GefilteFish | Can someone help me fix this "boot device not found 3f0" error? What I did was delete my EFI partition now I'm stuck with a bricked laptop with Xubuntu installed, but inaccessible. All the Linux distros I've tried on a LiveUSB won't boot. Super Grub2 Disk is the only exception but it's kind of useless. I can use it to get to Xubuntu's terminal though. | 00:00 |
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nomic | you van still | 00:01 |
nomic | get the files off it by booting it from the live cd, mounting the drive | 00:01 |
nomic | copying files off | 00:01 |
nomic | it's bricked - but you can still mount the drive from the live cd (booted) | 00:01 |
nomic | by mounting the partition , to be able to reference it as a drive | 00:02 |
nomic | you havce ruined the installatin - all you need, is to get the files off it | 00:02 |
nomic | otherwise, just re-install | 00:02 |
nomic | if you can get to the terminal, you can still see the volume - you can still access your files | 00:03 |
nomic | EFI is to do with the BIOS , not the partition | 00:03 |
nomic | re-install | 00:04 |
GefilteFish | Ok thanks but how would i know the exact path to the files on my liveusb? | 00:04 |
nomic | maybe reset your bios to factory settings, if you have screwed that - either by playing around with it | 00:04 |
nomic | liveusb? that is it's own environment - you need to mount your partition -t he drive | 00:04 |
nomic | http://askubuntu.com/questions/78691/recovering-user-files-with-a-live-cd | 00:05 |
nomic | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery | 00:05 |
GefilteFish | Im not really understanding. Are you saying to mount Xubuntu? | 00:06 |
nomic | you mount the drive, on your laptop | 00:06 |
nomic | using the instructions | 00:06 |
nomic | to "mount" is a command which enables you to make the files from another set of media, visible, from your current ubuntu copy | 00:07 |
nomic | it may even be visible on the desktop | 00:07 |
nomic | if you (#1) - boot the pc with the "live" cd / usb | 00:07 |
nomic | bbl | 00:08 |
GefilteFish | Alright im gonna give it a try | 00:09 |
nomic | there is "ubuntu forums" - for support - leave messages etc - also search for topic "getting data back" "mounting drive from live cd" | 00:09 |
nomic | cos people are zombies on irc - not really paying attention - you automatically (on a topic like that) get pointers on the forums (very busy place) http://ubuntuforums.org/ | 00:10 |
GefilteFish | Do you know how to fix failed to fetch error in terminal? | 00:53 |
GefilteFish | Don't worry I'm not trying to be a zombie. I'm actually searching the internet too | 00:54 |
nomic | ud have to show the error "failed to fetch" - and what you are trying to do | 01:02 |
nomic | failed to fetch doesn't say a lot | 01:03 |
nomic | related to what - fetching what | 01:03 |
GefilteFish | Im trying to install grub | 01:06 |
GefilteFish | Im doing 'apt-get install grub' | 01:07 |
MisterMom | GefilteFish, are you using sudo ? | 01:09 |
GefilteFish | Yes i am | 01:12 |
MisterMom | ok | 01:13 |
GefilteFish | Im doing these 'iwconfig wlan0' commands and it shows that im connected to my wifi... But | 01:13 |
GefilteFish | Nothing | 01:13 |
* nomic would blank it, start again - how have you wrecked the boot | 01:46 | |
nomic | these are not problems just of ubuntu - you would be able to wreck windows far more easily | 01:46 |
nomic | in actual fact - those sites were recommending the use of ubuntu (live), to recover windows | 01:46 |
nomic | because linux is a serious OS | 01:47 |
nomic | whereas windows is not | 01:47 |
GefilteFish | So do you have an answer to my failed to fetch question? | 01:48 |
GefilteFish | It's fine if you don't | 01:48 |
nomic | you offended now because I talked negatively about windows? | 01:48 |
nomic | i detect | 01:48 |
nomic | you did not ask a question | 01:48 |
