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bazhangId be very surprised if the r7 240 worked with fglrx00:47
ModelEnginei need to speak with an operator, can someone pls pm me? thx01:59
Unit193Please state the nature of your request, and someone may be with you presently.02:00
ModelEngineI apparently seem to be pissing ppl off in the channel, but I have no idea why or how, as I seem to be following all the rules02:01
ModelEnginehttp://imgur.com/jkzT6uQ  http://imgur.com/u5ZaHa6  http://imgur.com/sUE8OX702:03
ModelEnginethose are the reason for this question. please see the replies to my questions from user: daftykins02:03
ModelEngineas you can see from the transcript, dafty seems to be upset about something, however I have NO idea why or for what reason I am condescended02:05
ModelEngineI thought #ubuntu is where beginners like me can feel safe to ask questions without getting snapped at. If that is not the purpose of #ubuntu, please state the purpose02:06
ModelEngineUnit193: can you help me with this?02:08
ModelEnginewould anyone be around to help?02:11
ModelEngineis there someone here who would be available to explain to me the policies, procedures and protocols associated with chatting in #ubuntu?02:19
ModelEngineMy mistake, I had thought that #ubuntu ops was there as a sort of moderator, but I guess not.02:23
pleia2ModelEngine: please be patient, someone familiar with #ubuntu will have to help you out02:24
pleia2!guidelines02:24
ubottuThe guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines02:24
pleia2but you can start there if you're looking for policies and things ^^02:25
ModelEnginepleia2: thanks, I'm reading the EULA or w/e its called right now to find out what appropriate channel behavior is, and I will def wait for an answer, thank you!02:26
ModelEnginewhile reading this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines i have found numerous examples of how not to treat a noob, as well as examples on how to be polite when asking a question. Good to know. I'm learning and want to learn more, I just need ppl who are willing to be patient with me02:29
ModelEnginepleia2: i asked at 19:00, and it is now 19:36, it appears to be a bad time (i.e., busy, etc) would it be better if I just emailed my issue to the irc ppl?02:37
pleia2ModelEngine: if you can't stick around I'd suggest coming back later (there isn't really a dispute resolution email aside from the council, and you don't need their help at this point)02:38
ModelEnginecan you tell me if it is standard procedure to condescend a noob when he is asking a question? cuz if it is, obviously i joined the wrong channel02:39
ModelEnginei feel like cuz daftykins is a reg contributer, that everyone is just gonna try to sweep this under the rug. I was always under the understanding that the ubuntu community encourages new people to join and get involved. As a new user on ubuntu, geting snapped at for asking a question doesn't make me feel very welcome or interested in joining this 'community'02:41
pleia2I won't speak in such generalities, the incident in question is best discussed with someone familiar with the situation02:42
ModelEnginepleia2: ok, that's cool. i do appreciate your speakign with me tho02:42
pleia2you're welcome :) I hope you find what you're looking for02:42
ModelEnginethanks :) if you the community is anythign like you, then obviously i just stumbled upon a bad apple. I hope that this is the case.02:43
ModelEnginea bad apple with dafty, i mean02:43
daftykinshey ModelEngine02:56
daftykinscan someone get rid of this troll?02:56
ModelEnginehey dafty, i have proof of you violating the TOS of the IRC02:57
daftykinsno you don't :)02:57
ubottudaftykins called the ops in #ubuntu (ModelEngine trolling and disrupting the channel)02:57
ModelEnginewell, we'll just wait for an op now won't we?02:59
