bazhang | Id be very surprised if the r7 240 worked with fglrx | 00:47 |
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ModelEngine | i need to speak with an operator, can someone pls pm me? thx | 01:59 |
Unit193 | Please state the nature of your request, and someone may be with you presently. | 02:00 |
ModelEngine | I apparently seem to be pissing ppl off in the channel, but I have no idea why or how, as I seem to be following all the rules | 02:01 |
ModelEngine | http://imgur.com/jkzT6uQ http://imgur.com/u5ZaHa6 http://imgur.com/sUE8OX7 | 02:03 |
ModelEngine | those are the reason for this question. please see the replies to my questions from user: daftykins | 02:03 |
ModelEngine | as you can see from the transcript, dafty seems to be upset about something, however I have NO idea why or for what reason I am condescended | 02:05 |
ModelEngine | I thought #ubuntu is where beginners like me can feel safe to ask questions without getting snapped at. If that is not the purpose of #ubuntu, please state the purpose | 02:06 |
ModelEngine | Unit193: can you help me with this? | 02:08 |
ModelEngine | would anyone be around to help? | 02:11 |
ModelEngine | is there someone here who would be available to explain to me the policies, procedures and protocols associated with chatting in #ubuntu? | 02:19 |
ModelEngine | My mistake, I had thought that #ubuntu ops was there as a sort of moderator, but I guess not. | 02:23 |
pleia2 | ModelEngine: please be patient, someone familiar with #ubuntu will have to help you out | 02:24 |
pleia2 | !guidelines | 02:24 |
ubottu | The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines | 02:24 |
pleia2 | but you can start there if you're looking for policies and things ^^ | 02:25 |
ModelEngine | pleia2: thanks, I'm reading the EULA or w/e its called right now to find out what appropriate channel behavior is, and I will def wait for an answer, thank you! | 02:26 |
ModelEngine | while reading this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines i have found numerous examples of how not to treat a noob, as well as examples on how to be polite when asking a question. Good to know. I'm learning and want to learn more, I just need ppl who are willing to be patient with me | 02:29 |
ModelEngine | pleia2: i asked at 19:00, and it is now 19:36, it appears to be a bad time (i.e., busy, etc) would it be better if I just emailed my issue to the irc ppl? | 02:37 |
pleia2 | ModelEngine: if you can't stick around I'd suggest coming back later (there isn't really a dispute resolution email aside from the council, and you don't need their help at this point) | 02:38 |
ModelEngine | can you tell me if it is standard procedure to condescend a noob when he is asking a question? cuz if it is, obviously i joined the wrong channel | 02:39 |
ModelEngine | i feel like cuz daftykins is a reg contributer, that everyone is just gonna try to sweep this under the rug. I was always under the understanding that the ubuntu community encourages new people to join and get involved. As a new user on ubuntu, geting snapped at for asking a question doesn't make me feel very welcome or interested in joining this 'community' | 02:41 |
pleia2 | I won't speak in such generalities, the incident in question is best discussed with someone familiar with the situation | 02:42 |
ModelEngine | pleia2: ok, that's cool. i do appreciate your speakign with me tho | 02:42 |
pleia2 | you're welcome :) I hope you find what you're looking for | 02:42 |
ModelEngine | thanks :) if you the community is anythign like you, then obviously i just stumbled upon a bad apple. I hope that this is the case. | 02:43 |
ModelEngine | a bad apple with dafty, i mean | 02:43 |
daftykins | hey ModelEngine | 02:56 |
daftykins | can someone get rid of this troll? | 02:56 |
ModelEngine | hey dafty, i have proof of you violating the TOS of the IRC | 02:57 |
daftykins | no you don't :) | 02:57 |
ubottu | daftykins called the ops in #ubuntu (ModelEngine trolling and disrupting the channel) | 02:57 |
ModelEngine | well, we'll just wait for an op now won't we? | 02:59 |
daftykins | honestly you really should find better things to do with your life than create drama in IRC on a Friday night | 03:00 |
daftykins | phunyguy: so it seems ModelEngine has gotten the wrong end of the stick here and has a bit of a hard on for me now | 03:02 |
daftykins | i really don't have a clue what's going on | 03:02 |
phunyguy | ModelEngine: an op is here now. Let's talk. | 03:02 |
ModelEngine | just act stupid,dafty | 03:03 |
ModelEngine | who is the op? | 03:03 |
phunyguy | <--- | 03:03 |
phunyguy | One of them anyway. | 03:03 |
ModelEngine | cool, lets have a discusiion, shall we | 03:03 |
ModelEngine | ok, so, phunyguy is the OP, so i have something to tell you | 03:03 |
phunyguy | I am going to read backscroll in #ubuntu as well, I would just appreciate a few minutes do to that. | 03:04 |
ModelEngine | i will pastebin it, and imgur it so it doesn't flood the channel | 03:04 |
phunyguy | to do* | 03:04 |
ModelEngine | for sure | 03:04 |
ModelEngine | phunyguy: here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/8YDAaZb7 | 03:05 |
ModelEngine | phunyguy: here is the screenshots of daftykins condescending me and treating me like garbage:http://imgur.com/jkzT6uQ http://imgur.com/u5ZaHa6 http://imgur.com/sUE8OX7 | 03:06 |
phunyguy | I think we just have a good old misunderstanding here. | 03:06 |
phunyguy | I read the backscroll. | 03:06 |
ModelEngine | i need 2 minutes | 03:06 |
daftykins | yeah i think ModelEngine got a bit offended by me linking to the !manual | 03:06 |
daftykins | and has decided to cause all this drama because of it | 03:07 |
phunyguy | let's just calm down, and try to get along. I see no malicious intent on either side, and it escalated. | 03:07 |
daftykins | well i actually see some trolling right here with the intent to ruin my rep to other new users joining | 03:07 |
phunyguy | remember we are all volunteers... even the ops. | 03:07 |
ModelEngine | phunyguy: did you read all of dafty's harrassing comments meant to piss me off? he was very antagonizing | 03:07 |
daftykins | so it depends whether ModelEngine will agree to let it go and move on. | 03:07 |
daftykins | ModelEngine: you're making it up. | 03:08 |
phunyguy | I am asking you both to drop it. | 03:08 |
ModelEngine | phunyguy: do you see that he won't even acknoledge that he was condescending, rude, and antaagonizing? | 03:08 |
ModelEngine | phunyguy: will you hear me out? | 03:08 |
phunyguy | no. | 03:08 |
phunyguy | I have heard enough. | 03:08 |
ModelEngine | i haven't even explained it to you | 03:08 |
phunyguy | Sure you have. | 03:09 |
phunyguy | and I read the backscroll. | 03:09 |
ModelEngine | i am a new user here, and i just wanted someone to patiently explain something, but dafty could do nothing but condescend me and treat me unfairly. he is experienced, and i am not. I thought ubuntu was a community where peopole could feel safe to ask questions. is it not? | 03:09 |
daftykins | tell me which line i was being condescending in? | 03:10 |
ModelEngine | oh now you care | 03:10 |
daftykins | because i really have no idea what you're talking about :) | 03:10 |
ModelEngine | phunyguy: ? | 03:10 |
daftykins | sigh such a timewaster | 03:10 |
Unit193 | David-A: Heya, need help with anything? | 03:10 |
ModelEngine | see, comments like that, don't make others feel very good, dafty | 03:10 |
daftykins | and nor should it, you are trolling. | 03:11 |
ModelEngine | phunyguy: do you see even a bit how dafty is being condescending and treating others (especially new ppl to ubuntu) unfairly? | 03:11 |
daftykins | you have yet to paste a line because you know you're making it up :) | 03:11 |
ModelEngine | I will paste a line right now, hang on a sec: \ | 03:12 |
David-A | Unit193: no, just watching how the dispute that started in #ubuntu is working out | 03:12 |
Unit193 | David-A: Please no rubber necking. | 03:12 |
phunyguy | David-A: please part the channel | 03:12 |
phunyguy | see /topic | 03:12 |
David-A | ok | 03:12 |
phunyguy | ModelEngine and daftykins, we have heard both sides. Our job here isn't to punish users, it is to keep order in the channels. I need you both to agree to disagree here. | 03:13 |
daftykins | i'm happy to move on :) | 03:13 |
phunyguy | that's 1. | 03:13 |
phunyguy | ModelEngine? | 03:15 |
ModelEngine | can I be assured that I won't be condescended (made to feel stupid) when I have a question that I need someone to be patient in explaining, because I am not an expert on ubuntu, but am a new user looking to start out in a friendly 'community'? | 03:15 |
phunyguy | ModelEngine: that is between you and daftykins to hash out outside of the channels. | 03:15 |
ModelEngine | and how do i do that? he's on the other side of the world! | 03:15 |
ModelEngine | but, yes, i will move on | 03:16 |
phunyguy | ModelEngine: Private message. | 03:16 |
ModelEngine | oic | 03:16 |
phunyguy | Like I said, we are all volunteers here, and it is not our job to punish. | 03:16 |
ModelEngine | ok, i will steer clear of dafty if he steers clear of me and doesn't intentionally try to make me look stupid | 03:16 |
ModelEngine | to other in the channel | 03:16 |
phunyguy | All support in these channels is given on a volunteer basis, and that needs to be remembered. | 03:16 |
ModelEngine | i know, but when i ask a question, i expect to be treated like a human being not a pile of poop | 03:17 |
phunyguy | THank you for your understanding. | 03:17 |
ModelEngine | phunyguy: thank you for hearing me out, i appreciate being respected | 03:17 |
phunyguy | No problem :) | 03:17 |
ModelEngine | i feel much better now, have a good day :) | 03:18 |
phunyguy | Please remember that further escalation in the channels will result in further action | 03:18 |
ModelEngine | how would you recommend that i escalate it? | 03:18 |
phunyguy | ModelEngine: the ignore button works wonders | 03:18 |
ModelEngine | cool, since i'm new, can you pls tell me where to find it? | 03:18 |
phunyguy | that depends on the client. | 03:18 |
ModelEngine | hexchat | 03:18 |
phunyguy | and that is beyond the scope of this channel. | 03:19 |
phunyguy | there is an ignore button in your brain, use that for now. | 03:19 |
ModelEngine | ok thats alright. have a good day and thank you for your help | 03:19 |
ModelEngine | lol :) thanks | 03:19 |
ModelEngine | bye bye | 03:19 |
phunyguy | cya. | 03:19 |
daftykins | o/ | 03:19 |
BlackPower | Y YU RACEST ASS CRAKKERS BAN ME? | 05:12 |
BlackPower | STUPID BITCH | 05:12 |
tonyyarusso | I think you just answered your own question there. | 05:13 |
BlackPower | BITCH YU RACEST ND STUPID ASS HELL WYTE MOFUCKA | 05:14 |
BlackPower | KKK BITCH | 05:14 |
tonyyarusso | Yeah, that sort of language is never allowed in the Ubuntu channels. You'll have to find somewhere else to chat like that. | 05:14 |
BlackPower | FUK YU RACEST ASS CRAKKER | 05:15 |
BlackPower | WE GOT PROBLEMS CUZ O YU WYTE DEVEL SELF | 05:16 |
BlackPower | DUM BITCH | 05:16 |
BlackPower | YU BAN ME CUZ IM BLACK RACEST BITCH | 05:17 |
tonyyarusso | Chill pill time. | 05:17 |
valorie | thank you for quieting that | 05:25 |
tonyyarusso | Any interest in being civil now? | 05:28 |
tonyyarusso | That works too. | 05:29 |
ubottu | In #ubuntu, gshmu1 said: ubottu: my vpn is work ok, but i can't export it (PPTP) | 09:19 |
gshmu1 | https://clbin.com/7OgauO.png | 09:25 |
gshmu1 | Cannot export VPN connection | 09:26 |
ikonia | hello gshmu1 | 09:32 |
gshmu1 | ikonia: hello | 09:33 |
ikonia | I think you're in the wrong channel this is #ubuntu-ops | 09:33 |
ikonia | my want to try #ubuntu for support | 09:33 |
ikonia | @btlogin | 09:33 |
gshmu1 | "" ubottu: Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail | 09:34 |
ikonia | ? | 09:34 |
gshmu1 | forward message | 09:34 |
ikonia | gshmu1: do you need anything from the ubuntu operator team or are you trying to get ubuntu support | 09:35 |
gshmu1 | this is a bug! i confirm it at web... | 09:35 |
ikonia | gshmu1: so you're looking for ubuntu support ? | 09:36 |
gshmu1 | no, but i want fix this bug | 09:36 |
ikonia | ok - then this is the wrong channel | 09:37 |
ikonia | if you don't need anything from the ubuntu operators please /part this channel | 09:37 |
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bazhang | LMNOP_, dont idle here | 16:29 |
Unit193 | ubottu is on a break, need another? | 16:50 |
DJones | Anybody with access to ubottu? Currently MIA | 18:14 |
DJones | tsimpson: See above | 18:24 |
Unit193 | I have my clone if you need one *right now*, until then. | 18:29 |
DJones | Its been missing for about 4 hrs | 18:30 |
Unit193 | I put ubot93 in #x* #l and studio. | 18:30 |
DJones | I'd be happy with that until tsimpson cam re-enable ubottu | 18:31 |
Unit193 | DOne. | 18:32 |
DJones | Thanks | 18:33 |
ikonia | ls/win 4 | 20:31 |
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