nomic | bbl. | 01:48 |
GefilteFish | Be back later? | 01:49 |
nomic | yeah | 01:54 |
GefilteFish | Tbh windows is more user friendly | 01:56 |
sega | i just clicked the "arrange desktop icons" option in the context menu on the desktop and my icons dissapeared | 02:00 |
sega | I'm running 15.04 | 02:01 |
sega | Any idea as to why this happened and how I can get them back? | 02:01 |
krytarik | sega: LP bug 1434959. | 02:04 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1434959 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "XFCE desktop - system icons themselves arrange off the screen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1434959 | 02:04 |
sega | I've got another question that hopefully someone can answer. I installed xubuntu via USB like 30 mins ago. I chose the option to delete all existing HDD contents and run xubuntu as my primary OS. However, when I reboot my PC, "windows boot manager" is still listed as a boot option in BIOS. Why is this still listed as an option? | 02:05 |
sega | thanks for the answers <krytarik> and <ubottu> | 02:06 |
GefilteFish | I FIXED IT | 02:22 |
nomic | good | 02:22 |
holstein | i found a way to address my uefi hardware.. | 02:23 |
GefilteFish | Guys | 02:46 |
GefilteFish | How do you create an efi drive | 02:46 |
GefilteFish | Or better yet. What files go in the /boot/efi folder | 02:47 |
holstein | usually, the hardware manufacturer will have some specific requirements about what the hardware needs | 02:47 |
holstein | !uefi | 02:47 |
ubottu | UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI | 02:47 |
nomic | efi? | 02:47 |
nomic | isn't a drive | 02:47 |
nomic | efi is a bios security 'feature' | 02:47 |
holstein | mine is a partition.. | 02:48 |
GefilteFish | I meant partition | 02:49 |
holstein | i didnt actually personally choose what went there.. i like the installer do what it needed | 02:49 |
GefilteFish | Ok i made it in gparted and gave it a boot flag | 02:49 |
holstein | and, with ubuntu 15.o4, it just "magically" did it | 02:49 |
GefilteFish | Holstein im trying to manually do it. I know that | 02:50 |
holstein | but, if i were going to blow windows out off this machine, and i might, i would just set the bios to legacy, and have the older setup im used to | 02:50 |
holstein | GefilteFish: sure.. its just that, the manufacturer, AFAIK, can have specific things the machine is "expecting" | 02:50 |
holstein | GefilteFish: im not sure that you and i are *allowed* to know what that is.. but i could be wrong | 02:50 |
holstein | im not sure that getting "signed" efi partition data like that is accepted is casual | 02:51 |
holstein | that is accepted* | 02:51 |
GefilteFish | .... | 02:51 |
holstein | you can also use #ubuntu, and may find more users with that type of hardware there | 02:52 |
holstein | whatever works in ubuntu for your hardware and that kernel should "just magically work" with xubuntu | 02:52 |
GefilteFish | I finally got into my OS but if i turn off my pc I'll be back at the "boot device not found 3f0 screen | 02:52 |
holstein | yup, i had lots of that, as well | 02:53 |
holstein | i ended up in a bios mode that boots both windows and ubuntu | 02:53 |
GefilteFish | Ok different question then. Is there a terminal command that reinstalls missing xubuntu files? | 02:54 |
holstein | not "magically" | 02:54 |
GefilteFish | Or a way to reinstall xubuntu from terminal | 02:54 |
holstein | GefilteFish: there are many ways to install files | 02:54 |
holstein | xubuntu? or xfce? or what? | 02:54 |
GefilteFish | Wow. | 02:54 |
GefilteFish | So can you actually help me or not | 03:04 |
GefilteFish | If you dont know how just say that. | 03:04 |
holstein | GefilteFish: a volunteer may be able to help here, sure.. you can also try #ubuntu, as i said, since, your issue is not xubuntu/xfce specific | 03:06 |
