[00:49] <mup> Bug #1455840 was opened: network-bridge compatibility with Open vSwitch <network> <openvswitch> <ovs> <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1455840>
[21:27] <davecheney> mwhudson: do arm put "superceeded" on the background of every page unconditionally
[21:28] <davecheney> or are there actually some pages they have not yet depricated ?
[21:28] <mwhudson> davecheney: heh
[21:28] <mwhudson> davecheney: only the pages that have been around long enough to be found by google, i think
[21:28] <mwhudson> there will be a version that does not have superceded written on
[21:28] <mwhudson> but it can be pretty hard to find
[23:32] <davecheney> mwhudson: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11193890/
[23:32] <davecheney> sad NEON is sad
[23:34] <mwhudson> fun times
[23:34] <davecheney> for limited values of fun
[23:34] <mwhudson> is there no neon at all?
[23:35] <davecheney> my guess is it's disabled in the kernel
[23:35] <davecheney> is that a thing ?
[23:35] <davecheney> model name	: ARMv7 Processor rev 10 (v7l)
[23:35] <davecheney> BogoMIPS	: 790.52
[23:35] <davecheney> Features	: swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3 tls vfpd32
[23:35] <davecheney> compared to my freescale imx6
[23:36] <mwhudson> oh yeah, no noen in features
[23:36] <mwhudson> *neon
[23:36] <davecheney> but is that something you can disable in ther kernel
[23:36] <davecheney> or does their SoC not have that feature ?
[23:36] <mwhudson> it is also something you can not include the silicon for
[23:36] <mwhudson> no idea, i don't know much about marvell designs
[23:36] <davecheney> as in , it's not optional in cortex-A ?
[23:38] <mwhudson> not sure about the answer to that specific question
[23:38] <mwhudson> it's optional in armv7
[23:40]  * mwhudson asks @scaleway on twitter
[23:42] <mwhudson> ... and people ask why arm hasn't taken over the data centre
[23:44] <davecheney> mwhudson: i also dm'd the guy
[23:44] <davecheney> we'll see what happens
[23:44] <mwhudson> cool
[23:44] <davecheney> i'd be amazed that
[23:44] <davecheney> a. they go their own silicon, rather than just taking a marvell or freescale soc
[23:44] <mwhudson> i guess 2am on monday morning is not a good time to expect quick replies
[23:44] <mwhudson> it's a slightly custom marvell part
[23:44] <davecheney> o_O!
[23:44] <davecheney> why do people do things like this
[23:44] <mwhudson> i did manage to dig that out of their site
[23:45] <mwhudson> "We developed with Marvell a Cortex A9 ARM SoC offering excellent performances for web applications."
[23:45] <mwhudson> https://www.scaleway.com/faq/server#why-did-you-choose-arm-
[23:46] <davecheney> blah blah
[23:46] <mwhudson> it's also hinted at in the cpuinfo
[23:46] <mwhudson> Processor       : Marvell PJ4Bv7 Processor rev 2 (v7l)
[23:46] <davecheney> the number of things you can tweak on a custom silicon that actually make a difference
[23:46] <davecheney> are effectively zero
[23:46] <mwhudson> it's probably just form factor or something
[23:47] <mwhudson> cortex a9 means it's arm's design for the actual cpu bit
[23:47] <mwhudson> s
[23:47] <davecheney> yeah
[23:47] <davecheney> oh
[23:47] <davecheney> a9
[23:47] <davecheney> booh
[23:49] <mwhudson> although it's always possible that scaleway's marketing material is using the terms wrong :)
[23:49] <davecheney> inconceivable
[23:56] <mwhudson> the hints i see around the net sort of imply that they are
[23:57] <mwhudson> i _think_ it's based on the armada 370, which is not a cortex a9
[23:57] <mwhudson> and does not have neon
[23:57] <mwhudson> (and i think cortex a9s always do have neon)
[23:57] <davecheney> yeah, looks like armada 370
[23:57] <davecheney> that is oooooooooooooold
[23:57] <mwhudson> yeah
[23:58] <mwhudson> at least it has better IO than a panda :)
[23:58] <davecheney> how they got a 4 core version of that is a great mistery
[23:58] <davecheney> a yugo has better io than a pandaboard
[23:58] <mwhudson> oh yeah
[23:58] <mwhudson> cortex a9 is also dual core
[23:59] <mwhudson> oh no, 1-4
[23:59] <mwhudson> lying there
[23:59] <mwhudson> ah, and neon is optional
[23:59] <mwhudson> specifications on http://www.arm.com/cortex-a9.php