[00:37] <_Groo_> in the meantime , im using blueman, it works so... but i would rather have the entire kf5 bluetooth stack working [00:42] _Groo_: In time [00:43] <_Groo_> Etriaph: kde gives kde takes away [00:44] _Groo_: I think the KF5 structure will likely continue as a staple in later versions. It's progress, and sometimes progress is messy. [00:44] _Groo_: I've been working on an open letter related to topics like this, hope to put it out there in the next few weeks. [00:48] <_Groo_> Etriaph: well its not kubuntu fault anyway, ubuntu touch team screwed up on this one [00:49] <_Groo_> Etriaph: i hope things dont get worse once kf5 fully migrates to wayland [01:02] _Groo_: Right now app stability and migration, along with any bugs in KF5, are likely where the focus is. It's hard migrating between major versions, just the reality of it. [08:18] hi ho [11:04] Hiyas all === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun === aaron__ is now known as ahoneybun [17:10] something is wrong with this damn thing [17:11] * ahoneybun just notice that Oxygen Font is the default :) [17:31] what is wrong ahoneybun [17:32] KDDA: I installed the nonfree nvidia driver, rebooted - fine [17:33] turned one a setting about font in System setting, reboot - fine [17:33] anti-aliaing - enabled, reboot -fine [17:33] anti-aliaing -enabled and forced DPI on caused nothing but a black screen for like 3 or 4 reboots [17:34] no login, I saw the systemd version but nothing after that [17:34] just got back in a few mins ago [17:34] I have a nvidia card too [17:34] hate it [17:35] it could be that I need that special setup [17:35] I have intel and nvidia [17:35] bumblee bee [17:35] rather have it over AMD some days though [17:35] although the nvidia driver with kubuntu seems to be working ok [17:36] I was so close to installing Ubuntu to see if the problem is just Kubuntu [17:36] these video meetings you guys do, are they a regular thing? [17:36] Unity??!? Nooooo [17:36] if you don't see sddm, you should look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log really [17:37] KDDA: talk to ovidiu-florin about that, we usually do it when he is avaiable but I'm sure you would be very welcomed to join [17:38] also Unity is not that bad once 14.04 was released [17:38] * ahoneybun see that there is a Capcom sale on steam, but his wallet is safe as none work on Linux [17:38] KDDA: we usually only do such a meeting once shortly after release to talk about the next one [17:38] just wondering what time it usually is [17:39] either part of vUDS, or around it [17:53] seems kwallet thinks my password is wrong [17:53] yet I just put it in for my wifi password [17:54] * ahoneybun throws kwallet out a window [17:55] * yofel gathers the pieces and throws them on his other broken kwallets [17:56] yofel are you a dev? [17:56] yes [17:56] * ahoneybun remembers in KDE4 when kwallet worked well [17:57] in kde4 it at least didn't *repeatedly* asked you to open the same damn wallet [17:57] what do you use kwallet for? [17:58] whatever asks for it, ie. kded, owncloud, chromium, ... [17:58] storing passwords [17:58] oh [17:58] right ^ [17:58] yofel: is it normal that kdepasswd to not be installed? [17:59] not sure [17:59] * yofel checks the manifest [18:00] ahoneybun: yes [18:00] now whether that's good I don't know [18:00] so we provide no GUI way to change the user password then [18:00] I would think that is not good [18:00] doesn't user-manager do that? [18:01] from the system settings [18:01] I never used it, mostly LastPass [18:01] yeah it does, that kaccount has a useless button is bad though :/ [18:02] I do remember someone talking about that a while ago though... [18:02] yea Im talking about "Password and User Account" [18:02] then there is User Manager that has a password option [18:03] ovidiu-florin: Riddell valorie https://github.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual [18:03] are there users of Wily? [18:05] * ahoneybun starts playing PA [18:06] Im on 15.10 [19:30] what is the default username and pass on a live cd/dvd? [19:31] got it [19:31] http://askubuntu.com/questions/103896/live-cd-asks-for-a-username-and-password [19:31] :D [19:31] thanks [19:31] np [19:32] Etriaph: I'm trying to find out why the right click does not work on Ubuntu [19:32] and Kubunt [19:32] On your mouse? [19:32] laptop [19:32] trackpad/touchpad [19:32] Ah, ya, I'm mostly desktop only. [19:32] so it would be synaptics I thiink [19:32] I think my laptop is running 12.04 or something [19:33] just need to know where the conf file is and stiff [19:33] *stuff [19:34] so [19:34] 'xinput list' says cannot connect to X server [19:34] And you're connected? [19:34] Your user session I mean? [19:36] well [19:36] with the right click not working I had to jump into a tty [19:37] try "export DISPLAY=:0", then xinput might work [19:38] that did it yofel thanks [19:39] I see the TouchPad on there [19:41] so reading from this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Configuration_on_the_fly : the device shows a left and right button [19:47] yofel: Etriaph http://askubuntu.com/questions/579645/right-click-on-synaptic-touchpad-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-10 : this worked in the live iso so I'm going to try it in the installed version now [19:47] Interesting. [19:49] ahoneybun: Did you have to manually configure it? [19:49] Etriaph: what might be causing this is this laptop has 2 right and 2 left button [19:49] Etriaph: as in? [19:49] wtf now the right click works fine [19:49] ahoneybun: Did you have to add anything to xorg.conf? [19:49] Or synaptics config file? [19:49] Etriaph: yea what the guide said [19:50] *nods* [19:50] now the right click is gone [19:50] works when you boot, then it goes away [19:51] kcm-touchpad was replaced with what? [19:52] no clue [19:52] Oh it's *still* in it [19:53] Vivid I mean [19:53] Arch has a package we don't [19:53] kcm-touchpad-frameworks [19:53] I would imagine kcm-touchpad is legacy for v4 apps [19:54] we have kde-config-touchpad which is part of plasma(5)-desktop [19:54] opps I mean left click [19:54] yofel: And is that just for the cursor pad, or does that include the buttons? [19:55] no idea, I never had to configure the *buttons* [19:55] I try to gather solutions for problems so I can help folks in #kubuntu from time to time. [19:55] well, I had on my work thinkpad, but that requires xorg.conf meddling to properly work [19:55] Ah. I'm a desktop person mostly. [19:55] I should try 15.04 on my laptop and see how it goes. [19:56] that T440 has all buttons emulated on one huge touchpad, which is a PITA [19:57] It's probably failure prone depending on the wiring in there :D [19:57] bbiab, more coffee required [20:45] Etriaph: it seems if I switch to a tty, then back to the deskop the left and right buttons work [20:54] ahoneybun: Maybe they are reinitialized when returning to the X.org display server. [20:55] ahoneybun: If that were true, either they hang while in memory or they get put to sleep. Are you actively typing/working with the laptop when they stop working? [21:10] I'm burning a disk with K3B and KSysGuard doesn't report any IO on the device. [21:11] Broken sensor for sr0? [21:16] not that I know of Etriaph [21:16] bbl [22:11] sgclark: do you plan to backport apps ?