GefilteFish | I am on Xubuntu... | 03:07 |
holstein | GefilteFish: yup.. ubuntu running xfce, with a efi question.. xubuntu *is* ubuntu, and im not trying to kick you out of here, im just stating that you literally can be the only person runing xubuntu on that specific hardware | 03:08 |
holstein | could be, you can find another user with that hardware in #ubuntu, and *anything* related, will work in xubuntu.. kernel level, grub, etc.. its all the same | 03:08 |
GefilteFish | All im trying to figure out is what files go inside /boot/efi/ because mine is empty and im trying to rebuild my partition manually. | 03:11 |
holstein | GefilteFish: sure, and on mine, its specific to dell | 03:12 |
holstein | GefilteFish: and, the installer "just did it" for me.. otherwise, i would have had to ask dell, or bypass it in the bios, which also worked | 03:12 |
holstein | those are signed, for security.. its not something that can be causally made | 03:13 |
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xubuntu11w | I was just reading an article on this website called the "easy linux tips project" and read this tip: "Never remove any application that's part of the default installation of Ubuntu" | 03:26 |
xubuntu11w | Is this true? I ask because I've removed most of the default software on xubuntu and replaced it with my preffered software | 03:27 |
holstein | you can alwasy do what you like | 03:27 |
holstein | but, i think if those are "beginner tips", then, since, all you do is free up a little hard drive space, and you can run into issues with things wanting to remove other things.. etc.. | 03:28 |
xubuntu11w | The author notes that "When you remove a default application, you run a risk of seriously damaging the system." | 03:28 |
Hund | xubuntu11w: It's okay. | 03:29 |
xubuntu11w | I don't understand how removing default could pose a threat | 03:29 |
xubuntu11w | *default software | 03:29 |
Hund | It doesn't. | 03:29 |
xubuntu11w | ok, that's what i had assumed | 03:29 |
holstein | xubuntu11w: as i said, it can offer to remove other things.. thats all.. a beginner could run into issues | 03:29 |
xubuntu11w | I see | 03:29 |
xubuntu11w | Thanks | 03:29 |
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voldieshorts | I cant stream any mp3 on ff, youtube seems to be working though | 05:45 |
voldieshorts | media cannot be decoded | 05:45 |
voldieshorts | seems like HTML5 cannot be parsed properly | 05:45 |
voldieshorts | *HTML5 audio | 05:45 |
xubuntu17wared | Hello, I'm trying to download TheBrain , but I'm told: the document was not utf-8 valid | 07:01 |
xubuntu35i | why does abiwordcome preinstalled instead of libreoffice? | 11:34 |
bazhang | !info abiword | 11:55 |
ubottu | abiword (source: abiword): efficient, featureful word processor with collaboration. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.1-1 (vivid), package size 1315 kB, installed size 4757 kB | 11:55 |
xubuntu529 | yooooooooooooooooooo | 15:09 |
xubuntu529 | sup | 15:09 |
xubuntu529 | the sky | 15:10 |
Walliski | Hi | 15:10 |
xubuntu529 | wa$$up | 15:10 |
xubuntu529 | bye | 15:10 |
Walliski | c ya | 15:13 |
Walliski | -_-' | 15:13 |
dreamon | want to use gnome-do shortkey Super+Space but it dont work .. think its already used.. but cannot find what it is. | 15:35 |
digitsm | hello | 17:40 |
digitsm | I have xubuntu 14.04.1 | 17:40 |
digitsm | Both internal microphone and external microphone of my laptop doesn't work | 17:40 |
digitsm | What should I do? | 17:41 |
digitsm | Here is my audio setting: http://oi57.tinypic.com/xatc0l.jpg | 17:41 |
Chocolateraineu | Good afternoon, I'm having some issues with graphic driver | 18:02 |
Chocolateraineu | Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV350 [Radeon 9550] | 18:02 |
Chocolateraineu | X.Org: 1.16.0 drivers: ati,vesa,radeon FAILED: fbdev Resolution: 1280x1024@0.0hz | 18:02 |
