[05:12] morning barrydk and others [08:29] load shaeeding huh === MaNI2 is now known as MaNI [08:46] helloooo Kilos [08:46] hi there inetpro [08:47] oh and good mornings to everyone else [08:47] lol i enjoyed that [08:47] ;-) [08:49] :-D [08:50] (^_-) [08:50] ;-) [08:50] :-P [08:51] no man i cant remember them all [08:51] hehe [08:59] was saving for a ssd but decided to get a d-link 157 instead [09:00] 3 times faster than the 156 i have [09:03] inetpro https://www.telkommobile.co.za/internet-starter-pack/ [09:03] can you explain what it says you get on the right of the modem please [09:04] oh nm i woke up [11:44] inetpro something wrong with your g+ post http://bit.ly/1EM8HPp [11:52] Kilos: nothing wrong there [11:55] oh and Kilos, you want yet another Telkom starter pack? [11:55] why? [11:55] 3 times faster [11:55] and what is so difficult to understand on that page? [11:55] ive tried that link three times [11:56] Kilos: have you tried with a decent browser? [11:56] nono i missed the 512 x !@ after the 6g [11:56] lol [11:58] opera and chrome cannot open it from here [11:58] Kilos: what do you get? [11:58] web page unavailable [11:59] Opera could not load the webpage because www.databook.bz took too long to respond. The website may be down, or you may be experiencing issues with your internet connection. [11:59] lemme see what chrome says [11:59] and that now becomes my fault? [11:59] ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT [12:00] yes bad link [12:00] fix it [12:00] works for me [12:00] sigh with ff i spose [12:00] ok ill reinstall it [12:01] ai! [12:01] works for me on FF and on Chrome [12:01] oh my [12:01] how on earth do you get to the conclusion that a reinstall will help? [12:03] no man i uninstalled it [12:03] it tries to take over here [12:03] ai! [12:05] how about trying the default browser? [12:06] you also uninstalled that? [12:06] what is that [12:06] i love opera man , i can close it and open tomorrow and all 40 links open' [12:07] chrome i have to shutdown with it open then hit restore tomorrow [12:07] fact is, the problem is not even your browser [12:08] sounds more like your connection ebing the problem [12:08] ff can open it either seems like [12:08] how about trying to reset your connection [12:08] where is maaz [12:09] ai! You killed him? [12:09] nono not me [12:09] crashkid gone too [12:09] oh my [12:10] tell me what the reason is for disabling those things [12:10] nepomuk and friends [12:12] Kilos: what version are you using? [12:12] Kubuntu 14.04? [12:12] yessir [12:13] Kilos: https://www.google.com/search?q=disable+akonadi+kubuntu+14.04 [12:18] go reset your connection and try opening my posting again... it explains it better than most others [12:18] oh it slows things down [12:18] i can see the last link [12:18] see i need a faster modem [12:19] lemme remove and replace the modem [12:19] in Kubuntu 15.04 Baloo and Akonadi used way too much resources on my machine [12:19] oh [12:19] I don't need any of the two, hence me searching for a way to disable [12:20] Baloo indexing can easily be turned off in settings now [12:20] wbb dont go away [12:21] did you reboot so quickly? [12:22] nono just restarted modem [12:22] does the link open now? [12:22] no [12:22] reboot [12:22] ok [12:22] wbb [12:25] hmm... [12:25] does the link open now? [12:25] this isnt windows [12:25] haha :-) [12:25] does the link open now? [12:26] ya [12:26] what was wrong [12:26] * inetpro rests his case [12:26] it opened in fox grrr [12:26] and opera? [12:26] i told you fox takes over [12:26] why? [12:27] because you allow it to take over, that is why [12:27] just remving it again [12:27] Kilos: go sit in the driving seat and take control [12:27] why remove it? [12:28] then i dont have to find out how to stop it taking over [12:28] I didn't uninstall Baloo or Akonadi [12:28] opera sees that link fine ty [12:28] must be a decent browser [12:29] oom Kilos, that was a joke man :-) [12:29] lol [12:29] * inetpro knew he would fall for it [12:29] thats why you took my sjambok [12:30] so you can be cheeky and not feel the consequences [12:30] Kilos: please define, "fox takes over" [12:31] if i tick a link it email, ff opens even when opera is the default