:26] <somsip> aardmark: and I found ansible to be the simplest by far for automatic management of small-ish numbers of servers via ssh without needing a controlling server
[16:26] <zerowaitstate> ^
[16:26] <ikonia> YamakasY: if you can write puppet jobs, but can't write a 2 line shell script to remove your kernel - you should not be trying to remove your kernel with a shell script
[16:26] <ikonia> you could write a puppet module to do it if you are ok with ruby
[16:27] <YamakasY> ikonia: just say you don't have a clue how to write that line yourself, you are only arguing and not helping at all
[16:28] <ikonia> YamakasY: of course I know how to write it
[16:28] <aardmark> somsip: thanks makes sense
[16:28] <ikonia> trying to make it sound like I don't though won't help
[16:28] <somsip> aardmark: np
[16:28] <aardmark> zerowaitstate: thanks for the note - I'll explore this a bit…
[16:28] <ikonia> pull the kernel version from uname, diff it against your directory output of boot, rm the others
[16:28] <aardmark> I'm going to also explore webmin to get setup… any other web based tools?
[16:29] <YamakasY> ikonia: yes and I'm stuf there as I should not go above what I'm running
[16:29] <YamakasY> *stuck
[16:29] <bekks> !webmin | aardmark
[16:29] <ikonia> YamakasY: ok, so do it conditional
[16:29] <zerowaitstate> aardmark: scripting the setup is tricky at first, but you can built up your scripts over time, and once you have the config done, it's as easy to do it to 20 servers as to 2.
[16:29] <somsip> aardmark: you may find webmin is widely denounced
[16:29] <bekks> aardmark: better not touch webmin ;)
[16:29] <somsip> aardmark: see
[16:29] <aardmark> hahahah
[16:29] <aardmark> thanks for the resounding feedback :)
[16:30] <zerowaitstate> the problem with gui tools is that they are limiting and often don't keep up with changes to the underlying software
[16:30] <aardmark> any suggestions for a web-based tool? or should I just buck up and manage things manually?
[16:30] <aardmark> zerowaitstate: I hear ya… :-/
[16:30] <somsip> aardmark: buck up ;)
[16:30] <aardmark> somsip: msg rec'vd…
[16:30] <aardmark> le sigh
[16:30] <zerowaitstate> aardmark: automation is better in the long run than easy-button guis
[16:30] <aardmark> :)
[16:30] <kappa1> hi, my ubuntu just crashed, and I had to do a hard reboot. Is there any log file that I can check?
[16:30] <somsip> aardmark: whs ^
[16:30] <zerowaitstate> aardmark: for one thing, the configs you make for the automation are also a form of documentation
[16:31] <somsip> aardmark: which any other sysadmin/devops can pickup and use
[16:31] <trinode> Hey, I'm trying to convert an ubuntu gnome install to be able to launch unity too
[16:31] <somsip> aardmark: actually this is veering off topic. I think you follow my direction so I'll EOT here
[16:32] <aardmark> somsip: zerowaitstate: those are good points.
[16:32] <trinode> it's all going well but there's an issue with DBus when changing display settings, it's wanting to do something with gnome's settingsdaemon
[16:32] <aardmark> thanks for the suggestions everyone!
[16:32] <trinode> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files
[16:33] <esprit> hi
[16:34] <secret> bye
[16:35] <esprit> What news !!?
[16:35] <somsip> esprit: it's more of a 'I have a problem' channel. Support, not chat.
[16:38] <kappa1> hi, my ubuntu just crashed, and I had to do a hard reboot. Is there any log file that I can check?
[16:44] <zerowaitstate> kappa1: /var/log/syslog
[16:45] <zerowaitstate> kappa1: however, keep in mind if your machine locked up, it might not have been able to write to the disk. one of the hazards of hard failure...
[16:45] <trinode> wait.... my issue is systemd related?!
[16:45] <trinode> FFS
[16:45] <trinode> that didn't take long
[16:45] <zerowaitstate> trinode: the name GDBus took on a whole new meaning
[16:52] <rekt> anyone avaiable for some help?
[16:52] <ikonia> if you ask a question
[16:52] <rekt> I get  "undefined symbol: pthread_mutexattr_destroy" when loading a .so file
[16:52] <rekt> pthread is up to date, so I dunno whatit is
[16:52] <ikonia> "loading a .so file"
[16:52] <ikonia> what exactly are you doing
[16:53] <rekt> gameserver, it's a mod
[16:53] <ikonia> what is the exact command you are running please
[16:53] <rekt> The server "runs" the .so file
[16:53] <rekt> I just run +set fs_game modname
[16:54] <ikonia> rekt: so you need to look at what that is calling
[16:54] <fellayaboy> is it possible to SSH -X (X11 forward) an applicatin from ubuntu-server that has no desktop environment?
[16:54] <Seveas> rekt: your .so is not linked to libpthread
[16:54] <Seveas> try ldd on the .so
[16:55] <rekt> ikonia: it loads the library thisway : Sys_LoadGameDll(./ja/jampgamex86_64.so) failed: "./ja/jampgamex86_64.so: undefined symbol: pthread_mutexattr_destroy"
[16:55] <rekt> lemme try
[16:55] <fellayaboy> i have a ubuntu desktop client that will connect to a ubuntu server via SSH -X…
[16:56] <rekt> that's the output http://slexy.org/view/s2nvIXPFvL
[16:56] <rekt> of ldd
[16:57] <Seveas> rekt: so rebuild your .so properly, linking it against all the libraries it needs
[16:57] <Fjorgynn> .so
[16:57] <ikonia> yeah, it's not linked against that lib
[16:57] <rekt> Seveas: Well it's using a Scons script,
[16:57] <rekt> Seveas: I added -lpthread to the arg and still it didn't
[16:57] <Seveas> poor you
[16:58] <releaf> #vbox didn't know but anybody else here have trouble with bidirectional copy paste even after installing guest additions?
[16:58] <releaf> with Ubuntu 14.04 desktop?
[16:59] <rekt> so how do I link phtread? :/
[17:00] <Seveas> -lpthread should do the trick in the final gcc/ld call that links the .so. But I know scons only well enough to dislike it, not to actually be helpful :-)
[17:01] <rekt> Seveas: is there any chance I show you the scons script and locate where the lpthread goes?
[17:01] <rekt> I already tried -lpthread and nothing
[17:01] <Seveas> rekt: sure, pastebin it
[17:02] <rekt> Seveas: http://slexy.org/view/s21NOYGz8k
[17:05] <Seveas> rekt: line 136. Try env['LDFLAGS'] = ['-lpthread']
[17:05] <rekt> lemme see
[17:06] <Seveas> might need to be LINKFLAGS instead of LDFLAGS, but I've never used that. LDFLAGS is a well known thing
[17:07] <rekt> so I add it after 136 right?
[17:08] <Seveas> yeah
[17:08] <vaiobuntuxx> x
[17:11] <vaiobuntuxx> quote HELP
[17:15] <tgary> Hi! I just upgraded to 15.04, and the wifi stopped working. Here is the syslog: http://pastebin.ca/3003250 Any idea?
[17:16] <Seveas> tgary: is the networkmanager applet running?
[17:17] <Seveas> I've seen this happen when the applet crashes. "Best" solution is a reboot, possibly followed by deleting and re-adding the network in the applet.
[17:17] <tgary> Seveas: Yes. I clicked enable wifi (2 empty lines in pastebin) then clicked on 'Una' (name of AP). Finally could not get IP.
[17:18] <tgary> Seveas: I've re-added the connection, rebooted the machine. Others can use the wifi, and I get IP frm the same router using wired conn.
[17:23] <Fr3llD> hi all
[17:23] <bladepula> Since Ubuntu 15.04 I have a problem with my desktop. If I have few programs (windows) opened and try to close them, after I close the last program everything freezes... I think maybe it is a problem with unity?
[17:24] <ioria> tgary, your wifi ip is static or automatic ?
[17:24] <Craigwelll> When using clonezilla to clone a booting ntfs win 7 partition, I'm wondering about some of the extra parameters I can use
[17:24] <tgary> ioria: dynamic
[17:24] <tgary> ioria: (DHCP)
[17:24] <Craigwelll> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/SzGGLtN3/1431710689.JPG
[17:25] <Craigwelll> As seen in that image link
[17:25] <ioria> tgary, try to set it static and enter gateway and dns
[17:25] <Craigwelll> Should I mess with any of it?
[17:25] <rekt> Seveas: g++: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1plus)
[17:25] <Craigwelll> Sector by sector copy for example? Or the file system geometry for ntfs boot partition?
[17:27] <Craigwelll> I tried a clone earlier with no changes to parameters, but filesystems were not resized and I could not get gparted or anything else to do it
[17:27] <tgary> ioria: trying... (will disconnect)
[17:29] <ioria> tgary, dmesg | tail
[17:32] <xbuntu> ls usb
[17:32] <vaiobuntuxx> NICK one two
[17:34] <Fr3llD> so.. i think i found a bug in ubuntu 15.10.. but where do i report it? there's soo much info. I've checked fora, ubuntu wiki and other stuff and my case isn't mentioned.. where do i proceed from here?
[17:35] <EriC^^> Fr3llD: you mean 15.04?
[17:35] <Fr3llD> do i use launchpad?
[17:35] <Fr3llD> nu, im on 15.10
[17:35] <Fr3llD> *nu=no
[17:35] <EriC^^> !+1
[17:35] <EriC^^> !wily
[17:36] <Fr3llD> ah sry..
