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lotuspsychjeis it gonna happen guys?09:04
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/Meizu-to-Announce-Ubuntu-Phone-on-May-18-Rumour-481321.shtml09:04
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ZacharyI123Can I use a slimport with a nexus 4 running ubuntu? At the moment just a blank screen10:54
sturmflut_ZacharyI123: AFAIK the necessary parts for Multi-Monitor support in Mir/Unity8 have not yet been merged into the phone images.11:06
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ZacharyI123sturmflut_: is there any way I can get them manually? I am using stable, does devel-proposed have these?11:51
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bqphonegood day, any way telegram can send few messages together? without the need to click 1 by 1 by 112:37
bqphoneor can we send an album (which is made by gallery)?12:40
sturmflutZacharyI123: Sorry for the delay. I don't know if all the necessary parts are present in any of the available images at all. mzanetti or ogra_ might know.12:42
ZacharyI123ok, hopefully they will pop up soon. I'd like to remind them I want to know how I can get a converged experience with an ubuntu touch n4 and a slimport adapter?12:43
ZacharyI123thanks anyway12:43
sturmflutZacharyI123: Well, there will soon be a device with full Convergence, so everything has to be ready until then at least ;)12:50
ZacharyI123yeah everything should be pretty much there, lots of demos with nexus 7 at UOS that showed proper convergence with slimport12:52
ZacharyI123wondering how they did that and how I can with a nexus 412:52
ZacharyI123convergence in action on n4 26/7/13 https://youtu.be/bk9-v8Sl4yU we must be able to redo that now somehow12:53
popeythats not ubuntu touch, that's ubuntu for android12:53
lotuspsychjepopey: saw this one yet? http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meizu-to-Announce-Ubuntu-Phone-on-May-18-Rumour-481321.shtml12:58
popeyyeah12:59
lotuspsychjelets hope its real this time13:00
popeythis time?13:00
lotuspsychjethere have been rumours before right13:00
popeyfrom meizu?13:02
lotuspsychjeyes13:03
lotuspsychjethere have been meizu tweets in the past, saying its gonna release soon13:04
lotuspsychjeoh well, we gonna see what happens13:04
bqphonewell 18 may is in 2 days13:04
lotuspsychjeyep :p13:04
bqphoneany idea about the price?13:04
bqphoneis it only for chinese market or for everyone?13:05
lotuspsychjeit will be high-end for sure13:05
lotuspsychjeand usa surely will be able to order13:06
mariogripsince awe is not online, maybe i can ask you rsalveti: any ideas what can cause radio_state == RADIO_STATE_UNAVAILABLE? (ofono: plugins/ril.c)13:06
lotuspsychjenot sure about europe13:06
popeythe rumours are fun :)13:20
lotuspsychje:p13:20
talariHi. Anyone online who has experience porting to new devices?13:27
mariogriptalari: I am :)13:29
talariGreat! I have been trying to port to Samsung S3 i9300, but keep getting stuck on the same make error.13:30
mariogripwhat error are you getting?13:31
talarimake complains about "no rule to make target" something ..R.stamp needed by something else. I am looking for the file where I saved it . Just a second...13:32
sturmflutpopey: BTW, my App Store RSS feed seems to be polled by about 30 to 40 actual, unique users a day (I filter the Google/Bing crawlers out). That's a pretty nice number for a niche service that hasn't even been announced widely :)13:34
popey:)13:34
talariI couldn't find the file. I'm running make once more to reproduce the error now.13:35
talarimake: *** No rule to make target '/home/ari/phablet/out/target/common/obj/APPS/framework-res_intermediates/src/R.stamp', needed by '/home/ari/phablet/out/target/common/obj/APPS/AdvancedDisplay_intermediates/src/R.stamp'.  Stop.13:36
talarimariogrip: Any ideas?13:39
mariogriptalari: it looks like it trying to make a "android app" that i'm pretty sure is not needed by ubuntu13:39
mariogripa app called AdvancedDisplay13:40
talariOK. Does this mean I have to locate and remove the makefile for the app (or perhaps an entire directory)?13:40
mariogripthe directory, you can safely remove any java code13:41
talariThanks for your help! I'll try this for my next run. Gotta go now... :)13:43
t-askIs there a way to limit data transfer of each SIM card? Can I see the current broadband usage of each card somewhere?14:17
t-askCan I change the color of the lock screen background circles to blue somewhere?14:18
t-askPressing SIM1 "unlock" opens PIN code pad with "Unlock SIM 2(!)"14:21
t-askChanging SIM card on the fly without restarting the phone, doesn't open PIN input pad. Restarting the phone enables it as expected14:23
t-askWhen Wifi and mobile data is enabled, I can't see an indicator that shows me when data is transferred from the top status bar.14:27
t-askI guess, it's using Wifi, while the bq phone doesn't give feedback from the statusbar icons like an animated icon eg.14:29
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mandelbrot77hello! I'm interested in having VPN working on UBUNTU phone.....16:00
mandelbrot77someone can give me an hint regarding this?16:01
mandelbrot77I have an Aquaris e4.5 ubuntu edition.16:02
SebsebsebbHi16:14
Sebsebsebbjust tried to upgrade the ubuntu touch version from the default r16 on the bq ubuntu phone to the r2216:15
Sebsebsebbtried that quite a few times16:16
Sebsebsebbgot it downloading like three times but then it does not install and get a message saying the system update failed16:17
Sebsebsebbthere were some app updates to, but it seems to have installed those16:18
thom_hello. I am installing ubuntu on a nexus7 2013. Is ubuntu for devices the same thing as touch.?16:23
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faenilmandelbrot77: I think you'll get more answers if you ask on Monday ;)18:46
faenilor you can try having a look at the ubuntu-phone mailing list, it probably already has something about vpn :)18:47
anpok__mandelbrot77: at the moment you would have to install openvpn on top.. there is no ui yet..19:05
anpok__(install with apt that is..)19:05
