[00:47] <bazhang> Id be very surprised if the r7 240 worked with fglrx
[01:59] <ModelEngine> i need to speak with an operator, can someone pls pm me? thx
[02:00] <Unit193> Please state the nature of your request, and someone may be with you presently.
[02:01] <ModelEngine> I apparently seem to be pissing ppl off in the channel, but I have no idea why or how, as I seem to be following all the rules
[02:03] <ModelEngine> http://imgur.com/jkzT6uQ  http://imgur.com/u5ZaHa6  http://imgur.com/sUE8OX7
[02:03] <ModelEngine> those are the reason for this question. please see the replies to my questions from user: daftykins
[02:05] <ModelEngine> as you can see from the transcript, dafty seems to be upset about something, however I have NO idea why or for what reason I am condescended
[02:06] <ModelEngine> I thought #ubuntu is where beginners like me can feel safe to ask questions without getting snapped at. If that is not the purpose of #ubuntu, please state the purpose
[02:08] <ModelEngine> Unit193: can you help me with this?
[02:11] <ModelEngine> would anyone be around to help?
[02:19] <ModelEngine> is there someone here who would be available to explain to me the policies, procedures and protocols associated with chatting in #ubuntu?
[02:23] <ModelEngine> My mistake, I had thought that #ubuntu ops was there as a sort of moderator, but I guess not.
[02:24] <pleia2> ModelEngine: please be patient, someone familiar with #ubuntu will have to help you out
[02:24] <pleia2> !guidelines
[02:25] <pleia2> but you can start there if you're looking for policies and things ^^
[02:26] <ModelEngine> pleia2: thanks, I'm reading the EULA or w/e its called right now to find out what appropriate channel behavior is, and I will def wait for an answer, thank you!
[02:29] <ModelEngine> while reading this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines i have found numerous examples of how not to treat a noob, as well as examples on how to be polite when asking a question. Good to know. I'm learning and want to learn more, I just need ppl who are willing to be patient with me
[02:37] <ModelEngine> pleia2: i asked at 19:00, and it is now 19:36, it appears to be a bad time (i.e., busy, etc) would it be better if I just emailed my issue to the irc ppl?
[02:38] <pleia2> ModelEngine: if you can't stick around I'd suggest coming back later (there isn't really a dispute resolution email aside from the council, and you don't need their help at this point)
[02:39] <ModelEngine> can you tell me if it is standard procedure to condescend a noob when he is asking a question? cuz if it is, obviously i joined the wrong channel
[02:41] <ModelEngine> i feel like cuz daftykins is a reg contributer, that everyone is just gonna try to sweep this under the rug. I was always under the understanding that the ubuntu community encourages new people to join and get involved. As a new user on ubuntu, geting snapped at for asking a question doesn't make me feel very welcome or interested in joining this 'community'
[02:42] <pleia2> I won't speak in such generalities, the incident in question is best discussed with someone familiar with the situation
[02:42] <ModelEngine> pleia2: ok, that's cool. i do appreciate your speakign with me tho
[02:42] <pleia2> you're welcome :) I hope you find what you're looking for
[02:43] <ModelEngine> thanks :) if you the community is anythign like you, then obviously i just stumbled upon a bad apple. I hope that this is the case.
[02:43] <ModelEngine> a bad apple with dafty, i mean
[02:56] <daftykins> hey ModelEngine
[02:56] <daftykins> can someone get rid of this troll?
[02:57] <ModelEngine> hey dafty, i have proof of you violating the TOS of the IRC
[02:57] <daftykins> no you don't :)
[02:59] <ModelEngine> well, we'll just wait for an op now won't we?
[03:00] <daftykins> honestly you really should find better things to do with your life than create drama in IRC on a Friday night
[03:02] <daftykins> phunyguy: so it seems ModelEngine has gotten the wrong end of the stick here and has a bit of a hard on for me now
[03:02] <daftykins> i really don't have a clue what's going on
[03:02] <phunyguy> ModelEngine: an op is here now.  Let's talk.
[03:03] <ModelEngine> just act stupid,dafty
[03:03] <ModelEngine> who is the op?
[03:03] <phunyguy> <---
[03:03] <phunyguy> One of them anyway.
