=== aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [04:07] oh, why wasn't I set away? grrrr [04:07] Etriaph: thank you for your attention to detail [04:40] valorie: I think promoting starts at ensuring that all of the mediums we can promote on are being used to the best of their ability. [04:40] I very much agree === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose [11:03] Hey folks [11:14] hi BluesKaj [11:15] Riddell: finally logged into ec2-54-159-117-153.compute-1.amazonaws.com [11:15] what is that box for? [11:16] hi KDDA [11:18] KDDA: i think its a fresh enironment to build packages [11:18] they arent built on my local machine? [11:19] i think they can be, but than you have a lot of other packages that mght have negative influnace on builds. so when having fresh and clean environtment you are sure nothing interrupt it [11:23] we dont typically use the amazon server to package, he uses it to train. They cost money.. [11:24] it is best practice to use chroot / pbuilder to get clean environment for packaging [11:25] I see [12:51] yofel: ping [13:00] guys please confirm if you can: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347795 [13:00] KDE bug 347795 in notifier "Notifications icon stays active after all updates were installed" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [13:00] iv added also video to demonstrate this behaviour [13:00] confirming [13:01] thank you [13:07] sgclark: can you test one more thing? [13:07] this one: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344867 [13:07] KDE bug 344867 in kcm_sddm "Setting custom background image in kcm_sddm does not work" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [13:22] does anyone know how to lock the login to one screen? [13:31] soee: confirming [13:33] thank you [14:07] sgclark: 15.04.1 are building for Willy ? [14:08] yeah [14:09] stuck on ktp though [14:11] sgclark: each time i see this packaging process we have i wonder why there are always building problems [14:11] the wonderful world of packaging :p [14:11] for example if there are app 15.04 ok - its fresh might be problematic, but bugfixes version in myopinion should be easy to package [14:12] yes and i can't undersnatd this :) [14:12] well that was my thought, this should be easy! just a point release! [14:12] maybe because im a webdeveloepr and here upgrade process in some apps, frameworks etc. is much easier [14:13] this error I am getting is wierd though.. does not happen in CI, and I am baffeled [14:13] but still why this errors shows up :) [14:13] *error [14:14] if I knew the answer I would have it fixed.. [14:14] such packaging shudl be -> ad dpackages to build, done, they are ready :) [14:15] well no, there are changes that have to be made when things change [14:15] the most common problems are because of developers fault o ubutnu/debian packages need some extra stuff to be done around them ? [14:18] well I would not say fault.. when developers change things to say fix a bug, then the package can change and it needs to be changed to accomodate those changes. [14:19] ok but what problems it can cause, such change in package ? [14:19] it can depend on something taht is not available in current release ? [14:19] that can and has happened yes [14:20] or a new feature will create new files that are not yet in the install file [14:20] or in my case with ktp the build did not create the files at all... [14:21] removing from install will surely break things so I need to sort out why the build did not build that component [14:21] despite finding the needed libraries.. [14:23] sgclark: I've replied on the list [14:23] ty [14:23] ah ha [14:24] sgclark: so install file is not created by developer ? [14:24] no that is packaging [14:24] and something like the wrong version of another package can cause the probelm and did [14:26] hmm for me this is a bit strange [14:26] this all shoudl be somehow automated [14:30] we are getting much closer to full automation... it used to be a ton harder to package all these. Obviously we have some kinks :) === PaulW2U_ is now known as PaulW2U [16:06] hmm anyone using wily yet? applications are ready to test, but I suspect there are not many using wily haha [16:23] sgclark: i think Bluskay does [16:35] sgclark: I just dual-booted with wiley this morning [16:37] cool, if your feeling adventurous the applications in the topic need testing. [16:37] kinfocenter says I am still at Plasma 5.2.2 (I used the backports PPA) in Vivid to get to 5.3 on real hardware, but 5.3 did not work at all in a VMware VM. [16:38] sgclark: Dolphin, rekonq, and konsole all worked so far. [16:39] particularily kdenlive and ktp* I think were the problem