daftykinshonestly you really should find better things to do with your life than create drama in IRC on a Friday night03:00
daftykinsphunyguy: so it seems ModelEngine has gotten the wrong end of the stick here and has a bit of a hard on for me now03:02
daftykinsi really don't have a clue what's going on03:02
phunyguyModelEngine: an op is here now.  Let's talk.03:02
ModelEnginejust act stupid,dafty03:03
ModelEnginewho is the op?03:03
phunyguy<---03:03
phunyguyOne of them anyway.03:03
ModelEnginecool, lets have a discusiion, shall we03:03
ModelEngineok, so, phunyguy is the OP, so i have something to tell you03:03
phunyguyI am going to read backscroll in #ubuntu as well, I would just appreciate a few minutes do to that.03:04
ModelEnginei will pastebin it, and imgur it so it doesn't flood the channel03:04
phunyguyto do*03:04
ModelEnginefor sure03:04
ModelEnginephunyguy: here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/8YDAaZb703:05
ModelEnginephunyguy: here is the screenshots of daftykins condescending me and treating me like garbage:http://imgur.com/jkzT6uQ  http://imgur.com/u5ZaHa6  http://imgur.com/sUE8OX703:06
phunyguyI think we just have a good old misunderstanding here.03:06
phunyguyI read the backscroll.03:06
ModelEnginei need 2 minutes03:06
daftykinsyeah i think ModelEngine got a bit offended by me linking to the !manual03:06
daftykinsand has decided to cause all this drama because of it03:07
phunyguylet's just calm down, and try to get along.  I see no malicious intent on either side, and it escalated.03:07
daftykinswell i actually see some trolling right here with the intent to ruin my rep to other new users joining03:07
phunyguyremember we are all volunteers... even the ops.03:07
ModelEnginephunyguy: did you read all of dafty's harrassing comments meant to piss me off? he was very antagonizing03:07
daftykinsso it depends whether ModelEngine will agree to let it go and move on.03:07
daftykinsModelEngine: you're making it up.03:08
phunyguyI am asking you both to drop it.03:08
ModelEnginephunyguy: do you see that he won't even acknoledge that he was condescending, rude, and antaagonizing?03:08
ModelEnginephunyguy: will  you hear me out?03:08
phunyguyno.03:08
phunyguyI have heard enough.03:08
ModelEnginei haven't even explained it to you03:08
phunyguySure you have.03:09
phunyguyand I read the backscroll.03:09
ModelEnginei am a new user here, and i just wanted someone to patiently explain something, but dafty could do nothing but condescend me and treat me unfairly. he is experienced, and i am not. I thought ubuntu was a community where peopole could feel safe to ask questions. is it not?03:09
daftykinstell me which line i was being condescending in?03:10
ModelEngineoh now you care03:10
daftykinsbecause i really have no idea what you're talking about :)03:10
ModelEnginephunyguy: ?03:10
daftykinssigh such a timewaster03:10
Unit193David-A: Heya, need help with anything?03:10
ModelEnginesee, comments like that, don't make others feel very good, dafty03:10
daftykinsand nor should it, you are trolling.03:11
ModelEnginephunyguy: do you see even a bit how dafty is being condescending and treating others (especially new ppl to ubuntu) unfairly?03:11
daftykinsyou have yet to paste a line because you know you're making it up :)03:11
ModelEngineI will paste a line right now, hang on a sec: \03:12
David-AUnit193: no, just watching how the dispute that started in #ubuntu is working out03:12
Unit193David-A: Please no rubber necking.03:12
phunyguyDavid-A: please part the channel03:12
phunyguysee /topic03:12
David-Aok03:12
phunyguyModelEngine and daftykins, we have heard both sides.  Our job here isn't to punish users, it is to keep order in the channels.  I need you both to agree to disagree here.03:13
daftykinsi'm happy to move on :)03:13
phunyguythat's 1.03:13
phunyguyModelEngine?03:15