[17:36] <EriC^^> ask in that channel, they probably know
[17:36] <Fr3llD> you are correct
[17:36] <Fr3llD> 15.04
[17:36] <Fr3llD> i was on 14.10
[17:36] <EriC^^> oh
[17:36] <EriC^^> there's the program ubuntu-bug, type it in a terminal
[17:37] <EriC^^> or you could post on launchpad if ubuntu-bug doesn't fit it
[17:37] <EriC^^> !bug maybe
[17:37] <EriC^^> !bug
[17:37] <EriC^^> also check that link
[17:38] <Fr3llD> wow.. thats a great tool!
[17:38] <_X_C_V_B_> how I set ubuntu to use socks proxy for my account
[17:38] <FloKat> salut
[17:38] <EriC^^> _X_C_V_B_: settings > network
[17:39] <_X_C_V_B_> EriC^^: tried that
[17:39] <Fr3llD> sry, newbee here
[17:40] <sgflt> is there any place where i can some old saucy source packages right now?
[17:40] <_X_C_V_B_> EriC^^: I'm using xfce4 and used unity-control-center to there
[17:42] <Lord-Arhemadan> So, anyone have experience with GRUB? :)
[17:42] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: what's the problem?
[17:42] <condor_> hi
[17:42] <Lord-Arhemadan> Let's see if  can remember... haha!
[17:43] <EriC^^> hi condor_
[17:43] <Lord-Arhemadan> My brother just got this new computer two weeks ago, and we decided to install Ubuntu on it.
[17:43] <Lord-Arhemadan> Well, wasn't simple. I had to disable UEFI and SecureBoot just to get past anything, cause... I have no clue what else to do :)
[17:43] <Kenjiro> hello there.
[17:44] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: are you only installing ubuntu or leaving windows too
[17:44] <Lord-Arhemadan> Now it's installed... Except GRUB for some reason doesn't recognize Windows 8, the pre-installed OS.
[17:44] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: hello
[17:44] <EriC^^> uh oh
[17:44] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: you need to install ubuntu in uefi mode
[17:44] <Lord-Arhemadan> And, knowing this is UEFI and stuff... I have no clue where to start :D
[17:44] <Lord-Arhemadan> I do... Oh lordy :/
[17:45] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: first off, did you make the recovery disks?
[17:45] <Lord-Arhemadan> I guess I can learn something new :)
[17:45] <Lord-Arhemadan> I haven't... But I know Windows is still around :p
[17:45] <Kenjiro> guys/girls I am in the middle of a nightmare. I was updating an Ubuntu server (12.04). Then it complained about not finishing the process because of udev... because it depended on procps. But then procps depends on udev and.... what can I do now? :(
[17:45] <Lord-Arhemadan> Partition shows up, files show.
[17:45] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: ok, it's good practice to make those disks
[17:45] <Lord-Arhemadan> Gotcha!
[17:46] <Kenjiro> (that's they main thing that makes me deslike dependency management)
[17:46] <Kenjiro> *the
[17:46] <Lord-Arhemadan> I've never had to do anything with EFI... any guidance would be excellent haha :)
[17:47] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: basically just boot the usb in uefi mode, but don't select to reinstall ubuntu, cause it will wipe your whole disk
[17:47] <Lord-Arhemadan> USB... does it have to be USB?
[17:47] <Lord-Arhemadan> *Still Uses CDs, like a caveman* :)
[17:47] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: press Something else in the installer that will take you to the partitioner and then select the mountpoint and everything and install
[17:47] <tgary> ioria: Now with manual config it connects, but can not ping gateway (Destination Host Unreachable).
[17:47] <twone> #Ubuntu-Mx
[17:47] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: cd is fine
[17:48] <EriC^^> doesn't matter
[17:48] <Lord-Arhemadan> ok :D
[17:48] <ioria> tgary, iwconfig ?
[17:48] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: so don't press reinstall in the installer, press on Something else
[17:49] <Lord-Arhemadan> One second...
[17:49] <Lord-Arhemadan> I gotta turn UEFI back on in my BIOS haha :)
[17:49] <Kenjiro> any hints?
[17:49] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: did the upgrade finish?
[17:49] <gdoteof> my ubuntu crashed during an update and now gnome won't load
[17:49] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: no it didn't
[17:50] <Lord-Arhemadan> Hmm, what about secureboot? Do I need that on?
[17:50] <EriC^^> gdoteof: what do you mean by doesn't load
[17:50] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: you can leave it on if you want
[17:50] <Kenjiro> it complained about udev. Than I tried to upgrade/install only udev and it complained about procps, which complained about udev, ad infinitum
[17:50] <tgary> ioria: pastebin.ca/3003275
[17:50] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: you have to turn off fast boot from windows though if you want to mount the windows partition in ubuntu
[17:51] <Lord-Arhemadan> I see :)
[17:51] <EriC^^> cause the shutdown in windows is actually a hibernate, so you can only bypass that by restarting or just disable it which is easier
[17:52] <tgary> ioria: on the other machine the output is similar (which is working, I use it now for irc)
[17:52] <Lord-Arhemadan> ok :) *rebooting now*
[17:52] <gdoteof> EriC^^: i mean that it just crashes
[17:52] <ioria> tgary, it looks good, maybe Power Management:on
[17:52] <gdoteof> if I ctrl-alt fx
[17:53] <ioria> tgary, are you sure about the gateway ip ?
[17:53] <gdoteof> and lgoin and startx it complains about the nvidia driver
[17:53] <Lord-Arhemadan> Well... I have Legacy options and UEFI options when I hit the F12 boot menu. I guess CD via UEFI?
[17:53] <gdoteof> addscreen/screeninit failed for driver 0
[17:53] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: yeah
[17:53] <Lord-Arhemadan> Figured
[17:54] <EriC^^> gdoteof: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:54] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: any clues?
[17:54] <EriC^^> gdoteof: also sudo apt-get -f install
[17:54] <Lord-Arhemadan> Now at GRUB: Try, Install, OEM Install, Check Disc
[17:54] <Night_Elf> So then, users of Ubuntu, where can I deactivate the cursed desire for Ubuntu Server to delete the bash history when the hardware is rebooted? This is so annoying, trying to inject this pseudo-security by erasing something as handy as command history. :/
[17:55] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: procps doesn't depend on udev
[17:55] <tgary> ioria: how can I turn off pwr mgmt? Yes, even route -n is similar.
[17:55] <Lord-Arhemadan> (Goodness, EriC^^... You're getting busy today haha! :D )
[17:55] <gdoteof> i don't want to upgrade the distro
[17:55] <gdoteof> i want to stay on 14.04
[17:55] <gdoteof> i did try -f install
[17:55] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: tell that to the ubuntu-server I am trying to fix *LOL*
[17:56] <EriC^^> gdoteof: that doesn't upgrade the distro, it just upgrades the packages and kernel
[17:56] <gdoteof> both of those just return 0 upgraded 0 newly installed
[17:56] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: what exactly is it saying?
[17:56] <gdoteof> it is asking me to reinstall the nvidia driver int he log file
[17:56] <gdoteof> this is a jetson board which is probably worth mentioning
[17:56] <ioria> tgary, sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off
[17:57] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: ok, press install
[17:57] <EriC^^> and then when you get at the menu choose Something else
[17:57] <EriC^^> i can't stress enough :P
[17:57] <EriC^^> i wiped my windows by reinstalling and i didn't have a recovery disk, and my os was one of a kind so it sucked
[17:58] <OerHeks> Night_Elf, set bash_history to read only :-)
[17:58] <EriC^^> ended up recovering the recovery partition with testdisk and manually extracting the windows image, learnt some stuff though
[17:58] <Lord-Arhemadan> Gotcha! :) I have a little experience with the partitioner thankfully. Shouldnt be as hard as I'm thinking.
[17:58] <Lord-Arhemadan> And Ouch, dude! :(
[17:58] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: a friend just told me to try "apt-get upgrade procps udev"
[17:58] <Kenjiro> that solved the problem
[17:58] <Kenjiro> AMAZING
[17:59] <tgary> ioria: no, still can not ping.
[17:59] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: that's great!
[17:59] <OerHeks> Night_Elf, or "execute the following commands to clear history forever > history -c && history -w"
[18:00] <OerHeks> Night_Elf, i would leave some important commands in it.
[18:00] <ioria> tgary, anyway i was looking at you syslog file and i found this: dbus: Failed to construct signal   warn> could not get interface properties
[18:00] <EriC^^> gdoteof: type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices
[18:00] <Night_Elf> OerHeks: The freaking whatever has set my user's .bas_history and .mysql_history as owned by 'root', I just found this out. wtf. I want my history to be mine, not root's. It is so annoying to need to add a cronjob to give me back my own permitions.
[18:01] <EriC^^> Night_Elf: what freaking whatever?
[18:01] <gdoteof> EriC^^: no output
[18:01] <gdoteof> startx still fails
[18:01] <Night_Elf> EriC^^: I don't know what did it, but definitely not me. History was fine, untill I rebooted the machine.
[18:02] <EriC^^> gdoteof: don't use startx, use sudo service lightdm/gdm restart and login
[18:02] <EriC^^> gdoteof: type lspci | grep VGA
[18:02] <gdoteof> EriC^^: it still just fails
[18:03] <tgary> ioria: it was after I turned on wifi. But the AP shoed up, and the I clicked it to connect. (I don't know if it is a problem or not..)
[18:03] <gdoteof> full output of lspci is just PCI bridge and ethernet controller
[18:03] <gdoteof> EriC^^: just two lines out output
[18:03] <ioria> tgary, if you give sudo ifconfig wlan0 up ?
[18:04] <gdoteof> s/out /of /
[18:04] <Lord-Arhemadan> EriC^^: BACK! Had to bestow myself divine food
[18:05] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: welcome back
[18:05] <Lord-Arhemadan> Kimchi ftw
[18:05] <Lord-Arhemadan> Anyhow, let's get through the menus...
