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| valorie | oh, why wasn't I set away? grrrr | 04:07 |
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| valorie | Etriaph: thank you for your attention to detail | 04:07 |
| Etriaph | valorie: I think promoting starts at ensuring that all of the mediums we can promote on are being used to the best of their ability. | 04:40 |
| valorie | I very much agree | 04:40 |
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| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 11:03 |
| KDDA | hi BluesKaj | 11:14 |
| KDDA | Riddell: finally logged into ec2-54-159-117-153.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 11:15 |
| KDDA | what is that box for? | 11:15 |
| BluesKaj | hi KDDA | 11:16 |
| soee_ | KDDA: i think its a fresh enironment to build packages | 11:18 |
| KDDA | they arent built on my local machine? | 11:18 |
| soee_ | i think they can be, but than you have a lot of other packages that mght have negative influnace on builds. so when having fresh and clean environtment you are sure nothing interrupt it | 11:19 |
| sgclark | we dont typically use the amazon server to package, he uses it to train. They cost money.. | 11:23 |
| sgclark | it is best practice to use chroot / pbuilder to get clean environment for packaging | 11:24 |
| KDDA | I see | 11:25 |
| soee_ | yofel: ping | 12:51 |
| soee_ | guys please confirm if you can: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347795 | 13:00 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 347795 in notifier "Notifications icon stays active after all updates were installed" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 13:00 |
| soee_ | iv added also video to demonstrate this behaviour | 13:00 |
| sgclark | confirming | 13:00 |
| soee_ | thank you | 13:01 |
| soee_ | sgclark: can you test one more thing? | 13:07 |
| soee_ | this one: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344867 | 13:07 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 344867 in kcm_sddm "Setting custom background image in kcm_sddm does not work" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 13:07 |
| KDDA | does anyone know how to lock the login to one screen? | 13:22 |
| sgclark | soee: confirming | 13:31 |
| soee | thank you | 13:33 |
| soee | sgclark: 15.04.1 are building for Willy ? | 14:07 |
| sgclark | yeah | 14:08 |
| sgclark | stuck on ktp though | 14:09 |
| soee | sgclark: each time i see this packaging process we have i wonder why there are always building problems | 14:11 |
| sgclark | the wonderful world of packaging :p | 14:11 |
| soee | for example if there are app 15.04 ok - its fresh might be problematic, but bugfixes version in myopinion should be easy to package | 14:11 |
| soee | yes and i can't undersnatd this :) | 14:12 |
| sgclark | well that was my thought, this should be easy! just a point release! | 14:12 |
| soee | maybe because im a webdeveloepr and here upgrade process in some apps, frameworks etc. is much easier | 14:12 |
| sgclark | this error I am getting is wierd though.. does not happen in CI, and I am baffeled | 14:13 |
| soee | but still why this errors shows up :) | 14:13 |
| soee | *error | 14:13 |
| sgclark | if I knew the answer I would have it fixed.. | 14:14 |
| soee | such packaging shudl be -> ad dpackages to build, done, they are ready :) | 14:14 |
| sgclark | well no, there are changes that have to be made when things change | 14:15 |
| soee | the most common problems are because of developers fault o ubutnu/debian packages need some extra stuff to be done around them ? | 14:15 |
| sgclark | well I would not say fault.. when developers change things to say fix a bug, then the package can change and it needs to be changed to accomodate those changes. | 14:18 |
| soee | ok but what problems it can cause, such change in package ? | 14:19 |
| soee | it can depend on something taht is not available in current release ? | 14:19 |
| sgclark | that can and has happened yes | 14:19 |
| sgclark | or a new feature will create new files that are not yet in the install file | 14:20 |
| sgclark | or in my case with ktp the build did not create the files at all... | 14:20 |
| sgclark | removing from install will surely break things so I need to sort out why the build did not build that component | 14:21 |
| sgclark | despite finding the needed libraries.. | 14:21 |
| debfx | sgclark: I've replied on the list | 14:23 |
| sgclark | ty | 14:23 |
| sgclark | ah ha | 14:23 |
| soee | sgclark: so install file is not created by developer ? | 14:24 |
| sgclark | no that is packaging | 14:24 |
| sgclark | and something like the wrong version of another package can cause the probelm and did | 14:24 |
| soee | hmm for me this is a bit strange | 14:26 |
| soee | this all shoudl be somehow automated | 14:26 |
| sgclark | we are getting much closer to full automation... it used to be a ton harder to package all these. Obviously we have some kinks :) | 14:30 |
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| sgclark | hmm anyone using wily yet? applications are ready to test, but I suspect there are not many using wily haha | 16:06 |
| soee_ | sgclark: i think Bluskay does | 16:23 |
| mparillo | sgclark: I just dual-booted with wiley this morning | 16:35 |
| sgclark | cool, if your feeling adventurous the applications in the topic need testing. | 16:37 |
| mparillo | kinfocenter says I am still at Plasma 5.2.2 (I used the backports PPA) in Vivid to get to 5.3 on real hardware, but 5.3 did not work at all in a VMware VM. | 16:37 |
| mparillo | sgclark: Dolphin, rekonq, and konsole all worked so far. | 16:38 |
