| _Groo_ | in the meantime , im using blueman, it works so... but i would rather have the entire kf5 bluetooth stack working | 00:37 |
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| Etriaph | _Groo_: In time | 00:42 |
| _Groo_ | Etriaph: kde gives kde takes away | 00:43 |
| Etriaph | _Groo_: I think the KF5 structure will likely continue as a staple in later versions. It's progress, and sometimes progress is messy. | 00:44 |
| Etriaph | _Groo_: I've been working on an open letter related to topics like this, hope to put it out there in the next few weeks. | 00:44 |
| _Groo_ | Etriaph: well its not kubuntu fault anyway, ubuntu touch team screwed up on this one | 00:48 |
| _Groo_ | Etriaph: i hope things dont get worse once kf5 fully migrates to wayland | 00:49 |
| Etriaph | _Groo_: Right now app stability and migration, along with any bugs in KF5, are likely where the focus is. It's hard migrating between major versions, just the reality of it. | 01:02 |
| vip | hi ho | 08:18 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:04 |
| === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun | ||
| === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun | ||
| ahoneybun | something is wrong with this damn thing | 17:10 |
| * ahoneybun just notice that Oxygen Font is the default :) | 17:11 | |
| KDDA | what is wrong ahoneybun | 17:31 |
| ahoneybun | KDDA: I installed the nonfree nvidia driver, rebooted - fine | 17:32 |
| ahoneybun | turned one a setting about font in System setting, reboot - fine | 17:33 |
| ahoneybun | anti-aliaing - enabled, reboot -fine | 17:33 |
| ahoneybun | anti-aliaing -enabled and forced DPI on caused nothing but a black screen for like 3 or 4 reboots | 17:33 |
| ahoneybun | no login, I saw the systemd version but nothing after that | 17:34 |
| ahoneybun | just got back in a few mins ago | 17:34 |
| KDDA | I have a nvidia card too | 17:34 |
| KDDA | hate it | 17:34 |
| ahoneybun | it could be that I need that special setup | 17:35 |
| ahoneybun | I have intel and nvidia | 17:35 |
| ahoneybun | bumblee bee | 17:35 |
| ahoneybun | rather have it over AMD some days though | 17:35 |
| KDDA | although the nvidia driver with kubuntu seems to be working ok | 17:35 |
| ahoneybun | I was so close to installing Ubuntu to see if the problem is just Kubuntu | 17:36 |
| KDDA | these video meetings you guys do, are they a regular thing? | 17:36 |
| KDDA | Unity??!? Nooooo | 17:36 |
| yofel | if you don't see sddm, you should look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log really | 17:36 |
| ahoneybun | KDDA: talk to ovidiu-florin about that, we usually do it when he is avaiable but I'm sure you would be very welcomed to join | 17:37 |
| ahoneybun | also Unity is not that bad once 14.04 was released | 17:38 |
| * ahoneybun see that there is a Capcom sale on steam, but his wallet is safe as none work on Linux | 17:38 | |
| yofel | KDDA: we usually only do such a meeting once shortly after release to talk about the next one | 17:38 |
| KDDA | just wondering what time it usually is | 17:38 |
| yofel | either part of vUDS, or around it | 17:39 |
| ahoneybun | seems kwallet thinks my password is wrong | 17:53 |
| ahoneybun | yet I just put it in for my wifi password | 17:53 |
| * ahoneybun throws kwallet out a window | 17:54 | |
| * yofel gathers the pieces and throws them on his other broken kwallets | 17:55 | |
| KDDA | yofel are you a dev? | 17:56 |
| yofel | yes | 17:56 |
| * ahoneybun remembers in KDE4 when kwallet worked well | 17:56 | |
| yofel | in kde4 it at least didn't *repeatedly* asked you to open the same damn wallet | 17:57 |
| KDDA | what do you use kwallet for? | 17:57 |
| yofel | whatever asks for it, ie. kded, owncloud, chromium, ... | 17:58 |
| ahoneybun | storing passwords | 17:58 |
| KDDA | oh | 17:58 |
| yofel | right ^ | 17:58 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: is it normal that kdepasswd to not be installed? | 17:58 |
| yofel | not sure | 17:59 |
| * yofel checks the manifest | 17:59 | |
| yofel | ahoneybun: yes | 18:00 |
| yofel | now whether that's good I don't know | 18:00 |
| ahoneybun | so we provide no GUI way to change the user password then | 18:00 |
| ahoneybun | I would think that is not good | 18:00 |
| yofel | doesn't user-manager do that? | 18:00 |
| ahoneybun | from the system settings | 18:01 |
| KDDA | I never used it, mostly LastPass | 18:01 |
| yofel | yeah it does, that kaccount has a useless button is bad though :/ | 18:01 |
| yofel | I do remember someone talking about that a while ago though... | 18:02 |
| ahoneybun | yea Im talking about "Password and User Account" | 18:02 |