[18:05] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: woooops!
[18:06] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: the server I issued a "apt-get upgrade procps udev" was not the one with problems
[18:06] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: oh
[18:07] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: did you issue it on the one with problems yet?
[18:07] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: the server with problems is a VM which ins't booting. I then boot it with the install disk, so I am on the system by means of chroot.
[18:07] <Lord-Arhemadan> Alrighty :) I'm at the partition menu. What do I do?
[18:07] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: yes, I tried and it complained
[18:07] <EriC^^> what did it say?
[18:07] <tgary> ioria: Operation not possible due to RF-kill. So I issued rfkill unblock wlan, but still does not work. The connection seems to be up, "only" ping does not work.
[18:07] <ioria> tgary, sudo rfkill unblock all
[18:08] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/NggQ4DDM
[18:08] <tgary> ioria: same
[18:08] <Kenjiro> I guess it won't be able to connect to Upstart because of he chroot, right?
[18:09] <ioria> tgary, reboot, maybe :(
[18:09] <ioria> tgary, ah... iwlist wlan0 scan ?
[18:10] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: it should work
[18:11] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: i found this online sudo dpkg-divert --local --rename --add /sbin/initctl
[18:11] <EriC^^> ln -s /bin/true /sbin/initctl
[18:11] <EriC^^> maybe it'll work
[18:12] <Kenjiro> let me see that...
[18:12] <Lord-Arhemadan> EriC^^ : I know I should probably set my / to my ubuntu partition. But other than that... I'm lost as to EFI. :(
[18:12] <Lord-Arhemadan> Maybe delete the biosgrub partition since I might not need it?
[18:12] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: ok, set the efi partition as the /boot/efi partition, it's a fat32 partition at the start of the disk usually or so
[18:13] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: yeah you don't need it, it's like 1mb though
[18:13] <EriC^^> if you're sure of stuff go for it
[18:14] <tgary> ioria: reboot did not work, iwlist lists available APs. The same that I see in nm applet's list.
[18:14] <Lord-Arhemadan> I can't set the mountpoint.. There's an option for /dev/sda1 (efi) in "Device for Boot loader installation:" Is that... any different?
[18:15] <ioria> tgary, rfkill list ?
[18:15] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: i think it's the same, not sure
[18:15] <tgary> ioria: lol. I can connect to the neighbor's AP. They use no pw, at my house WPA is used.
[18:15] <ioria> tgary, lol
[18:15] <Lord-Arhemadan> Well... you only live once! *picks it*
[18:16] <EriC^^> hehe
[18:16] <EriC^^> is sda1 the fat32 partition?
[18:16] <Lord-Arhemadan> Hmmm
[18:16] <ioria> tgary, rfkill list ?
[18:16] <Lord-Arhemadan> sda1 is type efi while sda2 is type fat32
[18:17] <EriC^^> ok
[18:17] <Lord-Arhemadan> Not sure if that changes things :)
[18:17] <EriC^^> that's probably it
[18:17] <Lord-Arhemadan> Sweet
[18:17] <EriC^^> you still have to set the swap
[18:17] <Lunario> hi guys. i am running ubuntu 14.04 for already one year now. yesterday i changed some themes, installed new ones and some new icon packs etc., and now gnome/unity crashes quite often
[18:17] <EriC^^> if you want one
[18:17] <Lord-Arhemadan> 16GB of RAM. I don't think he needs one ;)
[18:17] <Lunario> it randomly brings me back to the login screen and all applications close
[18:18] <EriC^^> Lunario: it's probably segfaulting or something
[18:18] <gdoteof> i'm giving up on fixing this thing
[18:18] <gdoteof> just reflashing it
[18:18] <EriC^^> Lunario: type less /var/log/syslog and press G
[18:19] <EriC^^> gdoteof: a fresh install is probably better if you don't have a problem
[18:19] <Lunario> EriC^^: ok, what then?
[18:19] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: looks like that tip really solved it.
[18:19] <EriC^^> just back up the list of installed packages, and backup your home and fresh install
[18:19] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: cool
[18:20] <EriC^^> Lunario: look for any errors or segfaults
[18:20] <Kenjiro> EriC^^: I am letting it do a "update && upgrade" now
[18:20] <Flo_K> re
[18:20] <paleolithic> hello there, I am asked to upgrade to the current version of firefox, to fix some problems. would it create problems with ubuntu, when I have the most recent version?
[18:20] <EriC^^> Kenjiro: ok
[18:20] <EriC^^> paleolithic: you mean using a ppa?
[18:20] <Lunario> May 15 17:30:34 luna-msi kernel: [ 1522.806087] compiz[3222]: segfault at 48 ip 00007f8cf9215840 sp 00007fff0529f028 error 4 in libscale.so[7f8cf9204000+27000]
[18:21] <Lunario> there are quite a few of these segfaults
[18:21] <EriC^^> Lunario: ok, compiz is segfaulting
[18:21] <Samul`> OK I've got a problem
[18:21] <paleolithic> EriC^^, maybe. I havent checked how I can install the latest firefox yet
[18:21] <Samul`> ubuntu 15.04 64 bit, vlc is extremely laggy
[18:21] <paleolithic> I mean, dont know which methods are available
[18:21] <EriC^^> Lunario: did you do any scaling stuff? it says libscale.so
[18:21] <tgary> ioria: soft blocked: no, hard blocked: no for everything (including acer-wireless Wireless LAN, phy0: Wireless LAN) (I have 1 wifi card)
[18:21] <Samul`> and when I jump to another timestamp of the video I'm watching, the audio disappears
[18:22] <Samul`> to avoid this, I have to pause the video first
[18:22] <Lunario> uhm i'm not sure EriC, could be
[18:22] <Samul`> then jump to the sec I want to go to, and then play the video
[18:22] <Samul`> and, again, it's laggy
[18:22] <gdoteof> well i do have a problem
[18:22] <ioria> tgary, iwconfig wlan0 | grep "Power Management" ?
[18:22] <gdoteof> i just dno' tknow how to solve it
[18:22] <gdoteof> other than reflashing it
[18:22] <EriC^^> gdoteof: i mean if you don't have a problem with backing up and fresh installing
[18:22] <Samul`> this seems not to happen with all videos
[18:23] <EriC^^> it would be best cause, cause the upgrade was borked
[18:23] <Samul`> with one in particular, which is HD
[18:23] <gdoteof> i lose like 7 hours of compilation time only
[18:23] <gdoteof> which i can just run again tonight i think
[18:23] <tgary> ioria: on, but now I tried with off, and still not working.
[18:24] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: ok, if he wants to hibernate he needs swap though
[18:24] <ioria> tgary, so you can connect to  other's AP but not yours ?
[18:25] <Samul`> is anyone willing to help me?
[18:25] <paleolithic> I am getting some errors with firefox and I am advised to install the latest version. would this be problematic? I have 14.04.2.
[18:25] <EriC^^> paleolithic: no, using ppa's though might cause issues
[18:25] <tgary> ioria: maybe the wpa can be the cause. Yes,  they use no password, I use WPA Personal. However the password seems to be ok, as I can not get IP, but otherwise seems to be ok.
[18:25] <paleolithic> EriC^^, how else could I install it?
[18:26] <EriC^^> paleolithic: just upgrade the package through the repos
[18:26] <ioria> tgary, did you inset the ,in Network Connection, the ssid and password ?
[18:26] <ioria> *insert
[18:26] <EriC^^> paleolithic: which package do you have right now? type apt-cache policy firefox
[18:27] <paleolithic> EriC^^, it says: Installed: 37.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
[18:27] <paleolithic>   Candidate: 38.0+build3-0ubuntu0.14.04.1
[18:27] <ioria> tgary, you selected wpa, wpa2 personal ?
[18:27] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo apt-get install firefox
[18:27] <EriC^^> paleolithic: i think it will offer to upgrade it
[18:28] <tgary> ioria: When I first selected the AP, it asked for the password. Yes, WPA & WPA2 Personal is selected.
[18:29] <paleolithic> EriC^^, it began to upgrade straight on, without even asking :)
[18:29] <EriC^^> :)
[18:30] <ioria> tgary, try to insert it in Network Connection -> wi-fi security
[18:32] <tgary> ioria: I don't get. On the wi-fi security tab wpa & wpa2 personal is selected, and under it there is the right password.
[18:33] <paleolithic> EriC^^, now I have 38.0. hope this fixes errors. thank you very much!
[18:33] <EriC^^> paleolithic: great, no problem!
[18:33] <ioria> tgary, you inserted netmask ? 255.255.255.0
[18:35] <Lord-Arhemadan> Well, install finished :)
[18:36] <HumanBeing> hey, installing ubuntu server 14.04 LTS.  By default, the boot partition is 254.8 MB in size but I would like to increase this before I write changes to disk.  Is this possible?
[18:36] <Lord-Arhemadan> O_O
[18:36] <Lord-Arhemadan> Oh cool
[18:36] <Lord-Arhemadan> DUDE, THANKS SO MUCH :D
[18:37] <Lord-Arhemadan> Windows boots with Ubuntu now, Eric^^ :)
[18:37] <tgary> ioria: You mean the IPv4 settings: now I wrote them manually but still does not work. However the connection is made.
[18:37] <EriC^^> Lord-Arhemadan: great :)
[18:37] <ioria> tgary, iwconfig ?
[18:38] <ioria> tgary, sorry, ifconfig ?
[18:38] <tgary> ioria: nm writes: "connected to Una", but Destination Host Unreachable during ping
[18:39] <ioria> tgary, but ifconfig  ? and what is your gateway ip ?