[03:03] <ModelEngine> cool, lets have a discusiion, shall we
[03:03] <ModelEngine> ok, so, phunyguy is the OP, so i have something to tell you
[03:04] <phunyguy> I am going to read backscroll in #ubuntu as well, I would just appreciate a few minutes do to that.
[03:04] <ModelEngine> i will pastebin it, and imgur it so it doesn't flood the channel
[03:04] <phunyguy> to do*
[03:04] <ModelEngine> for sure
[03:05] <ModelEngine> phunyguy: here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/8YDAaZb7
[03:06] <ModelEngine> phunyguy: here is the screenshots of daftykins condescending me and treating me like garbage:http://imgur.com/jkzT6uQ  http://imgur.com/u5ZaHa6  http://imgur.com/sUE8OX7
[03:06] <phunyguy> I think we just have a good old misunderstanding here.
[03:06] <phunyguy> I read the backscroll.
[03:06] <ModelEngine> i need 2 minutes
[03:06] <daftykins> yeah i think ModelEngine got a bit offended by me linking to the !manual
[03:07] <daftykins> and has decided to cause all this drama because of it
[03:07] <phunyguy> let's just calm down, and try to get along.  I see no malicious intent on either side, and it escalated.
[03:07] <daftykins> well i actually see some trolling right here with the intent to ruin my rep to other new users joining
[03:07] <phunyguy> remember we are all volunteers... even the ops.
[03:07] <ModelEngine> phunyguy: did you read all of dafty's harrassing comments meant to piss me off? he was very antagonizing
[03:07] <daftykins> so it depends whether ModelEngine will agree to let it go and move on.
[03:08] <daftykins> ModelEngine: you're making it up.
[03:08] <phunyguy> I am asking you both to drop it.
[03:08] <ModelEngine> phunyguy: do you see that he won't even acknoledge that he was condescending, rude, and antaagonizing?
[03:08] <ModelEngine> phunyguy: will  you hear me out?
[03:08] <phunyguy> no.
[03:08] <phunyguy> I have heard enough.
[03:08] <ModelEngine> i haven't even explained it to you
[03:09] <phunyguy> Sure you have.
[03:09] <phunyguy> and I read the backscroll.
[03:09] <ModelEngine> i am a new user here, and i just wanted someone to patiently explain something, but dafty could do nothing but condescend me and treat me unfairly. he is experienced, and i am not. I thought ubuntu was a community where peopole could feel safe to ask questions. is it not?
[03:10] <daftykins> tell me which line i was being condescending in?
[03:10] <ModelEngine> oh now you care
[03:10] <daftykins> because i really have no idea what you're talking about :)
[03:10] <ModelEngine> phunyguy: ?
[03:10] <daftykins> sigh such a timewaster
[03:10] <Unit193> David-A: Heya, need help with anything?
[03:10] <ModelEngine> see, comments like that, don't make others feel very good, dafty
[03:11] <daftykins> and nor should it, you are trolling.
[03:11] <ModelEngine> phunyguy: do you see even a bit how dafty is being condescending and treating others (especially new ppl to ubuntu) unfairly?
[03:11] <daftykins> you have yet to paste a line because you know you're making it up :)
[03:12] <ModelEngine> I will paste a line right now, hang on a sec: \
[03:12] <David-A> Unit193: no, just watching how the dispute that started in #ubuntu is working out
[03:12] <Unit193> David-A: Please no rubber necking.
[03:12] <phunyguy> David-A: please part the channel
[03:12] <phunyguy> see /topic
[03:12] <David-A> ok
[03:13] <phunyguy> ModelEngine and daftykins, we have heard both sides.  Our job here isn't to punish users, it is to keep order in the channels.  I need you both to agree to disagree here.
[03:13] <daftykins> i'm happy to move on :)
[03:13] <phunyguy> that's 1.
[03:15] <phunyguy> ModelEngine?
[03:15] <ModelEngine> can I be assured that I won't be condescended (made to feel stupid) when I have a question that I need someone to be patient in explaining, because I am not an expert on ubuntu, but am a new user looking to start out in a friendly 'community'?
[03:15] <phunyguy> ModelEngine: that is between you and daftykins to hash out outside of the channels.
[03:15] <ModelEngine> and how do i do that? he's on the other side of the world!