| ahoneybun | then there is User Manager that has a password option | 18:02 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: Riddell valorie https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual | 18:03 |
| blaze | are there users of Wily? | 18:03 |
| * ahoneybun starts playing PA | 18:05 | |
| KDDA | Im on 15.10 | 18:06 |
| ahoneybun | what is the default username and pass on a live cd/dvd? | 19:30 |
| ahoneybun | got it | 19:31 |
| Etriaph | http://askubuntu.com/questions/103896/live-cd-asks-for-a-username-and-password | 19:31 |
| Etriaph | :D | 19:31 |
| ahoneybun | thanks | 19:31 |
| Etriaph | np | 19:31 |
| ahoneybun | Etriaph: I'm trying to find out why the right click does not work on Ubuntu | 19:32 |
| ahoneybun | and Kubunt | 19:32 |
| Etriaph | On your mouse? | 19:32 |
| ahoneybun | laptop | 19:32 |
| ahoneybun | trackpad/touchpad | 19:32 |
| Etriaph | Ah, ya, I'm mostly desktop only. | 19:32 |
| ahoneybun | so it would be synaptics I thiink | 19:32 |
| Etriaph | I think my laptop is running 12.04 or something | 19:32 |
| ahoneybun | just need to know where the conf file is and stiff | 19:33 |
| ahoneybun | *stuff | 19:33 |
| ahoneybun | so | 19:34 |
| ahoneybun | 'xinput list' says cannot connect to X server | 19:34 |
| Etriaph | And you're connected? | 19:34 |
| Etriaph | Your user session I mean? | 19:34 |
| ahoneybun | well | 19:36 |
| ahoneybun | with the right click not working I had to jump into a tty | 19:36 |
| yofel | try "export DISPLAY=:0", then xinput might work | 19:37 |
| ahoneybun | that did it yofel thanks | 19:38 |
| ahoneybun | I see the TouchPad on there | 19:39 |
| ahoneybun | so reading from this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Configuration_on_the_fly : the device shows a left and right button | 19:41 |
| ahoneybun | yofel: Etriaph http://askubuntu.com/questions/579645/right-click-on-synaptic-touchpad-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-10 : this worked in the live iso so I'm going to try it in the installed version now | 19:47 |
| Etriaph | Interesting. | 19:47 |
| Etriaph | ahoneybun: Did you have to manually configure it? | 19:49 |
| ahoneybun | Etriaph: what might be causing this is this laptop has 2 right and 2 left button | 19:49 |
| ahoneybun | Etriaph: as in? | 19:49 |
| ahoneybun | wtf now the right click works fine | 19:49 |
| Etriaph | ahoneybun: Did you have to add anything to xorg.conf? | 19:49 |
| Etriaph | Or synaptics config file? | 19:49 |
| ahoneybun | Etriaph: yea what the guide said | 19:49 |
| Etriaph | *nods* | 19:50 |
| ahoneybun | now the right click is gone | 19:50 |
| ahoneybun | works when you boot, then it goes away | 19:50 |
| Etriaph | kcm-touchpad was replaced with what? | 19:51 |
| ahoneybun | no clue | 19:52 |
| Etriaph | Oh it's *still* in it | 19:52 |
| Etriaph | Vivid I mean | 19:53 |
| Etriaph | Arch has a package we don't | 19:53 |
| Etriaph | kcm-touchpad-frameworks | 19:53 |
| Etriaph | I would imagine kcm-touchpad is legacy for v4 apps | 19:53 |
| yofel | we have kde-config-touchpad which is part of plasma(5)-desktop | 19:54 |
| ahoneybun | opps I mean left click | 19:54 |
| Etriaph | yofel: And is that just for the cursor pad, or does that include the buttons? | 19:54 |
| yofel | no idea, I never had to configure the *buttons* | 19:55 |
| Etriaph | I try to gather solutions for problems so I can help folks in #kubuntu from time to time. | 19:55 |
| yofel | well, I had on my work thinkpad, but that requires xorg.conf meddling to properly work | 19:55 |
| Etriaph | Ah. I'm a desktop person mostly. | 19:55 |
| Etriaph | I should try 15.04 on my laptop and see how it goes. | 19:55 |
| yofel | that T440 has all buttons emulated on one huge touchpad, which is a PITA | 19:56 |
| Etriaph | It's probably failure prone depending on the wiring in there :D | 19:57 |
| Etriaph | bbiab, more coffee required | 19:57 |
| ahoneybun | Etriaph: it seems if I switch to a tty, then back to the deskop the left and right buttons work | 20:45 |
| Etriaph | ahoneybun: Maybe they are reinitialized when returning to the X.org display server. | 20:54 |
| Etriaph | ahoneybun: If that were true, either they hang while in memory or they get put to sleep. Are you actively typing/working with the laptop when they stop working? | 20:55 |
| Etriaph | I'm burning a disk with K3B and KSysGuard doesn't report any IO on the device. | 21:10 |
| Etriaph | Broken sensor for sr0? | 21:11 |
| ahoneybun | not that I know of Etriaph | 21:16 |
| ahoneybun | bbl | 21:16 |
| soee_ | sgclark: do you plan to backport apps ? | 22:11 |
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