[18:41] <tgary> ioria: ifconfig and route: pastebin.ca/3003294
[18:43] <ioria> tgary, you know exactly you gateway ip ?
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> tgary  run this   sudo resolvconf -u
[18:45] <aktomariel_2012> Hi
[18:45] <aktomariel_2012> I am from Kiev, Ukraine
[18:45] <daftykins> hello
[18:45] <daftykins> that's nice, do you have a support question?
[18:45] <Johnny_Linux> el oh el
[18:46] <ioria> tgary, have you put  192.168.0.1 in gateway ?
[18:47] <Flo_K> hi, i'd like to install & run an other DE under 15.04, is it possible without conflict between GNOME/Unity (base) and Cinnamon ?
[18:47] <tgary> ioria: no, it should be 192.168.1.254
[18:47] <aktomariel_2012> I have virtualboix on Windows 7 and guest Cyborg-Hawk ( it betrter alternave to akli linux) I need have sound iputy to Ubuntu guestr I get windows vwrsion of jack2 driver ho econnetr netjack betwenn on Windows I use virtual adio cable anan Ubuntu guest ? form guert I play soun but no able recor form sound input
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> Flo_K  yes, install it, logout, switch, login
[18:48] <tgary> ioria, MonkeyDust: resolvconf -u is empty
[18:48] <ioria> tgary, try with   192.168.0.1
[18:48] <ioria> tgary, sorry 192.168.1.0
[18:48] <tgary> ioria: why? This is not my gw. The other laptop works with gw 192.168.1.254 using the Una AP.
[18:48] <Flo_K> MonkeyDust, where should i switch between the DE ? at login screen ?
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> tgary  that's what I thought... run this, change it and then run sudo resolvconf -u -- first this   sudo -e /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> Flo_K  yes
[18:49] <aktomariel_2012> I run sdrsharp rtl-sdr on wondpws an need send audio to linux programs
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> aktomariel_2012  that's hard to read, please rephrase
[18:50] <Flo_K> MonkeyDust, ok thanks
[18:51] <ioria> tgary, usually the gateway is 192.168.1.1, or 192.168.1.0, or 0.1   , not always
[18:52] <Flo_K> MonkeyDust, this pkg cinnamon 2.2.16-5ubuntu1 is the correct one for the full DE ?
[18:52] <tgary> ioria: I don't know why, but this modem works this unconventional way. Other machines work with this config.
[18:52] <tgary> MonkeyDust, ioria: I wrote the resolv.conf, but it is DNS config. I even can not ping the gateway.
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> Flo_K  not sure, simply use what's in the repos
[18:53] <ioria> tgary, your ifconfig is ok
[18:53] <tgary> MonkeyDus, ioria: while the connection seems to be up..
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> Flo_K  try   sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[18:53] <ioria> tgary, ping 192.168.1.0
[18:54] <Flo_K> MonkeyDust, ok, i was wondering because of its size (10mo)
[18:56] <Flo_K> (there are dependencies)
[18:56] <tgary> ioria: Do you want broadcast? (-b) I tried, nothing.
[18:57] <ioria> tgary, no,    unlikely
[18:59] <ioria> tgary, sorry, what is 169.254.0.0  ?
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> 169.254 is an automatic ip address
[19:00] <ioria> oh
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> it's set if no other gateway is set
[19:00] <ioria> thanx
[19:00] <daftykins> APIPA no less :>
[19:01] <daftykins> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address
[19:10] <ioria> tgary, don't you picked up an already used ip ?
[19:11] <Craigwell> still having trouble with clonezilla. I'm ready for another approach.
[19:11] <Craigwell> I have two ntfs partitions I want to copy to a larger drive.
[19:11] <Craigwell> resizing the file systems upward to take advantage of larger partitions
[19:12] <Craigwell> clonezilla is quite versatile, I understand - and I did ensure the parameter -r to resize was set when I did a device-device local partition copy - but it's not working
[19:12] <hokaido> Hi
[19:13] <robert__> hello
[19:13] <Craigwell> tried twice. file system is copied intact, but will not resize to new partition size
[19:13] <robert__> i forgot the admin passwoed for my computer can someone please help me
[19:14] <hemphill> I am trying to completely remove a a package and reinstall it.  Even with the purge and remove flags apt-get doesn't seem to want to do it. What is the correct way to completely remove a package including all of it's data and directories?
[19:14] <hokaido> Grub is bug i am fix grub for http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd but ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc mount: mount point /mnt/proc does not exist not worked, where is my mistake
[19:14] <robert__> i can log in but i cant run sudo or install programs etc
[19:14] <SchrodingersScat> !password | robert__
[19:15] <robert__> what does "!password | robert__" mean
[19:16] <daftykins> robert__: read what ubottu said, it's a bot trigger
[19:16] <robert__> ooooh
[19:17] <hokaido> mount: mount point /mnt/proc does not exist why it is problem, it is imposible
[19:17] <robert__> thats the one i need the root password, i  forgot it and i have work to do but cant now :(
[19:17] <daftykins> there is no root password
[19:18] <daftykins> if you set one and bypassed the entire way that ubuntu works, then you are very silly indeed
[19:18] <ioria> tgary, you have - Encryption key:off  - in iwconfig
[19:19] <hokaido> How ubuntu live CD no see system HDD disk but terminal view partition sda4
[19:20] <daftykins> hokaido: you mean the installer can't see the disk?
[19:22] <hokaido> I am use live cd my grub is not worked i am use http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd but not worked sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && sudo mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/dev/pts && sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc && sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys terminal send text mount: mount point /mnt/dev does not exist
[19:23] <nusz> hi
[19:23] <robert__> hi
[19:23] <daftykins> hokaido: what language do you normally speak?
[19:23] <daftykins> your mount commands must have failed.
[19:23] <hokaido> Polish
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> !pl
[19:23] <hokaido> I know my command
[19:24] <hokaido> Help for irc pl ha ha it is imposible
[19:24] <kill> New to ubuntu, trying to update a package.  After running Git Pull - do i just Cmake again or do I need to rm Build first?
[19:24] <daftykins> that's not a package, kill :)
[19:25] <nusz> i try to get sound via my hdmi device. but there seems to be no hdmi device (from alsa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11152208/).:-)
[19:25] <kill> What ever it might be called
[19:25] <kill> A program, an application
[19:25] <kill> A software package
[19:26] <kill> I pulled a repository and built it, now i run    git pull to update it
[19:26] <daftykins> nusz: what is your HDMI port provided by? intel on-CPU graphics, or a graphics card?
[19:26] <kill> do i need to rebuild?
[19:26] <ioria> it's not gentoo
[19:26] <SchrodingersScat> !build | kill
[19:26] <hokaido> == Cannot send to channel: #ubuntu-pl
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> kill  are you a developper?
[19:26] <solsTiCe> kill: rebuild yes but not necessarly clean it
[19:26] <daftykins> hokaido: you probably have to be registered
[19:26] <daftykins> !register
[19:27] <hokaido> My account is on ubuntu, but ubuntu from pc not worked
[19:27] <kill> I might have forgot to run Make after Cmake
[19:27] <kill> Let me see if this updates the version
[19:27] <daftykins> hokaido: sorry but you don't make any sense.
[19:28] <hokaido> ok
[19:28] <nusz> daftykins: yeah, intel, on-CPU
[19:29] <hamza_> hello, i'm using Ubuntu with multiple screens perfectly, but looks like there's isn't any hardcoded screens sections of the default /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d directory
[19:29] <daftykins> nusz: and your only display is HDMI attached?
[19:29] <hamza_> how do i refer to a specific screen from within a script with say, an environment variable?
[19:29] <daftykins> hamza_: no X auto detects at boot these days
[19:30] <nusz> nusz: intel haswell mobile; my display connection is great, but there is no sound to my tv.:-)
[19:30] <hokaido> terminal - http://paste.ubuntu.com/11152505/
[19:30] <hamza_> daftykins: than how does it plug and play? also auto detection?
[19:30] <daftykins> hamza_: read your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what it does.
[19:30] <solsTiCe> hamza_: or xrandr output
[19:31] <daftykins> hamza_: are you serious? your graphics adapter queries the displays connected and receives the modes they're capable of via EDID information
[19:32] <hamza_> daftykins: looks like your right, this is what it does at boot from the Xorg.0.log
[19:33] <hamza_> [    42.178] (II) GLX: Initialized DRI2 GL provider for screen 0
[19:33] <hamza_> [    42.180] (II) intel(0): switch to mode 1366x768@60.1 on LVDS1 using pipe 0, position (0, 0), rotation normal, reflection none
[19:33] <hamza_> [    42.200] (II) intel(0): switch to mode 1920x1080@60.0 on HDMI1 using pipe 1, position (0, 0), rotation normal, reflection none
[19:33] <hamza_> [    42.208] (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 285
[19:33] <daftykins> please don't paste in here
[19:33] <hamza_> ok
[19:33] <daftykins> yes the Xorg log tells you how it arrives at the settings it does
[19:34] <nusz> daftykins: intel haswell mobile; my display connection is great, but there is no sound to my tv.:-)
[19:35] <daftykins> nusz: yeah i saw your highlight to yourself ;) nothing in audio settings huh? sounds odd.
[19:35] <daftykins> nusz: which ubuntu version?
[19:36] <nusz> daftykins: :-), 15.04
[19:36] <daftykins> hmm, does it work from a Live session?
[19:37] <hamza_> so there isn't anyway to refer except hardcoding the default Xorg file or adding my own in $HOME to define an environment variable?
