[00:47] Id be very surprised if the r7 240 worked with fglrx [01:59] i need to speak with an operator, can someone pls pm me? thx [02:00] Please state the nature of your request, and someone may be with you presently. [02:01] I apparently seem to be pissing ppl off in the channel, but I have no idea why or how, as I seem to be following all the rules [02:03] http://imgur.com/jkzT6uQ http://imgur.com/u5ZaHa6 http://imgur.com/sUE8OX7 [02:03] those are the reason for this question. please see the replies to my questions from user: daftykins [02:05] as you can see from the transcript, dafty seems to be upset about something, however I have NO idea why or for what reason I am condescended [02:06] I thought #ubuntu is where beginners like me can feel safe to ask questions without getting snapped at. If that is not the purpose of #ubuntu, please state the purpose [02:08] Unit193: can you help me with this? [02:11] would anyone be around to help? [02:19] is there someone here who would be available to explain to me the policies, procedures and protocols associated with chatting in #ubuntu? [02:23] My mistake, I had thought that #ubuntu ops was there as a sort of moderator, but I guess not. [02:24] ModelEngine: please be patient, someone familiar with #ubuntu will have to help you out [02:24] !guidelines [02:24] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [02:25] but you can start there if you're looking for policies and things ^^ [02:26] pleia2: thanks, I'm reading the EULA or w/e its called right now to find out what appropriate channel behavior is, and I will def wait for an answer, thank you! [02:29] while reading this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines i have found numerous examples of how not to treat a noob, as well as examples on how to be polite when asking a question. Good to know. I'm learning and want to learn more, I just need ppl who are willing to be patient with me [02:37] pleia2: i asked at 19:00, and it is now 19:36, it appears to be a bad time (i.e., busy, etc) would it be better if I just emailed my issue to the irc ppl? [02:38] ModelEngine: if you can't stick around I'd suggest coming back later (there isn't really a dispute resolution email aside from the council, and you don't need their help at this point) [02:39] can you tell me if it is standard procedure to condescend a noob when he is asking a question? cuz if it is, obviously i joined the wrong channel [02:41] i feel like cuz daftykins is a reg contributer, that everyone is just gonna try to sweep this under the rug. I was always under the understanding that the ubuntu community encourages new people to join and get involved. As a new user on ubuntu, geting snapped at for asking a question doesn't make me feel very welcome or interested in joining this 'community' [02:42] I won't speak in such generalities, the incident in question is best discussed with someone familiar with the situation [02:42] pleia2: ok, that's cool. i do appreciate your speakign with me tho [02:42] you're welcome :) I hope you find what you're looking for [02:43] thanks :) if you the community is anythign like you, then obviously i just stumbled upon a bad apple. I hope that this is the case. [02:43] a bad apple with dafty, i mean [02:56] hey ModelEngine [02:56] can someone get rid of this troll? [02:57] hey dafty, i have proof of you violating the TOS of the IRC [02:57] no you don't :) [02:57] daftykins called the ops in #ubuntu (ModelEngine trolling and disrupting the channel) [02:59] well, we'll just wait for an op now won't we? [03:00] honestly you really should find better things to do with your life than create drama in IRC on a Friday night [03:02] phunyguy: so it seems ModelEngine has gotten the wrong end of the stick here and has a bit of a hard on for me now [03:02] i really don't have a clue what's going on [03:02] ModelEngine: an op is here now. Let's talk. [03:03] just act stupid,dafty [03:03] who is the op? [03:03] <--- [03:03] One of them anyway. [03:03] cool, lets have a discusiion, shall we [03:03] ok, so, phunyguy is the OP, so i have something to tell you [03:04] I am going to read backscroll in #ubuntu as well, I would just appreciate a few minutes do to that. [03:04] i will pastebin it, and imgur it so it doesn't flood the channel [03:04] to do* [03:04] for sure [03:05] phunyguy: here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/8YDAaZb7 [03:06] phunyguy: here is the screenshots of daftykins condescending me and treating me like garbage:http://imgur.com/jkzT6uQ http://imgur.com/u5ZaHa6 http://imgur.com/sUE8OX7 [03:06] I think we just have a good old misunderstanding here. [03:06] I read the backscroll. [03:06] i need 2 minutes [03:06] yeah i think ModelEngine got a bit offended by me linking to the !manual [03:07] and has decided to cause all this drama because of it [03:07] let's just calm down, and try to get along. I see no malicious intent on either side, and it escalated. [03:07] well i actually see some trolling right here with the intent to ruin my rep to other new users joining [03:07] remember we are all volunteers... even the ops. [03:07] phunyguy: did you read all of dafty's harrassing comments meant to piss me off? he was very antagonizing [03:07] so it depends whether ModelEngine will agree to let it go and move