browser [12:32] s/it/in [12:32] anyway inetpro nepomuk wasnt a prob with 14.04 was it? [12:34] Kilos: I can't remember [12:34] lol [12:34] ol dman [12:34] old man [12:34] nepomuk is not a problem in 15.04 any more [12:35] oh you fixed it [12:36] Kilos: important thing to figure out is to know all the processes that are actively running on your machine [12:36] press Ctrl+Esc [12:36] no thats kde's job [12:37] well ideally you want to know [12:37] you want to at least know, what is it that is eating your memory and your CPU [12:37] whew lotsa stuff but clamav uses most [12:38] disable clamav [12:38] ok [12:38] it's pointless to keep it running [12:38] just use it when you need it [12:38] ya i only use it for other drives [12:39] so now, in stead of wasting your time immediately focussing on clamav, just make a note [12:39] Note 1: Find out how to disable clamav [12:40] next? [12:40] ai! [12:40] we lost him already? [12:40] im looing [12:40] looking [12:41] cant find a disable thing yet [12:41] Kilos: RTFS above please [12:41] yes im seeing if it has a disable button [12:41] then ill google [12:41] it doesn't [12:41] then ill ask you [12:42] Kilos: in stead of wasting your time immediately focussing on clamav, just make a note [12:42] i just remove things normally [12:42] ai! [12:42] stubborn is what stubborn is [12:43] how did we get here and what did you try to achieve? [12:43] we looking whats using memory [12:43] exactly, don't forget the bigger picture! [12:43] Kilos: and CPU [12:43] yes boss [12:44] Kilos: sometimes it takes days or weeks to figure it out [12:44] xorg 4 % and opera 5% [12:45] not much you can do about those [12:45] and konversation 2% on and off [12:45] not nothing but also not much [12:45] thats min [12:46] ill worry when something uses 50% [12:46] where can i see a total for cpu usage [12:47] click on the column to sort [12:47] but no totals [12:47] krunner uses 2% now and again too [12:48] obviously [12:48] why [12:48] uh!? [12:48] because it's not magic [12:48] hee hee hee [12:49] i dont think i have a prob [12:50] in that case just forget about akonadi and friends [12:50] ok [12:51] and go figure how to disable clamav [12:51] ill remove it man and install if and when needed [12:52] NOTE: no need to uninstall [12:52] obviously [12:52] lol see im learning [12:53] sudo /etc/init.d/clamav-daemon status [12:53] sudo /etc/init.d/clamav-daemon stop [12:53] ty inetpro [12:53] my friend [12:53] hmm... [12:54] Kilos: what is she doing here? [12:54] helping out till maaz comes back [12:55] Kilos: sudo /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam status [12:55] and if running... stop it [12:55] i did with the top command [12:55] uh, really? [12:55] oh my [12:56] freshclam still going [12:57] ty thats stopped as well now [12:58] Kilos: you like using a hammer for everything? [12:59] lol [12:59] easier to use a hammer, less memory used [13:04] yay my new modem is here [13:05] Kilos: what did you get and for how much? [13:06] https://www.telkommobile.co.za/internet-starter-pack/ [13:06] there where you looked for R549 [13:06] iirc it can do 23mb/s [13:06] sjoe [13:06] 6GB Anytime data(512MB PM X 12)? [13:07] old one was 7.2 mb/s [13:07] they give you 512 meg free data monthly for a year [13:12] ohi superfly how are you all? [13:14] Kilos: hmm... that's about 9c per MB [13:15] is that bad? [13:16] also the 157 is stronger than the 156, the 157 picks up signal where the 156 doesnt [13:16] R249 for the same amount of data is 4c per MB, that means you pay about 5c perMB for the modem [13:17] aha [13:17] * inetpro hasn't seen Kilos loosing a lot of connection here lately [13:17] apart from with power issues [13:18] no the old one is good [13:18] but new one is faster [13:19] fast means more data usage in less time [13:19] yes but also less time waiting for big updates [13:20] ai! [13:20] and faster opening of web pages i hope [13:21] im a busy man you know [13:21] hehe [13:22] looks like you like sitting there and watching the data while it's downloading [13:22] now i can rev telkom for faster connection, before modem was too slow [13:22] remember, a watched pot never boils [13:22] i always watch it [13:23] its interesting [13:23] i