[19:37] <nusz> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11152574/
[19:38] <daftykins> hamza_: i don't have a clue about going about what you are, but displays usually get referred to by numbers
[19:38] <tgary_> ioria, MonkeyDust: first I reinstalled networkmanager (that did not help) then set the router to "WPA2 Only" instead of "WPA/WPA2". I think it is some weird Ubuntu bug, which is workarounded now. Thanks for the help!!
[19:39] <daftykins> mixed mode WPA always fails ^
[19:39] <ioria_2> tgary great
[19:39] <hamza_> daftykins: the question is how do i get that number, in the log it refers only screen 0
[19:39] <hamza_> while i use two screens
[19:40] <ioria_2> tgary i was telling you this in your iwconfig Encryption key:off
[19:40] <hamza_> i'm asking because i want to run an opengl application in a seperate X session, but the screen spans multiple screens
[19:41] <ioria_2> tgary maybe it's a router bug :-P
[19:41] <hamza_> there are only differences in the log by pipe, the HDMI screen is sent through the integrated card by pipe 1
[19:42] <daftykins> hamza_: check out the answer here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/68354/is-there-any-way-to-specify-which-workspace-and-or-window-to-launch-a-program-in
[19:42] <Guest33732> Anyone know how to install a DS3?
[19:42] <ioria_2> tgary_ maybe it's a router bug :-P
[19:42] <Guest33732> I'm running PCSX2 and the right stick is always moving to the left, despite being mapped properly
[19:45] <tgary_> ioria_2: It can be, but the other (Gentoo, Windowses) can handle it, Ubuntu 14.04 could handle it.
[19:46] <ioria_2> tgary_ oh, that's interesting
[19:46] <tgary_> ioria_2: Now on my "good" laptop Encription Key is also off which connects to the WPA2 only AP.
[19:47] <ioria_2> tgary_ other wifi chipset maybe
[19:48] <bobobob_bob> I am trying to make a computer for traveling the US.  I want to use it to basically keep bad guys out and let me and family do our internet thing without too much hassles.  So it will be used sort of like router.  Possible connections  ISP on it could be wireless, wired, or USB tether from cell.  Question is how can I make it more "automatic" on moving from wireless to wireless automatic as most wireless will be hotels and starbu
[19:48] <ioria_2> tgary_ how it worked before  ?
[19:48] <tgary_> ioria_2: it worked with all computers before with the WPA/WPA2 setting.
[19:48] <ioria_2> tgary_ i see
[19:49] <bobobob_bob> will Gnome networking do this?  I've used it in single house but could it find new wireless networks and connect or even balance usage between connections?  just curious
[19:49] <tgary_> ioria_2: Now I think my router somehow "hated" my MAC since the upgrade, and in the process when I rebooted the router maybe it reset itself..
[19:50] <ioria_2> tgary_ you have broadcom ?
[19:50] <tgary_> ioria_2: I did not want to disturb others, as for them the internet worked (only this one laptop was excluded).
[19:51] <tgary_> ioria_2: It is an "ADB" router, the ISP sent it.
[19:51] <daftykins> bobobob_bob: router? so not just connected and used directly?
[19:51] <daftykins> bobobob_bob: no it will not load balance connections
[19:51] <ioria_2> tgary_ no, i mean the wifi card
[19:51] <bobobob_bob> daftykins: doh
[19:52] <bobobob_bob> daftykins: no worries.
[19:52] <NickeLodeoN> w
[19:52] <NickeLodeoN> wed
[19:52] <NickeLodeoN> erdre
[19:52] <NickeLodeoN> qqwerrt
[19:52] <NickeLodeoN> qwerty
[19:53] <NickeLodeoN> clear
[19:53] <TheNumb> NickeLodeoN: please stop.
[19:53] <NickeLodeoN> sorry
[19:55] <tgary_> ioria_2: lspci says: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24) (It is in an acer travelmate.)
[19:57] <ioria_2> tgary_ ah, ok ... glad you have solved !   Üdvözlet
[19:58] <tgary_> ioria_2: Thanks for the help! Szia!
[19:58] <ioria_2> ^_^
[19:59] <hamza_> daftykins: that didn't work, as i have singular screen(but two pipes), i'll have to check at what the integrated graphics render pipeline looks like
[19:59] <hamza_> thanks anyway
[20:02] <daftykins> hamza_: no idea what you're talking about with pipes
[20:04] <hamza_> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/D0qt51fv
[20:04] <daftykins> tb
[20:04] <hamza_> the xorg parameter works this way, :$(SESSION):$(SCREEN) or something like that
[20:04] <hamza_> i have only screen 0
[20:04] <daftykins> oops, i don't think what you are pointing out there disproves what i gave you as a suggestion of how to put things to multiple displays
[20:05] <daftykins> i think i just don't know the topic well enough perhaps
[20:06] <hamza_> it's ok, i'll go a lot of hurdles my way, because i'm also going to be launching through optirun, which launches yet another X session to make things more complicated
[20:07] <hamza_> i jsut jumped here for suggestioms, and i appreciate you helping me
[20:07] <daftykins> np
[20:29] <mareco> hi ppl
[20:29] <mareco> new here!
[20:30] <mareco> can anyone help me?
[20:30] <daftykins> not until you ask a question
[20:30] <mareco> :)
[20:30] <mactel> hai
[20:30] <mareco> booting linux from pen drive. system freezes and unfreezes continuously
[20:31] <rap424> l
[20:31] <daftykins> mareco: which version? how did you create the drive? was the download corrupted?
[20:31] <daftykins> !md5 | mareco
[20:32] <mareco> used unetbootin
[20:32] <mareco> 14.02
[20:37] <rap424> mareco: Is the system booted and functional (when it's not frozen)? Does your system have the minimum requirements (RAM, disk space, etc) for 14.02?
[20:37] <mareco> so is this from my pen?
[20:37] <marianne_> hello,  anyone out there have any success with installing ubuntu 14.04 on a late 2012 iMac? just want to know if there are any gremlins I should be aware of
[20:37] <mareco> i'm re-creating the boot drive
[20:38] <rap424> mareco: How much RAM does the machine you are using to boot from the drive have?
[20:39] <maarhart> I get a segfault with libice.so.6. so I guess the issue is libice6. I want to remove it and install again but there are all these issues with dependencies. who could help me?
[20:39] <mareco> rap424 4GB
[20:40] <daftykins> mareco: which OS did you make the drive from?
[20:40] <rap424> mareco: Ok, that's plenty =) so that's not the issue. You may also want to try another USB port to rule out any hardware issues
[20:40] <daftykins> mareco: it's possible the drive is at fault yeah, so i'm suggesting measures to avoid that
[20:41] <daftykins> there is no such version as 14.02
[20:44] <mareco> created ir with mac os
[20:44] <OerHeks>  14.04.2 maybe
[20:44] <JDTEam> hello
[20:46] <daftykins> mareco: ah. i'd say try 'dd' but i don't know how device naming works in OS X so i can't help
[20:46] <JDTam> Có tên VN nào không :3
[20:46] <maarhart> help anyone?
[20:46] <Neo33> hello everybody in the matrix!!!Let's fuck all the bots around us!!!
[20:47] <JDTeam> What'up maarhart
[20:47] <genii> Neo33: That's not appropriate language for this channel.
[20:47] <Neo33> :)
[20:48] <Neo33> I am looking for Morpheus
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | Neo33
[20:48] <Neo33> i dont give a fuck about u and this channel
[20:50] <YokoBR> guys, i've inserted /dev/sda5       /mnt/backup     ext4    remount-ro,acl,user_xattr,usrquota,grpquota,acl         0       0  in /etc/fstab, but it didn't worked
[20:50] <YokoBR> what would be the correct way to do it?
[20:50] <daftykins> most of those options you've used are wrong
[20:51] <reisio> YokoBR: to do what
[20:51] <YokoBR> GREAT
[20:51] <Ben64> YokoBR: yeah, where did you find those options
[20:51] <daftykins> YokoBR: delete all of remount-ro,acl,user_xattr,usrquota,grpquota,acl and put "auto,user" instead and replace the second 0 with a 2
[20:52] <fj_> I am having this error. Is there something that can fix it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1438003
[20:52] <fj_> when i try to start a dsl connection this error pops up
[20:53] <YokoBR> daftykins: but what about acl, usr_xattr?
[20:54] <YokoBR> i need those parameters when i mannually mount it
[20:54] <fj_> i suppose i should wait for the fix
[20:54] <Ben64> YokoBR: how do you "need" them
[20:54] <daftykins> YokoBR: i 100% doubt it
[20:55] <YokoBR> Ben64: Because i have shared folders, it's a file server
[20:55] <daftykins> YokoBR: can you just give what i suggested a go, and start from there?
[20:55] <daftykins> YokoBR: edit fstab then run "sudo mount -a" to confirm it mounts. ensure the same partition isn't already mounted elsewhere
[21:02] <YokoBR> Thanks, daftykins and Ben64 , that did the trick :D
[21:06] <daftykins> excellent
[21:09] <mgmuscari> hey - i'm trying to set up ubuntu on a laptop i just got - MSI GS60. this machine has two 128GB SSD's in RAID 0 configuration using Intel's hardware RAID
[21:09] <tortal> in byobu, what is that number before the prompt ? sometimes there, sometimes not.. orangy-red. e.g. " 1 user@comp:~ " ? Another thing. When connecting with ssh - i enter the same tty that byobu is running in. can i change that behavior ?
[21:10] <mgmuscari> when i try to set up partitions for linux and continue the installation, i get an error window, titled "??? ???", with the message "??? ???"
[21:10] <mgmuscari> … super not helpful. thoughts?