[03:16] <ModelEngine> but, yes, i will move on
[03:16] <phunyguy> ModelEngine: Private message.
[03:16] <ModelEngine> oic
[03:16] <phunyguy> Like I said, we are all volunteers here, and it is not our job to punish.
[03:16] <ModelEngine> ok, i will steer clear of dafty if he steers clear of me and doesn't intentionally try to make me look stupid
[03:16] <ModelEngine> to other in the channel
[03:16] <phunyguy> All support in these channels is given on a volunteer basis, and that needs to be remembered.
[03:17] <ModelEngine> i know, but when i ask a question, i expect to be treated like a human being not a pile of poop
[03:17] <phunyguy> THank you for your understanding.
[03:17] <ModelEngine> phunyguy: thank you for hearing me out, i appreciate being respected
[03:17] <phunyguy> No problem :)
[03:18] <ModelEngine> i feel much better now, have a good day :)
[03:18] <phunyguy> Please remember that further escalation in the channels will result in further action
[03:18] <ModelEngine> how would you recommend that i escalate it?
[03:18] <phunyguy> ModelEngine: the ignore button works wonders
[03:18] <ModelEngine> cool, since i'm new, can you pls tell me where to find it?
[03:18] <phunyguy> that depends on the client.
[03:18] <ModelEngine> hexchat
[03:19] <phunyguy> and that is beyond the scope of this channel.
[03:19] <phunyguy> there is an ignore button in your brain, use that for now.
[03:19] <ModelEngine> ok thats alright. have a good day and thank you for your help
[03:19] <ModelEngine> lol :) thanks
[03:19] <ModelEngine> bye bye
[03:19] <phunyguy> cya.
[03:19] <daftykins> o/
[05:12] <BlackPower> Y YU RACEST ASS CRAKKERS BAN ME?
[05:12] <BlackPower> STUPID BITCH
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> I think you just answered your own question there.
[05:14] <BlackPower> BITCH YU RACEST ND STUPID ASS HELL WYTE MOFUCKA
[05:14] <BlackPower> KKK BITCH
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, that sort of language is never allowed in the Ubuntu channels.  You'll have to find somewhere else to chat like that.
[05:15] <BlackPower> FUK YU RACEST ASS CRAKKER
[05:16] <BlackPower> WE GOT PROBLEMS CUZ O YU WYTE DEVEL SELF
[05:16] <BlackPower> DUM BITCH
[05:17] <BlackPower> YU BAN ME CUZ IM BLACK RACEST BITCH
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> Chill pill time.
[05:25] <valorie> thank you for quieting that
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> Any interest in being civil now?
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> That works too.
[09:25] <gshmu1> https://clbin.com/7OgauO.png
[09:26] <gshmu1> Cannot export VPN connection
[09:32] <ikonia> hello gshmu1
[09:33] <gshmu1> ikonia: hello
[09:33] <ikonia> I think you're in the wrong channel this is #ubuntu-ops
[09:33] <ikonia> my want to try #ubuntu for support
[09:33] <ikonia> @btlogin
[09:34] <gshmu1> "" ubottu: Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail
[09:34] <ikonia> ?
[09:34] <gshmu1> forward message
[09:35] <ikonia> gshmu1: do you need anything from the ubuntu operator team or are you trying to get ubuntu support
[09:35] <gshmu1> this is a bug!  i confirm it at web...
[09:36] <ikonia> gshmu1: so you're looking for ubuntu support ?
[09:36] <gshmu1> no, but i want fix this bug
[09:37] <ikonia> ok - then this is the wrong channel
[09:37] <ikonia> if you don't need anything from the ubuntu operators please /part this channel
[16:29] <bazhang> LMNOP_, dont idle here
[16:50] <Unit193> ubottu is on a break, need another?
[18:14] <DJones> Anybody with access to ubottu? Currently MIA
[18:24] <DJones> tsimpson: See above
[18:29] <Unit193> I have my clone if you need one *right now*, until then.
[18:30] <DJones> Its been missing for about 4 hrs
[18:30] <Unit193> I put ubot93 in #x* #l and studio.
[18:31] <DJones> I'd be happy with that until tsimpson cam re-enable ubottu
[18:32] <Unit193> DOne.
[18:33] <DJones> Thanks
[20:31] <ikonia> ls/win 4