Chocolateraineu | GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits) GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2 | 18:02 |
Chocolateraineu | Can't change resolution/refresh rate, sometimes screen goes too yellow, quite weird. | 18:03 |
xubuntu70w | I want to remove the default app "mail reader," but if i do, the following items must also be removed: file manager for xfce, thunar extension for volummes managment, panel for xfce desktop environment, xfce terminal emulator, xfce desktop background, icons, and root, and verve (command line) plugin for xfce | 18:24 |
bazhang | are you tight on hdd space | 18:25 |
xubuntu70w | Some of those seem like necessary system plugins / apps, which is keeping me from clicking delete | 18:25 |
xubuntu70w | no i'm not | 18:25 |
bazhang | what will be used in lieu of that | 18:25 |
Unit193 | How about not using whatever UI that is and just remove thunderbird then? | 18:25 |
xubuntu70w | Yeah I was planning on just using thunderbird, so I wanted to remove mail reader because it won't be used | 18:26 |
* Unit193 scratches head. | 18:26 | |
xubuntu70w | Am I not making sense | 18:26 |
Unit193 | What is 'mail reader'? | 18:27 |
xubuntu70w | Actually | 18:27 |
xubuntu70w | It's simply a shortcut to the default mail application | 18:27 |
xubuntu70w | my bad | 18:27 |
Unit193 | So, you were trying to remove exo. | 18:28 |
xubuntu70w | I guess it serves the same function as the "internet" shortcut seen on context meenuus | 18:28 |
xubuntu70w | *menus | 18:28 |
xubuntu70w | If you right click on thee desktop aand go to applications, you should see "internet" and "mail reader" shortcuts at the top of the menu | 18:29 |
xubuntu70w | I don't need to use either of them, so I wanted to remove them from the software center. But it looks like you have to remove other system components/ apps as well. | 18:30 |
xubuntu70w | I don't know whether or not those apps I listed above are safe to remove | 18:30 |
elfy | what you are describing is not any different than the shortcuts elsewhere | 18:30 |
Unit193 | How about you use a menu editor and remove them? | 18:31 |
elfy | removing firefox and thunderbird won'tafaik remove those menu entries | 18:31 |
Unit193 | Mope. | 18:31 |
xubuntu70w | Let me try the menu editor | 18:31 |
xubuntu70w | menu editor works | 18:33 |
xubuntu70w | thanks, I used the "hide" option | 18:33 |
bazhang | !yay | 18:33 |
ubottu | Glad you made it! :-) | 18:33 |
xubuntu70w | Is there an easy way to configure the applications menu so that it has a different layout? | 18:34 |
xubuntu70w | For example, can I eliminate the shortcuts on the left side and simply have the menu show all of the applications in one consolidated list? | 18:35 |
xangua | you mean the classic menu¿ | 18:36 |
xubuntu70w | yes | 18:36 |
xubuntu70w | Well, I didn't know that was an option, but I would like to try it | 18:37 |
xubuntu70w | Figured it out | 18:42 |
win95 | Anyone know if you can modify or change the play/pause controls within the volume tab on panel? | 21:38 |
win95 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/bbblw358ma5efnb/Screenshot_2015-05-17_17-20-24.png?dl=0 | 21:39 |
win95 | That link shows what I'm talking about (in the top right corner) | 21:39 |
knome | win95, not without changing the code | 21:41 |
win95 | thanks knome | 21:41 |
win95 | Where can I provide suggestions for future updates and changes? | 21:41 |
knome | in launchpad, the ubuntu bug tracker | 21:42 |
win95 | alright, thanks again | 21:44 |
win95 | I'm curious, how does software deletion differ from windows operating systems? Does the xubuntu file system organize software into program files like windows? For example, does libreoffice writer have a specific folder location in the file system which contains all of the software components? | 22:14 |
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