on. [03:08] ModelEngine: you're making it up. [03:08] I am asking you both to drop it. [03:08] phunyguy: do you see that he won't even acknoledge that he was condescending, rude, and antaagonizing? [03:08] phunyguy: will you hear me out? [03:08] no. [03:08] I have heard enough. [03:08] i haven't even explained it to you [03:09] Sure you have. [03:09] and I read the backscroll. [03:09] i am a new user here, and i just wanted someone to patiently explain something, but dafty could do nothing but condescend me and treat me unfairly. he is experienced, and i am not. I thought ubuntu was a community where peopole could feel safe to ask questions. is it not? [03:10] tell me which line i was being condescending in? [03:10] oh now you care [03:10] because i really have no idea what you're talking about :) [03:10] phunyguy: ? [03:10] sigh such a timewaster [03:10] David-A: Heya, need help with anything? [03:10] see, comments like that, don't make others feel very good, dafty [03:11] and nor should it, you are trolling. [03:11] phunyguy: do you see even a bit how dafty is being condescending and treating others (especially new ppl to ubuntu) unfairly? [03:11] you have yet to paste a line because you know you're making it up :) [03:12] I will paste a line right now, hang on a sec: \ [03:12] Unit193: no, just watching how the dispute that started in #ubuntu is working out [03:12] David-A: Please no rubber necking. [03:12] David-A: please part the channel [03:12] see /topic [03:12] ok [03:13] ModelEngine and daftykins, we have heard both sides. Our job here isn't to punish users, it is to keep order in the channels. I need you both to agree to disagree here. [03:13] i'm happy to move on :) [03:13] that's 1. [03:15] ModelEngine? [03:15] can I be assured that I won't be condescended (made to feel stupid) when I have a question that I need someone to be patient in explaining, because I am not an expert on ubuntu, but am a new user looking to start out in a friendly 'community'? [03:15] ModelEngine: that is between you and daftykins to hash out outside of the channels. [03:15] and how do i do that? he's on the other side of the world! [03:16] but, yes, i will move on [03:16] ModelEngine: Private message. [03:16] oic [03:16] Like I said, we are all volunteers here, and it is not our job to punish. [03:16] ok, i will steer clear of dafty if he steers clear of me and doesn't intentionally try to make me look stupid [03:16] to other in the channel [03:16] All support in these channels is given on a volunteer basis, and that needs to be remembered. [03:17] i know, but when i ask a question, i expect to be treated like a human being not a pile of poop [03:17] THank you for your understanding. [03:17] phunyguy: thank you for hearing me out, i appreciate being respected [03:17] No problem :) [03:18] i feel much better now, have a good day :) [03:18] Please remember that further escalation in the channels will result in further action [03:18] how would you recommend that i escalate it? [03:18] ModelEngine: the ignore button works wonders [03:18] cool, since i'm new, can you pls tell me where to find it? [03:18] that depends on the client. [03:18] hexchat [03:19] and that is beyond the scope of this channel. [03:19] there is an ignore button in your brain, use that for now. [03:19] ok thats alright. have a good day and thank you for your help [03:19] lol :) thanks [03:19] bye bye [03:19] cya. [03:19] o/ [05:12] Y YU RACEST ASS CRAKKERS BAN ME? [05:12] STUPID BITCH [05:13] I think you just answered your own question there. [05:14] BITCH YU RACEST ND STUPID ASS HELL WYTE MOFUCKA [05:14] KKK BITCH [05:14] Yeah, that sort of language is never allowed in the Ubuntu channels. You'll have to find somewhere else to chat like that. [05:15] FUK YU RACEST ASS CRAKKER [05:16] WE GOT PROBLEMS CUZ O YU WYTE DEVEL SELF [05:16] DUM BITCH [05:17] YU BAN ME CUZ IM BLACK RACEST BITCH [05:17] Chill pill time. [05:25] thank you for quieting that [05:28] Any interest in being civil now? [05:29] That works too. [09:19] In #ubuntu, gshmu1 said: ubottu: my vpn is work ok, but i can't export it (PPTP) [09:25] https://clbin.com/7OgauO.png [09:26] Cannot export VPN connection [09:32] hello gshmu1 [09:33] ikonia: hello [09:33] I think you're in the wrong channel this is #ubuntu-ops [09:33] my want to try #ubuntu for support [09:33] @btlogin [09:34] "" ubottu: Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail [09:34] ? [09:34] forward message [09:35] gshmu1: do you need anything from the ubuntu operator team or are you trying to get ubuntu support [09:35] this is a bug! i confirm it at web... [09:36] gshmu1: so you're looking for ubuntu support ? [09:36] no, but i want fix this bug [09:37] ok - then this is the wrong channel [09:37] if you don't need anything from the ubuntu operators please /part this channel === popey_ is now known as popey [16:29] LMNOP_, dont idle here [16:50] ubottu is on a break, need another? [18:14] Anybody with access to ubottu? Currently MIA [18:24] tsimpson: See above [18:29] I have my clone if you need one *right now*, until then. [18:30] Its been missing for about 4 hrs [18:30] I put ubot93 in #x* #l and studio. [18:31] I'd be happy with that until tsimpson cam re-enable ubottu [18:32] DOne. [18:33] Thanks [20:31] ls/win 4 === tsimpson is now known as tsimpson_