| sgclark | particularily kdenlive and ktp* I think were the problem children of last release | 16:39 |
| mparillo | Okular seems to work. | 16:40 |
| mparillo | Those are the KDE apps I tend to use the most. KTP is a chat client? | 16:42 |
| mparillo | Firing up KTP. Anybody want to chat? | 16:58 |
| mparillo | Might be user error on my part, but I have accounts on GTalk (now hangouts) and Yahoo Messenger. I have recently used the GTalk client successfully in Google Chrome, but it has been some years on YIM. In KTp, neither shows me as online. | 17:08 |
| sgclark | don't use yahoo, but I recall extra steps if you use 2 way auth with google | 17:23 |
| mparillo | sgclark: No, I do not use two way auth. | 17:27 |
| sgclark | yeah I am having issues with google too... hmm | 17:27 |
| sgclark | ahh my problem was my firewall | 17:29 |
| mparillo | I do not run a firewall. | 17:32 |
| mparillo | I can install chrome and test my GChat from there. | 17:32 |
| mparillo | Yes, I am on-line when looking at the chat sidebar on Google Chrome, but not in KTp | 17:36 |
| sgclark | and you created the account and signed into google? also the top bar you need to pull down and select available | 17:38 |
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| mparillo | That is it. I needed to set to available. YIM shows me available. I am having trouble authenticating to GChat. | 17:43 |
| mparillo | So YIM and AOL IM work for me (at least I show as available). GTalk and MSN Messaging do not. | 17:49 |
| mparillo | I do not thing I have been available on YIM or AOL IM in years. | 17:53 |
| mparillo | s/thing/think/ | 17:54 |
| kubotu | mparillo meant: "I do not think I have been available on YIM or AOL IM in years." | 17:54 |
| vip | hello there | 17:57 |
| soee_ | hiho | 17:58 |
| vip | anyone experienced unicode problems under vivid? | 17:58 |
| mparillo | Google hates KTp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11170622/ | 18:12 |
| mparillo | Google seems to be claiming that KTp uses weaker security? | 18:14 |
| KDDA | sgclark: ping | 18:24 |
| sgclark | KDDA: pong | 19:11 |
| sgclark | mparillo: woah that is wierd. I have never seen that. | 19:11 |
| KDDA | is there problem with kdepim with new apps? | 19:11 |
| sgclark | could you be more specific? | 19:12 |
| sgclark | did it crash? | 19:13 |
| sgclark | if you mean the red on that list, it is because it has a different version than the rest of the apps. | 19:14 |
| sgclark | they have some time yet before they will be kf5 ready. | 19:14 |
| KDDA | ah | 19:17 |
| KDDA | Im on wily, but dont want to mess up kontact | 19:18 |
| sgclark | I wish I could guarentee things will be splendid but pim is one that likes to break, and as such needs testing lol. No worries, I will recruit more testers after the weekend. | 19:19 |
| sgclark | I now have some real life to attend to, have a great weekend all. | 19:20 |
| gorgonzola | hello. me again witht he same question: What is the status of bluetooth in vivid? I understand that bluez is under transition, and bluedevil is being kept back. Does this mean there is no wasy way to get bluetooth working in plasma 5 for now? | 19:46 |
| gorgonzola | wasy=easy | 19:46 |
| Etriaph | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/bluez | 19:55 |
| * Etriaph is waiting for dolphin 15.04.1 to trickle down. | 19:56 | |
| gorgonzola | Etriaph: I don't understand | 20:22 |
| valorie | gorgonzola: we're waiting on the Ubuntu folks who have blackballed the new bluez for now | 20:46 |
| valorie | because of the phone stuff or something | 20:47 |
| valorie | "folks" should have been devels | 20:47 |
| gorgonzola | valorie: thanks! so, just to understand on my end... bluez4 won't work with plasma 5, and we are waiting on bluez5 from ubuntu? | 20:52 |
| KDDA | valorie: are you on wily? | 20:54 |
| valorie | no, just vivid | 20:54 |
| valorie | gorgonzola: I believe that is right | 20:54 |
| valorie | unfortunately | 20:54 |
| valorie | I'm not sure what we can do on our end beyond commenting on the launchpad bug | 20:55 |
| gorgonzola | valorie would installing bluez5 locally help, or is that a recipe for disaster? | 20:55 |
| gorgonzola | valorie: never mind, I see that bluez5 is actually installed.. the problem is with libical1a etc. Thanks for the clarification | 21:15 |
| valorie | I guess it could be built from sources | 21:16 |
| valorie | and usually that doesn't cause disaster, but may cause more work as you have to also build this new thing, that new thing | 21:16 |
| valorie | etc. | 21:16 |
| valorie | and -dev versions of packages | 21:17 |
| * valorie builds amarok and has built phonon and phonon backend | 21:17 | |
| valorie | s | 21:17 |
| valorie | no big deal realy | 21:17 |
| gorgonzola | valorie: yeah, i went that route with solid trying to get upnp to work... But in any case, as I said above, the problem seems to be elsewhere... not in bluez | 21:23 |
| * valorie is out for the next 24 hours or so | 21:25 | |
| Etriaph | gorgonzola: I gave you the link because an update will end up there. | 21:40 |
| Etriaph | gorgonzola: That's how I track packages to determine when changes are coming down the pipe for me. | 21:40 |
| gorgonzola | Etriaph: Ah, ok. Thanks. So is there any point in using this ppa? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions | 21:42 |
| Etriaph | gorgonzola: You are always free to try what's available and rollback if it doesn't work for you. | 21:42 |
| Etriaph | gorgonzola: Just keep ppa-purge handy at all times :D | 21:43 |
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