Drew_NeilsonHi everyone, I have a question.  Is the latest stable version of Ubuntu Touch currently the same version as the desktop stable version of Ubuntu?19:35
redux_000Hello, are information about Nexus compatibility up-to-date on this site? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices20:20
redux_000More specifically asking about Nexus 520:20
sturmflutredux_000: The Nexus 5 is no longer officially supported20:24
redux_000Aww that's a pity, thanks for information though sturmflut20:28
sturmflutI think I can say it now: bq will apparently ship a second Ubuntu device, the Aquaris E5, and the MX4 will "soon" be shipped to Ubuntu Insiders.21:13
Drew_Neilsonsturmflut do you have a link with this information?21:42
sturmflutDrew_Neilson: http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/16/the-other-bq-ubuntu-phone/ and https://plus.google.com/115563650741463848565/posts/BMS8QUMdFuv21:45
OerHekselse https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E521:53
Drew_Neilsonsturmflut do a Google search for ["vegetahd"] (include the quotation marks) and you'll see several links referencing an "E5"21:53
DonkeyHoteiwill the number of results be over 9000?21:58
OerHekswild guess: it depends on quotationmarks, DonkeyHotei22:00
dobeysturmflut: the nexus 5 was never officially supported22:00
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sturmflutTo the people who apparently shouted my nickname when they were asked about who should be among the first in the world to get an Ubuntu MX4: I feel like some kind of Internet hero, and you can expect a lot of awesome things once the phone is on my desk :)22:34
Benno-007sturmflut: :D By the way, hard reset of the BQ is done well by power for 20 seconds. Power + Vol- is for 30s is not necessary. But thanks for the hint in your notes!22:47
sturmflutBenno-007: Oh, I have to write this down and correct the article!22:47
Benno-007Both is correct working.22:47
sturmflutBenno-007: Sure, but why make it more complicated than it is22:48
sturmflutBenno-007: Any wishes for future articles?22:48
nicomen_if you just buy an aquaris e5 can't you install an ubuntu kernel on it?22:49
sturmflutnicomen_: No, you have to use a tool by the manufacturer (MediaTek) to change a couple of things at the core of the phone. Android and Ubuntu Touch are too different.22:50
nicomen_like bios stuff?22:51
nicomen_or hardware or what?22:51
sturmflutnicomen_: Mostly stuff on the internal flash, partition layout and such22:51
nicomen_oh22:52
nicomen_but it's not a ROM flash right?22:53
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sturmflutnicomen_: I think it also writes some stuff that is "usually" not writeable, like not accessible via fastboot22:54
Benno-007sturmflut: Your found factory mode comes up with Vol- only, too. And the boot menĂ¼ without power, too: There is only needed Vol+ when the red led starts to light. It's simpler to remember.22:54
sturmflutBenno-007: *scrible*22:54
Benno-007One find out and another makes it simpler. ;)22:56
Benno-007I've not tested if the red led is needed for both cases or case 1 or no case. I thought other things are more important. But when you correct this maybe a little check and uniform description is better. So, I'll test it now.22:59
Benno-007Unfortunately there is no radio channel on the three frequencies in factory mode. ;)23:00
Benno-007sturmflut: Oh my god I cannot reproduse it for now. :D I think: We have to wait for the red led in both cases. But then you can release the power button before vol+ or vol- is pressed. But my problem is now: I don't get the red led at all. Maybe something has chanced and your method is more valid. My old notes worked for me before some time and vol- at friday.23:14
sturmflutBenno-007: I think I need to find the responsible code at some time and just look at what buttons it actually polls. Might be the stuff for a future article, if I can find this out, the possibilities are endless.23:19
Benno-007sturmflut: Yes, it was only a beside note for talking and not so much for real work at this stuff. We all here will let you know if new articles are on our wishlists. ;) Maybe how to get the adb shell in factory mode exactly. I got none even with sudo. I'm not sure on which partition this mode resides if I will need recovery and a adb shell from factory mode (and not from recovery mode standard image). So this partition must be protected of manipu23:26
mekhamihey folks. anyone have experience putting the mobile os on a galaxy note 4?23:26
sturmflutBenno-007: Well, there are much more partitions than tit seems to be necessary, and there are about 765 megabytes "missing" from the partition table, so there is enough space to hide things in.23:29
sturmfluts/tit/it/23:29
sturmflutBenno-007: I already have an idea... let me look at it tomorrow23:31
Benno-007sturmflut: I've have both, original images from partitions and whole device, too. But some little partitions are redundant for security I think, such as boot. Same UUID but I didn't check exactly if it is the boot partition but this would make sense and it was small and in a emulator I killed 10 MB of the device with dd for testing and run in a initramfs bash builtin. Then ok. We will see what the time brings.23:41
sturmflutBenno-007: I think I have to disect the whole boot order, like which parts run in which order at what time in which mode, at some point. It is already on my list. I want to get to the point where we control as much of the device as possible.23:46
Benno-007Good thing. Needs much time.23:47
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Benno-007sturmflut: By the way power was now really not enough to leave fastboot mode (without cable). All keys for only about 5s worked. But my red light really was not blinking in the last test to get into the boot menu. normally it should be: pressing power + vol+ until the red light is flashing and then release. now it was: ...releasing it without red light, so I got into the boot menu but it scrolled up until I released then, of course. Maybe my devic23:53

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