watch the whole install process as well [13:24] hi octoquad [13:24] Kilos: you should read this: http://www.linux.org.za/Lists-Archives/glug-9707/msg00058.html [13:24] ok [13:25] Dr Evan Summers on Monday 21 Jul 1997, Personally I find the web overrated! Although it is [13:25] _very_ useful at times, but that's about 2 minutes per month for me... [13:25] old records on the GLUG mailing list [13:25] i have to go see all the links you give [13:26] 2 mins is fine for emails [13:26] and googling the time [13:26] i have all those wiki pages to see [13:27] some fascinating reading there [13:27] 2 new applicants on the first thursday of next month [13:29] greetings :) [13:29] hi octoquad [13:29] * inetpro wbb [13:30] inetpro, got json prettifying working in trello-snapshot, will put out a new release next week. Have some small problems detecting a required dependency (jq) at the moment, but works well ;) [13:31] cool [14:03] hi Kilos [14:03] hi guys [14:03] hi inetpro [14:03] hi Squirm [14:03] hi superfly [14:04] h, ThatGraemeGuy: [14:08] hi arnaudmez [14:09] What's on the desk today ? [14:09] not much i think [14:10] looking at http://www.databook.bz/?page_id=3728 [14:10] Clean [14:11] i'm busy looking for a full Lnx training program [14:11] a sample just to het myself inspired [14:11] lol [14:11] can't find it on the web [14:11] Terminal Linux 101 [14:12] http://training.linuxfoundation.org/free-linux-training [14:12] have you looked there? [14:12] QA google full linux training program to download [14:12] Kilos: "Learn For Free - Linux Foundation Training" http://training.linuxfoundation.org/free-linux-training :: "The Complete Beginner's Guide to Linux | Linux.com" https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/784060-the-complete-beginners-guide-to-linux :: "Linux Training From the Linux Foundation | Linux.com" http://www.linux.com/learn/linux-training-program-and-classes :: "Desktop | Linux.com" http://www.linux.com/directory/Distribu… [14:13] nope but jumping there now, in fact I'm just looking for a page that explain what is Terminal Linux 101 made of [14:14] https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/306766:linux-101-introduction-to-sudo [14:24] I've found nice videos on youtube (nixie pixel on Command line 101) [14:24] good [14:25] there must be lots of info out there [14:26] QA google Terminal Linux 101 training program [14:26] Kilos: "Linux 101: Introduction to sudo | Linux.com" https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/306766:linux-101-introduction-to-sudo :: "Learn Linux, 101: The Linux command line - IBM" http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-lpic1-v3-103-1/ :: "UNIX / Linux Tutorial for Beginners" http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ :: "LinuxCommand.org: Learning the shell." http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php :: "LinuxCommand.… [16:15] Hello everyone! [16:15] Ohi [16:15] hi Mopkop wb young man [16:16] Thank you! Finally finished with the semester! So What did I miss? [16:17] hmm... i forget [16:17] lots i think [16:17] I'll check trello... [16:18] even trello has been slack [16:23] I see. Nevermind then, I'm sure I'll catch on sooner enought. [16:24] im trying to remember, you been gone a long time [16:32] Oh, got to relog. Just broke compiz :( [16:33] That's better... [16:33] lol [16:33] Anyway, did we get any new members? [16:33] only um [16:34] cutting edge i think [16:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Members#preview [16:38] Oh, and how is that documentation project going? [16:51] wb cocooncrash [16:51] Maaz: wb [16:51] Thank you so much inetpro my good good friend [16:52] lol [16:52] Kilos: ^^ [16:55] Maaz: ping [16:55] cocooncrash: pong [17:00] Maaz wb [17:00] Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend [17:00] hi cocooncrash [17:00] wb to you too [17:11] oh Mopkop i dont know how far jacques and walter have got, jacques has it working online so now its for peeps to jump in [17:13] there was a link to it in the mailing list [17:44] oh and wb Mopkop [17:44] Hello inetpro! [17:44] good to see you back here [17:45] hehe [17:45] at least one more peep to keep Kilos awake [17:45] hehe you tired old