[21:11] <daftykins> mgmuscari: first up, it is not hardware RAID - that is fakeRAID
[21:11] <daftykins> and you won't be able to install to that without having mdadm installed in the live session prior most likely
[21:11] <daftykins> !fakraid
[21:11] <daftykins> oops
[21:11] <daftykins> !fakeraid
[21:12] <mgmuscari> daftykins: so you're saying that intel RST isn't hardware raid?
[21:13] <mgmuscari> ugh firmware raid
[21:13] <mgmuscari> wat
[21:14] <daftykins> mgmuscari: correct
[21:14] <daftykins> 100% factual
[21:15] <mgmuscari> well it doesn't look like the partition manager broke my windows installation
[21:15] <mgmuscari> so that's good
[21:15] <mgmuscari> so next step is install mdadm before i try to run the ubuntu installer
[21:15] <mgmuscari> thx
[21:15] <daftykins> mgmuscari: well, life would be a lot easier if you resized Windows from Windows, too
[21:15] <daftykins> unless you've already done that
[21:16] <mgmuscari> daftykins: yes, i already shrunk the volume
[21:16] <mgmuscari> as usual this thing is gunked up with various restore partitions that i'm just gonna leave in place
[21:17] <daftykins> you could use the Windows utility to back them up then just nuke them
[21:17] <mgmuscari> eh, i'll get around to it. i don't have any external drives on hand right now
[21:18] <daftykins> but you might need that backup in a few minutes ;)
[21:19] <mgmuscari> not gonna wipe the recovery partitions
[21:19] <mgmuscari> so here's a question:
[21:19] <mgmuscari> this is a UEFI system
[21:19] <mgmuscari> where should i install the bootloader to?
[21:19] <mgmuscari> i don't want to put it in the MBR of the raid 0 array that has windows on it
[21:19] <mgmuscari> there's a second 1TB platter drive
[21:19] <mgmuscari> figured i'd stick it there
[21:20] <daftykins> you did boot in EFI mode yes?
[21:20] <mgmuscari> yes, ubuntu was booted in EFI mode
[21:20] <daftykins> isn't it a win 8 machine?
[21:20] <mgmuscari> from USB
[21:20] <mgmuscari> it is
[21:20] <daftykins> then it doesn't boot from an MBR
[21:21] <daftykins> the laptops EFI boots from the FAT32 partition
[21:21] <daftykins> the installer should detect that and mount it as /boot/efi or some such
[21:21] <mgmuscari> i see the volume but it's not mounted
[21:22] <daftykins> is this the manual partitioner stage now?
[21:22] <mgmuscari> yes
[21:22] <daftykins> ok well then yeah it won't be, you'll have to do it yourself :)
[21:22] <mgmuscari> so i want to mount the windows efi partition at /boot/efi?
[21:22] <daftykins> !efi
[21:22] <daftykins> i think you want to read this
[21:23] <mgmuscari> i've done this all before with arch linux, i just don't understand how to make the ubuntu install wizard do what i want
[21:23] <daftykins> what's so hard?
[21:23] <mgmuscari> i'm done with arch because the community sucks
[21:23] <daftykins> make your /, swap and mount the partition as i suggested and as my above link points out
[21:24] <mgmuscari> ah
[21:24] <daftykins> oh the page claims you don't need to mount it, it thinks the installer will do it auto
[21:25] <mgmuscari> yeah doesn't seem to be detecting it, tho it shows as an EFI type in the list of devices
[21:25] <daftykins> what do you define as detection?
[21:25] <daftykins> it likely won't show you at this stage
[21:25] <mgmuscari> well if i click "change" on that partition, it shows "use as EFI boot partition"
[21:25] <daftykins> because the installer has to mount it beneath the target - and you don't have a target yet.
[21:25] <mgmuscari> doesn't give me the option to give it a mount point
[21:26] <mgmuscari> i suppose i don't need a separate /boot partition
[21:26] <daftykins> nope leave it as root
[21:26] <mgmuscari> i used to do that in case i ever hosed /
[21:26] <mgmuscari> i prefered the BIOS days. things were easier
[21:27] <daftykins> none of this is a hassle
[21:27] <daftykins> only your silly laptop RAIDing SSDs for nothing other than bragging rights is :)
[21:27] <mgmuscari> hey, it was $700 cheaper than a MBP :p
[21:28] <daftykins> i sure as hell would not be saying buy a mac
[21:28] <function9x> talking about bios, I got a laptop with UEFI. If I have windows 7 installed the time in the uefi works well. But If i install linux, the time stops. any ideas?
[21:28] <Borealix> why does everyone hate apple products?
[21:28] <mgmuscari> i think what's throwing me off here is that i still have to choose a device for boot loader installation
[21:28] <daftykins> Borealix: not accurate and not on topic :)
[21:29] <mgmuscari> which makes me think it wants to install grub into an mbr
[21:29] <daftykins> mgmuscari: just let it do it, it won't be a problem
[21:29] <mgmuscari> when i boot from the usb stick it says UEFI: blah blah
[21:29] <function9x> Borealix: I don't hate apple
[21:29] <mgmuscari> well, i'll choose a device that isn't the raided ssd's then
[21:29] <daftykins> what? what other device do you have? :P
[21:30] <mgmuscari> i got this stupid little popup again that says "??? ???"
[21:30] <mgmuscari> but i seem to be able to continue the installation...
[21:30] <mgmuscari> there's a 1TB platter drive in it too
[21:31] <mgmuscari> oh, no, the dialog is blocking the installer window from being clicked on
[21:31] <mgmuscari> and now i can't dismiss the dialog
[21:32] <function9x> mgmuscari: pc/laptop?
[21:32] <mgmuscari> pc laptop - MSI GS60
[21:33] <function9x> mgmuscari: have you disabled the secure boot in the bios?
[21:33] <mgmuscari> yeah
[21:33] <function9x> hmmm
[21:33] <Jordan_U> mgmuscari: Did you do an integrity check on your install media?
[21:34] <grend> daftykins: now I copied files I wanted up to date  one via test disk
[21:34] <grend> :)
[21:34] <grend> daftykins: what was that command again to reformat hd?
[21:34] <grend> :)
[21:34] <daftykins> grend: i don't remember your situation
[21:34] <mgmuscari> i'll check the media...
[21:34] <grend> oki
[21:35] <grend> there was a disk with 1 bad sector
[21:35] <mgmuscari> should be ok, created it from a verified image
[21:35] <daftykins> oh yeah the screwed disk
[21:35] <grend> it wont boot yet
[21:35] <grend> the wonderful disk
[21:35] <grend> :)
[21:35] <daftykins> grend: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=2M
[21:35] <grend> cool
[21:35] <daftykins> where sdX is this disk
[21:35] <daftykins> i.e. don't literally type that
[21:35] <grend> I understand
[21:35] <grend> this disk hmm
[21:36] <daftykins> ?
[21:36] <grend> there is LVM
[21:36] <function9x> mgmuscari: fast boot disabled aswell?
[21:36] <daftykins> not after the above command there won't be
[21:36] <grend> great
[21:36] <grend> so  instead of sdX what do I type? what does this disk means? linux path to it?
[21:36] <mgmuscari> function9x: yup
[21:36] <grend> there is /dev/lubuntu-vg/root
[21:37] <daftykins> grend: run 'sudo parted -l' and confirm which it is
[21:37] <daftykins> maybe sda, maybe sdb
[21:37] <function9x> hmm
[21:37] <xangua> ! Info xfce4
[21:38] <daftykins> xangua: no leading space :>
[21:38] <grend> Model: ATA HITACHI HTS72201 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 100GB
[21:38] <grend> so sda
[21:39] <daftykins> if that's the one, sure
[21:39] <grend> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M then?
[21:39] <daftykins> wow you really want it step by step eh?
[21:40] <grend> lol yes
[21:40] <daftykins> from a live session yes
[21:40] <grend> ty
[21:40] <daftykins> and consider applying your own brain :)
[21:40] <daftykins> i had already handed you the answer :)
[21:40] <grend> better be sure sure
[21:40] <grend> :)
[21:41] <daftykins> ugh
[21:41] <daftykins> then you can repaste the SMART info afterwards
[21:41] <mgmuscari> ok, i didn't do anything different
[21:41] <mgmuscari> but now it seems to be working
[21:42] <daftykins> what after another boot?
[21:42] <mgmuscari> yeah
[21:42] <mgmuscari> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:42] <daftykins> maybe your media is funky as suggested
[21:42] <demetris> hello
[21:42] <mgmuscari> maybe it was loose
[21:42] <demetris> am on vivid and reboot doesnt work
[21:42] <demetris> even from terminal
[21:43] <demetris> i have to hold power to shutdown laptop
[21:44] <mgmuscari> oooh, installer crashed
[21:44] <mgmuscari> maybe my usb stick is bad
[21:44] <daftykins> demetris: upgrade or clean install?
[21:44] <daftykins> mgmuscari: yeah time to remake that drive. what OS + program did you use?
[21:44] <demetris> clean install
[21:45] <demetris> 14.04 was ok
[21:45] <mgmuscari> win8… mounted the image and copied all the files over to a fresh fat32 partition on it
[21:45] <demetris> i suspect systemd issue
[21:45] <Lunario> so apparently i have exactly this bug since i changed my themes and appearance of ubuntu yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1448762
[21:45] <daftykins> mgmuscari: yeah no, MD5 your download and use universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com
[21:46] <mgmuscari> uh
[21:46] <Lunario> do you have any suggestion on what to do? as its really annoying... ubuntu crashes every half an hour or so
[21:46] <mgmuscari> daftykins: it seems to have installed the base system ok
[21:46] <demetris> check your rams
[21:46] <Bashing-om> demetris: Maybe: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ will point to the booting solutiion ?