children of last release [16:40] Okular seems to work. [16:42] Those are the KDE apps I tend to use the most. KTP is a chat client? [16:58] Firing up KTP. Anybody want to chat? [17:08] Might be user error on my part, but I have accounts on GTalk (now hangouts) and Yahoo Messenger. I have recently used the GTalk client successfully in Google Chrome, but it has been some years on YIM. In KTp, neither shows me as online. [17:23] don't use yahoo, but I recall extra steps if you use 2 way auth with google [17:27] sgclark: No, I do not use two way auth. [17:27] yeah I am having issues with google too... hmm [17:29] ahh my problem was my firewall [17:32] I do not run a firewall. [17:32] I can install chrome and test my GChat from there. [17:36] Yes, I am on-line when looking at the chat sidebar on Google Chrome, but not in KTp [17:38] and you created the account and signed into google? also the top bar you need to pull down and select available === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [17:43] That is it. I needed to set to available. YIM shows me available. I am having trouble authenticating to GChat. [17:49] So YIM and AOL IM work for me (at least I show as available). GTalk and MSN Messaging do not. [17:53] I do not thing I have been available on YIM or AOL IM in years. [17:54] s/thing/think/ [17:54] mparillo meant: "I do not think I have been available on YIM or AOL IM in years." [17:57] hello there [17:58] hiho [17:58] anyone experienced unicode problems under vivid? [18:12] Google hates KTp: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11170622/ [18:14] Google seems to be claiming that KTp uses weaker security? [18:24] sgclark: ping [19:11] KDDA: pong [19:11] mparillo: woah that is wierd. I have never seen that. [19:11] is there problem with kdepim with new apps? [19:12] could you be more specific? [19:13] did it crash? [19:14] if you mean the red on that list, it is because it has a different version than the rest of the apps. [19:14] they have some time yet before they will be kf5 ready. [19:17] ah [19:18] Im on wily, but dont want to mess up kontact [19:19] I wish I could guarentee things will be splendid but pim is one that likes to break, and as such needs testing lol. No worries, I will recruit more testers after the weekend. [19:20] I now have some real life to attend to, have a great weekend all. [19:46] hello. me again witht he same question: What is the status of bluetooth in vivid? I understand that bluez is under transition, and bluedevil is being kept back. Does this mean there is no wasy way to get bluetooth working in plasma 5 for now? [19:46] wasy=easy [19:55] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+source/bluez [19:56] * Etriaph is waiting for dolphin 15.04.1 to trickle down. [20:22] Etriaph: I don't understand [20:46] gorgonzola: we're waiting on the Ubuntu folks who have blackballed the new bluez for now [20:47] because of the phone stuff or something [20:47] "folks" should have been devels [20:52] valorie: thanks! so, just to understand on my end... bluez4 won't work with plasma 5, and we are waiting on bluez5 from ubuntu? [20:54] valorie: are you on wily? [20:54] no, just vivid [20:54] gorgonzola: I believe that is right [20:54] unfortunately [20:55] I'm not sure what we can do on our end beyond commenting on the launchpad bug [20:55] valorie would installing bluez5 locally help, or is that a recipe for disaster? [21:15] valorie: never mind, I see that bluez5 is actually installed.. the problem is with libical1a etc. Thanks for the clarification [21:16] I guess it could be built from sources [21:16] and usually that doesn't cause disaster, but may cause more work as you have to also build this new thing, that new thing [21:16] etc. [21:17] and -dev versions of packages [21:17] * valorie builds amarok and has built phonon and phonon backend [21:17] s [21:17] no big deal realy [21:23] valorie: yeah, i went that route with solid trying to get upnp to work... But in any case, as I said above, the problem seems to be elsewhere... not in bluez [21:25] * valorie is out for the next 24 hours or so [21:40] gorgonzola: I gave you the link because an update will end up there. [21:40] gorgonzola: That's how I track packages to determine when changes are coming down the pipe for me. [21:42] Etriaph: Ah, ok. Thanks. So is there any point in using this ppa? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/transitions [21:42] gorgonzola: You are always free to try what's available and rollback if it doesn't work for you. [21:43] gorgonzola: Just keep ppa-purge handy at all times :D === tsimpson is now known as tsimpson_ === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun