[09:04] <lotuspsychje> is it gonna happen guys?
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meizu-to-Announce-Ubuntu-Phone-on-May-18-Rumour-481321.shtml
[10:54] <ZacharyI123> Can I use a slimport with a nexus 4 running ubuntu? At the moment just a blank screen
[11:06] <sturmflut_> ZacharyI123: AFAIK the necessary parts for Multi-Monitor support in Mir/Unity8 have not yet been merged into the phone images.
[11:51] <ZacharyI123> sturmflut_: is there any way I can get them manually? I am using stable, does devel-proposed have these?
[12:37] <bqphone> good day, any way telegram can send few messages together? without the need to click 1 by 1 by 1
[12:40] <bqphone> or can we send an album (which is made by gallery)?
[12:42] <sturmflut> ZacharyI123: Sorry for the delay. I don't know if all the necessary parts are present in any of the available images at all. mzanetti or ogra_ might know.
[12:43] <ZacharyI123> ok, hopefully they will pop up soon. I'd like to remind them I want to know how I can get a converged experience with an ubuntu touch n4 and a slimport adapter?
[12:43] <ZacharyI123> thanks anyway
[12:50] <sturmflut> ZacharyI123: Well, there will soon be a device with full Convergence, so everything has to be ready until then at least ;)
[12:52] <ZacharyI123> yeah everything should be pretty much there, lots of demos with nexus 7 at UOS that showed proper convergence with slimport
[12:52] <ZacharyI123> wondering how they did that and how I can with a nexus 4
[12:53] <ZacharyI123> convergence in action on n4 26/7/13 https://youtu.be/bk9-v8Sl4yU we must be able to redo that now somehow
[12:53] <popey> thats not ubuntu touch, that's ubuntu for android
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> popey: saw this one yet? http://news.softpedia.com/news/Meizu-to-Announce-Ubuntu-Phone-on-May-18-Rumour-481321.shtml
[12:59] <popey> yeah
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> lets hope its real this time
[13:00] <popey> this time?
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> there have been rumours before right
[13:02] <popey> from meizu?
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> yes
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> there have been meizu tweets in the past, saying its gonna release soon
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> oh well, we gonna see what happens
[13:04] <bqphone> well 18 may is in 2 days
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> yep :p
[13:04] <bqphone> any idea about the price?
[13:05] <bqphone> is it only for chinese market or for everyone?
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> it will be high-end for sure
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> and usa surely will be able to order
[13:06] <mariogrip> since awe is not online, maybe i can ask you rsalveti: any ideas what can cause radio_state == RADIO_STATE_UNAVAILABLE? (ofono: plugins/ril.c)
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> not sure about europe
[13:20] <popey> the rumours are fun :)
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> :p
[13:27] <talari> Hi. Anyone online who has experience porting to new devices?
[13:29] <mariogrip> talari: I am :)
[13:30] <talari> Great! I have been trying to port to Samsung S3 i9300, but keep getting stuck on the same make error.
[13:31] <mariogrip> what error are you getting?
[13:32] <talari> make complains about "no rule to make target" something ..R.stamp needed by something else. I am looking for the file where I saved it . Just a second...
[13:34] <sturmflut> popey: BTW, my App Store RSS feed seems to be polled by about 30 to 40 actual, unique users a day (I filter the Google/Bing crawlers out). That's a pretty nice number for a niche service that hasn't even been announced widely :)
[13:34] <popey> :)
[13:35] <talari> I couldn't find the file. I'm running make once more to reproduce the error now.
[13:36] <talari> make: *** No rule to make target '/home/ari/phablet/out/target/common/obj/APPS/framework-res_intermediates/src/R.stamp', needed by '/home/ari/phablet/out/target/common/obj/APPS/AdvancedDisplay_intermediates/src/R.stamp'.  Stop.
[13:39] <talari> mariogrip: Any ideas?
[13:39] <mariogrip> talari: it looks like it trying to make a "android app" that i'm pretty sure is not needed by ubuntu
[13:40] <mariogrip> a app called AdvancedDisplay
[13:40] <talari> OK. Does this mean I have to locate and remove the makefile for the app (or perhaps an entire directory)?
[13:41] <mariogrip> the directory, you can safely remove any java code
[13:43] <talari> Thanks for your help! I'll try this for my next run. Gotta go now... :)
[14:17] <t-ask> Is there a way to limit data transfer of each SIM card? Can I see the current broadband usage of each card somewhere?
[14:18] <t-ask> Can I change the color of the lock screen background circles to blue somewhere?
[14:21] <t-ask> Pressing SIM1 "unlock" opens PIN code pad with "Unlock SIM 2(!)"
[14:23] <t-ask> Changing SIM card on the fly without restarting the phone, doesn't open PIN input pad. Restarting the phone enables it as expected
[14:27] <t-ask> When Wifi and mobile data is enabled, I can't see an indicator that shows me when data is transferred from the top status bar.
[14:29] <t-ask> I guess, it's using Wifi, while the bq phone doesn't give feedback from the statusbar icons like an animated icon eg.
[16:00] <mandelbrot77> hello! I'm interested in having VPN working on UBUNTU phone.....
[16:01] <mandelbrot77> someone can give me an hint regarding this?
[16:02] <mandelbrot77> I have an Aquaris e4.5 ubuntu edition.
[16:14] <Sebsebsebb> Hi
[16:15] <Sebsebsebb> just tried to upgrade the ubuntu touch version from the default r16 on the bq ubuntu phone to the r22
[16:16] <Sebsebsebb> tried that quite a few times
[16:17] <Sebsebsebb> got it downloading like three times but then it does not install and get a message saying the system update failed
[16:18] <Sebsebsebb> there were some app updates to, but it seems to have installed those
[16:23] <thom_> hello. I am installing ubuntu on a nexus7 2013. Is ubuntu for devices the same thing as touch.?
[18:46] <faenil> mandelbrot77: I think you'll get more answers if you ask on Monday ;)
[18:47] <faenil> or you can try having a look at the ubuntu-phone mailing list, it probably already has something about vpn :)
[19:05] <anpok__> mandelbrot77: at the moment you would have to install openvpn on top.. there is no ui yet..
[19:05] <anpok__> (install with apt that is..)
[19:35] <Drew_Neilson> Hi everyone, I have a question.  Is the latest stable version of Ubuntu Touch currently the same version as the desktop stable version of Ubuntu?
[20:20] <redux_000> Hello, are information about Nexus compatibility up-to-date on this site? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[20:20] <redux_000> More specifically asking about Nexus 5
[20:24] <sturmflut> redux_000: The Nexus 5 is no longer officially supported
[20:28] <redux_000> Aww that's a pity, thanks for information though sturmflut
[21:13] <sturmflut> I think I can say it now: bq will apparently ship a second Ubuntu device, the Aquaris E5, and the MX4 will "soon" be shipped to Ubuntu Insiders.
[21:42] <Drew_Neilson> sturmflut do you have a link with this information?
[21:45] <sturmflut> Drew_Neilson: http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/16/the-other-bq-ubuntu-phone/ and https://plus.google.com/115563650741463848565/posts/BMS8QUMdFuv
[21:53] <OerHeks> else https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E5
[21:53] <Drew_Neilson> sturmflut do a Google search for ["vegetahd"] (include the quotation marks) and you'll see several links referencing an "E5"
[21:58] <DonkeyHotei> will the number of results be over 9000?
[22:00] <OerHeks> wild guess: it depends on quotationmarks, DonkeyHotei
[22:00] <dobey> sturmflut: the nexus 5 was never officially supported
[22:34] <sturmflut> To the people who apparently shouted my nickname when they were asked about who should be among the first in the world to get an Ubuntu MX4: I feel like some kind of Internet hero, and you can expect a lot of awesome things once the phone is on my desk :)
[22:47] <Benno-007> sturmflut: :D By the way, hard reset of the BQ is done well by power for 20 seconds. Power + Vol- is for 30s is not necessary. But thanks for the hint in your notes!