[21:46] <daftykins> mgmuscari: doubt it
[21:46] <mgmuscari> booted all the way to the desktop
[21:47] <function9x> mgmuscari: usb is formatted on fat 32?
[21:47] <daftykins> ah well a dist-upgrade would be handy
[21:47] <mgmuscari> err, compiz just crashed
[21:47] <mgmuscari> yeah....
[21:47] <daftykins> :)
[21:47] <demetris> Bashing-om, interesting
[21:47] <demetris> thanks
[21:47] <demetris> let me test these
[21:48] <function9x> brb
[21:49] <Jordan_U> mgmuscari: There is a self test option in the boot menu for Ubuntu's installer. You should use that to be completely sure that the data was written to, and is being read from, your USB drive correctly.
[21:49] <mgmuscari> Jordan_U: did that, it checked out ok
[21:49] <mgmuscari> apt works
[21:49] <Jordan_U> mgmuscari: Try memtest to see if your RAM is OK.
[21:49] <mgmuscari> wondering if an apt-get dist-upgrade and/or apt-get upgrade will fix me up
[21:50] <mgmuscari> Jordan_U: guess i could do that. brand new machine.
[21:54] <daftykins> mgmuscari: use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade
[22:01] <hed> How mount btrfs partition from live cd, i have turn on root
[22:01] <demetris> back
[22:01] <demetris> sync && poweroff -f works
[22:01] <reisio> hed: 'mount'
[22:01] <demetris> sync && reboot -f dont
[22:01] <martinking> SIEG HEIL, HEIL HITLER, 8814, KILL ALL THE FUCKING GYPSIES, JEWS and NIGGERS ON THE WORLD
[22:01] <demetris> now what?
[22:02] <martinking>  SIEG HEIL, HEIL HITLER, 8814, KILL ALL THE FUCKING GYPSIES, JEWS and NIGGERS ON THE WORLD
[22:02] <martinking> SIEG HEIL, HEIL HITLER, 8814, KILL ALL THE FUCKING GYPSIES, JEWS and NIGGERS ON THE WORLD
[22:02] <martinking> SIEG HEIL, HEIL HITLER, 8814, KILL ALL THE FUCKING GYPSIES, JEWS and NIGGERS ON THE WORLD
[22:02] <hed> Hitler kaput heh troll
[22:03] <demetris> sync && reboot -f freeze system on rebooting message
[22:03] <demetris> systemd issue ?
[22:03] <hed> How mount btrfs partition in liveCD Ubuntu
[22:04] <hed> mount -t btrfs -o recovery /dev/sda1 /mnt
[22:12] <xubuntu42w> hi, why does xubuntu not support mtp by default?
[22:12] <daftykins> no idea.
[22:13] <lrs> Hey
[22:14] <lrs> I tried switching from nividia drivers to noveuau
[22:14] <daftykins> ok
[22:14] <lrs> Because steam didnt seam to work with my optirun driver
[22:14] <lrs> And now its broken
[22:14] <lrs> If I dont go into alternative options and pick a previous kernel or whatever it is
[22:14] <daftykins> were you using bumblebee or nvidia-prime?
[22:14] <lrs> It just says
[22:14] <lrs> "kernel panic" blabla initramfs"
[22:14] <lrs> daftykins, bumblee i think
[22:15] <lrs> i write optirun
[22:15] <lrs> So i think its bumblebee
[22:15] <daftykins> ok so purge all bumblebee* and nvidia*
[22:15] <lrs> sudo apt-get purge ?
[22:15] <daftykins> yes
[22:16] <ukinami> boa tarde sou novo aqui e no uso de linux será que alguem me poderia ajudar em duas coisas ? uma coisa eu já andei a presquisar no google por repositorios mas al fazer o apt-get update aparece sempre erros e quase não tem nada e quando tento ir ao email e quero imprimir so o conteudo do email não consigo emprime a pagina toda email e tudo
[22:17] <genii> !pt | ukinami
[22:17] <lrs> daftykins, It says
[22:17] <ukinami> thanks
[22:18] <lrs> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/LWCYZX7A
[22:18] <xubuntu42w> I have permission problems with mtp support on ubuntu. I need help.
[22:18] <daftykins> lrs: totally unrelated problem but ok, "ls /boot" and pastebin it please
[22:19] <lrs> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/g6Y9RWcs
[22:20] <daftykins> lrs: sudo dpkg -r linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[22:20] <daftykins> lrs: repeat the same command for 35, 36 and 37
[22:20] <daftykins> then run sudo apt-get -f install
[22:20] <lrs> dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic:
[22:21] <taydon> hello
[22:21] <daftykins> lrs: "dpkg -l | grep linux-image-3.13.0-24" should refer to an 'extra' package?
[22:21] <daftykins> taydon: welcome back
[22:22] <taydon> thank you @daftykins
[22:22] <lrs>  linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic
[22:22] <taydon> how have you been
[22:22] <daftykins> not bad ty but this channel is support only and not chat (:
[22:22] <taydon> i understand
[22:22] <daftykins> lrs: hrmm "dpkg -l | grep linux-" should list the 'extra' named one
[22:23] <daftykins> lrs: ah sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic
[22:23] <lrs> http://pastebin.com/4viD4HJB
[22:23] <daftykins> then do 35, 36 and 37 - then do it as my initial command above without extra
[22:24] <lrs> sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.13.0-35-generic
[22:24] <lrs> ?
[22:24] <daftykins> after doing -24- yes
[22:24] <lrs> Ok done and now
[22:24] <lrs> sudo apt-get -f install
[22:24] <lrs> ?
[22:25] <daftykins> depends if you got rid of 4 packages with -extra- in
[22:25] <daftykins> and then 4 without
[22:25] <daftykins> as i have been saying :)
[22:25] <lrs> Oh ok without
[22:26] <lrs> Alright done
[22:26] <lrs> So now its -f install?
[22:26] <daftykins> yip
[22:27] <daftykins> which should reattempt and finish installing the -52
[22:27] <lrs> Yeah! looks like it did
[22:27] <lrs> So what do i do now?
[22:28] <daftykins> just to be sure, re-run sudo apt-get purge bumblbee*
[22:28] <daftykins> sorry typo
[22:28] <lrs> I want to get the nvidia drivers back btw. the nouvea seems to just destroy everything
[22:28] <daftykins> just to be sure, re-run sudo apt-get purge bumblebee*
[22:28] <daftykins> yeah well to start with just be sure bumblebee is gone :)
[22:28] <lrs> Yeah it seems to be gone
[22:29] <lrs> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/hVF7Xb8w I got this when purging bumblee
[22:29] <lrs> Is it something to worry about?
[22:29] <daftykins> lrs: nope it's fine, just already done. you've got some junk there to clean up, "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[22:30] <daftykins> also run sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[22:30] <daftykins> now reboot and see that it boots into the -52 kernel ok, (uname -r after boot)
[22:30] <grend> :)
[22:30] <lrs> Alright brb
[22:32] <pEYEd> what's the fix for loading the 'Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)'?  no kernel driver in lspci -k
[22:32] <daftykins> !realtek
[22:34] <lrs> Thanks! Seems to work
[22:34] <daftykins> lrs: cool, so that should still be on nouveau right?
[22:34] <lrs> How do I get the drivers to work though?
[22:34] <lrs> Yeah
[22:34] <daftykins> so now sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime
[22:34] <daftykins> that should set you up with the newer tech that should handle auto switching better i think
[22:35] <grend> daftykins: my awesome disk got nearly 30% bad data here and 70% good
[22:35] <grend> I am yet to format it however checking testdisk recovery stats
[22:36] <daftykins> how did you come up with these numbers?
[22:36] <grend> Copying, please wait... 380971 ok, 85856 failed
[22:36] <rangemonger> are the intel drivers that come with 15.04 the "best" or are there some proprietary ones like with nvidia?
[22:36] <daftykins> rangemonger: built in is the best you'll get
[22:36] <daftykins> intel work with Linux to make it built in
[22:36] <rangemonger> thanks
[22:36] <rangemonger> i was under that impression, just wasnt certain
[22:37] <grend> impressions are nuts :D
[22:37] <lrs> daftykins, ALright. Do I need to install bumblebee too?
[22:37] <grend> hi mothership_
[22:37] <rangemonger> so i guess its normal for vmware to blacklist 3d support from an intel 2500 gpu then
[22:37] <daftykins> lrs: no prime is the replacement
[22:37] <lrs> Oh
[22:37] <lrs> Awesome
[22:37] <lrs> FInally
[22:37] <lrs> So how do I do if i want to run steam with optimus on?
[22:37] <daftykins> rangemonger: what? you didn't mention using a VM
[22:37] <lrs> Do I just.. run it?
[22:38] <daftykins> lrs: yeah just run it and see what happens
[22:38] <rangemonger> daftykins: when using 15.04 as a host, vmw wont do 3d
[22:38] <rangemonger> daftykins: unless you modify every vmx that uses 3d with a no blacklist option
[22:38] <pEYEd> daftykins: that doc must be 2yrs old +
[22:39] <daftykins> pEYEd: possibly
[22:39] <lrs> daftykins, Wow
[22:39] <lrs> My whole computer instantly started rendering faster after this
[22:39] <daftykins> well yeah.
[22:39] <pEYEd> daftykins: according to option #2, as of 2.8~ it works out of the box?  o.0
[22:39] <daftykins> pEYEd: *shrug*
[22:40] <daftykins> i gave you the link i didn't write it :)
[22:40] <pEYEd> daftykins:   :)
[22:40] <lrs> ANyways, thanks alot for the help!