ModelEnginecan I be assured that I won't be condescended (made to feel stupid) when I have a question that I need someone to be patient in explaining, because I am not an expert on ubuntu, but am a new user looking to start out in a friendly 'community'?03:15
phunyguyModelEngine: that is between you and daftykins to hash out outside of the channels.03:15
ModelEngineand how do i do that? he's on the other side of the world!03:15
ModelEnginebut, yes, i will move on03:16
phunyguyModelEngine: Private message.03:16
ModelEngineoic03:16
phunyguyLike I said, we are all volunteers here, and it is not our job to punish.03:16
ModelEngineok, i will steer clear of dafty if he steers clear of me and doesn't intentionally try to make me look stupid03:16
ModelEngineto other in the channel03:16
phunyguyAll support in these channels is given on a volunteer basis, and that needs to be remembered.03:16
ModelEnginei know, but when i ask a question, i expect to be treated like a human being not a pile of poop03:17
phunyguyTHank you for your understanding.03:17
ModelEnginephunyguy: thank you for hearing me out, i appreciate being respected03:17
phunyguyNo problem :)03:17
ModelEnginei feel much better now, have a good day :)03:18
phunyguyPlease remember that further escalation in the channels will result in further action03:18
ModelEnginehow would you recommend that i escalate it?03:18
phunyguyModelEngine: the ignore button works wonders03:18
ModelEnginecool, since i'm new, can you pls tell me where to find it?03:18
phunyguythat depends on the client.03:18
ModelEnginehexchat03:18
phunyguyand that is beyond the scope of this channel.03:19
phunyguythere is an ignore button in your brain, use that for now.03:19
ModelEngineok thats alright. have a good day and thank you for your help03:19
ModelEnginelol :) thanks03:19
ModelEnginebye bye03:19
phunyguycya.03:19
daftykinso/03:19
BlackPowerY YU RACEST ASS CRAKKERS BAN ME?05:12
BlackPowerSTUPID BITCH05:12
tonyyarussoI think you just answered your own question there.05:13
BlackPowerBITCH YU RACEST ND STUPID ASS HELL WYTE MOFUCKA05:14
BlackPowerKKK BITCH05:14
tonyyarussoYeah, that sort of language is never allowed in the Ubuntu channels.  You'll have to find somewhere else to chat like that.05:14
BlackPowerFUK YU RACEST ASS CRAKKER05:15
BlackPowerWE GOT PROBLEMS CUZ O YU WYTE DEVEL SELF05:16
BlackPowerDUM BITCH05:16
BlackPowerYU BAN ME CUZ IM BLACK RACEST BITCH05:17
tonyyarussoChill pill time.05:17
valoriethank you for quieting that05:25
tonyyarussoAny interest in being civil now?05:28
tonyyarussoThat works too.05:29
ubottuIn #ubuntu, gshmu1 said: ubottu: my vpn is work ok, but i can't export it (PPTP)09:19
gshmu1https://clbin.com/7OgauO.png09:25
gshmu1Cannot export VPN connection09:26
ikoniahello gshmu109:32
gshmu1ikonia: hello09:33
ikoniaI think you're in the wrong channel this is #ubuntu-ops09:33
ikoniamy want to try #ubuntu for support09:33
ikonia@btlogin09:33
gshmu1"" ubottu: Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail09:34
ikonia?09:34
gshmu1forward message09:34
ikoniagshmu1: do you need anything from the ubuntu operator team or are you trying to get ubuntu support09:35
gshmu1this is a bug!  i confirm it at web...09:35
ikoniagshmu1: so you're looking for ubuntu support ?09:36
gshmu1no, but i want fix this bug09:36
ikoniaok - then this is the wrong channel09:37
ikoniaif you don't need anything from the ubuntu operators please /part this channel09:37
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bazhangLMNOP_, dont idle here16:29
Unit193ubottu is on a break, need another?16:50
DJonesAnybody with access to ubottu? Currently MIA18:14
DJonestsimpson: See above18:24
Unit193I have my clone if you need one *right now*, until then.18:29
DJonesIts been missing for about 4 hrs18:30
Unit193I put ubot93 in #x* #l and studio.18:30
DJonesI'd be happy with that until tsimpson cam re-enable ubottu18:31
Unit193DOne.18:32
DJonesThanks18:33
ikonials/win 420:31
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