[22:47] <sturmflut> Benno-007: Oh, I have to write this down and correct the article!
[22:47] <Benno-007> Both is correct working.
[22:48] <sturmflut> Benno-007: Sure, but why make it more complicated than it is
[22:48] <sturmflut> Benno-007: Any wishes for future articles?
[22:49] <nicomen_> if you just buy an aquaris e5 can't you install an ubuntu kernel on it?
[22:50] <sturmflut> nicomen_: No, you have to use a tool by the manufacturer (MediaTek) to change a couple of things at the core of the phone. Android and Ubuntu Touch are too different.
[22:51] <nicomen_> like bios stuff?
[22:51] <nicomen_> or hardware or what?
[22:51] <sturmflut> nicomen_: Mostly stuff on the internal flash, partition layout and such
[22:52] <nicomen_> oh
[22:53] <nicomen_> but it's not a ROM flash right?
[22:54] <sturmflut> nicomen_: I think it also writes some stuff that is "usually" not writeable, like not accessible via fastboot
[22:54] <Benno-007> sturmflut: Your found factory mode comes up with Vol- only, too. And the boot menü without power, too: There is only needed Vol+ when the red led starts to light. It's simpler to remember.
[22:54] <sturmflut> Benno-007: *scrible*
[22:56] <Benno-007> One find out and another makes it simpler. ;)
[22:59] <Benno-007> I've not tested if the red led is needed for both cases or case 1 or no case. I thought other things are more important. But when you correct this maybe a little check and uniform description is better. So, I'll test it now.
[23:00] <Benno-007> Unfortunately there is no radio channel on the three frequencies in factory mode. ;)
[23:14] <Benno-007> sturmflut: Oh my god I cannot reproduse it for now. :D I think: We have to wait for the red led in both cases. But then you can release the power button before vol+ or vol- is pressed. But my problem is now: I don't get the red led at all. Maybe something has chanced and your method is more valid. My old notes worked for me before some time and vol- at friday.
[23:19] <sturmflut> Benno-007: I think I need to find the responsible code at some time and just look at what buttons it actually polls. Might be the stuff for a future article, if I can find this out, the possibilities are endless.
[23:26] <Benno-007> sturmflut: Yes, it was only a beside note for talking and not so much for real work at this stuff. We all here will let you know if new articles are on our wishlists. ;) Maybe how to get the adb shell in factory mode exactly. I got none even with sudo. I'm not sure on which partition this mode resides if I will need recovery and a adb shell from factory mode (and not from recovery mode standard image). So this partition must be protected of manipu
[23:26] <mekhami> hey folks. anyone have experience putting the mobile os on a galaxy note 4?
[23:29] <sturmflut> Benno-007: Well, there are much more partitions than tit seems to be necessary, and there are about 765 megabytes "missing" from the partition table, so there is enough space to hide things in.
[23:29] <sturmflut> s/tit/it/
[23:31] <sturmflut> Benno-007: I already have an idea... let me look at it tomorrow
[23:41] <Benno-007> sturmflut: I've have both, original images from partitions and whole device, too. But some little partitions are redundant for security I think, such as boot. Same UUID but I didn't check exactly if it is the boot partition but this would make sense and it was small and in a emulator I killed 10 MB of the device with dd for testing and run in a initramfs bash builtin. Then ok. We will see what the time brings.
[23:46] <sturmflut> Benno-007: I think I have to disect the whole boot order, like which parts run in which order at what time in which mode, at some point. It is already on my list. I want to get to the point where we control as much of the device as possible.
[23:47] <Benno-007> Good thing. Needs much time.
[23:53] <Benno-007> sturmflut: By the way power was now really not enough to leave fastboot mode (without cable). All keys for only about 5s worked. But my red light really was not blinking in the last test to get into the boot menu. normally it should be: pressing power + vol+ until the red light is flashing and then release. now it was: ...releasing it without red light, so I got into the boot menu but it scrolled up until I released then, of course. Maybe my devic