[22:41] <lrs> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbovJbKALzA Remember this too :P
[22:41] <lrs> lol
[22:41] <rangemonger> its a classic
[22:42] <Ev0luti0n_> hi guys
[22:42] <grend> hi
[22:43] <grend> why dont u greet the girls too?
[22:43] <grend> :D
[22:43] <rangemonger> thanks for info, see yaz
[22:43] <daftykins> grend: what, you?
[22:43] <grend> daftykins: what about me? :D
[22:43] <grend> hehe
[22:44] <Ev0luti0n_> searched around on firefox options, but couldn't find any option on where to disable image loading
[22:44] <daftykins> grend: were you asking why i don't greet you?
[22:44] <daftykins> oooh you meant ev0
[22:44] <grend> yes
[22:44] <daftykins> 'guys' can be gender agnostic
[22:44] <grend> true that
[22:45] <grend> however if u say hi girls many guys would be blah :D
[22:45] <grend> anyway disk operation is nearly done
[22:45] <Ev0luti0n_> girls on IRC?
[22:45] <Ev0luti0n_> that's a myth
[22:45] <grend> dont tell u mates :P
[22:45] <daftykins> inappropriate talk peeps, please drop it and stick to support only
[22:46] <daftykins> feel free to ramble on in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:46] <Fuchs> that topic isn't terribly welcome there either, and it is fortunately mostly nowhere on this network.
[22:46] <grend> funch: did u hear what dafty said
[22:47] <grend> stop breaking da rules :D
[22:47] <daftykins> grend: please stop it.
[22:47] <grend> daftykins: so it a selective shut up them
[22:47] <grend> :)
[22:47] <grend> well at least u been honest
[22:47] <daftykins> yes stick to support chat only
[22:47] <Ev0luti0n_> folks
[22:48] <Ev0luti0n_> i'm trying to disable image loading on firefox, for data saving
[22:48] <daftykins> ok
[22:48] <grend> so do it
[22:48] <Ev0luti0n_> but found nothing on standard options
[22:48] <daftykins> grend: i've already warned you, either be helpful or don't talk
[22:48] <Ev0luti0n_> and i'm currently searching on about:config
[22:48] <Ev0luti0n_> kinda lost
[22:48] <Fuchs> Ev0luti0n_: permissions.default.image
[22:48] <Fuchs> (in about:config)
[22:48] <grend> daftykins: helpful to u?
[22:48] <Fuchs> set it to 1 to disable image loading
[22:49] <grend> oki how can I help u? :D
[22:49] <grend> with ubuntu
[22:49] <Ev0luti0n_> lemme check
[22:49] <daftykins> grend: i'm getting really tired of this - do we need to kick you?
[22:49] <grend> what do u mean?
[22:49] <grend> u request me to help u
[22:49] <daftykins> no i did not
[22:49] <grend> so what do u need ubuntu wise?
[22:49] <Ev0luti0n_>  lol... do it daftykins... troll foud
[22:49] <Ev0luti0n_> *found
[22:49] <daftykins> grend: i said be helpful to others or shut up
[22:50] <grend> daftykins: then others can decide whether what I say is helping them to use ubuntu or not
[22:51] <daftykins> nope i just did it
[22:55] <Ev0luti0n_> switched to 0, but didn't seem to have much effect
[22:56] <Fuchs> Ev0luti0n_: I told you to set it to 1, didn't I?
[22:56] <Fuchs> Ev0luti0n_: oh, actually ... on more recent versions, set it to 2 instead of 1
[22:57] <Ev0luti0n_> aha!
[22:57] <Ev0luti0n_> working like a charm now
[22:57] <Ev0luti0n_> thank you so much. I have currently, a 50mb data cap on my connection.
[22:58] <Ev0luti0n_> so gotta have some supper agressive saving, and couldn't be so to speak searching around on the web at will.
[22:58] <grend> what kind of connection is that? :)
[22:58] <Ev0luti0n_> 3g vodafone.
[22:58] <grend> uk?
[22:58] <Fuchs> Ev0luti0n_: you're welcome
[22:58] <MadHatter42> hello everyone
[22:58] <grend> hi
[22:58] <MadHatter42> i've got this ubuntu server in a small office
[22:59] <MadHatter42> that started to make a tremendous amount of traffic
[22:59] <grend> here I can get unlimited data on cell phone
[22:59] <MadHatter42> just broadcasting
[22:59] <MadHatter42> i started to check what was and its dhcp traffic in part
[22:59] <MadHatter42> but it wakes like all the link to that server
[23:00] <MadHatter42> and i lose connectivity with it
[23:00] <grend> daftykins: yes u just did however your desires are urs alone :)
[23:00] <MadHatter42> any ideas on how to troubleshoot  this issue
[23:00] <daftykins> argh
[23:01] <Fuchs> MadHatter42: if you have local access to that server, running nettop and tcpdump might be an option
[23:01] <Gr1zzly> Hey, how can I make something like VAR="file1 | echo toto" then make $> rm $VAR remove file1 and print toto?
[23:02] <daftykins> Gr1zzly: ask in #bash
[23:02] <MadHatter42> Fuchs, i get lots of these
[23:02] <MadHatter42> 01:07:23.609358 STP 802.1d, Config, Flags [none], bridge-id 8000.64:a0:e7:0b:8c:9c.8001, length 47
[23:02] <MadHatter42> 01:07:23.609361 STP 802.1d, Config, Flags [none], bridge-id 8000.64:a0:e7:0b:8c:9c.8001, length 47
[23:02] <daftykins> not relevant to OS support
[23:02] <MadHatter42> and these
[23:02] <MadHatter42> 01:07:23.609248 IP 0.0.0.0.68 > 255.255.255.255.67: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 00:26:8b:03:0e:29, length 548
[23:02] <Gr1zzly> daftykins:  k
[23:03] <Fuchs> MadHatter42: the dhcp could be normal if there are clients in that network configured to use DHCP and sending out requests
[23:03] <docmur> When I nmap my server from home I can see port 25 is open but filtered, I've gone over the iptable rules are correct so what
[23:03] <docmur>                 is there is a good chance the ISP blocked it.  Is there anyway
[23:03] <docmur>                 I can check that or anything I can do to unfilter the port?
[23:03] <MadHatter42> Fuchs, i'm using nload and i see lots of band
[23:05] <MadHatter42> any idea whats this
[23:05] <MadHatter42> May 16 01:10:41 gateway rsyslogd-2177: imuxsock begins to drop messages from pid 1311 due to rate-limiting
[23:05] <MadHatter42> ?
[23:11] <moino> docmur: some ISP blocks port 25, check google with ISPName open port 25
[23:13] <daftykins> docmur: if you nmap from LAN to LAN it won't read filtered on the server if there's a daemon sat listening
[23:26] <duckblaster1> Anyone able to help with a problem installing ubuntu studio on windows 10 hyper-v? it's hung for 9 hours so far after hitting continue on this screen http://imgur.com/SDtOSc9 system monitor shows http://imgur.com/IHXZl2H
[23:26] <duckblaster> seems to be something wrong with modprobe btrfs
[23:27] <daftykins> kill that?
[23:27] <duckblaster> tried about 5 times
[23:27] <daftykins> as root with kill -9 ?
[23:27] <duckblaster> doesn't respond
[23:28] <duckblaster> sudo kill -9 3750?
[23:28] <duckblaster> worked this time
[23:28] <duckblaster> didn't the other time i tried
[23:29] <duckblaster> now it's stuck on modprobe jfs, kill -9 didn't do anything
[23:31] <MrElendig> duckblaster: sounds more like there is a problem with your vm
[23:32] <duckblaster> any idea what?
[23:32] <MrElendig> try installing to some real hardware to test
[23:32] <duckblaster> only go one machine
[23:32] <MrElendig> don't you have a usb stick?
[23:32] <duckblaster> 1gb
[23:32] <daftykins> your download might be bad
[23:33] <duckblaster> shouldn't torrent check for dab data
[23:33] <daftykins> yes, but i couldn't read your mind to tell you torrented it :)
[23:34] <duckblaster> yeah, true
[23:34] <daftykins> tbh you're using Hyper-V which has many issues already, added to the fact of a pre-release OS
[23:34] <duckblaster> it could be a motherd problem too
[23:34] <duckblaster> motherboard
[23:34] <daftykins> with a VM? what
[23:34] <duckblaster> has fried 2 sticks of ram
[23:35] <duckblaster> and never been able to install any vm recently
[23:35] <duckblaster> managed ages ago, but never with hyper-v, or virtualbox
[23:36] <duckblaster> no, that was before I upgraded to new motherboard, ram, cpu, gfx card
[23:48] <Smokie> hey guys, i upgraded my ubuntu server from 12.04 to 14.04 and for some reason Apache wont start and its giving me this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11156020/
[23:49] <Smokie> can someone help me out by any chance?
[23:49] <daftykins> well you can fix the config line error first can't you
[23:50] <daftykins> there's a big change in the apache version between those editions, so your configs aren't compatible
[23:50] <daftykins> keep a backup of apache2.conf then check what line 55 is
[23:50] <wafflejock> Smokie, search for Lockfile on this page http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/upgrading.html
[23:51] <wafflejock> Smokie, it's been replaced by Mutex but you'll have to see the documentation and your current config to see how to update
[23:51] <wafflejock> Smokie, for the module warning you may need to install a package with that module or just enable it using sudo a2enmod nameofmodule
[23:52] <daftykins> sounds like a plan!
[23:56] <Smokie> i removed the module that was giving issues
[23:56] <Smokie> now its just complaining about the Lockfile
[23:57] <daftykins> all it wanted was you to enable another :P
[23:59] <Smokie> i dont know which one, so i just want to run apache firs then i can check what modules and so on needs to be reenabled