man? been hard on you hey [17:45] exactly [17:45] now I can go sleep :-) [17:46] Lol. [17:46] i must send that mail, it keeps growing [17:46] yikes Kilos! [17:46] don't hold back like that [17:46] * inetpro don't know you like this [17:47] haha [17:47] im trying to cover all bases [17:49] ai! [17:49] uh oh [17:49] why ai! [17:50] * inetpro has seen those words somewhere before [17:50] lol [17:51] coming back to me like a boomerang [17:51] there is more now [17:51] Kilos: "trying to cover all bases" <--- those words [17:51] oh [17:52] didn't I say that the other day? [17:52] i dunno [17:52] :-) [17:52] if you did then you must be glad i remembered something [18:46] good evening [18:48] Good evening magespawn! [18:49] hi Mopkop [18:56] hi magespawn [18:57] hey Kilos [19:39] hmm... [19:40] Maaz hmmm [19:40] magespawn: Sorry... [19:40] haha [19:41] lol [19:41] Maaz define hmmm [19:41] magespawn: I don't know about hmmm. Maybe you meant hmmp or hmms? [19:41] Maaz define hmms [19:41] magespawn: HMMS HyperMedia Management Schema (MS, Intel, Cisco, WWW) [19:41] you are miss speeling it [19:41] wow learn something new everyday [19:41] spelling [19:41] Maaz hmm [19:41] hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking [19:41] i did not know hmmm had a correct spelling [19:42] ya it has hmm [19:42] lol [20:04] so whats news? [20:04] besides hmm [20:04] * Kilos thinks [20:05] good evening magespawn [20:07] Had a minor tiff on teh intarwebs with some Kenyan companies who violate the GPL. [20:07] Now I'm mobilizing people to write blog posts and raise awareness. [20:07] stickyboy whew [20:08] hi inetpro stickyboy [20:09] stickyboy: links? [20:10] magespawn: It startd with this summary of Nairobi LUG's May meetup: https://nairobilug.or.ke/2015/05/meetup-may-2015.html [20:11] Then one of our members poked this company, BRCK, who denied they were in violation: https://twitter.com/jrogena/status/599139436589232128 [20:12] (This company makes and sells an OpenWRT-based router called BRCK, and OpenWRT of course is a GNU/Linux distro for embedded systems) [20:20] i must sleep now. night all. sleep tight [20:21] stickyboy: they should at least be given a chance to reply [20:24] and who should handle an official complaint? EFF ? GNU? [20:29] magespawn: We had emailed them privately 1 week ago and got no response. [20:29] Then, after this tweet, we instantly got a reply. [20:30] Their CTO says, "We use unmodified OpenWRT source so we don't need to publish code". [20:30] Cowering behind a technicality of the GPL. Shame. [20:31] I'm currently writing a blog post called "Carrots, sticks, and the spirit of the law" [20:31] I'll post it here when it's done. :P [20:46] cool beans, i will follow along with interest [20:47] bed time for me, good night all [22:30] Good morning [22:32] mornin gremble [22:33] Hey kulelu88 [22:33] How are you? [22:33] good good and you [22:34] I am doing well thank you [22:35] you normally sleep early gremble [22:35] Using chalk dries out your hands like a shriveled raisin [22:35] are you studying? [22:35] Yes I am. [22:36] Taking a break actually to do some haskell [22:36] Writing calculus on Wednesday haha [22:36] first semester exam? [22:36] Second semester test [22:36] Exams start in a few weeks [22:36] oh ja, not yet June [22:36] like literally two I think [22:37] all the beer-drinking, partying and drugs will slow down around this time [22:37] Drugs won't haha they'll only change. People change from ecstacy to ritalin :P [22:39] I don't know where the drugden at tuks is though . Maybe it's a res thing [22:40] I don't know either. I am fairly solitary :P [22:40] haskell is your current drug [22:40] Haha. and Tea [22:41] I drink so much tea [22:41] haha [22:41] normal tea? [22:43] Yup. Five roses with milk and sugar [22:43] milk and sugar???? You probably fancy some indian girl ehh [22:45] Well.. there is this one good looking on in my statistics class [22:45] :P [22:45] ehh and you're looking too. what's her name? [22:46] Haha I have no idea. [22:46] Like I said, solitary. [22:48] oh. you kinda remind me of the guy who would borrow the girl his pencil but never strike up a convo with her :D [22:48] I am not shy. I would probably chat. [22:49]